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Are they really fat kids?

No. They aren't Rangers supporters.

"Charging £35 for my 2 children (6 & 9 yrs), where adults seats close to ours are paying £28, I can't understand why anyone would view that as being fair!"

There were concession tickets available where those adults are sitting that would have cost your 6 & 9 yr olds £10.

Its is not my fault, or the SFA's fault that someone has nipped in and got those tickets in front of you.

"£35 is expensive. I paid £25 4 years ago. What's that, a 40% increase in 4 years?"

Well 5 years ago, I paid £35 a ticket for the same game, and the reason I paid £35 a ticket is becasue the SFA didnt have to bring the ticket price down to fill the stadium enough, there was enough demand from Rangers and Falkirk fans to sell the whole place out wihtout dropping the price.

So sorry if I cant feel sorry for a Dundee United fan, angry at having to pay the going rate that the rest of us have to pay if becasue we turn out in number for games like this without the need for concession prices

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Its is not my fault, or the SFA's fault that someone has nipped in and got those tickets in front of you.
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But it's the SFA's fault that not enough concessions were made available to accomodate the demand for concession tickets.


And St3vie, just to hammer this point home - we felt sorry for you having to pay £35 for kids to go. Just as we feel sorry for every other parent having to fork out that kind of money.

I want to make this clear because you seem obsessed about it - this IS NOT about selling the ground out. I personally couldn't give a fluck if it was sold out or not. I don't expect it to be sold out and it doesn't bother me either way.

What does bother me is that families are being forced out of the game because they aren't making enough concessions available. This isn't about getting more United fans to the game, it's about getting more young football supporters to games, and I'd be saying the exact same thing if this was any other club who was fighting this fight, including Rangers.

This isn't a Dundee United issue. It's a Scottish football issue and you want to see that.

The demand for concession tickets from Dundee United fans is the problem here as far as I can see.

This IS about selling the ground out.

If the ground was going to be a sellout, with enough paying fans willing to pay £35 a ticket, there would be no argument here, there would be no fund either because all the tickets would be snapped up and that'd be it...this is what happens in most old firm finals, there is no need to looby the SFa to get more concessions on sale because people want to go to the game enough or bring thier kids enough to just pay the dosh and thats that.

Because United cant sell out say 40,000 tickets easily, there is then greater demand from United on the SFA to give them more concessions, in order to get a bigger crowd, accomodate youngsters, bolster the numbers.

So the point you miss time and again is that this whole fckng argument has everything to do with the stadium selling out, because if it was a sell out already, that'd be that, and you have even made arguments suggesting the SFA should lower the ticket price, in order TO sell out the ground, so its all about getting numbers up and the issues surrounding that.

All becsue St Johnstone and United cant contemplate getting 50,000 fans together for the nation's showpiece cup final.

That aint the SFA's problem,nits United's and St Johnstones problem

9 times out of 10 for these finals, the demand meets the supply

You, as per fcking usual, are expecting the SFA to bend over backward for you, because the demand aint fcking there

Given the choice of paying £35 a ticket or not getting a ticket, it comes down to how much you want it.

United fans have the luxury not having to get in there and get in there quick to make sure they can get a seat at the game....yet they argue about fcking ticket prices.

Fans of other clubs dont have that luxury, they need to get in and get in qucik most times or they dont get to go at all, it doesnt even get as far as an argumetn of paying £35 for a kid to go to the game, they cant even get one themselves sometimes never mind the wean!!

So again, I am sorry that I cant feel sympathy for the poor United fan who wont pay the £35 to take his lad to the game, whne there are doesnt of seats availabe and plenty opportunity for a United fan to take his lad to the game, or to even take 20 lads to the game.

There are no doubt 100s of Rangers and Celtic supporting fathers who dont get the chance to sit and haggle over ticket price because the ticekts for such games are swept up quick sharp and thats that

so again, gies piece.

Buy your tickets and stop fcking whinging

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St3vie, I stopped reading that after a couple of paragraphs.

It shouldn't matter if the game is going to sell out or not.

I find it scandalous that concessions are limited to 2 out of the 4 stands.

I find it scandalous that an 8 year old has to pay £35 to watch a game of football.

I find it scandalous that a pensioner has to pay £35 to watch a game of football.

A huge amount of people agree with me.

I'm sure a number of people agree with you too. But then that's the society we live in these days - "feck the poor and who gives a feck about them anyway?"

That's not a society that I want to live in.

I'm out of this argument now because quite frankly it's going nowhere.

"It shouldn't matter if the game is going to sell out or not."

Bollox

I find it scandalous that United fans are wanting special treatment from the SFA with regards to ticket prices becsue they have the luxury of pickign and choosing who they want to bring to the game.

Perhaps if your club was involved in a game like the 2008 Uefa Cup Final, and the mad dash for tickets that ensued, the prices paid and money it cost for Rangers fans to get themselves to teh game let alone the weans, you might see where I am coming from.

