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posted on 28/2/14

If he was so good you wouldnt need to exagerate his ability in the way you do.

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Where have I exagerated his ability?

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be honest you love him because he runs around, a lot.

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You obviously haven't read any of my comments on players who just run around a lot.

If you think that is all Rooney does, than you are a far bigger cretin than most people on here take you for.

posted on 28/2/14

Come on VC when was the last time rooney scored a world class goal.

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Saturday.

It was only six days ago, and you have already wiped it from your memory.

posted on 28/2/14

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
Come on VC when was the last time rooney scored a world class goal.

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Saturday.

It was only six days ago, and you have already wiped it from your memory.

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Doesnt fit with his agenda.

RVP for me will be gone and we will see rooney up top with mata/kagawa behind.

posted on 28/2/14

you think that was world class?

Mate you've got low standards, not even macca tried to claim the volley from 12 yards out was world class. It was good but that's it

Try again.

posted on 28/2/14

I think most appreciate what Rooney has done and what he brings to the team in terms of quality and hard work, I also agree it's harsh to say he just runs around but as a No.10 there are better choices to generate creativity and chances, just look at the stats about Rooney's and RVP's partnership in terms of passing to each other etc, Kagawa behind Rooney at Leverkusen was lethal and when he came on behind RVP against Sociedad away RVP actually had some service. Kagawa behind Rooney for me though is the way forward.

posted on 28/2/14

For the wages Rooney is on, he doesn't win us enough games or produce top quality moments like Suarez does despite him playing for Liverpool. We rarely see a piece of skill or a mazy run past people to score which is what £300k a week constitutes to me, I feel Kagawa could do what Rooney does better at No.10 apart from the goalscroing aspect.

Also, difference is Rooney can have 3 bad games then 1 good one and stay in the team, Kagawa would get 1 bad game and dropped due to Rooney's status at the club.

posted on 28/2/14

SimpleFootball (U19256)

just look at the stats about Rooney's and RVP's partnership in terms of passing to each other etc, Kagawa behind Rooney at Leverkusen was lethal and when he came on behind RVP against Sociedad away RVP actually had some service. Kagawa behind Rooney for me though is the way forward.
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I know kags is good player and isnt played enough but the examples youve given are just in europe. Rooney has proved time and time again he will perform in all comps. Kags sadly is just not suited to the english game. I hope he does leave and moves to a cclub/country suited to his style.

posted on 28/2/14

For the wages Rooney is on, he doesn't win us enough games or produce top quality moments like Suarez does despite him playing for Liverpool. We rarely see a piece of skill or a mazy run past people to score which is what £300k a week constitutes to me,
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Thank you, this is what ive been saying. rooneys a 100k a week plaayer.

posted on 28/2/14

comment by Stretty - LongLiveA$ap - Moyes Out (U3123)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by SimpleFootball (U19256)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm sure UnitedRedMacca is a WUM, seems to have some strange opinions that the majority agree are worse for us as a team, seems to get into arguments with many on here also.
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Hes not a wum but he certainly does state things he doesnt beleive toi get peoples backs up.

Also any opinion that differs from his, is wum material, tbh he just doesnt know a great deal about football and doesnt have a lot of class either tbh.
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Getting owned on one thread so he comes looking for backup

It's like a kiddies party on here these days

Can't you lot come up with anything other anti moyes or anti rooney stuff?

Stretty

Go do a thread based around the fact you think that you cant play football if you can;t play and then add in that Shearer Beckham Robbo Keano and Ian Rush were good goal scorers but not great players

Then we'll see who gets laughed at

Not brave enough?

Thought not

You stay here and play with you anti rooney friends instead

posted on 28/2/14

When was the last league game Kagawa was given a real chance in? Please tell me his last league appearance in the No.10 role? Swansea? No, we moan about Mata being shifted out wide but it has happened to Kagawa since day one yet he is criticised. It's like asking Rooney to be as effective at LM, not going to happen.

Yeah if he can't make it in this country think most United fans will realise he had class but just didn't work for him here.

posted on 28/2/14

Don't think Stretty is anti-Rooney or doesn't rate him from what I've read, all he is saying is he doesn't produce enough top quality moments or pieces of brilliance to warrant the wage he gets to which I couldn't agree more with.

posted on 28/2/14

comment by UnitedRedMacca (U2024)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stretty - LongLiveA$ap - Moyes Out (U3123)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by SimpleFootball (U19256)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm sure UnitedRedMacca is a WUM, seems to have some strange opinions that the majority agree are worse for us as a team, seems to get into arguments with many on here also.
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Hes not a wum but he certainly does state things he doesnt beleive toi get peoples backs up.

