comment by righteous1 (U7048)
posted 2 minutes ago
Januzaj wins hands down on hype.
People comparing him to Robben (bizarrely as he has little pace which is Robben's biggest strength), Zidane and all sorts, while Martin Tyler at the start of the season was so far up his bum he was looking through his eyes.
All the hype seems to have convinced a lot of Utd fans that he is some kind of world beater, which to date his performances have not backed up at all.
I agree he looks very classy on the ball, and strikes the ball very well, but that has not in any way so far developed into coherent performances. It might do over time, but for people comparing him to some of the best in the world in recent years is just embarrassing for them.
Of course it doesn't help that Moyes was his manager, and that Utd have competition for his best likely position, but being managed by Moyes didn't stop Rooney looking properly world class at 17 in performances, not just the odd fleeting moment, as Rooney proved with his Euro's display under Sven, another manager that most don't rate.
As for Sterling, he is a very different type of player to Januzaj in terms of style, but as they are similar age and similar position they can be compared.
Sterling has had the benefit of being part of a weaker group so got first team exposure earlier, but this season he has excelled with consistent performance, not just fleeting moments, in a high pressure title run he was one of if not our best player. That is some going when Suarez and Gerrard are in the same team. All this while playing at the tip of the diamond for the first time in his career.
Januzaj has quality and I am sure he will have a good career littered with great goals, but to date only one player has looked like a consistent top drawer performer and that's Sterling.
Van Gaal has a great reputation with young players so many next season Januzaj will explode and prove the hype, I wonder if he doesn't though what the excuses will be next summer?
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I'd have to agree that he has been over-hyped.
That said, he has had a decent first season and we have seen enough to form the opinion that he is a bit special. Hopefully he develops further next season and does the same as Sterling has this last year.
i did not compare him to macheda.
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In that respect of whether he will be or wont be good enough I think he wont and end up like Macheda
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Like I said, you're having a mare.
I don't think anyone is saying he will be as good as Ronaldo. The point is, the OT fans know that he is a bit special - just as they did with Ronaldo.
If you had actually watched him play this season, you'd know that he is a talented player. So why you expect him to go the same way as Macheda is beyond me. Unless you are on the wum. Which we all know you are. Don't get all prissy because you've had that pointed out to you.
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For the last time i just mean that like Macheda he wont make it at united. I could use any of your failed youth for that example.
How many times did you watch Sterling? Or Coutinho? Make it snappy.
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
i did not compare him to macheda.
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In that respect of whether he will be or wont be good enough I think he wont and end up like Macheda
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Like I said, you're having a mare.
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Because i forgot to put in a comma? Why are you so wound up?
comment by Red Mamba - Real Sosobad (U1282) (U13041)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't think anyone is saying he will be as good as Ronaldo. The point is, the OT fans know that he is a bit special - just as they did with Ronaldo.
If you had actually watched him play this season, you'd know that he is a talented player. So why you expect him to go the same way as Macheda is beyond me. Unless you are on the wum. Which we all know you are. Don't get all prissy because you've had that pointed out to you.
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For the last time i just mean that like Macheda he wont make it at united. I could use any of your failed youth for that example.
How many times did you watch Sterling? Or Coutinho? Make it snappy.
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Enough to know that they are both very talented players. Coutinho was a steal.
But I think you are confusing me with Winston. It was him you were talking to about how often you have watched Adnan.
Wound up? I'm finding your clueless posts highly entertaining.
No actually the question was directed at screen. Apologies.
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Wound up? I'm finding your clueless posts highly entertaining.
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Then be a good boy and stop getting in the way. People might think you actually have something to say.
I'd disagee Red Mamba, Macheda did score that goal v Villa and then sort of faded off but already you can see Janujaj has more talent then he ever did.
Januzaj carries the ball without any effort that's a rare enough talent on it's own, he has good technique too and a good eye for a pass.
He needs to bulk up but at that age it can be a quicker progress for some then others. Lots of steaks and press ups this summer!
Get in the way of you being tied in knots? Sorry, I shall then.
Robbing has already won the thread with his post anyway, so there's not really much more to add - hence why the article has descended into people putting holes in your ridiculous posts.
A bit of fun all the same.
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comment by Red Mamba - Real Sosobad (U1282) (U13041)
posted 4 minutes ago
No actually the question was directed at screen. Apologies.
