Bill, if you're definition of an original movie doesn't include an original story or script, then it's a definition that most people on this thread do not adhere to.

comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 4 seconds ago
compare that to GWH: a really clever janitor works in a university and he's cleverer than the really clever professor. wowwee. and more....the professor has had a touch life, and so has the janitor, but the prof teaches him some life lessons and gets him through. incredible. it's a story, but there's nothing special about it.
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It's an ORIGINAL story. Regardless of what you think of the quality
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well it isn't really, it's a story about someone being inspired by someone else, which is as old as the hills.

but regardless, do you not see the difference between a story and a clever story, or a story which requires innovative telling?

if you aren't prepared to see that there's more to developing an art, or taking an art in an innovative direction, than simply doing something which isn't exactly the same as something someone else has done, then you will continue to miss the point.
no film maker is going to be inspired to experiment or innovate by the plot or the execution of good will hunting. there's nothing creative about it at all.

that whut so grate about Bluey

hiw they creat deep n meaninfull art that take on the hole eggseperience of life within each 7 minit episode

it reelly is trans4mationull tv

comment by Bill. (U23088)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 4 seconds ago
compare that to GWH: a really clever janitor works in a university and he's cleverer than the really clever professor. wowwee. and more....the professor has had a touch life, and so has the janitor, but the prof teaches him some life lessons and gets him through. incredible. it's a story, but there's nothing special about it.
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It's an ORIGINAL story. Regardless of what you think of the quality
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well it isn't really, it's a story about someone being inspired by someone else, which is as old as the hills.

but regardless, do you not see the difference between a story and a clever story, or a story which requires innovative telling?

if you aren't prepared to see that there's more to developing an art, or taking an art in an innovative direction, than simply doing something which isn't exactly the same as something someone else has done, then you will continue to miss the point.
no film maker is going to be inspired to experiment or innovate by the plot or the execution of good will hunting. there's nothing creative about it at all.
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By your logic you could say there are no original movies, and SW is the same as Dead Poet's Society.

The actual quality of the movie doesn't come into it, although it's worth pointing out they won the Oscar for Best Original Screenplay......

Let's do a different thing then.

Which decade has the most movies where people haven't already made exactly the same movie in exactly the same way before?

Maybe that's more interesting to people.

No no let's argue some more.

We haven't got to the petty name-calling phase yet!

It did win Best Original Screenplay.
The other nominations were:

As Good as It Gets
Boogie Nights
Deconstructing Harry
The Full Monty

I think Boogie Nights should have won from those personally. But then again, they were all original, so maybe it should have been a tie.

Only seen Full Monty from that List.

Men getting their kit off really writes itself huh

As good as it gets is phenomenal

Boogie Nights is overrated imo

comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 7 minutes ago
Boogie Nights is overrated imo
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good butt not grate

comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted about an hour ago
comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 7 minutes ago
Boogie Nights is overrated imo
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good butt not grate
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Correct

Palm Springs (2020), is a romcom in which the protagonists are trapped in a time loop and wake up with every day the same day.

It's got more originality in its pinkie finger than Good Will Hunting has in its entire being.

comment by Bill. (U23088)
posted 1 minute ago
Palm Springs (2020), is a romcom in which the protagonists are trapped in a time loop and wake up with every day the same day.

It's got more originality in its pinkie finger than Good Will Hunting has in its entire being.
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originality doesnt mean better however

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Bill. (U23088)
posted 1 minute ago
Palm Springs (2020), is a romcom in which the protagonists are trapped in a time loop and wake up with every day the same day.

It's got more originality in its pinkie finger than Good Will Hunting has in its entire being.
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originality doesnt mean better however
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I wouldn't disagree

For me personally I attach substantial significance to it, and it can create brilliance.

But I agree with you. A movie doesn't have to be original to be a great movie, and an original movie can be crap.

If originality never happened though, we wouldn't have the history of film that we do have, and we wouldn't have the unoriginal movies that are made today.

In the case of Palm Springs, I personally think it's a fantastic movie.

comment by Bill. (U23088)
posted 32 seconds ago
In the case of Palm Springs, I personally think it's a fantastic movie.
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I thought it was ok, decent and watchable. I didnt think it was particularly original in its writing and the comedy was very much a copy and paste for Andy Samberg (who i am a big fan of).

For me it was a 6/10 decent enough, slightly above average.

Maybe I went in a bit hard on it, but I still think that's harsh. It's a must see on Metacritic, which takes some doing.

I like Empire's review, "It’s taken a long time getting here from across the Pond, but some things are worth waiting for. A wonderful, witty and weird spin on an old favourite, which seems destined to become a classic itself."

comment by Bill. (U23088)
posted 28 minutes ago


Maybe I went in a bit hard on it, but I still think that's harsh. It's a must see on Metacritic, which takes some doing.

I like Empire's review, "It’s taken a long time getting here from across the Pond, but some things are worth waiting for. A wonderful, witty and weird spin on an old favourite, which seems destined to become a classic itself."
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6/10 means its a decent film, better than average.

I really dont see it becoming a classic, its a recommend at best IMO.

It'd be in my top 200 films of all time.

comment by Bill. (U23088)
posted 5 minutes ago
It'd be in my top 200 films of all time.
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We believe you

comment by Bill. (U23088)
posted 6 hours, 14 minutes ago
Palm Springs (2020), is a romcom in which the protagonists are trapped in a time loop and wake up with every day the same day.

It's got more originality in its pinkie finger than Good Will Hunting has in its entire being.
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You mean Groundhog Day?

comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Bill. (U23088)
posted 6 hours, 14 minutes ago
Palm Springs (2020), is a romcom in which the protagonists are trapped in a time loop and wake up with every day the same day.

It's got more originality in its pinkie finger than Good Will Hunting has in its entire being.
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You mean Groundhog Day?
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No in Palm Springs there is TWO people that relive the same day. nothing like groundhog day

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Bill. (U23088)
posted 6 hours, 14 minutes ago
Palm Springs (2020), is a romcom in which the protagonists are trapped in a time loop and wake up with every day the same day.

It's got more originality in its pinkie finger than Good Will Hunting has in its entire being.
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You mean Groundhog Day?
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No in Palm Springs there is TWO people that relive the same day. nothing like groundhog day
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Oh right.

comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Bill. (U23088)
posted 6 hours, 14 minutes ago
Palm Springs (2020), is a romcom in which the protagonists are trapped in a time loop and wake up with every day the same day.

It's got more originality in its pinkie finger than Good Will Hunting has in its entire being.
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You mean Groundhog Day?
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Yes, amongst others. But it still seeps with originality.