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posted on 9/6/14

Pantilimon would be a great signing. Was City's no 1 at one point. Although he may be looking for first team football.

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posted on 9/6/14

According to Dave, we need to spend more on a quality keeper in case our 1st choice keeper gets injured or sent off (how many PL games did he miss last season?) but we shouldn't spend big money in a proven world class footballer even though EVERY SINGLE MIDFIELDER we have missed at least a quarter of last season through injury

posted on 9/6/14

comment by ||The Great AFL©||™ (U11952)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by #AnyoneButGiroud (U18355)
posted 39 seconds ago
"Do you really think that Wenger would be planning to use Di Maria as a central midfielder?

Fabregas would not be playing 'false 9' for Arsenal. When he played for Arsenal he played deeper. The free role was part of a 4-3-3."

Ozil, Rosicky, Cazorla, Wilshere, Ramsey, Diaby, Chamberlain - Wenger has played them all central or wide at at least one stage of their career at Arsenal, some more often than not.

So saying we are overstocked in that position and then turning a blind eye to our pursuit of Di Maria and Draxler who would have done the exact same thing makes no sense whatsoever.
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Firstly, I'm pretty sure that I heard rumours claiming that Wenger wanted to use Draxler as a striker.

Secondly, were you one of the fans complaining about the lack of pace that we have? Fabregas is a lot slower than Draxler and Di Maria.
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He wanted to convert Draxler into a striker in time. Not immediately. Yes but having Theo back with a fit Ramsey and pacey forward solves those problems. Do you propose we stick with Cazorla on the left?

posted on 9/6/14

My ideal choice would be that we sign Casillas and put Shezza as no 2. He's still quite young, and Casillas is still world class, top 3 keepers around still.

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comment by 50 WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD (U1147)
posted 42 seconds ago
My ideal choice would be that we sign Casillas and put Shezza as no 2. He's still quite young, and Casillas is still world class, top 3 keepers around still.
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So you want us to spend big money on a position we are already strong in?

OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE

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posted on 9/6/14

comment by Mesutmerised by Ozil - Katie Fkn Cassidy (U19223)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by ||The Great AFL©||™ (U11952)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by #AnyoneButGiroud (U18355)
posted 39 seconds ago
"Do you really think that Wenger would be planning to use Di Maria as a central midfielder?

Fabregas would not be playing 'false 9' for Arsenal. When he played for Arsenal he played deeper. The free role was part of a 4-3-3."

Ozil, Rosicky, Cazorla, Wilshere, Ramsey, Diaby, Chamberlain - Wenger has played them all central or wide at at least one stage of their career at Arsenal, some more often than not.

So saying we are overstocked in that position and then turning a blind eye to our pursuit of Di Maria and Draxler who would have done the exact same thing makes no sense whatsoever.
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Firstly, I'm pretty sure that I heard rumours claiming that Wenger wanted to use Draxler as a striker.

Secondly, were you one of the fans complaining about the lack of pace that we have? Fabregas is a lot slower than Draxler and Di Maria.
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He wanted to convert Draxler into a striker in time. Not immediately. Yes but having Theo back with a fit Ramsey and pacey forward solves those problems. Do you propose we stick with Cazorla on the left?
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No, but what would signing Fabregas do about that? Who would you have playing on the left? Ozil doesn't have the defensive work-rate, Fabregas simply can't play there.

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posted on 9/6/14

"Firstly, I'm pretty sure that I heard rumours claiming that Wenger wanted to use Draxler as a striker.

Secondly, were you one of the fans complaining about the lack of pace that we have? Fabregas is a lot slower than Draxler and Di Maria."

Yes I am one of the people who think we are lacking pace UP FRONT. We need a pacy striker, I have been saying that all along. If we had Fabregas we would still have Walcott, Chamberlain and Gnabry who could play out wide who are very quick, even the likes of Ozil and Podolski are far from slouches.

posted on 9/6/14

comment by #AnyoneButGiroud (U18355)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by 50 WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD (U1147)
posted 42 seconds ago
My ideal choice would be that we sign Casillas and put Shezza as no 2. He's still quite young, and Casillas is still world class, top 3 keepers around still.
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So you want us to spend big money on a position we are already strong in?

OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE
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Do you not get the difference?