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I can instantly remember the the match against City, In which sterling was awesome,
Unless you are complete numbskull, You'd be expected to remember a single match in which you formed a strong opinion on a player. nearly hour into the question and you yet to name a single match. no surprise everyone on the thread thinks you are an idiot
comment by Respected Ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 1 minute ago
Unfair to compare them because I believe Januzaj is a year younger, and that makes a lot of difference at those ages. Sterling was awful last year. This season Sterling has been the better player by a distance. Firstly he's been better and more consistent. He's done it against the big teams like City and Arsenal. The best and sole contribution Januzaj managed against a big team was an assist against Tottenham. Sterling was also at his best at the peak of the pressure of a title challenge in March and April. Januzaj didn't really have much pressure on him, expecially from January onwards when it became clear Man U were not in the hunt for top 4 and they were just playing for Europa (which they didn't even want).
Despite that, it is much better to judge when they're 24-25 years old when they will have reached their potential. At the moment I think Sterling has the better mentality and importantly the better coach, which will ensure he fulfills his entire potential, so I think he'll be the better player. Both look like being stars though.
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Sterling is 3 months older. But yeah, it is his first season being part of the first team
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'd disagee Red Mamba, Macheda did score that goal v Villa and then sort of faded off but already you can see Janujaj has more talent then he ever did.
Januzaj carries the ball without any effort that's a rare enough talent on it's own, he has good technique too and a good eye for a pass.
He needs to bulk up but at that age it can be a quicker progress for some then others. Lots of steaks and press ups this summer!
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I agree Januzaj is better than Macheda. i wasn't comparing their skills rather their futures at united which i think will be similar though Januzaj will stay a while longer yet.
"All the hype seems to have convinced a lot of Utd fans that he is some kind of world beater, which to date his performances have not backed up at all."
Did you even bother reading United fans' comments before you wrote that nonsense?
comment by Respected Ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 1 minute ago
Unfair to compare them because I believe Januzaj is a year younger, and that makes a lot of difference at those ages. Sterling was awful last year.
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I wouldn't say he was awful. He started really well and faded a bit but no way was he awful.
comment by Respected Ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 3 minutes ago
Unfair to compare them because I believe Januzaj is a year younger, and that makes a lot of difference at those ages. Sterling was awful last year. This season Sterling has been the better player by a distance. Firstly he's been better and more consistent. He's done it against the big teams like City and Arsenal. The best and sole contribution Januzaj managed against a big team was an assist against Tottenham. Sterling was also at his best at the peak of the pressure of a title challenge in March and April. Januzaj didn't really have much pressure on him, expecially from January onwards when it became clear Man U were not in the hunt for top 4 and they were just playing for Europa (which they didn't even want).
Despite that, it is much better to judge when they're 24-25 years old when they will have reached their potential. At the moment I think Sterling has the better mentality and importantly the better coach, which will ensure he fulfills his entire potential, so I think he'll be the better player. Both look like being stars though.
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All fair points.
Adnan now has to take his game on and continue to progress. I think that LVG will do a better job helping him with that than Moyes would have.
comment by 5x (U5488)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Respected Ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 1 minute ago
Unfair to compare them because I believe Januzaj is a year younger, and that makes a lot of difference at those ages. Sterling was awful last year.
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I wouldn't say he was awful. He started really well and faded a bit but no way was he awful.
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I agree with that. The same happened with Adnan, with him then finding a bit of form towards the end of the season. They had very similar first seasons, as did Ronaldo.
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comment by Respected Ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 47 seconds ago
All fair points.
Adnan now has to take his game on and continue to progress. I think that LVG will do a better job helping him with that than Moyes would have.
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Yeah that will definitely help. Tbh I'm shocked Moyes played him, he was allergic to young players at Everton. LVG is strict so that will get the young players in line. Sterling was a bit of a bell when Rodgers took over, but he's quickly sorted him out and he's looked much better for it.
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One of the few things that he got right this season. Whether it would have happened had Young and Nani not been injured so much I am not so sure.
Where do you guys see Sterlings future position being?
He's looked pretty comfortable in all the attacking positions behind the striker from what I've seen.
You think he'll nail down a spot on the wing or be moved into a central role behind the striker?
I suppose with Coutinho potentially taking up that position Sterling may play wide, but his pace, movement and goal scoring - which has improved a lot - could potentially make him a more useful player behind the striker than Coutinho, despite Coutinho possessing better playmaking ability.
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comment by Respected Ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 1 minute ago
Darren if we get Lallana I imagine we will play 3 attacking midfielders with no wingers, the fullbacks will provide the width.
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I am hoping that we do the same. It certainly suits our current squad.
Januzaj is very good. But I think Sterling could be something very special
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Januzaj vs Sterling
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posted on 20/5/14
Elvis
posted on 20/5/14
comment by righteous1 (U7048)
posted 2 minutes ago
Januzaj wins hands down on hype.
People comparing him to Robben (bizarrely as he has little pace which is Robben's biggest strength), Zidane and all sorts, while Martin Tyler at the start of the season was so far up his bum he was looking through his eyes.
