"Surely they would have rated Rio, Terry and Cole... aside from Scholes that is..."
Yeah, just perhaps not as highly as they should have. Certainly a lot of Italians wouldn't even consider comparing them with the likes of Maldini, Cannavaro etc
"I would put Gerrard above Beckham IMO... though I do think Beckham can be a little underrated (in UK anyway) due to the insane levels of fame and press he received..."
Me too, again just what I've encountered around Europe.
Dunno about anyone else, but i am just glad we can now walk away from this thread in agreement that Gerrard isn't very good.
Seedorf = way overrated, not all that skillful or intelligent
Pirlo = Excellent but slower than Scholes
Gerrard & Lampard= World Class players in their prime but not on the same level as Scholes and Pirlo.
Therefore:
Scholes
Pirlo
Gerrard
Lampard
Seedorf
Seedorf = way overrated, not all that skillful or intelligent
Pirlo = Excellent but slower than Scholes
Gerrard & Lampard= World Class players in their prime but not on the same level as Scholes and Pirlo.
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That just ended this thread big stile boom 💣
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comment by Robbing_Hoody - Here, have some goals. You don't have to work for them. They're a gift. That's what we do now. (U6374)
posted 6 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)
posted 25 seconds ago
Gerrards a fecking footballer, no more no less.
Its a job, just like any other, the only difference is he gets paid a fortune.
When it comes to giving out awards for life achievement forgive me for turning to the doctors, surgeons, scientists, retirement home carers, biologists, police, military and so on
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Doesn't matter if they'll be remembered in the history books. They'll have done more good than Gerrard.
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Point being Elvis that I severely doubt the geeks writing slippy steve and other moronic attempts at play on words do any of those jobs now do they. That's the point. They're geeks being derogatory about people who have achieved far more. When was the last time you visited sick kids on hospital and gave them presents? Genuine question.
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Well not being one to boast but I give my time at Regional NHSBT events to raise blood and tissue donor awareness and also nationally for a donor awareness charity. Help raise funds, support others and help educate the population the need for and importance of blood and organ donation after having first hand experience.
I guess you could say I help change and save lives.........
But hey, Gerrard won a trophy for kickin a bag of wind and was player of the second half in a game once
Scholes was the most overrated player in the history of english football, perhaps even the world. We are talking prime here anyway. None of those to me are better than prime Gerrard. I'd take Lampard ahead of Scholes even.
Gerrard
Pirlo
Seedorf
Lampard
Scholes
^^^^Hahaha^^^^... That's some real funny stuff right there. But keep it up.
So much for Monday Blues! Keep the Jokes coming, cos this has put a big old smile on my face!
Putting Lampard an Gerrard in that list is an insult to the other 3 far superior midfielders.
Gerrard was not considered good enough to play in midfield by Benitez and Lampards claim to fame is scoring goals, not passing, controlling a game or creating chances
Mamba is just upset because gerrard has taken a slating and rightly so.
Mamba stop talking shît
Hey it could be worse.
I was speaking to a Liverpool fan on Saturday night who was trying to tell me Suarez was the best player in the world.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 30 minutes ago
Putting Lampard an Gerrard in that list is an insult to the other 3 far superior midfielders.
Gerrard was not considered good enough to play in midfield by Benitez and Lampards claim to fame is scoring goals, not passing, controlling a game or creating chances
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"claim to fame"
he scored goals that won his club titles his goal scoring from midfield will never be beaten. claim to fame what a joke
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comment by MonTheChels (U19797)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 30 minutes ago
Putting Lampard an Gerrard in that list is an insult to the other 3 far superior midfielders.
Gerrard was not considered good enough to play in midfield by Benitez and Lampards claim to fame is scoring goals, not passing, controlling a game or creating chances
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"claim to fame"
he scored goals that won his club titleshis goal scoring from midfield will never be beaten.claim to fame what a joke
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You clearly did not understand the point I was making
United fans always throw a fit if someone doesn't rate Scholes as much as they feel he should. Its a matter of opinion anyway. Scholes was very very good and he beats Gerrard at the longevity of his quality whereas Gerrard was a far more complete player to me. But prime Gerrard shitts over prime Scholes IMO.
comment by Greatteamswinit4times I'm dogmatic (U6008)
posted 5 minutes ago
Gerrard was not considered good enough to play in midfield by Benitez
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No, he was considered the best player we had at the time to play behind the striker. Worked out pretty well didn't it.
