Are this extremists elements banned in Israel or are try tolerated?
And btw SAF, if you took your head out of your a rse and read the previous comments you might get a different perspective.
Instead you and your pool rival slug it out and ignore any other comment.
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين
Well you obviously have an agenda against Israel and therefore see any action in a negative sense.
The Arab nations tried on several occasion to attack Israel and created an aggressive state.
You go on about Zionists, but majority of Israel only wanted a state to live in.
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Honestlivpool, seems obvious that you don't regard the assassination of a president that had played a major part in trying to bring peace as a big deal! You mention that because there are right wing parties in other countries this is fine!
And you still haven't answered for what reason they found that 1993 peace deal to be so unpalatable that why had to assassinate their president.
The fact this right wing group hasn't been outlawed is another matter...
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What?
Prominent figures have been assassinated by right wing elements in the past, so it's not I don't regard it as big deal.
My point is that Arab nations aggression only helped right wing movement sell their idea (which ultimately doesn't want a Palestinian state).
You cannot outlaw an elected political movement with members in parliament. You can only educate people on their ideology and slowly phase them out.
rejected because the concessions were all in favour of Hamas, who are a terrorist organisation recognized by most of the world.
Why would anyone want to favour terrorism?
.....................................
Because terrorism is simply a military tool which can back up a perfectly acceptable idea....
Mandela was a terrorist, a terrorist that everyone should support (or back in the day at least)
terrorism alone does not invalidate a cause!
____________________________
I've come across those..
And where did Jews cause any problem then? The British shaped the whole world. Created boundaries in places that virtually gave away people's lands and forced people to give up their lands and moves..
_______________________________
So interestingly you avoided the question there....
You claimed the Israeli state was only created because Jews immigrated to Palestine and the Palestinians didn't like it....
When I pointed out Israel creation was in the pipeline long before that you start going on about the British drawing borders back in the day and then mention Persia?!
There was a war with Israel because of Israel's creation which stole land of another people.
Israel was created because the Jews were victims of persecution in another continent (Europe)
I am failing to see why the creation of Israel was in any way the fault of the Palestinians or Arabs, it was going to be created and the Palestinians thrown off their land no matter what they did, is that fair?
Wouldn't that be a call to war in any country?
The only countries that would allow such a thing are ones that cannot hope to win any potential war!
comment by SAF_The_Legend 20 times #SupportMoyes (previously 7_The_Arab) (U5768)
posted 6 minutes ago
Get back in your cosy beds lads.
People are actually dying and you gumps are point scoring because you support hated rivals.
Oh the fu(king irony....tools.
_______________________
Why don't you get back to your nice warm bed and leave the people who actually care about people dying and injustice in the world to their conversation!
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Do you care about Israelis dying or just the Palestinians? That's your problem.
Israel are to blame for all the problems and Hamas are completely innocent
You cannot outlaw an elected political movement with members in parliament
------
What are your views on Hamas, an elected political movement?
You can rest assured that Israel will come out on top, its like brains over braun.
The Arab nations have lost plenty of respect around the world the last 20-30 years thanks largely to an idiot minority, that minority is destroying the Arab people.
.....................................................
Israels superior strength is based on is superior military (partially funded by the USA) and superior technology.... in fairness they have got a strong military tradition and some of the best special forces in the world as well...
But do you really think the Arab nations are going to stay so backwards militarily speaking forever...
Very optimistic of you!
...........................................
And btw SAF, if you took your head out of your a rse and read the previous comments you might get a different perspective.
Instead you and your pool rival slug it out and ignore any other comment.
............................................
Ohh come on then oh fountain of knowledge please share your wisdom with us
It may well be a call to war in 1947.
Its fecking 2014 now though, two generations later, they cannot win, but like a petulant child fighting his big brother, they continue to poke away vowing never to surrender.
Nothing to even surrender too, just stop the terrorism and slowly but surely the wrongs can be righted.
As for extremists, its the world we live in, if we try to suppress them like the USA and partners did with Afghanistan and Iraq we are bad, if we ignore it, then look what happens.
Its a lose lose.
comment by SAF_The_Legend 20 times #SupportMoyes (previously 7_The_Arab) (U5768)
posted 1 minute ago
rejected because the concessions were all in favour of Hamas, who are a terrorist organisation recognized by most of the world.
Why would anyone want to favour terrorism?
.....................................
Because terrorism is simply a military tool which can back up a perfectly acceptable idea....