All the hype seems to have convinced a lot of Utd fans that he is some kind of world beater, which to date his performances have not backed up at all.
I agree he looks very classy on the ball, and strikes the ball very well, but that has not in any way so far developed into coherent performances. It might do over time, but for people comparing him to some of the best in the world in recent years is just embarrassing for them.
Of course it doesn't help that Moyes was his manager, and that Utd have competition for his best likely position, but being managed by Moyes didn't stop Rooney looking properly world class at 17 in performances, not just the odd fleeting moment, as Rooney proved with his Euro's display under Sven, another manager that most don't rate.
As for Sterling, he is a very different type of player to Januzaj in terms of style, but as they are similar age and similar position they can be compared.
Sterling has had the benefit of being part of a weaker group so got first team exposure earlier, but this season he has excelled with consistent performance, not just fleeting moments, in a high pressure title run he was one of if not our best player. That is some going when Suarez and Gerrard are in the same team. All this while playing at the tip of the diamond for the first time in his career.
Januzaj has quality and I am sure he will have a good career littered with great goals, but to date only one player has looked like a consistent top drawer performer and that's Sterling.
Van Gaal has a great reputation with young players so many next season Januzaj will explode and prove the hype, I wonder if he doesn't though what the excuses will be next summer?
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I'd have to agree that he has been over-hyped.
That said, he has had a decent first season and we have seen enough to form the opinion that he is a bit special. Hopefully he develops further next season and does the same as Sterling has this last year.
posted on 20/5/14
i did not compare him to macheda.
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In that respect of whether he will be or wont be good enough I think he wont and end up like Macheda
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Like I said, you're having a mare.
posted on 20/5/14
I don't think anyone is saying he will be as good as Ronaldo. The point is, the OT fans know that he is a bit special - just as they did with Ronaldo.
If you had actually watched him play this season, you'd know that he is a talented player. So why you expect him to go the same way as Macheda is beyond me. Unless you are on the wum. Which we all know you are. Don't get all prissy because you've had that pointed out to you.
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For the last time i just mean that like Macheda he wont make it at united. I could use any of your failed youth for that example.
How many times did you watch Sterling? Or Coutinho? Make it snappy.
posted on 20/5/14
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
i did not compare him to macheda.
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In that respect of whether he will be or wont be good enough I think he wont and end up like Macheda
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Like I said, you're having a mare.
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Because i forgot to put in a comma? Why are you so wound up?
posted on 20/5/14
comment by Red Mamba - Real Sosobad (U1282) (U13041)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't think anyone is saying he will be as good as Ronaldo. The point is, the OT fans know that he is a bit special - just as they did with Ronaldo.
If you had actually watched him play this season, you'd know that he is a talented player. So why you expect him to go the same way as Macheda is beyond me. Unless you are on the wum. Which we all know you are. Don't get all prissy because you've had that pointed out to you.
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For the last time i just mean that like Macheda he wont make it at united. I could use any of your failed youth for that example.
How many times did you watch Sterling? Or Coutinho? Make it snappy.
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Enough to know that they are both very talented players. Coutinho was a steal.
But I think you are confusing me with Winston. It was him you were talking to about how often you have watched Adnan.
posted on 20/5/14
Wound up? I'm finding your clueless posts highly entertaining.
posted on 20/5/14
No actually the question was directed at screen. Apologies.
posted on 20/5/14
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Wound up? I'm finding your clueless posts highly entertaining.
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Then be a good boy and stop getting in the way. People might think you actually have something to say.
posted on 20/5/14
I'd disagee Red Mamba, Macheda did score that goal v Villa and then sort of faded off but already you can see Janujaj has more talent then he ever did.
Januzaj carries the ball without any effort that's a rare enough talent on it's own, he has good technique too and a good eye for a pass.
He needs to bulk up but at that age it can be a quicker progress for some then others. Lots of steaks and press ups this summer!
posted on 20/5/14
Get in the way of you being tied in knots? Sorry, I shall then.
Robbing has already won the thread with his post anyway, so there's not really much more to add - hence why the article has descended into people putting holes in your ridiculous posts.
A bit of fun all the same.
posted on 20/5/14
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posted on 20/5/14
comment by Red Mamba - Real Sosobad (U1282) (U13041)
posted 4 minutes ago
No actually the question was directed at screen. Apologies.
