comment by SimpleFootball (U19256)
posted 1 minute ago
Did I say he used him all the time? Don't believe I did. I'm a massive Kagawa fan and think he should be playing every game at No.10, he got decent/good playing time under Fergie but never in his best position really, always at LM and I said that the way Moyes has shut Kagawa out is a travesty so I'm confused by what you say if you are talking to me that is.
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I'm already done with you
Because you clearly haven't got the first clue what fergie did with Valencia, or kagawa
You make it sound like moyes selections are radically different to fergies from last season
If you watched us last season, you would know that they are not
Couldn't agree more he hasn't been used right or enough by either manager, should be playing in the majority of games just seems clear Moyes doesn't rate Kags to me. 1 brilliant performance at Leverkusen at No.10, played in next game against Spurs away where he was moved to LM to accomodate Welbeck after 30 mins then dropped? Not right, barely been used to be honest and he played good against Swansea in the league but not played for god knows how long after. Last game before Tuesday was Sunderland in the cup, utter joke and to not bring him on against Fulham was embarrassing.
comment by UnitedRedMacca (U2024)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SimpleFootball (U19256)
posted 1 minute ago
Did I say he used him all the time? Don't believe I did. I'm a massive Kagawa fan and think he should be playing every game at No.10, he got decent/good playing time under Fergie but never in his best position really, always at LM and I said that the way Moyes has shut Kagawa out is a travesty so I'm confused by what you say if you are talking to me that is.
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I'm already done with you
Because you clearly haven't got the first clue what fergie did with Valencia, or kagawa
You make it sound like moyes selections are radically different to fergies from last season
If you watched us last season, you would know that they are not
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Like I have said, not used enough by either manager but he has played class in some games this season then dropped , baffling. Both submitted to Rooney for a while but Fergie was moving away from that IMO but retired unfortunately, never will know if Kagawa would have been given more this season if Fergie was in charge. He played 20 out of 38 in league last season, not bad for a player injured for 2 months I think?
The argument that Alex ferguson did not use kagagwa right is a debate for another day, as I personally believe he would've sold Rooney and played Kagawa in his position had he stayed. The point of the matter is Alex Ferguson not using kagawa is a luxury he had as he utilised every other man on the pitch effectively and accordingly. David Moyes on the other hand can't Utilise even world class like RVP. What I saw from that clip is the direction this club needs to go, it is the direction football is going. Kags picks the ball and plays nice passes all the way to Evra who was in the opposition half, not this Rooney pinging balls from 60 yards acting like he is Paul Scholes.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 17 seconds ago
The argument that Alex ferguson did not use kagagwa right is a debate for another day, as I personally believe he would've sold Rooney and played Kagawa in his position had he stayed. The point of the matter is Alex Ferguson not using kagawa is a luxury he had as he utilised every other man on the pitch effectively and accordingly. David Moyes on the other hand can't Utilise even world class like RVP. What I saw from that clip is the direction this club needs to go, it is the direction football is going. Kags picks the ball and plays nice passes all the way to Evra who was in the opposition half, not this Rooney pinging balls from 60 yards acting like he is Paul Scholes.
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That^
Scholay
Your choice
Night
haters gonna hate. I said similar when we signed veron, said same with ando and nani and same wit kagawa and IMO same with mata
these are intelligent players who look and see beofre moving the ball then KEEP moving to create space and play quick 1 2's in tight spaces.
Sorry to those who will inevitably be offended but the likes of rooney need time and space and when they dont get it they lose the ball or revert to type ie slng ball out wide
This video shows what I have been going on about perfectly
valencia = run and cross
nani = look up see no one available = try something = doesnt work = stick from fans ''wrong decison/no footballing brain
same nani for portugal makes right decision most times
rooney staying isnt the greatest news people think it is. It means drudgery in our one style of play
comment by UnitedRedMacca (U2024)
posted 7 hours, 35 minutes ago
Awwwww so scholay saw the youtube video from earlier
Mate, you are an absolute bell e n d and taken in with the smallest little piece of bollox
If you actually took the time to study that video, you would see that a fair few oases we made were far better than the ones the video suggested
You have become one of the most gullible idiots on here
I don't think you realise it either
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Once again not one person is gonna agree with you, give up man.
It was a bunch of hoofball.