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Actually that is not true, he was shunted out wide as well so better people could play in midfield and eventually was put behind the striker because he was not as good in midfield
Gerrard was such a complete player that Benitez played him right midfield and then in the 10 role, where as Scholes regularly played in a title winning central midfield two.
Good to see the old myth coming out.
Anyone who writes this:
"Scholes was the most overrated player in the history of english football"
Will be someone that can never be reasoned with.
A truly ludicrous statement.
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comment by Greatteamswinit4times I'm dogmatic (U6008)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times I'm dogmatic (U6008)
posted 5 minutes ago
Gerrard was not considered good enough to play in midfield by Benitez
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No, he was considered the best player we had at the time to play behind the striker. Worked out pretty well didn't it.
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Actually that is not true, he was shunted out wide as well so better people could play in midfield and eventually was put behind the striker because he was not as good in midfield
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Shunted out wide? Think he played wide left about three times. Stop lying.
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He played wide right
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Greatteamswinit4times I'm dogmatic (U6008)
You might want to check your facts - he played wide right for most of one season.
Benitez did interviews about it.
Rafa is on record as stating that Gerrard's talents were wasted in CM at the time. He also said that he saw Gerrard playing further back in the future which is what happened. Moving Gerrard was designed to get the best out of a world class player and the team at large. Only an idiot would think otherwise. Having a world class player and not maximizing his ability is not something Rafa wanted to do.
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Mamba - Here's one for you to suck on - Real Sosobad (U1282) (U13041)
Would be interested to see those quotes you claim are on record.
I do remember Benitez telling us that Gerrard was moved to the right for the balance of the side.
Dress it up how you like; but you talk about Scholes not being a complete footballer, and then defend Gerrard being moved out to right midfield or into the 10 role.
It sounds ridiculous.
How can a player that's played right midfield and off the striker, for the balance of the team, claim to be a more complete player than the guy playing a central midfield two?
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posted on 28/7/14
"Surely they would have rated Rio, Terry and Cole... aside from Scholes that is..."
Yeah, just perhaps not as highly as they should have. Certainly a lot of Italians wouldn't even consider comparing them with the likes of Maldini, Cannavaro etc
"I would put Gerrard above Beckham IMO... though I do think Beckham can be a little underrated (in UK anyway) due to the insane levels of fame and press he received..."
Me too, again just what I've encountered around Europe.
posted on 28/7/14
Dunno about anyone else, but i am just glad we can now walk away from this thread in agreement that Gerrard isn't very good.
posted on 28/7/14
Seedorf = way overrated, not all that skillful or intelligent
Pirlo = Excellent but slower than Scholes
Gerrard & Lampard= World Class players in their prime but not on the same level as Scholes and Pirlo.
Therefore:
Scholes
Pirlo
Gerrard
Lampard
Seedorf
posted on 28/7/14
Omg at this ^^^^^^^^^^
posted on 28/7/14
Seedorf = way overrated, not all that skillful or intelligent
Pirlo = Excellent but slower than Scholes
Gerrard & Lampard= World Class players in their prime but not on the same level as Scholes and Pirlo.
------------------------
Again OMG at this ^^^^^^
That just ended this thread big stile boom 💣
posted on 28/7/14
Style 💣💣💣💣💣💣
posted on 28/7/14
comment by Robbing_Hoody - Here, have some goals. You don't have to work for them. They're a gift. That's what we do now. (U6374)
posted 6 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)
posted 25 seconds ago
Gerrards a fecking footballer, no more no less.
Its a job, just like any other, the only difference is he gets paid a fortune.
When it comes to giving out awards for life achievement forgive me for turning to the doctors, surgeons, scientists, retirement home carers, biologists, police, military and so on
-----------
Doesn't matter if they'll be remembered in the history books. They'll have done more good than Gerrard.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Point being Elvis that I severely doubt the geeks writing slippy steve and other moronic attempts at play on words do any of those jobs now do they. That's the point. They're geeks being derogatory about people who have achieved far more. When was the last time you visited sick kids on hospital and gave them presents? Genuine question.
=====
Well not being one to boast but I give my time at Regional NHSBT events to raise blood and tissue donor awareness and also nationally for a donor awareness charity. Help raise funds, support others and help educate the population the need for and importance of blood and organ donation after having first hand experience.
I guess you could say I help change and save lives.........
But hey, Gerrard won a trophy for kickin a bag of wind and was player of the second half in a game once
posted on 28/7/14
Scholes was the most overrated player in the history of english football, perhaps even the world. We are talking prime here anyway. None of those to me are better than prime Gerrard. I'd take Lampard ahead of Scholes even.