We at the moment only have one goal keeper, so we need one more...as many have pointed out what if Shezza gets injured, could a no 2 be relied upon? Madrid are doing just fine with two world class keepers.
Barca struggled without Valdez for long periods, if you want an example.

comment by IAWT (U10012)

posted on 9/6/14

comment by #AnyoneButGiroud (U18355)
posted 0 seconds ago
According to Dave, we need to spend more on a quality keeper in case our 1st choice keeper gets injured or sent off (how many PL games did he miss last season?) but we shouldn't spend big money in a proven world class footballer even though EVERY SINGLE MIDFIELDER we have missed at least a quarter of last season through injury
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No that's not what I meant but you clearly have an agenda so it is probably pointless to debate. What I'm saying is that our #2 gets more games than you think and that position shouldn't be ignored.
I'm sure if we sign a crappy keeper and get eliminate in early stage of the FA cup because of a keeper mistake you'd be the first one on this board slagging off Wenger for getting a free player instead of investing money on a proper keeper. Either way it is a lose-lose situation with you

posted on 9/6/14

comment by 50 WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD (U1147)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by #AnyoneButGiroud (U18355)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by 50 WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD (U1147)
posted 42 seconds ago
My ideal choice would be that we sign Casillas and put Shezza as no 2. He's still quite young, and Casillas is still world class, top 3 keepers around still.
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So you want us to spend big money on a position we are already strong in?

OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE
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Do you not get the difference?

We at the moment only have one goal keeper, so we need one more...as many have pointed out what if Shezza gets injured, could a no 2 be relied upon? Madrid are doing just fine with two world class keepers.
Barca struggled without Valdez for long periods, if you want an example.
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Do I not get the difference? I just pointed out your hilarious contradiction. There is NO difference. Would I turn Casillas down if we had the chance to sign him? Definitely not. He is a world class keeper and we shouldn't turn down players of his caliber. Case in point with Fabregas, who unlike Casillas IS available.

posted on 9/6/14

comment by #AnyoneButGiroud (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
"Firstly, I'm pretty sure that I heard rumours claiming that Wenger wanted to use Draxler as a striker.

Secondly, were you one of the fans complaining about the lack of pace that we have? Fabregas is a lot slower than Draxler and Di Maria."

Yes I am one of the people who think we are lacking pace UP FRONT. We need a pacy striker, I have been saying that all along. If we had Fabregas we would still have Walcott, Chamberlain and Gnabry who could play out wide who are very quick, even the likes of Ozil and Podolski are far from slouches.
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For me, pace is something that we require more than a player like Fabregas. When we lost our fast players, we struggled horrendously.

I'm also not sure that Ozil would be content with spending time on the bench. After all, that is why he left Real Madrid. He didn't want to fight for his place.

posted on 9/6/14

Mezut, yeah I get that criticism. I'm just tailing about the general disdain he has from some fans. <

Maybe it's just me because I write Wenger off but still always feel his team will do well.

posted on 9/6/14

comment by Dave.... the real one (U10012)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by #AnyoneButGiroud (U18355)
posted 0 seconds ago
According to Dave, we need to spend more on a quality keeper in case our 1st choice keeper gets injured or sent off (how many PL games did he miss last season?) but we shouldn't spend big money in a proven world class footballer even though EVERY SINGLE MIDFIELDER we have missed at least a quarter of last season through injury
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No that's not what I meant but you clearly have an agenda so it is probably pointless to debate. What I'm saying is that our #2 gets more games than you think and that position shouldn't be ignored.
I'm sure if we sign a crappy keeper and get eliminate in early stage of the FA cup because of a keeper mistake you'd be the first one on this board slagging off Wenger for getting a free player instead of investing money on a proper keeper. Either way it is a lose-lose situation with you
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I have an agenda? What is it then. What is it with you people that I can't just say what I think without being insulted or told I have an agenda or was a leading conspirator behind the 9/11 attacks?

I haven't suggested garbage keepers to play back up to Szczesney, I have suggested proven experienced PL keepers who have had solid careers at various clubs who can do a job there. I haven't suggested Almunia, Shabaan or any other dross that we've had as number 2s or even number 1s in the past.