And rooney knocking aimless rubbish long balls, not exactly earning his 300k there is he.
comment by UnitedRedMacca (U2024)
posted 7 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by UnitedRedMacca (U2024)
posted 1 minute ago
Awwwww so scholay saw the youtube video from earlier
Mate, you are an absolute bell e n d and taken in with the smallest little piece of bollox
If you actually took the time to study that video, you would see that a fair few oases we made were far better than the ones the video suggested
You have become one of the most gullible idiots on here
I don't think you realise it either
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This is football forum mate, don't give a fark what people think about me. Go wash your face please. Think you need to wake up if you think some of the passes in that video were the right one. Advocating for 19th century football as Mourinho puts it because it is your man Rooney doing them.
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The guy who brought the video to our website even agreed
Your just bring your usual idiotic self
Forget Tuesday
Focus on palace away. That's moyes future
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Moyes has no future at this football club
Stretty
You are becoming to obsessed with me
Just leave it and I'll leave you alone
Nah, you keep coming out with rubbish and ill keep correcting you.
If either of us are obsessed its you pal, i at least stick to topic.
its not my fault you dont know one thing about football and constantly chat complete garbage.
I'm sure UnitedRedMacca is a WUM, seems to have some strange opinions that the majority agree are worse for us as a team, seems to get into arguments with many on here also.
comment by SimpleFootball (U19256)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm sure UnitedRedMacca is a WUM, seems to have some strange opinions that the majority agree are worse for us as a team, seems to get into arguments with many on here also.
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Hes not a wum but he certainly does state things he doesnt beleive toi get peoples backs up.
Also any opinion that differs from his, is wum material, tbh he just doesnt know a great deal about football and doesnt have a lot of class either tbh.
comment by Stretty - LongLiveA$ap - Moyes Out (U3123)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by SimpleFootball (U19256)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm sure UnitedRedMacca is a WUM, seems to have some strange opinions that the majority agree are worse for us as a team, seems to get into arguments with many on here also.
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Hes not a wum but he certainly does state things he doesnt beleive toi get peoples backs up.
Also any opinion that differs from his, is wum material, tbh he just doesnt know a great deal about football and doesnt have a lot of class either tbh.
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Yeah doesn't seem to comprehend somebody thinking different to him to better United, agree with you fully^
comment by SimpleFootball (U19256)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Stretty - LongLiveA$ap - Moyes Out (U3123)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by SimpleFootball (U19256)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm sure UnitedRedMacca is a WUM, seems to have some strange opinions that the majority agree are worse for us as a team, seems to get into arguments with many on here also.
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Hes not a wum but he certainly does state things he doesnt beleive toi get peoples backs up.
Also any opinion that differs from his, is wum material, tbh he just doesnt know a great deal about football and doesnt have a lot of class either tbh.
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Yeah doesn't seem to comprehend somebody thinking different to him to better United, agree with you fully^
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More of a robb without the class
Now, the enigma of Kagawa.
I am not his biggest fan, but I do appreciate the guy has talent.
IMO he still has not dione enough to earn this mindless adoration form you lot.
That said, I would rather see him getting picked instead of the likes of Valencia, Young and Cleverley.
At least with Kagawa we know he has the ability to make something happen.
And you Rooney haters are not going to like this, but for Kagawa to flourish Rooney needs to be the main striker, not RVP, Welbeck or the offside boy.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Now, the enigma of Kagawa.
I am not his biggest fan, but I do appreciate the guy has talent.
IMO he still has not dione enough to earn this mindless adoration form you lot.
That said, I would rather see him getting picked instead of the likes of Valencia, Young and Cleverley.
At least with Kagawa we know he has the ability to make something happen.
And you Rooney haters are not going to like this, but for Kagawa to flourish Rooney needs to be the main striker, not RVP, Welbeck or the offside boy.
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Stop it VC or you'll be labelled a wum
And you Rooney haters are not going to like this, but for Kagawa to flourish Rooney needs to be the main striker, not RVP, Welbeck or the offside boy.
- Can't see that unless RVP gets injured. But you have a point about them two though, they've been good when rooney has been up top and kagawa playing in behind
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
Now, the enigma of Kagawa.
I am not his biggest fan, but I do appreciate the guy has talent.
IMO he still has not dione enough to earn this mindless adoration form you lot.
That said, I would rather see him getting picked instead of the likes of Valencia, Young and Cleverley.
At least with Kagawa we know he has the ability to make something happen.
