How the hell can the UN just give a country away?
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They didn't just give a country away. There was a high number of Jewish in the area which the Palestinians didn't like and it was only right to separate the two.
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by alloll ليفرپول - Free Gaza فلسطين (U18537)
posted 5 minutes ago
Honestlivpool don't embarras yourself more
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He can't help himself..
Can't even answer why the right wing elements in Israel had to assassinate the president
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Well I've given you my answer and now you result fo insult. Good debating skills
Maybe . Was right and closed it to comments because you muckers are going around in circles at this stage and not a clue what it really going on over there and the how's and the why's are like A rse holes, everyone has one.
You are all nice and cosy in your houses or whatever now with traffic as the most loud noise outside.
Catch a grip,that you haven't a clue what some people are really going through and be thankful your not.
Get off the high horse off an argument you no F all about in reality.
He can't help himself..
Can't even answer why the right wing elements in Israel had to assassinate the president
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Well I've given you my answer and now you result fo insult. Good debating skills
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Where's the insult? It's patently obvious you cannot help yourself.
But okay let's give it a shot... For what reason, maybe ideological did the right wing Israelis assassinate their own president to scupper the peace process of 1993?
Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين
Well you obviously have an agenda against Israel and therefore see any action in a negative sense.
The Arab nations tried on several occasion to attack Israel and created an aggressive state.
You go on about Zionists, but majority of Israel only wanted a state to live in.
They didn't just give a country away. There was a high number of Jewish in the area which the Palestinians didn't like and it was only right to separate the two.
................................................
WTF?
So if enough Jews moved to England and there were problems between the Jews and the native population the natural response would be to give them a bit of england?!
The UN gave the country away because Jewish people had suffered a lot of persecution in Europe... the large numbers of Jews moved to Palestine because the idea for the Israeli state had already been put into motion.
The British (who owned the area) mentioned previous to the mass immigration that they supported the idea of the Israeli state.
Serious question, have you heard of the Balfour Declaration?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
You need to read up on it.
Now can you tell me what crimes the Palestinians or the other Arab nations had committed at this point to deserve this?
Or how about the man considered the modern founder of Zionism?
Theodor Herzl?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Herzl
__________________________
Beginning in late 1895, Herzl wrote Der Judenstaat (The Jewish State). The small book was initially published February 14, 1896, in Leipzig, Germany, and Vienna, Austria, by M. Breitenstein's Verlags-Buchhandlung. It is subtitled "Versuch einer modernen Lösung der Judenfrage", ("Proposal of a modern solution for the Jewish question". Der Judenstaat proposed the structure and beliefs of what political Zionism was.[31]
Herzl's solution was the creation of a Jewish state. In the book he outlined his reasoning for the need to reestablish the historic Jewish state.
"Israel is our unforgettable historic homeland ..."
______________________________
What had the Palestinians and other Arabs done at this point?
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين
Well you obviously have an agenda against Israel and therefore see any action in a negative sense.
The Arab nations tried on several occasion to attack Israel and created an aggressive state.
You go on about Zionists, but majority of Israel only wanted a state to live in.
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Honestlivpool, seems obvious that you don't regard the assassination of a president that had played a major part in trying to bring peace as a big deal! You mention that because there are right wing parties in other countries this is fine!
And you still haven't answered for what reason they found that 1993 peace deal to be so unpalatable that why had to assassinate their president.
The fact this right wing group hasn't been outlawed is another matter...
12 hour cease fire agreed for humanitarian reasons.
Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين
Well you obviously have an agenda against Israel and therefore see any action in a negative sense.
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What positive viewpoint is there to seeing a nations president assassinated because he agreed to a peace process?
Are you seriously saying that was a positive point?
comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)
posted 38 seconds ago
12 hour cease fire agreed for humanitarian reasons.
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Yeah but the week long ceasefire proposal forwarded by America was rejected in favour of half a day.
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 46 seconds ago
Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين
Well you obviously have an agenda against Israel and therefore see any action in a negative sense.