Mandela was a terrorist, a terrorist that everyone should support (or back in the day at least)
terrorism alone does not invalidate a cause!
____________________________
I've come across those..
And where did Jews cause any problem then? The British shaped the whole world. Created boundaries in places that virtually gave away people's lands and forced people to give up their lands and moves..
_______________________________
So interestingly you avoided the question there....
You claimed the Israeli state was only created because Jews immigrated to Palestine and the Palestinians didn't like it....
When I pointed out Israel creation was in the pipeline long before that you start going on about the British drawing borders back in the day and then mention Persia?!
There was a war with Israel because of Israel's creation which stole land of another people.
Israel was created because the Jews were victims of persecution in another continent (Europe)
I am failing to see why the creation of Israel was in any way the fault of the Palestinians or Arabs, it was going to be created and the Palestinians thrown off their land no matter what they did, is that fair?
Wouldn't that be a call to war in any country?
The only countries that would allow such a thing are ones that cannot hope to win any potential war!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My point is that many people have been thrown off their land in the process of creating another state. Where were the Jewish supposed to go?
Israel are to blame for all the problems and Hamas are completely innocent
-------
Hamas are a product of the failed peace process, aggressive Israeli settlement building and the suppression of the Palestinian people.
If there was peace there would be no Hamas.
Killing civilians created more disaffection which in turn created more anger frustration and death.
My point is that many people have been thrown off their land in the process of creating another state.
-------
Israeli zionists attacked the British to further their own aims.
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 3 minutes ago
You cannot outlaw an elected political movement with members in parliament
------
What are your views on Hamas, an elected political movement?
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Removed by its people or eliminated if they continue carrying out hate driven attack on Israel.. Notice the difference.
Out of interest, i have yet to see you criticise Hamas for killing civilians in terrorist attacks?
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
Israel are to blame for all the problems and Hamas are completely innocent
-------
Hamas are a product of the failed peace process, aggressive Israeli settlement building and the suppression of the Palestinian people.
If there was peace there would be no Hamas.
Killing civilians created more disaffection which in turn created more anger frustration and death.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And Israel is a product of Arab nations' aggression and violence. If they accepted Israel and Jewish people there'd be peace..
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 3 minutes ago
You cannot outlaw an elected political movement with members in parliament
------
What are your views on Hamas, an elected political movement?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Removed by its people or eliminated if they continue carrying out hate driven attack on Israel.. Notice the difference.
----------
Israeli right wing elements carried out a hate driven attack on Israels own president.
Like you've said they've managed to get re-elected to have seats in the Knesset.
If Hamas should be outlawed so should those right wing elements in Israel. Right?
Do you care about Israelis dying or just the Palestinians? That's your problem.
Israel are to blame for all the problems and Hamas are completely innocent
...................................................
I care for all deaths no innocent civilian should die, don't even think soldiers should go off and die...
I think of Israel much like apartheid South Africa, it is a terrible regime, its wrong, it carry outs evil acts, that doesn't mean every white South African is evil or deserves to die but I could support terrorist actions against them as quite simply it was the only way to achieve current South Africa.
Israel is, much like the government in Apartheid South Africa the one with all the power in this situation so it is up to them to sort it out.
They Fluked it Cinci, the Jews knew what they were at.
comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)
posted 1 minute ago
Out of interest, i have yet to see you criticise Hamas for killing civilians in terrorist attacks?
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Exactly. They all criticise Israel and don't give a sh..t about attacks on Israel by Hamas and other terrorist groups.
Part of the reason for the problem IMO.
And Israel is a product of Arab nations' aggression and violence. If they accepted Israel and Jewish people there'd be peace..
---------
No, Israel was the product of the Balfour declaration. But that wasn't enough and they attacked all and sundry including the British to get what they wanted.
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)
posted 1 minute ago
Out of interest, i have yet to see you criticise Hamas for killing civilians in terrorist attacks?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly. They all criticise Israel and don't give a sh..t about attacks on Israel by Hamas and other terrorist groups.
Part of the reason for the problem IMO.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No doubt supporting ISIS as well, and crying over Afghanistan which has shown how incapable it is as a nation since being left alone again.
comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
Out of interest, i have yet to see you criticise Hamas for killing civilians in terrorist attacks?
--------
I criticised it at the time, but the overwhelming majority of civilian deaths have been caused by Israeli munitions.
Stop watching Fox FFS cinci
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
Out of interest, i have yet to see you criticise Hamas for killing civilians in terrorist attacks?