Gerrard
Pirlo
Seedorf
Lampard
Scholes
posted on 28/7/14
^^^^Hahaha^^^^... That's some real funny stuff right there. But keep it up.
So much for Monday Blues! Keep the Jokes coming, cos this has put a big old smile on my face!
posted on 28/7/14
Putting Lampard an Gerrard in that list is an insult to the other 3 far superior midfielders.
Gerrard was not considered good enough to play in midfield by Benitez and Lampards claim to fame is scoring goals, not passing, controlling a game or creating chances
posted on 28/7/14
Mamba is just upset because gerrard has taken a slating and rightly so.
Mamba stop talking shît
posted on 28/7/14
Hey it could be worse.
I was speaking to a Liverpool fan on Saturday night who was trying to tell me Suarez was the best player in the world.
posted on 28/7/14
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 30 minutes ago
Putting Lampard an Gerrard in that list is an insult to the other 3 far superior midfielders.
Gerrard was not considered good enough to play in midfield by Benitez and Lampards claim to fame is scoring goals, not passing, controlling a game or creating chances
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"claim to fame"
he scored goals that won his club titles his goal scoring from midfield will never be beaten. claim to fame what a joke
posted on 28/7/14
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posted on 28/7/14
comment by MonTheChels (U19797)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 30 minutes ago
Putting Lampard an Gerrard in that list is an insult to the other 3 far superior midfielders.
Gerrard was not considered good enough to play in midfield by Benitez and Lampards claim to fame is scoring goals, not passing, controlling a game or creating chances
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"claim to fame"
he scored goals that won his club titleshis goal scoring from midfield will never be beaten.claim to fame what a joke
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You clearly did not understand the point I was making
posted on 28/7/14
United fans always throw a fit if someone doesn't rate Scholes as much as they feel he should. Its a matter of opinion anyway. Scholes was very very good and he beats Gerrard at the longevity of his quality whereas Gerrard was a far more complete player to me. But prime Gerrard shitts over prime Scholes IMO.
posted on 28/7/14
comment by Greatteamswinit4times I'm dogmatic (U6008)
posted 5 minutes ago
Gerrard was not considered good enough to play in midfield by Benitez
------------------
No, he was considered the best player we had at the time to play behind the striker. Worked out pretty well didn't it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually that is not true, he was shunted out wide as well so better people could play in midfield and eventually was put behind the striker because he was not as good in midfield
posted on 28/7/14
Gerrard was such a complete player that Benitez played him right midfield and then in the 10 role, where as Scholes regularly played in a title winning central midfield two.
Good to see the old myth coming out.
Anyone who writes this:
"Scholes was the most overrated player in the history of english football"
Will be someone that can never be reasoned with.
A truly ludicrous statement.
posted on 28/7/14
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posted on 28/7/14
comment by Greatteamswinit4times I'm dogmatic (U6008)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times I'm dogmatic (U6008)
posted 5 minutes ago
Gerrard was not considered good enough to play in midfield by Benitez
------------------
No, he was considered the best player we had at the time to play behind the striker. Worked out pretty well didn't it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually that is not true, he was shunted out wide as well so better people could play in midfield and eventually was put behind the striker because he was not as good in midfield
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Shunted out wide? Think he played wide left about three times. Stop lying.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He played wide right
posted on 28/7/14
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posted on 28/7/14
Greatteamswinit4times I'm dogmatic (U6008)
You might want to check your facts - he played wide right for most of one season.
Benitez did interviews about it.
posted on 28/7/14
Rafa is on record as stating that Gerrard's talents were wasted in CM at the time. He also said that he saw Gerrard playing further back in the future which is what happened. Moving Gerrard was designed to get the best out of a world class player and the team at large. Only an idiot would think otherwise. Having a world class player and not maximizing his ability is not something Rafa wanted to do.
posted on 28/7/14
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posted on 28/7/14
Mamba - Here's one for you to suck on - Real Sosobad (U1282) (U13041)
Would be interested to see those quotes you claim are on record.
I do remember Benitez telling us that Gerrard was moved to the right for the balance of the side.
Dress it up how you like; but you talk about Scholes not being a complete footballer, and then defend Gerrard being moved out to right midfield or into the 10 role.
It sounds ridiculous.
How can a player that's played right midfield and off the striker, for the balance of the team, claim to be a more complete player than the guy playing a central midfield two?
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