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What positive viewpoint is there to seeing a nations president assassinated because he agreed to a peace process?
Are you seriously saying that was a positive point?
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you keep banging this drum, the answer is simple, Israel has extremists as well.
That has nothing to do with why this fighting began, it began because Hamas killed 3 israelis hiking home.
The two suspects, Hamas 'soldiers' went straight into hiding, Hamas leaders have acknowledged it is highly likely they were the guilty party.
Get back in your cosy beds lads.
People are actually dying and you gumps are point scoring because you support hated rivals.
Oh the fu(king irony....tools.
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)
posted 38 seconds ago
12 hour cease fire agreed for humanitarian reasons.
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Yeah but the week long ceasefire proposal forwarded by America was rejected in favour of half a day.
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rejected because the concessions were all in favour of Hamas, who are a terrorist organisation recognized by most of the world.
Why would anyone want to favour terrorism?
Incidently, the peace agreement put together by the USA who allegedly hate Hamas actually favoured Hamas.
TBH peace is majorly in the interest of the Israeli's in the long term anyway!
For the moment the small consequences they suffer as part of their conflict are seen as worth it in terms of the extra territory they control and their continual settlement building and control of most of the resources..
In the long term however the Arab nations aren't going to stay backwards (in terms of military strength) forever and their American support which was rock solid for the longest time does seem to (very very slowly) be fading away... the Israeli's currently enjoying the spoils of war could be sowing the seeds for their demise.
comment by SAF_The_Legend 20 times #SupportMoyes (previously 7_The_Arab) (U5768)
posted 41 seconds ago
They didn't just give a country away. There was a high number of Jewish in the area which the Palestinians didn't like and it was only right to separate the two.
................................................
WTF?
So if enough Jews moved to England and there were problems between the Jews and the native population the natural response would be to give them a bit of england?!
The UN gave the country away because Jewish people had suffered a lot of persecution in Europe... the large numbers of Jews moved to Palestine because the idea for the Israeli state had already been put into motion.
The British (who owned the area) mentioned previous to the mass immigration that they supported the idea of the Israeli state.
Serious question, have you heard of the Balfour Declaration?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
You need to read up on it.
Now can you tell me what crimes the Palestinians or the other Arab nations had committed at this point to deserve this?
Or how about the man considered the modern founder of Zionism?
Theodor Herzl?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Herzl
__________________________
Beginning in late 1895, Herzl wrote Der Judenstaat (The Jewish State). The small book was initially published February 14, 1896, in Leipzig, Germany, and Vienna, Austria, by M. Breitenstein's Verlags-Buchhandlung. It is subtitled "Versuch einer modernen Lösung der Judenfrage", ("Proposal of a modern solution for the Jewish question". Der Judenstaat proposed the structure and beliefs of what political Zionism was.[31]
Herzl's solution was the creation of a Jewish state. In the book he outlined his reasoning for the need to reestablish the historic Jewish state.
"Israel is our unforgettable historic homeland ..."
______________________________
What had the Palestinians and other Arabs done at this point?
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I've come across those..
And where did Jews cause any problem then? The British shaped the whole world. Created boundaries in places that virtually gave away people's lands and forced people to give up their lands and moves..
We could also go even further back to the Persian rule..
Get back in your cosy beds lads.
People are actually dying and you gumps are point scoring because you support hated rivals.
Oh the fu(king irony....tools.
_______________________
Why don't you get back to your nice warm bed and leave the people who actually care about people dying and injustice in the world to their conversation!
you keep banging this drum, the answer is simple, Israel has extremists as well.
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What do those extremists want so badly that they had to assassinate their president?
Put it this way, it's not peace!
Has the Israeli government banned this group? Or does it tolerate them?
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That has nothing to do with why this fighting began,
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If that peace process was implemented, there would have been peace along a two state solution. That leave deal was agreed in 1993, 20 years ago. A whole generation would have grown up knowing peace.
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comment by SAF_The_Legend 20 times #SupportMoyes (previously 7_The_Arab) (U5768)
posted 17 seconds ago
TBH peace is majorly in the interest of the Israeli's in the long term anyway!