--------
I criticised it at the time, but the overwhelming majority of civilian deaths have been caused by Israeli munitions.
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ahh, so its not civilians deaths that bother you, its the numbers.
Why ignore why this crisis came about, extremists of hamas abducted and killed 3 israeli boys to provoke a fight, and guess what, it worked.
My point is that many people have been thrown off their land in the process of creating another state. Where were the Jewish supposed to go?
.................................................
What the hell do you mean where were the Jewish supposed to go?
Where were the Gypsies the G.ays or the many other groups the N.azi's targetted supposed to go?
Gay people have a long history of persecution why didn't we go and give them their own country?!
Although if Israel really did have to be given their own country why not make it from someone who actually participated in their persecution like the Germans for example?
I now for a fact that Britain would goto war with any group that tried to build a country on our territory!
If the UN had said it should be, even if the Brazilians had been killing these people in their millions Britain would flat out refuse to give them some of our land to just make a country on (I am of course referring to the British mainland and not some colony or something like Palestine was)
comment by SAF_The_Legend 20 times #SupportMoyes (previously 7_The_Arab) (U5768)
posted 40 seconds ago
Do you care about Israelis dying or just the Palestinians? That's your problem.
Israel are to blame for all the problems and Hamas are completely innocent
...................................................
I care for all deaths no innocent civilian should die, don't even think soldiers should go off and die...
I think of Israel much like apartheid South Africa, it is a terrible regime, its wrong, it carry outs evil acts, that doesn't mean every white South African is evil or deserves to die but I could support terrorist actions against them as quite simply it was the only way to achieve current South Africa.
Israel is, much like the government in Apartheid South Africa the one with all the power in this situation so it is up to them to sort it out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Again comparing it to something that is completely non related. Apartheid South Africa was based on a false preset idea of superiority of certain race and would not let blacks have any rights regardless of anything.
I'm sure Israel would take peace if you offered it. They want their own state and recognition by its neighbours.
Benayoun is a Disgrace
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posted on 26/7/14
Are this extremists elements banned in Israel or are try tolerated?
posted on 26/7/14
And btw SAF, if you took your head out of your a rse and read the previous comments you might get a different perspective.
Instead you and your pool rival slug it out and ignore any other comment.
posted on 26/7/14
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين
Well you obviously have an agenda against Israel and therefore see any action in a negative sense.
The Arab nations tried on several occasion to attack Israel and created an aggressive state.
You go on about Zionists, but majority of Israel only wanted a state to live in.
---------
Honestlivpool, seems obvious that you don't regard the assassination of a president that had played a major part in trying to bring peace as a big deal! You mention that because there are right wing parties in other countries this is fine!
And you still haven't answered for what reason they found that 1993 peace deal to be so unpalatable that why had to assassinate their president.
The fact this right wing group hasn't been outlawed is another matter...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What?
Prominent figures have been assassinated by right wing elements in the past, so it's not I don't regard it as big deal.
My point is that Arab nations aggression only helped right wing movement sell their idea (which ultimately doesn't want a Palestinian state).
You cannot outlaw an elected political movement with members in parliament. You can only educate people on their ideology and slowly phase them out.
posted on 26/7/14
rejected because the concessions were all in favour of Hamas, who are a terrorist organisation recognized by most of the world.
Why would anyone want to favour terrorism?
.....................................
Because terrorism is simply a military tool which can back up a perfectly acceptable idea....
Mandela was a terrorist, a terrorist that everyone should support (or back in the day at least)
terrorism alone does not invalidate a cause!
____________________________
I've come across those..
And where did Jews cause any problem then? The British shaped the whole world. Created boundaries in places that virtually gave away people's lands and forced people to give up their lands and moves..
_______________________________
So interestingly you avoided the question there....
You claimed the Israeli state was only created because Jews immigrated to Palestine and the Palestinians didn't like it....
When I pointed out Israel creation was in the pipeline long before that you start going on about the British drawing borders back in the day and then mention Persia?!
There was a war with Israel because of Israel's creation which stole land of another people.
Israel was created because the Jews were victims of persecution in another continent (Europe)
I am failing to see why the creation of Israel was in any way the fault of the Palestinians or Arabs, it was going to be created and the Palestinians thrown off their land no matter what they did, is that fair?
Wouldn't that be a call to war in any country?
The only countries that would allow such a thing are ones that cannot hope to win any potential war!
posted on 26/7/14
comment by SAF_The_Legend 20 times #SupportMoyes (previously 7_The_Arab) (U5768)
posted 6 minutes ago
Get back in your cosy beds lads.