And you Rooney haters are not going to like this, but for Kagawa to flourish Rooney needs to be the main striker, not RVP, Welbeck or the offside boy.
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1. No one hates rooney, we just dont lick his crack like you do and exagerate his ability because he runs around.
2. correct, but everyone has said the same thing already. Wouldnt be horrendous with rvp either though. Either ahead of kags would be better than whats currently occuring.
But you have a point about them two though, they've been good when rooney has been up top and kagawa playing in behind
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Yes they have. It is patently obvious they have an understanding.
Quite why SAF or Moyes haven't capitalized on it beggars belief.
1. No one hates rooney
................
Yet again, WTF?
we just dont lick his crack like you do and exagerate his ability because he runs around.
............
I don't lick his crack.
I just happen to appreciate what he has done for United over the last ten years and appreciate what he brings to the team.
Something I would expect from any United fan with half a footballing brain.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 8 seconds ago
we just dont lick his crack like you do and exagerate his ability because he runs around.
............
I don't lick his crack.
I just happen to appreciate what he has done for United over the last ten years and appreciate what he brings to the team.
Something I would expect from any United fan with half a footballing brain.
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Yeah hes been a good player.
But not one of the worlds best.
If he was so good you wouldnt need to exagerate his ability in the way you do.
be honest you love him because he runs around, a lot.
I think rooney would be so much better if he stopped runnning all over the shop, but he just doesnt have that discipline.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
we just dont lick his crack like you do and exagerate his ability because he runs around.
............
I don't lick his crack.
I just happen to appreciate what he has done for United over the last ten years and appreciate what he brings to the team.
Something I would expect from any United fan with half a footballing brain.
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Dont think youll get that from stretty VC
Oh and yes you do.
Come on VC when was the last time rooney scored a world class goal. Or did a unique peice fo skill that turned a game with us?
Must have a lot of examples of him doing it lately, and i must be blind.
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posted on 28/2/14
comment by SimpleFootball (U19256)
posted 1 minute ago
Did I say he used him all the time? Don't believe I did. I'm a massive Kagawa fan and think he should be playing every game at No.10, he got decent/good playing time under Fergie but never in his best position really, always at LM and I said that the way Moyes has shut Kagawa out is a travesty so I'm confused by what you say if you are talking to me that is.
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I'm already done with you
Because you clearly haven't got the first clue what fergie did with Valencia, or kagawa
You make it sound like moyes selections are radically different to fergies from last season
If you watched us last season, you would know that they are not
posted on 28/2/14
Couldn't agree more he hasn't been used right or enough by either manager, should be playing in the majority of games just seems clear Moyes doesn't rate Kags to me. 1 brilliant performance at Leverkusen at No.10, played in next game against Spurs away where he was moved to LM to accomodate Welbeck after 30 mins then dropped? Not right, barely been used to be honest and he played good against Swansea in the league but not played for god knows how long after. Last game before Tuesday was Sunderland in the cup, utter joke and to not bring him on against Fulham was embarrassing.
posted on 28/2/14
comment by UnitedRedMacca (U2024)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SimpleFootball (U19256)
posted 1 minute ago
Did I say he used him all the time? Don't believe I did. I'm a massive Kagawa fan and think he should be playing every game at No.10, he got decent/good playing time under Fergie but never in his best position really, always at LM and I said that the way Moyes has shut Kagawa out is a travesty so I'm confused by what you say if you are talking to me that is.
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I'm already done with you
Because you clearly haven't got the first clue what fergie did with Valencia, or kagawa
You make it sound like moyes selections are radically different to fergies from last season
If you watched us last season, you would know that they are not
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Like I have said, not used enough by either manager but he has played class in some games this season then dropped , baffling. Both submitted to Rooney for a while but Fergie was moving away from that IMO but retired unfortunately, never will know if Kagawa would have been given more this season if Fergie was in charge. He played 20 out of 38 in league last season, not bad for a player injured for 2 months I think?
posted on 28/2/14
The argument that Alex ferguson did not use kagagwa right is a debate for another day, as I personally believe he would've sold Rooney and played Kagawa in his position had he stayed. The point of the matter is Alex Ferguson not using kagawa is a luxury he had as he utilised every other man on the pitch effectively and accordingly. David Moyes on the other hand can't Utilise even world class like RVP. What I saw from that clip is the direction this club needs to go, it is the direction football is going. Kags picks the ball and plays nice passes all the way to Evra who was in the opposition half, not this Rooney pinging balls from 60 yards acting like he is Paul Scholes.