For the moment the small consequences they suffer as part of their conflict are seen as worth it in terms of the extra territory they control and their continual settlement building and control of most of the resources..
In the long term however the Arab nations aren't going to stay backwards (in terms of military strength) forever and their American support which was rock solid for the longest time does seem to (very very slowly) be fading away... the Israeli's currently enjoying the spoils of war could be sowing the seeds for their demise.
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You can rest assured that Israel will come out on top, its like brains over braun.
The Arab nations have lost plenty of respect around the world the last 20-30 years thanks largely to an idiot minority, that minority is destroying the Arab people.
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^that (peace) deal - not leave
comment by SAF_The_Legend 20 times #SupportMoyes (previously 7_The_Arab) (U5768)
posted 41 seconds ago
Get back in your cosy beds lads.
People are actually dying and you gumps are point scoring because you support hated rivals.
Oh the fu(king irony....tools.
_______________________
Why don't you get back to your nice warm bed and leave the people who actually care about people dying and injustice in the world to their conversation!
Enough said, what's the the criteria for caring?
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 58 seconds ago
you keep banging this drum, the answer is simple, Israel has extremists as well.
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What do those extremists want so badly that they had to assassinate their president?
Put it this way, it's not peace!
Has the Israeli government banned this group? Or does it tolerate them?
------
That has nothing to do with why this fighting began,
------
If that peace process was implemented, there would have been peace along a two state solution. That leave deal was agreed in 1993, 20 years ago. A whole generation would have grown up knowing peace.
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And i agree, but we have extremists to thank for its downfall, as we have extremists to blame for this fight now.
Benayoun is a Disgrace
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posted on 26/7/14
How the hell can the UN just give a country away?
=======================================
They didn't just give a country away. There was a high number of Jewish in the area which the Palestinians didn't like and it was only right to separate the two.
posted on 26/7/14
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by alloll ليفرپول - Free Gaza فلسطين (U18537)
posted 5 minutes ago
Honestlivpool don't embarras yourself more
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He can't help himself..
Can't even answer why the right wing elements in Israel had to assassinate the president
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well I've given you my answer and now you result fo insult. Good debating skills
posted on 26/7/14
Maybe . Was right and closed it to comments because you muckers are going around in circles at this stage and not a clue what it really going on over there and the how's and the why's are like A rse holes, everyone has one.
You are all nice and cosy in your houses or whatever now with traffic as the most loud noise outside.
Catch a grip,that you haven't a clue what some people are really going through and be thankful your not.
Get off the high horse off an argument you no F all about in reality.
posted on 26/7/14
He can't help himself..
Can't even answer why the right wing elements in Israel had to assassinate the president
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well I've given you my answer and now you result fo insult. Good debating skills
---------
Where's the insult? It's patently obvious you cannot help yourself.
But okay let's give it a shot... For what reason, maybe ideological did the right wing Israelis assassinate their own president to scupper the peace process of 1993?
posted on 26/7/14
Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين
Well you obviously have an agenda against Israel and therefore see any action in a negative sense.
The Arab nations tried on several occasion to attack Israel and created an aggressive state.
You go on about Zionists, but majority of Israel only wanted a state to live in.
posted on 26/7/14
They didn't just give a country away. There was a high number of Jewish in the area which the Palestinians didn't like and it was only right to separate the two.
................................................
WTF?
So if enough Jews moved to England and there were problems between the Jews and the native population the natural response would be to give them a bit of england?!
The UN gave the country away because Jewish people had suffered a lot of persecution in Europe... the large numbers of Jews moved to Palestine because the idea for the Israeli state had already been put into motion.
The British (who owned the area) mentioned previous to the mass immigration that they supported the idea of the Israeli state.
Serious question, have you heard of the Balfour Declaration?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
You need to read up on it.
Now can you tell me what crimes the Palestinians or the other Arab nations had committed at this point to deserve this?
Or how about the man considered the modern founder of Zionism?