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I can instantly remember the the match against City, In which sterling was awesome,
Unless you are complete numbskull, You'd be expected to remember a single match in which you formed a strong opinion on a player. nearly hour into the question and you yet to name a single match. no surprise everyone on the thread thinks you are an idiot
posted on 20/5/14
comment by Respected Ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 1 minute ago
Unfair to compare them because I believe Januzaj is a year younger, and that makes a lot of difference at those ages. Sterling was awful last year. This season Sterling has been the better player by a distance. Firstly he's been better and more consistent. He's done it against the big teams like City and Arsenal. The best and sole contribution Januzaj managed against a big team was an assist against Tottenham. Sterling was also at his best at the peak of the pressure of a title challenge in March and April. Januzaj didn't really have much pressure on him, expecially from January onwards when it became clear Man U were not in the hunt for top 4 and they were just playing for Europa (which they didn't even want).
Despite that, it is much better to judge when they're 24-25 years old when they will have reached their potential. At the moment I think Sterling has the better mentality and importantly the better coach, which will ensure he fulfills his entire potential, so I think he'll be the better player. Both look like being stars though.
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Sterling is 3 months older. But yeah, it is his first season being part of the first team
posted on 20/5/14
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'd disagee Red Mamba, Macheda did score that goal v Villa and then sort of faded off but already you can see Janujaj has more talent then he ever did.
Januzaj carries the ball without any effort that's a rare enough talent on it's own, he has good technique too and a good eye for a pass.
He needs to bulk up but at that age it can be a quicker progress for some then others. Lots of steaks and press ups this summer!
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I agree Januzaj is better than Macheda. i wasn't comparing their skills rather their futures at united which i think will be similar though Januzaj will stay a while longer yet.
posted on 20/5/14
"All the hype seems to have convinced a lot of Utd fans that he is some kind of world beater, which to date his performances have not backed up at all."
Did you even bother reading United fans' comments before you wrote that nonsense?
posted on 20/5/14
comment by Respected Ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 1 minute ago
Unfair to compare them because I believe Januzaj is a year younger, and that makes a lot of difference at those ages. Sterling was awful last year.
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I wouldn't say he was awful. He started really well and faded a bit but no way was he awful.
posted on 20/5/14
comment by Respected Ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 3 minutes ago
Unfair to compare them because I believe Januzaj is a year younger, and that makes a lot of difference at those ages. Sterling was awful last year. This season Sterling has been the better player by a distance. Firstly he's been better and more consistent. He's done it against the big teams like City and Arsenal. The best and sole contribution Januzaj managed against a big team was an assist against Tottenham. Sterling was also at his best at the peak of the pressure of a title challenge in March and April. Januzaj didn't really have much pressure on him, expecially from January onwards when it became clear Man U were not in the hunt for top 4 and they were just playing for Europa (which they didn't even want).
Despite that, it is much better to judge when they're 24-25 years old when they will have reached their potential. At the moment I think Sterling has the better mentality and importantly the better coach, which will ensure he fulfills his entire potential, so I think he'll be the better player. Both look like being stars though.
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All fair points.
Adnan now has to take his game on and continue to progress. I think that LVG will do a better job helping him with that than Moyes would have.
posted on 20/5/14
comment by 5x (U5488)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Respected Ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 1 minute ago
Unfair to compare them because I believe Januzaj is a year younger, and that makes a lot of difference at those ages. Sterling was awful last year.
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I wouldn't say he was awful. He started really well and faded a bit but no way was he awful.
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I agree with that. The same happened with Adnan, with him then finding a bit of form towards the end of the season. They had very similar first seasons, as did Ronaldo.
posted on 20/5/14
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posted on 20/5/14
comment by Respected Ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 47 seconds ago
All fair points.
Adnan now has to take his game on and continue to progress. I think that LVG will do a better job helping him with that than Moyes would have.
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Yeah that will definitely help. Tbh I'm shocked Moyes played him, he was allergic to young players at Everton. LVG is strict so that will get the young players in line. Sterling was a bit of a bell when Rodgers took over, but he's quickly sorted him out and he's looked much better for it.
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One of the few things that he got right this season. Whether it would have happened had Young and Nani not been injured so much I am not so sure.
posted on 20/5/14
Where do you guys see Sterlings future position being?
He's looked pretty comfortable in all the attacking positions behind the striker from what I've seen.
You think he'll nail down a spot on the wing or be moved into a central role behind the striker?
I suppose with Coutinho potentially taking up that position Sterling may play wide, but his pace, movement and goal scoring - which has improved a lot - could potentially make him a more useful player behind the striker than Coutinho, despite Coutinho possessing better playmaking ability.
posted on 20/5/14
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posted on 20/5/14
comment by Respected Ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 1 minute ago
Darren if we get Lallana I imagine we will play 3 attacking midfielders with no wingers, the fullbacks will provide the width.
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I am hoping that we do the same. It certainly suits our current squad.
posted on 20/5/14
Januzaj is very good. But I think Sterling could be something very special
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