posted on 28/2/14
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 17 seconds ago
The argument that Alex ferguson did not use kagagwa right is a debate for another day, as I personally believe he would've sold Rooney and played Kagawa in his position had he stayed. The point of the matter is Alex Ferguson not using kagawa is a luxury he had as he utilised every other man on the pitch effectively and accordingly. David Moyes on the other hand can't Utilise even world class like RVP. What I saw from that clip is the direction this club needs to go, it is the direction football is going. Kags picks the ball and plays nice passes all the way to Evra who was in the opposition half, not this Rooney pinging balls from 60 yards acting like he is Paul Scholes.
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That^
posted on 28/2/14
Scholay
Your choice
Night
posted on 28/2/14
haters gonna hate. I said similar when we signed veron, said same with ando and nani and same wit kagawa and IMO same with mata
these are intelligent players who look and see beofre moving the ball then KEEP moving to create space and play quick 1 2's in tight spaces.
Sorry to those who will inevitably be offended but the likes of rooney need time and space and when they dont get it they lose the ball or revert to type ie slng ball out wide
This video shows what I have been going on about perfectly
valencia = run and cross
nani = look up see no one available = try something = doesnt work = stick from fans ''wrong decison/no footballing brain
same nani for portugal makes right decision most times
rooney staying isnt the greatest news people think it is. It means drudgery in our one style of play
posted on 28/2/14
comment by UnitedRedMacca (U2024)
posted 7 hours, 35 minutes ago
Awwwww so scholay saw the youtube video from earlier
Mate, you are an absolute bell e n d and taken in with the smallest little piece of bollox
If you actually took the time to study that video, you would see that a fair few oases we made were far better than the ones the video suggested
You have become one of the most gullible idiots on here
I don't think you realise it either
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Once again not one person is gonna agree with you, give up man.
It was a bunch of hoofball.
And rooney knocking aimless rubbish long balls, not exactly earning his 300k there is he.
posted on 28/2/14
comment by UnitedRedMacca (U2024)
posted 7 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by UnitedRedMacca (U2024)
posted 1 minute ago
Awwwww so scholay saw the youtube video from earlier
Mate, you are an absolute bell e n d and taken in with the smallest little piece of bollox
If you actually took the time to study that video, you would see that a fair few oases we made were far better than the ones the video suggested
You have become one of the most gullible idiots on here
I don't think you realise it either
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This is football forum mate, don't give a fark what people think about me. Go wash your face please. Think you need to wake up if you think some of the passes in that video were the right one. Advocating for 19th century football as Mourinho puts it because it is your man Rooney doing them.
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The guy who brought the video to our website even agreed
Your just bring your usual idiotic self
Forget Tuesday
Focus on palace away. That's moyes future
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Moyes has no future at this football club
posted on 28/2/14
Stretty
You are becoming to obsessed with me
Just leave it and I'll leave you alone
posted on 28/2/14
Nah, you keep coming out with rubbish and ill keep correcting you.
If either of us are obsessed its you pal, i at least stick to topic.
its not my fault you dont know one thing about football and constantly chat complete garbage.
posted on 28/2/14
I'm sure UnitedRedMacca is a WUM, seems to have some strange opinions that the majority agree are worse for us as a team, seems to get into arguments with many on here also.
posted on 28/2/14
comment by SimpleFootball (U19256)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm sure UnitedRedMacca is a WUM, seems to have some strange opinions that the majority agree are worse for us as a team, seems to get into arguments with many on here also.
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Hes not a wum but he certainly does state things he doesnt beleive toi get peoples backs up.
Also any opinion that differs from his, is wum material, tbh he just doesnt know a great deal about football and doesnt have a lot of class either tbh.
posted on 28/2/14
comment by Stretty - LongLiveA$ap - Moyes Out (U3123)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by SimpleFootball (U19256)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm sure UnitedRedMacca is a WUM, seems to have some strange opinions that the majority agree are worse for us as a team, seems to get into arguments with many on here also.
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Hes not a wum but he certainly does state things he doesnt beleive toi get peoples backs up.
Also any opinion that differs from his, is wum material, tbh he just doesnt know a great deal about football and doesnt have a lot of class either tbh.