Theodor Herzl?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Herzl
__________________________
Beginning in late 1895, Herzl wrote Der Judenstaat (The Jewish State). The small book was initially published February 14, 1896, in Leipzig, Germany, and Vienna, Austria, by M. Breitenstein's Verlags-Buchhandlung. It is subtitled "Versuch einer modernen Lösung der Judenfrage", ("Proposal of a modern solution for the Jewish question". Der Judenstaat proposed the structure and beliefs of what political Zionism was.[31]
Herzl's solution was the creation of a Jewish state. In the book he outlined his reasoning for the need to reestablish the historic Jewish state.
"Israel is our unforgettable historic homeland ..."
______________________________
What had the Palestinians and other Arabs done at this point?
posted on 26/7/14
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين
Well you obviously have an agenda against Israel and therefore see any action in a negative sense.
The Arab nations tried on several occasion to attack Israel and created an aggressive state.
You go on about Zionists, but majority of Israel only wanted a state to live in.
---------
Honestlivpool, seems obvious that you don't regard the assassination of a president that had played a major part in trying to bring peace as a big deal! You mention that because there are right wing parties in other countries this is fine!
And you still haven't answered for what reason they found that 1993 peace deal to be so unpalatable that why had to assassinate their president.
The fact this right wing group hasn't been outlawed is another matter...
posted on 26/7/14
12 hour cease fire agreed for humanitarian reasons.
posted on 26/7/14
Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين
Well you obviously have an agenda against Israel and therefore see any action in a negative sense.
-------
What positive viewpoint is there to seeing a nations president assassinated because he agreed to a peace process?
Are you seriously saying that was a positive point?
posted on 26/7/14
comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)
posted 38 seconds ago
12 hour cease fire agreed for humanitarian reasons.
--------
Yeah but the week long ceasefire proposal forwarded by America was rejected in favour of half a day.
posted on 26/7/14
^ rejected by Israel
posted on 26/7/14
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 46 seconds ago
Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين
Well you obviously have an agenda against Israel and therefore see any action in a negative sense.
-------
What positive viewpoint is there to seeing a nations president assassinated because he agreed to a peace process?
Are you seriously saying that was a positive point?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
you keep banging this drum, the answer is simple, Israel has extremists as well.
That has nothing to do with why this fighting began, it began because Hamas killed 3 israelis hiking home.
The two suspects, Hamas 'soldiers' went straight into hiding, Hamas leaders have acknowledged it is highly likely they were the guilty party.
posted on 26/7/14
Get back in your cosy beds lads.
People are actually dying and you gumps are point scoring because you support hated rivals.
Oh the fu(king irony....tools.
posted on 26/7/14
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)
posted 38 seconds ago
12 hour cease fire agreed for humanitarian reasons.
--------
Yeah but the week long ceasefire proposal forwarded by America was rejected in favour of half a day.
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rejected because the concessions were all in favour of Hamas, who are a terrorist organisation recognized by most of the world.
Why would anyone want to favour terrorism?
posted on 26/7/14
Incidently, the peace agreement put together by the USA who allegedly hate Hamas actually favoured Hamas.
posted on 26/7/14
TBH peace is majorly in the interest of the Israeli's in the long term anyway!
For the moment the small consequences they suffer as part of their conflict are seen as worth it in terms of the extra territory they control and their continual settlement building and control of most of the resources..
In the long term however the Arab nations aren't going to stay backwards (in terms of military strength) forever and their American support which was rock solid for the longest time does seem to (very very slowly) be fading away... the Israeli's currently enjoying the spoils of war could be sowing the seeds for their demise.
posted on 26/7/14
comment by SAF_The_Legend 20 times #SupportMoyes (previously 7_The_Arab) (U5768)
posted 41 seconds ago
They didn't just give a country away. There was a high number of Jewish in the area which the Palestinians didn't like and it was only right to separate the two.
................................................
WTF?
So if enough Jews moved to England and there were problems between the Jews and the native population the natural response would be to give them a bit of england?!