Also any opinion that differs from his, is wum material, tbh he just doesnt know a great deal about football and doesnt have a lot of class either tbh.
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Getting owned on one thread so he comes looking for backup

It's like a kiddies party on here these days

Can't you lot come up with anything other anti moyes or anti rooney stuff?

Stretty

Go do a thread based around the fact you think that you cant play football if you can;t play and then add in that Shearer Beckham Robbo Keano and Ian Rush were good goal scorers but not great players

Then we'll see who gets laughed at

Not brave enough?

Thought not

You stay here and play with you anti rooney friends instead

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Macca

Lets see what his cajones are made of. My guess is nothing

posted on 28/2/14

comment by SimpleFootball (U19256)
posted 1 second ago
Don't think Stretty is anti-Rooney or doesn't rate him from what I've read, all he is saying is he doesn't produce enough top quality moments or pieces of brilliance to warrant the wage he gets to which I couldn't agree more with.

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If it wasnt for rooney this season, we would be in an even worce position. People just dont appreaciate his all round game. You can be world class without just the goals!

posted on 28/2/14

comment by UnitedRedMacca (U2024)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Stretty - LongLiveA$ap - Moyes Out (U3123)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by SimpleFootball (U19256)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm sure UnitedRedMacca is a WUM, seems to have some strange opinions that the majority agree are worse for us as a team, seems to get into arguments with many on here also.
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Hes not a wum but he certainly does state things he doesnt beleive toi get peoples backs up.

Also any opinion that differs from his, is wum material, tbh he just doesnt know a great deal about football and doesnt have a lot of class either tbh.
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Getting owned on one thread so he comes looking for backup
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son, you couldnt own anyone at footballing knowledge, ever. i posted that comment over an hour and ahhalf ago.

It's like a kiddies party on here these days
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yeah it is because people like you just constantly take offence to every little thing, didnt you create an article about another poster reecently and get completely destroyed on it?

Can't you lot come up with anything other anti moyes or anti rooney stuff?

Stretty

Go do a thread based around the fact you think that you cant play football if you can;t play and then add in that Shearer Beckham Robbo Keano and Ian Rush were good goal scorers but not great players
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Half of those wernt great goalscorers, what are you on about you moron?

Then we'll see who gets laughed at

Not brave enough?

Thought not

You stay here and play with you anti rooney friends instead
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Anti rooney? Are you that much of an idiot you cant tell differenece between critisism and a dislike of a player?

posted on 28/2/14

I personally have never said he isn't a world class player, England's best by quite a way IMO but personally didn't like the way he dragged his heels over new deal or that he doesn't produce moments of brilliance when on £300k a week often enough to deserve that wage, still doesn't mean he isn't world class to what he brings overall to the team and in terms of his quality.

posted on 28/2/14

comment by Clever - son son son - 'I got 99 problems... (U18599)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by SimpleFootball (U19256)
posted 1 second ago
Don't think Stretty is anti-Rooney or doesn't rate him from what I've read, all he is saying is he doesn't produce enough top quality moments or pieces of brilliance to warrant the wage he gets to which I couldn't agree more with.

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If it wasnt for rooney this season, we would be in an even worce position. People just dont appreaciate his all round game. You can be world class without just the goals!
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He cant score world class goals, he cant change games, he cant dribble and make things happen.

what parts of his game are world class, educate me'?

posted on 28/2/14

comment by SimpleFootball (U19256)
posted 6 minutes ago
For the wages Rooney is on, he doesn't win us enough games or produce top quality moments like Suarez does despite him playing for Liverpool. We rarely see a piece of skill or a mazy run past people to score which is what £300k a week constitutes to me, I feel Kagawa could do what Rooney does better at No.10 apart from the goalscroing aspect.

Also, difference is Rooney can have 3 bad games then 1 good one and stay in the team, Kagawa would get 1 bad game and dropped due to Rooney's status at the club.
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Season before last Rooney scored 34 goals playing in the number 10 position

He is now 4th on United's all time goal scoring list with 209 goals for United. And scoring goals isn;t all he does for the team either like most forwards that score that many. Rooney has been a selfless team player too for as long as I can remember. Always woking his socks off fot his teammates

What more do you want? A dribble like Stretty wants?