People are actually dying and you gumps are point scoring because you support hated rivals.
Oh the fu(king irony....tools.
_______________________
Why don't you get back to your nice warm bed and leave the people who actually care about people dying and injustice in the world to their conversation!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you care about Israelis dying or just the Palestinians? That's your problem.
Israel are to blame for all the problems and Hamas are completely innocent
posted on 26/7/14
You cannot outlaw an elected political movement with members in parliament
------
What are your views on Hamas, an elected political movement?
posted on 26/7/14
You can rest assured that Israel will come out on top, its like brains over braun.
The Arab nations have lost plenty of respect around the world the last 20-30 years thanks largely to an idiot minority, that minority is destroying the Arab people.
.....................................................
Israels superior strength is based on is superior military (partially funded by the USA) and superior technology.... in fairness they have got a strong military tradition and some of the best special forces in the world as well...
But do you really think the Arab nations are going to stay so backwards militarily speaking forever...
Very optimistic of you!
...........................................
And btw SAF, if you took your head out of your a rse and read the previous comments you might get a different perspective.
Instead you and your pool rival slug it out and ignore any other comment.
............................................
Ohh come on then oh fountain of knowledge please share your wisdom with us
posted on 26/7/14
It may well be a call to war in 1947.
Its fecking 2014 now though, two generations later, they cannot win, but like a petulant child fighting his big brother, they continue to poke away vowing never to surrender.
Nothing to even surrender too, just stop the terrorism and slowly but surely the wrongs can be righted.
As for extremists, its the world we live in, if we try to suppress them like the USA and partners did with Afghanistan and Iraq we are bad, if we ignore it, then look what happens.
Its a lose lose.
posted on 26/7/14
comment by SAF_The_Legend 20 times #SupportMoyes (previously 7_The_Arab) (U5768)
posted 1 minute ago
rejected because the concessions were all in favour of Hamas, who are a terrorist organisation recognized by most of the world.
Why would anyone want to favour terrorism?
.....................................
Because terrorism is simply a military tool which can back up a perfectly acceptable idea....
Mandela was a terrorist, a terrorist that everyone should support (or back in the day at least)
terrorism alone does not invalidate a cause!
____________________________
I've come across those..
And where did Jews cause any problem then? The British shaped the whole world. Created boundaries in places that virtually gave away people's lands and forced people to give up their lands and moves..
_______________________________
So interestingly you avoided the question there....
You claimed the Israeli state was only created because Jews immigrated to Palestine and the Palestinians didn't like it....
When I pointed out Israel creation was in the pipeline long before that you start going on about the British drawing borders back in the day and then mention Persia?!
There was a war with Israel because of Israel's creation which stole land of another people.
Israel was created because the Jews were victims of persecution in another continent (Europe)
I am failing to see why the creation of Israel was in any way the fault of the Palestinians or Arabs, it was going to be created and the Palestinians thrown off their land no matter what they did, is that fair?
Wouldn't that be a call to war in any country?
The only countries that would allow such a thing are ones that cannot hope to win any potential war!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My point is that many people have been thrown off their land in the process of creating another state. Where were the Jewish supposed to go?
posted on 26/7/14
Israel are to blame for all the problems and Hamas are completely innocent
-------
Hamas are a product of the failed peace process, aggressive Israeli settlement building and the suppression of the Palestinian people.
If there was peace there would be no Hamas.
Killing civilians created more disaffection which in turn created more anger frustration and death.
posted on 26/7/14
My point is that many people have been thrown off their land in the process of creating another state.
-------
Israeli zionists attacked the British to further their own aims.
posted on 26/7/14
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 3 minutes ago
You cannot outlaw an elected political movement with members in parliament
------
What are your views on Hamas, an elected political movement?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Removed by its people or eliminated if they continue carrying out hate driven attack on Israel.. Notice the difference.
posted on 26/7/14
Out of interest, i have yet to see you criticise Hamas for killing civilians in terrorist attacks?
posted on 26/7/14
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
Israel are to blame for all the problems and Hamas are completely innocent
-------
Hamas are a product of the failed peace process, aggressive Israeli settlement building and the suppression of the Palestinian people.
If there was peace there would be no Hamas.
