comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 48 seconds ago
I don't believe any other defender in the Premier League apart from perhaps Kompany could do a better job for Arsenal than Koscielny.

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Terry, Cahill, Vertonghen, Shawcross, Brown, O'Shea all better than any of arsenals CB's.

That's without out me being biased by throwing in any of ours.
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Are you on the wind up? I'd take Terry over Mertesacker, but that is it.

Actually, I would take Vertonghen over Mertesacker as well.

AFL if you can't see how poor he was on that Immobile goal then I give up, because you're clearly ridiculously biased

Are you on the wind up?

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Of course I am on the wind up, you don't think I am taking an Arsenal fans comments on his defenders seriously, do you?

Saying that Brown and O'Shea are better at defending than your two CB's. They just don't have the pace any more.

I really have no idea why you clowns over rate your players so much, when all the available evidence tells you they are not all that much.

comment by Isle of Manc - Year of the Januzaj (U18323)
posted 36 seconds ago
AFL if you can't see how poor he was on that Immobile goal then I give up, because you're clearly ridiculously biased
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You need to give up because you're wrong, simple as. As I said, he could have forced him out wide, but that is it.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
Are you on the wind up?

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Of course I am on the wind up, you don't think I am taking an Arsenal fans comments on his defenders seriously, do you?

Saying that Brown and O'Shea are better at defending than your two CB's. They just don't have the pace any more.

I really have no idea why you clowns over rate your players so much, when all the available evidence tells you they are not all that much.
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To be honest, I shouldn't take other fans comments on Arsenal players seriously as they are so obviously affected by how Arsenal fans rate their players.

Of course I am on the wind up, you don't think I am taking an Arsenal fans comments on his defenders seriously, do you?
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You're right AFL, a striker who isn't known for his pace ran directly at Kos, beat him, and then put it in the back of the net. But koscielny was at no fault for it

Kos was all over the place for that goal. I don't know why you can't admit it.

Or was it Wenger and Arteta's fault?

I happen to think he's a good defender, by the way. But Arsenal fans have a blind spot when it comes to him.

For the last time, while Koscielny could have pushed him out wide, a failed chop gave Immobile the yard that he needed to score. He pulls off the chop, Koscielny likely comes away with the ball.

If Evans did that exact same thing you'd criticize him for it, and so would I. It's incredible that you can't see that

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You're such a moron.

Errm, Okay?

comment by Isle of Manc - Year of the Januzaj (U18323)
posted 3 minutes ago
If Evans did that exact same thing you'd criticize him for it, and so would I. It's incredible that you can't see that
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No, I wouldn't. Any defender would have been beaten by that bounce. I would criticise a defender for passing straight to the opposition in their own box though.

I'll be the first to admit that Koscielny has his faults, I explained them earlier in this thread. Immobile's goal, however, was a freak piece of luck.

I'm not even talking about the bounce. Koscielny' side of the pitch was a gaping hole when Immobile picked up the ball. Who knows what Kos was doing on the right side of the pitch 2 seconds before that. He should've covered his area but instead he let the striker drive 50 yards at him before beating him and scoring.

If that's not poor defending I don't know what is

Mourinho and his CBs probably had a great laugh at that goal

Freak piece of luck.

Has Cleverley been mentioned?

comment by Isle of Manc - Year of the Januzaj (U18323)
posted 10 minutes ago
I'm not even talking about the bounce. Koscielny' side of the pitch was a gaping hole when Immobile picked up the ball. Who knows what Kos was doing on the right side of the pitch 2 seconds before that. He should've covered his area but instead he let the striker drive 50 yards at him before beating him and scoring.

If that's not poor defending I don't know what is
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The question that anyone should be asking was where was Gibbs? He was too far forward, which left Koscielny with a ridiculous amount of ground to defend.

comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
Freak piece of luck.
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Yes, that's exactly what it was. Watch the goal again.

These kind of debates are tedious. We're just going round in circles here.

The question that anyone should be asking was where was Gibbs? He was too far forward, which left Koscielny with a ridiculous amount of ground to defend
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That was obvious, but any decent CB would cover that. Instead Koscielny wandered over to the right side of the pitch leaving absolutely nobody on his side. It looks even worse in the replays

Yeah I'm done, you'll never admit Koscielny didn't defend very well in these situations, and I have no idea why

I'll come back here in a week or two when another "freak piece of luck" happens