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Yeah doesn't seem to comprehend somebody thinking different to him to better United, agree with you fully^
posted on 28/2/14
comment by SimpleFootball (U19256)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Stretty - LongLiveA$ap - Moyes Out (U3123)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by SimpleFootball (U19256)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm sure UnitedRedMacca is a WUM, seems to have some strange opinions that the majority agree are worse for us as a team, seems to get into arguments with many on here also.
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Hes not a wum but he certainly does state things he doesnt beleive toi get peoples backs up.
Also any opinion that differs from his, is wum material, tbh he just doesnt know a great deal about football and doesnt have a lot of class either tbh.
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Yeah doesn't seem to comprehend somebody thinking different to him to better United, agree with you fully^
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More of a robb without the class
posted on 28/2/14
Now, the enigma of Kagawa.
I am not his biggest fan, but I do appreciate the guy has talent.
IMO he still has not dione enough to earn this mindless adoration form you lot.
That said, I would rather see him getting picked instead of the likes of Valencia, Young and Cleverley.
At least with Kagawa we know he has the ability to make something happen.
And you Rooney haters are not going to like this, but for Kagawa to flourish Rooney needs to be the main striker, not RVP, Welbeck or the offside boy.
posted on 28/2/14
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Now, the enigma of Kagawa.
I am not his biggest fan, but I do appreciate the guy has talent.
IMO he still has not dione enough to earn this mindless adoration form you lot.
That said, I would rather see him getting picked instead of the likes of Valencia, Young and Cleverley.
At least with Kagawa we know he has the ability to make something happen.
And you Rooney haters are not going to like this, but for Kagawa to flourish Rooney needs to be the main striker, not RVP, Welbeck or the offside boy.
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Stop it VC or you'll be labelled a wum
posted on 28/2/14
And you Rooney haters are not going to like this, but for Kagawa to flourish Rooney needs to be the main striker, not RVP, Welbeck or the offside boy.
- Can't see that unless RVP gets injured. But you have a point about them two though, they've been good when rooney has been up top and kagawa playing in behind
posted on 28/2/14
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
Now, the enigma of Kagawa.
I am not his biggest fan, but I do appreciate the guy has talent.
IMO he still has not dione enough to earn this mindless adoration form you lot.
That said, I would rather see him getting picked instead of the likes of Valencia, Young and Cleverley.
At least with Kagawa we know he has the ability to make something happen.
And you Rooney haters are not going to like this, but for Kagawa to flourish Rooney needs to be the main striker, not RVP, Welbeck or the offside boy.
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1. No one hates rooney, we just dont lick his crack like you do and exagerate his ability because he runs around.
2. correct, but everyone has said the same thing already. Wouldnt be horrendous with rvp either though. Either ahead of kags would be better than whats currently occuring.
posted on 28/2/14
But you have a point about them two though, they've been good when rooney has been up top and kagawa playing in behind
.............
Yes they have. It is patently obvious they have an understanding.
Quite why SAF or Moyes haven't capitalized on it beggars belief.
posted on 28/2/14
1. No one hates rooney
................
Yet again, WTF?
posted on 28/2/14
we just dont lick his crack like you do and exagerate his ability because he runs around.
............
I don't lick his crack.
I just happen to appreciate what he has done for United over the last ten years and appreciate what he brings to the team.
Something I would expect from any United fan with half a footballing brain.
posted on 28/2/14
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 8 seconds ago
we just dont lick his crack like you do and exagerate his ability because he runs around.
............
I don't lick his crack.
I just happen to appreciate what he has done for United over the last ten years and appreciate what he brings to the team.
Something I would expect from any United fan with half a footballing brain.
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Yeah hes been a good player.
But not one of the worlds best.
If he was so good you wouldnt need to exagerate his ability in the way you do.
be honest you love him because he runs around, a lot.
I think rooney would be so much better if he stopped runnning all over the shop, but he just doesnt have that discipline.
posted on 28/2/14
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
we just dont lick his crack like you do and exagerate his ability because he runs around.
............
I don't lick his crack.
I just happen to appreciate what he has done for United over the last ten years and appreciate what he brings to the team.
Something I would expect from any United fan with half a footballing brain.
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Dont think youll get that from stretty VC
posted on 28/2/14
Oh and yes you do.
Come on VC when was the last time rooney scored a world class goal. Or did a unique peice fo skill that turned a game with us?
Must have a lot of examples of him doing it lately, and i must be blind.
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