The UN gave the country away because Jewish people had suffered a lot of persecution in Europe... the large numbers of Jews moved to Palestine because the idea for the Israeli state had already been put into motion.
The British (who owned the area) mentioned previous to the mass immigration that they supported the idea of the Israeli state.
Serious question, have you heard of the Balfour Declaration?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
You need to read up on it.
Now can you tell me what crimes the Palestinians or the other Arab nations had committed at this point to deserve this?
Or how about the man considered the modern founder of Zionism?
Theodor Herzl?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Herzl
__________________________
Beginning in late 1895, Herzl wrote Der Judenstaat (The Jewish State). The small book was initially published February 14, 1896, in Leipzig, Germany, and Vienna, Austria, by M. Breitenstein's Verlags-Buchhandlung. It is subtitled "Versuch einer modernen Lösung der Judenfrage", ("Proposal of a modern solution for the Jewish question". Der Judenstaat proposed the structure and beliefs of what political Zionism was.[31]
Herzl's solution was the creation of a Jewish state. In the book he outlined his reasoning for the need to reestablish the historic Jewish state.
"Israel is our unforgettable historic homeland ..."
______________________________
What had the Palestinians and other Arabs done at this point?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I've come across those..
And where did Jews cause any problem then? The British shaped the whole world. Created boundaries in places that virtually gave away people's lands and forced people to give up their lands and moves..
We could also go even further back to the Persian rule..
posted on 26/7/14
Get back in your cosy beds lads.
People are actually dying and you gumps are point scoring because you support hated rivals.
Oh the fu(king irony....tools.
_______________________
Why don't you get back to your nice warm bed and leave the people who actually care about people dying and injustice in the world to their conversation!
posted on 26/7/14
you keep banging this drum, the answer is simple, Israel has extremists as well.
------
What do those extremists want so badly that they had to assassinate their president?
Put it this way, it's not peace!
Has the Israeli government banned this group? Or does it tolerate them?
------
That has nothing to do with why this fighting began,
------
If that peace process was implemented, there would have been peace along a two state solution. That leave deal was agreed in 1993, 20 years ago. A whole generation would have grown up knowing peace.
posted on 26/7/14
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 26/7/14
comment by SAF_The_Legend 20 times #SupportMoyes (previously 7_The_Arab) (U5768)
posted 17 seconds ago
TBH peace is majorly in the interest of the Israeli's in the long term anyway!
For the moment the small consequences they suffer as part of their conflict are seen as worth it in terms of the extra territory they control and their continual settlement building and control of most of the resources..
In the long term however the Arab nations aren't going to stay backwards (in terms of military strength) forever and their American support which was rock solid for the longest time does seem to (very very slowly) be fading away... the Israeli's currently enjoying the spoils of war could be sowing the seeds for their demise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can rest assured that Israel will come out on top, its like brains over braun.
The Arab nations have lost plenty of respect around the world the last 20-30 years thanks largely to an idiot minority, that minority is destroying the Arab people.
posted on 26/7/14
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 26/7/14
^that (peace) deal - not leave
posted on 26/7/14
comment by SAF_The_Legend 20 times #SupportMoyes (previously 7_The_Arab) (U5768)
posted 41 seconds ago
Get back in your cosy beds lads.
People are actually dying and you gumps are point scoring because you support hated rivals.
Oh the fu(king irony....tools.
_______________________
Why don't you get back to your nice warm bed and leave the people who actually care about people dying and injustice in the world to their conversation!
Enough said, what's the the criteria for caring?
posted on 26/7/14
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 58 seconds ago
you keep banging this drum, the answer is simple, Israel has extremists as well.
------
What do those extremists want so badly that they had to assassinate their president?
Put it this way, it's not peace!
Has the Israeli government banned this group? Or does it tolerate them?
------
That has nothing to do with why this fighting began,
------
If that peace process was implemented, there would have been peace along a two state solution. That leave deal was agreed in 1993, 20 years ago. A whole generation would have grown up knowing peace.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And i agree, but we have extremists to thank for its downfall, as we have extremists to blame for this fight now.
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