Sadly though, becasue United have plenty of capacity at Tannadice every week, and your fans pay £3 to get the wean in to help half fill a stadium each wek....you have absolutely no concept of what my argument is

In simple terms, United shoudl perhaps be glad that they can take as many people as they want to such a a massive game like this, so hearing them bleat about how much it is going to cost them, aint a fcking argument I have time for or that I am going to listen to

St3vie you're being a fúcking cóck on this.

Boo fúcking hoo that you struggle to get a ticket. It matters not a fúcking jot to this argument.

So what, your argument is that because you as a Rangers supporter have to suffer due to limited capacity and therefore your club, other clubs and the SFA can milk you for whatever they want then every other club should have to suffer that? Fúck off.

As for being glad we can take as many as we want and we can take 20 kids if we want...have you got a spare £700 to take these 20 kids to a game? Of course you fecking don't so don't give me your shíte about that.

Basically you're happy to see the poor shafted because you're alright. A fúcking disgusting attitude.

And we don't want special treatment at all. What we want is affordable tickets for every club for cup finals. You're making this about United when the truth is it's not about that at all.

Like I say, you're making yourself look like an utter cóck here.

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Couldn't resist, ginger

In all seriousness I'm quite gutted not to be going as I've never been to Celtic Park and this would have been a good opportunity.

"Boo fúcking hoo that you struggle to get a ticket. It matters not a fúcking jot to this argument."

Yes it does

When some fans have to fight to even get a seat, they are not going to have much time to listen fans bleating about the cost of a seat

Imagine you were desperate to go to a concert, and all the tickets got snapped up, then you speak to someone moaning about how much the face value of them was.....you'd be like "at least you got a fcking ticket ya unt!!"

My argument is that the going rate for a ticket for the Scottish Cup final is about £35, that is not OTT when you look at other cup finals and other top games in Scotland, and if fans of clubs with big demand have to pay these prices, which are not daylight robbery, so do fans of other club that dont have that big demand and have the luxury of there being enough seats available to take the weans if they want to.

£35 a ticket for a major event is not ripping the hole out of it.

The Scottish Cup final is an event for all, kids to pensioners....and in the main its £35 a ticket.

The main audience for a One Direction concert is weans, much is a ticket for something like that, starting price is probably about £30, and fck knows how much it could go up to....so agian, for me, £35 is a reasonable amount for amjor event like this, and it is even more reasonable when its the price that only has to be paid once ALL concessions are sold, which they are, and thats the way the cookie crumbles.

"What we want is affordable tickets for every club for cup finals."....£35 is affordable for other clubs and other people. Not for United fans, thats the issue here, United have made it about themselves by bleating when others would rather pay what it takes to get themselves and their weans to the cup final

I absolutely guarantee you that if this game was a sell out already, there would be fck all argument getting made here about how much the tickets are, you'd just be glad you got one....and thats the point here that you just will not accept

"What we want is affordable tickets for every club for cup finals."....£35 is affordable for other clubs and other people. Not for United fans, thats the issue here, United have made it about themselves by bleating when others would rather pay what it takes to get themselves and their weans to the cup final
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Bollócks

Absolute pash of the highest order

Every single year people complain about the cost of the tickets. Every year. It's only this year something has been done through supporters, predominantly United supporters but also fans of other teams, raising money to help those who can't afford it go to the game. In doing so it's raised the issue of ticket pricing and asked is it acceptable to charge kids £35 for a ticket.

It's asking questions that families across Scotland have been asking for a long time. Are you trying to tell me that a Rangers supporting family of four wouldn't be delighted to see a reduction in the cost of their kids tickets for next years final if they got through? Or a Celtic fan? Or an Aberdeen fan? Or a Dumbarton fan? Of course they'd prefer it.

I'm sure plenty of Rangers, Celtic and whoever else fans have grudged having to pay £35 down the years but they've done it because they've had to. Well we are having to do it but at the same time we're showing it up as much as possible and hopefully it'll be reviewed in years to come.

Unless of course you're in St3vie's household. Because then you're just happy to pay whatever they ask for you and your kids to go.

Of course I would like to see ticket prices come down.

But the SFA are not pricing people out of the cup final.

and yes, I am sure there are fans of Rangers and Celtic that have grudged paying £35 down the years, but at the end of the day, a cup final, is a cup final, its a premium game, and if you want to go, you pay the ticket price.

When ticket prices reach ridiculous levels, thats whne questions should be asked. I dont think a tenner more than the paying adult price at Tannadice is all that ridiculous, and if you are having to pay that for a wean, well thats becasue you have missed out on the concessions isnt it??

At the end of the day, going to a fotball match, in my eyes, is as much of a luxury as going to a gig or some other event......poor people dont have those luxuries, i dont have many of those luxuries, I live out in the sticks and most of my money is used on family expenses.