Killing civilians created more disaffection which in turn created more anger frustration and death.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And Israel is a product of Arab nations' aggression and violence. If they accepted Israel and Jewish people there'd be peace..
posted on 26/7/14
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 3 minutes ago
You cannot outlaw an elected political movement with members in parliament
------
What are your views on Hamas, an elected political movement?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Removed by its people or eliminated if they continue carrying out hate driven attack on Israel.. Notice the difference.
----------
Israeli right wing elements carried out a hate driven attack on Israels own president.
Like you've said they've managed to get re-elected to have seats in the Knesset.
If Hamas should be outlawed so should those right wing elements in Israel. Right?
posted on 26/7/14
Do you care about Israelis dying or just the Palestinians? That's your problem.
Israel are to blame for all the problems and Hamas are completely innocent
...................................................
I care for all deaths no innocent civilian should die, don't even think soldiers should go off and die...
I think of Israel much like apartheid South Africa, it is a terrible regime, its wrong, it carry outs evil acts, that doesn't mean every white South African is evil or deserves to die but I could support terrorist actions against them as quite simply it was the only way to achieve current South Africa.
Israel is, much like the government in Apartheid South Africa the one with all the power in this situation so it is up to them to sort it out.
posted on 26/7/14
They Fluked it Cinci, the Jews knew what they were at.
posted on 26/7/14
comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)
posted 1 minute ago
Out of interest, i have yet to see you criticise Hamas for killing civilians in terrorist attacks?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly. They all criticise Israel and don't give a sh..t about attacks on Israel by Hamas and other terrorist groups.
Part of the reason for the problem IMO.
posted on 26/7/14
And Israel is a product of Arab nations' aggression and violence. If they accepted Israel and Jewish people there'd be peace..
---------
No, Israel was the product of the Balfour declaration. But that wasn't enough and they attacked all and sundry including the British to get what they wanted.
posted on 26/7/14
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)
posted 1 minute ago
Out of interest, i have yet to see you criticise Hamas for killing civilians in terrorist attacks?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly. They all criticise Israel and don't give a sh..t about attacks on Israel by Hamas and other terrorist groups.
Part of the reason for the problem IMO.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No doubt supporting ISIS as well, and crying over Afghanistan which has shown how incapable it is as a nation since being left alone again.
posted on 26/7/14
comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
Out of interest, i have yet to see you criticise Hamas for killing civilians in terrorist attacks?
--------
I criticised it at the time, but the overwhelming majority of civilian deaths have been caused by Israeli munitions.
posted on 26/7/14
Stop watching Fox FFS cinci
posted on 26/7/14
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
Out of interest, i have yet to see you criticise Hamas for killing civilians in terrorist attacks?
--------
I criticised it at the time, but the overwhelming majority of civilian deaths have been caused by Israeli munitions.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ahh, so its not civilians deaths that bother you, its the numbers.
Why ignore why this crisis came about, extremists of hamas abducted and killed 3 israeli boys to provoke a fight, and guess what, it worked.
posted on 26/7/14
My point is that many people have been thrown off their land in the process of creating another state. Where were the Jewish supposed to go?
.................................................
What the hell do you mean where were the Jewish supposed to go?
Where were the Gypsies the G.ays or the many other groups the N.azi's targetted supposed to go?
Gay people have a long history of persecution why didn't we go and give them their own country?!
Although if Israel really did have to be given their own country why not make it from someone who actually participated in their persecution like the Germans for example?
I now for a fact that Britain would goto war with any group that tried to build a country on our territory!
If the UN had said it should be, even if the Brazilians had been killing these people in their millions Britain would flat out refuse to give them some of our land to just make a country on (I am of course referring to the British mainland and not some colony or something like Palestine was)
posted on 26/7/14
comment by SAF_The_Legend 20 times #SupportMoyes (previously 7_The_Arab) (U5768)
posted 40 seconds ago
Do you care about Israelis dying or just the Palestinians? That's your problem.
Israel are to blame for all the problems and Hamas are completely innocent
...................................................
I care for all deaths no innocent civilian should die, don't even think soldiers should go off and die...
I think of Israel much like apartheid South Africa, it is a terrible regime, its wrong, it carry outs evil acts, that doesn't mean every white South African is evil or deserves to die but I could support terrorist actions against them as quite simply it was the only way to achieve current South Africa.
Israel is, much like the government in Apartheid South Africa the one with all the power in this situation so it is up to them to sort it out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Again comparing it to something that is completely non related. Apartheid South Africa was based on a false preset idea of superiority of certain race and would not let blacks have any rights regardless of anything.
I'm sure Israel would take peace if you offered it. They want their own state and recognition by its neighbours.
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