Now can you explain to me why it is so important to spend big money on a position in the team where we seldom have injuries and it is not important to spend big money on a position of the team where we always have injuries - injuries that last season arguably cost us the league?

posted on 9/6/14

comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 8 seconds ago
Mezut, yeah I get that criticism. I'm just tailing about the general disdain he has from some fans. <

Maybe it's just me because I write Wenger off but still always feel his team will do well.
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Yeah i agree but he does make mistakes. His legacy will never be in doubt however.

posted on 9/6/14

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posted on 9/6/14

"For me, pace is something that we require more than a player like Fabregas. When we lost our fast players, we struggled horrendously.

I'm also not sure that Ozil would be content with spending time on the bench. After all, that is why he left Real Madrid. He didn't want to fight for his place."

Yes we need pace up front, in wide positions we have Walcott, Ox and hopefully Gnabry will play a lot more next season, too. Ozil is quick and can play out wide. We don't have to bench him, he is a different type of player to Fabregas and could play alongside him.

posted on 9/6/14

my bad loool

posted on 9/6/14

comment by #AnyoneButGiroud (U18355)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 50 WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD (U1147)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by #AnyoneButGiroud (U18355)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by 50 WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD (U1147)
posted 42 seconds ago
My ideal choice would be that we sign Casillas and put Shezza as no 2. He's still quite young, and Casillas is still world class, top 3 keepers around still.
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So you want us to spend big money on a position we are already strong in?

OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE
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Do you not get the difference?

We at the moment only have one goal keeper, so we need one more...as many have pointed out what if Shezza gets injured, could a no 2 be relied upon? Madrid are doing just fine with two world class keepers.
Barca struggled without Valdez for long periods, if you want an example.
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Do I not get the difference? I just pointed out your hilarious contradiction. There is NO difference. Would I turn Casillas down if we had the chance to sign him? Definitely not. He is a world class keeper and we shouldn't turn down players of his caliber. Case in point with Fabregas, who unlike Casillas IS available.
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OK you don't get the difference, I will explain it anyway, whether it gets in your thick head is a different matter.

Signing Fabregas will mean the way Arsenal play will have to change a little so the team will not have the balance it needs. Ramsey is now the main man at Arsenal, he's not that 19 year old kid who was happy to play second fiddle to Fabregas. Wilshere is coming back to form slowly, signing Fabregas will limit his game time. Why go back when we have the future? Fabregas himself has stated those two have the potential to be better than him.

Just look at Barcelona. No doubt Fabregas is good enough to be at the levels of their midfield, but he's disrupted the whole rythm. Re-signing has the potential to do the same. Also Ozil being the main play maker, he needs to be given a second season.

posted on 9/6/14

Mez, yeah of course. But at the same time I'm thinking about the Fabregas thing where I think he's getting a lot more adoration than he should do and Wenger is being mugged off.

When you should consider that OZIL is in your facking team. He's so class. I just find it odd when you've got a player as class in the same position and your legendary manager is getting mugged off for a legendary player.

Excuse me if I'm talking rubbish. That's just how I feel.

posted on 9/6/14

comment by #AnyoneButGiroud (U18355)
posted 54 seconds ago
"For me, pace is something that we require more than a player like Fabregas. When we lost our fast players, we struggled horrendously.

I'm also not sure that Ozil would be content with spending time on the bench. After all, that is why he left Real Madrid. He didn't want to fight for his place."

Yes we need pace up front, in wide positions we have Walcott, Ox and hopefully Gnabry will play a lot more next season, too. Ozil is quick and can play out wide. We don't have to bench him, he is a different type of player to Fabregas and could play alongside him.
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I'm really not sure about playing Ozil out wide. Suppose it would be better than having Cazorla out wide, but I don't like the thought of either to be honest. That's without even bringing Fabregas into the equation.

posted on 9/6/14

Ramsey Arteta
Theo Cesc Ozil
New striker

Tell me in which way Cesc will disrupt the 'balance' in the team? Cazorla was the main man before Ozil joined but Wenger was happy to put him out wide. Wilshere coming back into form? For how long? You'll be back on his back soon enough as you always are with him. World class one week, shít the next, and that's if he is even fit enough to play. We had Vieira and Gilberto at Arsenal when Cesc first broke into the team, why do people on here have the mindset that having class players in our team will disrupt the progress of younger players?

And I'm not even going to address your Barcelona theory Pathetic Just shows how little intelligence you have, you are the Adrian Chiles of ja606

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