I cant afford to go to Ibrox every week, because the travelling is just too much for me, and that along with the price of a ticket is something that I simply cant afford, so I dont go, and I accept that.

When I do go, I do not grudge paying £35 a ticket, and if its the cup final, I know I must pay £35 a ticket, so it boils down to how much I can afford and how much I want to go. If I cant afford it....I dont go, I'm not being priced out, I've just not got the cash to go, I just cant afford the going rate, thats no-one else fault, its mine, thats how I see it.

If the going rate was less, great, but giving the SFA pelters for these prices when others charge far far more, thats unfair I think, very unfair.

£35 is the going rate, the SFA needs to bring money in, the final is a big money maker for them, they are not charging the crazy prices you hear in England like £40 starting price, rising to £60 and £100.

This isnt a £3 concession game at Tannadice, or a league game at Ibrox, its the fcking cup final

Those that can afford to go, pay the price.
Those that cant, watch the telly

I cant afford a season ticket at Ibrox

Dont hear me saying Rangers are pricing me out of going to the fitba.

I've just spent more money in other areas, meaning the fitba is a luxury I'll need to go without and thats it.

But the SFA are not pricing people out of the cup final.
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They are. This isn't a debatable issue. People are unable to go because of this. I have first hand evidence of this.


I hear your point about football being a luxury thing and I get that, I really do. But what I'm saying is, and I think most people agree with me on this, is that should we really be charging kids full price for any game?

Particularly given the link above to spectating and participating. And ultimately it's the SFA's remit to get as many kids as possible to participate.

I believe there should be concessions in every stand in the ground for the final. You obviously don't agree with that. But as a kid that missed out on a cup final - and a cup final for a supporter of a non-OF team is a massive deal - I don't want to see kids miss out because they are priced out. And I believe it's something the SFA need to address.

I think the SFA's silence on this matter - and that matter again is the lack of concessions around the ground - damages them.

How many concessions where there?

Parkhead holds about 60,000 right

From what I have read, there were something like 17,000 concessions tickets available, thats nearly a 3rd of the ground.

That leaves a third of the ground for full price paying St Johnstone fans, and a third of the ground for full price paying Dundee United fans.

How much of the ground should the SFA allows concessions in like??

Is a third of the ground open to familes and pensioners not enough like??

United have to look at themsevles if they have allowed season ticket holders, that are not pensioners, and who dont have kids, pay £28 for a ticket instead of £35.

Again, thats not the SFA's fault in my opinion, and a third of the ground given up for concesions tickets is decent enough in my view

Don't let your kids grow up thinking football is a TV show

If people can't afford £35 in the space of 5 weeks after seeing their team qualify for a Scottish cup final then that's their own problem to be honest.

£6 per week and they have a ticket.

As for weans etc, i've never once had a concession ticket for any game home, away or neutral venue.

As Stevie has said £35 is not the worst price for a Cup final.

If you have moer than 2 kids and pay more than £100 then that's your choice to take them to the game.

There was never as much bleating about Celtic or Rangers fans being charged £25 to stand in a wooden shed or a flucking gazeebo while other fans pay £15.

If people want to follow their team then sadly it costs money these days

Exactly NNH

For me, it all comes back to the point about gaps in the stadium.

Thompson is again giving it laldy about the stadium being empty becasue the SFA are apparently charging too much for tickets.

Other clubs fill the ground for a cup final with these prices

Other clubs find a third of the ground open for concessions reasonable for a cup final

I don't know how many actual concessions there were.

There was a misconception that there were 16,000 concession tickets. That was inaccurate. There were concession tickets available in the stand that held 16,000 people. How many of those 16k were concession tickets I don't know.

I do agree with your point about the way United dealt with the ticketing by the way.



Robbie (Barry), 100% agree with that.

Are you looking forward to tomorrow? It'll be just like Dundee to blow it

Thompson is again giving it laldy about the stadium being empty becasue the SFA are apparently charging too much for tickets.
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Has he? Where?



Other clubs fill the ground for a cup final with these prices
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Which clubs have filled a 60k stadium with these prices apart from Rangers and Celtic?


Other clubs find a third of the ground open for concessions reasonable for a cup final
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Are you sure about that? How many of them have you asked?



NNH - it works out to more than £6 per week if you're bringing a couple of kids with you. And I think it's disgraceful that you never got a concession when you were younger. That's the kind of thing that should be stopped in my opinion.

All other SPL teams at the time used to supply 5% of their allocation to Celtic and Rangers for concession tickets.

It also used to work on how your season book was registerred with your club, for example mine was an adult due to the fact there were no kids allowed at my section.

Thompson for one can have no claim in my opinion though, this guy charged us £27 per ticket to attempt to sit in that woeful part of the stadium 4 days after i paid £24 to watch Celtic play Barcelona.

I'm sorry but for me to Thompson it's a big GIRFUY