My old man is a fan of old school players. He never stops talking about Edwards and Best etc

he phoned me on Tuesday night not believeing what he was watching and said 'What the hell is going on, only Rooney looks interested and he's trying to do everybody else's job'

Rooney didn't play well. But he was certainly up for the game, and he can't do it all on his own.

Duncan Edwards once said something along the lines of

'Even if you are having a nightmare, never cease looking for the ball'

That's Wayne Rooney

posted on 28/2/14

comment by SimpleFootball (U19256) posted 6 minutes ago
Don't think Stretty is anti-Rooney or doesn't rate him from what I've read
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Known him long have you?

posted on 28/2/14

comment by UnitedRedMacca (U2024)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by SimpleFootball (U19256)
posted 6 minutes ago
For the wages Rooney is on, he doesn't win us enough games or produce top quality moments like Suarez does despite him playing for Liverpool. We rarely see a piece of skill or a mazy run past people to score which is what £300k a week constitutes to me, I feel Kagawa could do what Rooney does better at No.10 apart from the goalscroing aspect.

Also, difference is Rooney can have 3 bad games then 1 good one and stay in the team, Kagawa would get 1 bad game and dropped due to Rooney's status at the club.
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Season before last Rooney scored 34 goals playing in the number 10 position

He is now 4th on United's all time goal scoring list with 209 goals for United. And scoring goals isn;t all he does for the team either like most forwards that score that many. Rooney has been a selfless team player too for as long as I can remember. Always woking his socks off fot his teammates

What more do you want? A dribble like Stretty wants?

My old man is a fan of old school players. He never stops talking about Edwards and Best etc

he phoned me on Tuesday night not believeing what he was watching and said 'What the hell is going on, only Rooney looks interested and he's trying to do everybody else's job'

Rooney didn't play well. But he was certainly up for the game, and he can't do it all on his own.

Duncan Edwards once said something along the lines of

'Even if you are having a nightmare, never cease looking for the ball'

That's Wayne Rooney


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well that settles it, those qualities right there definatley mean he is world class

posted on 28/2/14

Go do a thread based around the fact you think that you cant play football if you can;t play
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Can't play football if you can't dribble that was meant to say

posted on 28/2/14

Half of those wernt great goalscorers, what are you on about you moron?

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i never said they were great goal scorers

They wernt dribblers

Now, go do what I ask

I want to see what people will say when you claim Ian Rush David Beckam Alan Shearer Bryan Robson Malcom Macdonald and Graham Souness were all overrated because they didn't dribble

Or are you denying that now?

posted on 28/2/14

comment by SimpleFootball (U19256) posted 7 minutes ago
I personally have never said he isn't a world class player, England's best by quite a way IMO but personally didn't like the way he dragged his heels over new deal
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Simple

Don't believe everything you read in the press about Wazza. It's designed to wind us up

Rooney hasn't dragged his heals or made any daft demands like sanctioning transfers like the press would have us believe

Here's another clue

Manchester United do not reveal player contract details

posted on 28/2/14

Anti rooney? Are you that much of an idiot you cant tell differenece between critisism and a dislike of a player?
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Don't talk bollox

Your anti Rooney agenda has been going on for ages. And you have not even tried to be subtle about it

posted on 28/2/14

Your anti Rooney agenda has been going on for ages. And you have not even tried to be subtle about it
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Actually Ive only highlighted it since he signed his new contract last week


I dont think hes worth the money, i didnt say he wasnt very good. And I dont think hes a game changer or world class.

Where have i said hes poor.

posted on 28/2/14

Your'e failing to understand my point UnitedRedMacca, I think Rooney is world class and what he has offered United over the years with his goals and all round team-play, hard working etc is superb, my point wasn't about Rooney's quality it never was, if you look at what you responded to I said that he can have 3 bad games, then 1 good game where as kagawa can have 1 bad game and be dropped.and I said apart from the goalscoring aspect, I never have said Kagawa could match Rooney for goals but do I think he is a more creative player and intelligent?Yes I do, in those 3 games he can score 2 goals but do I think he offered United enough as link between attack and midfield in the games? No I never think he will be that type of player like a Mata etc and will hit long 40 yard passes out wide. My original point was that Kagawa doesn't get the opportunities like Rooney and for the wage Rooney is on, we rarely see him produce a piece of brilliance like Suarez for example and that's not to say he never does.

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