comment by Gillespie Road (U18361)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by New Year's Jay. (U16498)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Weare the famous THFC (U19211)
posted 30 minutes ago
Hey ched this girls whos very drunk just said you can join in



ohh great be right over .......... ,







Classy
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Not particularly classy, but not illegal, either.
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100% illegal. One of the many Category A crimes that could land you in HMP Belmarsh.
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Having séx with a drunk person?

So Oldham have now pulled out?

He's going to become like Yosser Hughes before long, going round to different clubs asking them to 'Gizza job'

If it's the case that any woman that is 3x the drink drive limit is incapable of giving consent, or if they don't remember doing so, Magaluf would be like Alcatraz

comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Gillespie Road (U18361)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by New Year's Jay. (U16498)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Weare the famous THFC (U19211)
posted 30 minutes ago
Hey ched this girls whos very drunk just said you can join in



ohh great be right over .......... ,







Classy
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Not particularly classy, but not illegal, either.
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100% illegal. One of the many Category A crimes that could land you in HMP Belmarsh.
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Having séx with a drunk person?
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Yes. The place is full of no-mark "Ched Evans'" who couldn't leverage their public personas into lighter sentences.

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It's only illegal if McDonald is lying and she at no point told Evans he could join in.

Given that the only people who say she consented are the defendants, and the prosecution doesn't know one way or the other whether she did, it all adds up to a murky case full of reasonable doubt

comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 44 seconds ago
If it's the case that any woman that is 3x the drink drive limit is incapable of giving consent, or if they don't remember doing so, Magaluf would be like Alcatraz
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Talking of the drink drive limit: If I was 3x the limit and decided to drive, could I absolve responsibility as I was too drunk?

Talking of the drink drive limit: If I was 3x the limit and decided to drive, could I absolve responsibility as I was too drunk?

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I can't remember whether I ran anyone over - therefore I didn't.

Oldham have been forced to pull out, not for footballing reasons, but when campaign groups target sponsors etc its always going to fall down

All I know is that even if he gets off on appeal, I will still be in doubt as to what happened. Nothing changes on my part.

Those that choose to simply condemn because of a jury's verdict , would have to completely change their opinion of it gets overturned.

comment by New Year's Jay. (U16498)
posted 1 minute ago
Talking of the drink drive limit: If I was 3x the limit and decided to drive, could I absolve responsibility as I was too drunk?

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I can't remember whether I ran anyone over - therefore I didn't.
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You don't even have to take it that far... "I was too drunk to make a reasonable decision, therefore it's not my fault" or "I don't remember deciding to drive"...

comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 43 seconds ago
All I know is that even if he gets off on appeal, I will still be in doubt as to what happened. Nothing changes on my part.

Those that choose to simply condemn because of a jury's verdict , would have to completely change their opinion of it gets overturned.


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This. I don't know (or care) either way, but it's the manner in which the conviction was made with no evidence that irks me.

Oldham and Evans both wanted the deal, outside influences with an agenda scuppered the deal

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comment by 🇬🇧 MARK.🇬🇧 (U1449)
posted 56 seconds ago
Oldham and Evans both wanted the deal, outside influences with an agenda scuppered the deal
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Moral of the story? Do not rape.

comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by New Year's Jay. (U16498)
posted 1 minute ago
Talking of the drink drive limit: If I was 3x the limit and decided to drive, could I absolve responsibility as I was too drunk?

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I can't remember whether I ran anyone over - therefore I didn't.
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You don't even have to take it that far... "I was too drunk to make a reasonable decision, therefore it's not my fault" or "I don't remember deciding to drive"...
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I don't think anybody is suggesting that the girl committed a crime.
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However, she is absolving herself from responsibility of her own actions

comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by New Year's Jay. (U16498)
posted 1 minute ago
Talking of the drink drive limit: If I was 3x the limit and decided to drive, could I absolve responsibility as I was too drunk?

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I can't remember whether I ran anyone over - therefore I didn't.
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You don't even have to take it that far... "I was too drunk to make a reasonable decision, therefore it's not my fault" or "I don't remember deciding to drive"...
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I don't think anybody is suggesting that the girl committed a crime.
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If she does remember what happened then surely she has committed perjury?

This is a good point ^^

You can't "prove" memory though, perhaps lie detector... can he request that?

I don't think a lie detector test stands up as admissabe evidence even in the USA.

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comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by New Year's Jay. (U16498)
posted 1 minute ago
Talking of the drink drive limit: If I was 3x the limit and decided to drive, could I absolve responsibility as I was too drunk?

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I can't remember whether I ran anyone over - therefore I didn't.
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You don't even have to take it that far... "I was too drunk to make a reasonable decision, therefore it's not my fault" or "I don't remember deciding to drive"...
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I don't think anybody is suggesting that the girl committed a crime.
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However, she is absolving herself from responsibility of her own actions
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What the prosecution argued was that she was in no fit state to consent.This is what the jury accepted.Evans didn't help his case by bringing along his brother and mate to film him through the window.
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Nobody disputes that he has the morals of a sewer rat but that's not a criminal offence.

What the prosecution argued was that she was in no fit state to consent.This is what the jury accepted.Evans didn't help his case by bringing along his brother and mate to film him through the window.

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Despite the evidence presented to the contrary? Seems a long shot to categorically say she was too drunk to consent given what we know...

You make it sound like he brought them along purely for that...

Personally, I don't go on about the case being prosecuted through 'flimsy evidence' on the back of the ChedEvans website.

But thats just me.

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