Anyways how does a man that sounds that soft become a hotshot tycoon billionaire flexing his muscle on governing bodies like the FA & UEFA

If that isn't motivation to make all the money in the world, I don't know what else is.

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I know I let out little quips every now and then, it's all jokes, but I genuinely want us to become a self-sustaining club where we don't actually need 'owners'.

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Brighton haven't even spent that much in the PL era, they have been one of the overall's lowest spenders for the past few seasons.

Villa is a different case, I don't know their finances, but they have just been promoted which will have earned them x millions and look at the players they have bought and for the fees, wages, agent fees etc. There is no comparison. They also don't exactly have a great record when it comes to spending their money wisely. Look at all the bother they got in when they got relegated and when they were in the Championship as they were spending above their means.

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comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - FSG Out! (U1108)
posted 38 minutes ago
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/431970-john-henry-s-message-to-liverpool-supporters

Cowboy is now apologising. Let's hope the fans don't end up buying it.
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We forgive you dear leader best owner ever
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I'm going to ask you one more time, because I have asked you many times and you have never answered....

Every bit of income and expenditure is published for all to see. What part of what we see do you have an issue with? It is clear that we spend what we have available. We are run within our means. Literally every penny is accounted for and there in black and white.
What money do you want him/us to spend when we don't have it?

I have no time left for him or the board after this stunt, but for years you have cried about money and investments without giving one reason why you think we have this magical amount of money to spend that has come from..... where?
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comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
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Probably the same magical place that Brighton and Aston Villa find it from, despite hundreds of millions less in CL money and hundreds of millions less in PL money these last 5 years. Also I only started moaning last summer.
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Sigh. You seen the difference is wages? In agents fees? In rebuilding Anfield? Like I said, literally every penny is accounted for. You're basically crying about something without even taking the time to look at everything that is readily available to you and answers every question.
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This.

They don't take money out, which is a hell of a lot better than most owners in the league,

They have dragged the club out of the 80s during their tenure, stopped us going bankrupt, have put in their own money, have given us near zero interest loans for infrastructure investment, increased our sponsership to one of the highest in the league, have reinvested every penny from player sales, attracted one of the best coaches in world football to the club and have grown us from buying youth rejects with high potential (Sturridge/coutinho) to buying the likes of Becker and VVD.

There are far far far worse owners we could have, people calling for FSGs head are extremely shortsighted about what the alternative will be, unless we win the jackpot with an oil tycoon, which will also rip the heart out of the club we will end up with people wanting those dividends like the glazers,

You don't spend 4bn on a purchase unless you are obscenely rich and bored, or you want a passive income. The fact that FSG got the club cheap, and only care about the value of their investment fund and its assets is the best we will get.

I think it was a good message from Henry, seemed a lot more genuine than I thought it would.

Henry still hasn't learnt, from the attempted ticket price increase to the furloughing to this. And he claims he trusts in the expertise of his lfc team fack off John.

Also, I think there's an inevitability that to garner more income we will now need to persue a Liverpool group structure similar to the City group,

Clubs around the world, with our colours, imitating our badge, probably singing our anthem, used to scout players and sell sponserships/kits on a more attractive basis to suppliers,

It will probably also see us jetting off all over the place each preseason to grow those clubs presence with exhibitions against us.

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From what I've read Henry just simply doesnt understand why we have relegation and promotion. He thinks it's weird.

i dont think any of his senior figures at lfc involved in the game with a footballing background would have advised him to go ahead with any of it and told him exactly why. But instead he loves finding out the hard way doesn't he after dragging our name through the mud.

Perhaps I'm wrong here but was it really John Henry that put staff on furlough? This is on him, absolutely and that won't be forgiven but I highly doubt he would have been part of that decision and that would have been made in the UK.

I may be wrong.

They don't take money out (for now). They provide us with interest free loans to build infrastructure behind the scenes. They write off debt immediately (part of the interest free loans) so that we don't take credit from banks and it also allows us to be competitive in the market.

They do some good things too. They do some bad things. There things they can do better too.

Not everyone can hit the lottery like City. Even Chelsea spend within their means these days.

https://youtu.be/oYOZ3IzRaf4

John should have gone for this approach. It would have appeared more genuine

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They don't take money out (for now). They provide us with interest free loans to build infrastructure behind the scenes. They write off debt immediately (part of the interest free loans) so that we don't take credit from banks and it also allows us to be competitive in the market.

They do some good things too. They do some bad things. There things they can do better too.

Not everyone can hit the lottery like City. Even Chelsea spend within their means these days.
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All the bad things they do are PR.. I can more than live with that considering how far they have bought the club.

comment by *Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 1 minute ago
They don't take money out (for now). They provide us with interest free loans to build infrastructure behind the scenes. They write off debt immediately (part of the interest free loans) so that we don't take credit from banks and it also allows us to be competitive in the market.

They do some good things too. They do some bad things. There things they can do better too.

Not everyone can hit the lottery like City. Even Chelsea spend within their means these days.
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So do City.

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 39 seconds ago
From what I've read Henry just simply doesnt understand why we have relegation and promotion. He thinks it's weird.
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American sports eh.

Also isn't Gordon supposed to be a life long Liverpool supporter. How the hell did he not warn them against permanent placement.

I just hope we don't have a bunch of yes men reporting to Henry & Werner.

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comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 39 seconds ago
From what I've read Henry just simply doesnt understand why we have relegation and promotion. He thinks it's weird.
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American sports eh.

Also isn't Gordon supposed to be a life long Liverpool supporter. How the hell did he not warn them against permanent placement.

I just hope we don't have a bunch of yes men reporting to Henry & Werner.
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I imagine we do unfortunately hence the fvck ups. I mean I could have told you this, furlough and increasing ticket prices was not a great idea.

I've also read most of the boards of the six had various members who were absolutely not in favour of this.

The best thing I can see coming out of this is that Henry will absolutely hate the egg on his face currently and he won't like being so disliked by the fans unlike the likes of Abramovic and the Glazers who don't give a shiiiiiit.

Big summer on the cards potentially.

Have they really been good owners? i think so, but am i just comparing them vs the lowest? the previous yank owners?

I think they got a lot wrong to begin with, the moneyball stuff will commoli did not work. It only changed when they bagged Jurgen.

I think their work outside football was always good even before we were good they were getting better sponsorships for us etc and closing the gap. Clearly good business men but good owners? more i ask myself that and thing about it leads to no not really. Bad owners? no not really, because despite their huge fack ups they've always been made to see sense in the end and apologise. Its just sad they keep making the same mistake and damaging our clubs name rather than learning and asking the appropiate people.

If I could see something good coming out of this then I really hope they regulate ownership more in some way.