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comment by Busby (U19985)
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"You now have people making excuses for him, because he was apparently on anti-depressants that MAY cause violent outbursts."
Stating a contributing factor and making excuses are two entirely different things.
Whoever the doctor is that prescribed these medications probably needs to look in the mirror. Too often doctors write out a prescription to keep their patient happy and their appointments on time.
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Totally agree with your statement about the doctor but disagree with the first statement.
Reason being; there is no consistency. When a 'Muslim' terrorist or 'black thug' does something criminal we don't get such broad coverage and rapid journalism in to their medial or social history that could have an effect on their behaviour.
More importantly mental health affects A LOT of people. The majority of which have taken some form of anti-depressants and do not murder. Anti-depressants don't make you racist or politically ignorant. Violent outbusrts are a lashing out due to an immediate mood swing.
This guy planned this shooting for 6 MONTHS. If anti depressants are responsible for this murder then we would all be dead within months.
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But prescription drugs can and do make people think differently.
Of course this guy is the first the blame, I'm certainly not looking to make excuses, especially if the attack was planned and plotted. I'd assumed he lost his shít and had a mad moment.
But if this man was unstable, a doctor should have recognised this before prescribing mind altering drugs.
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TOTALLY agree that doctors are to trigger happy when it comes to prescriptions and they often know little about what they are prescribing. On the other hand, they can have a very positive effect on the patient and it could be argued that the drugs had prevented him from doing this sooner etc.
Anti-depressants are not the same as anti-psychotics which are perscribed to those with extreme mental illness. Anti depressants on the most part do not create psychosis and cannot be blamed for his actions. Depression does not incite murder, nor does anti-depressants create a want for such actions. Millions of people take this medication on a daily basis including many I know personally and I know the difference.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 11 seconds ago
ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 14 seconds ago
What a lot of people have missed here is that if this guy was a muslim, he would have been called a terrorist first. To suggest otherwise is nonsense.
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Correct, this is type of stereotyping is build into the human mind though.
I believe something like 90% of terror attacks are committed by Muslim folk, meaning 9/10 times a terror attack is Islam related.
Does this mean all Muslims are terrorists? No.
The difference between a mass homicide like this and a terror attack is that one has political aims and the other does not.
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Actually that is not true, the vast majority of terrorist attacks are from right wing terrorist groups. The media does not report it the same but if the persons name is Mohammed it changes.
The FBI for instance is now focused on these domestic groups. They kill more people than the "islamic ones
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I didn't realise you meant domestically, I meant worldwide.
At a time when we don't hunt for food and in a country that isn't at war on their own grounds, I cannot understand the logic behind allowing machine guns and automatic guns. Those a weapons of war, a standard handgun can protect you perfectly fine, but there seems to be an obsession in America with being macho and "defending" yourself. Maybe they all expect some kind of Alien Invasion.
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His haircut is an utter disgrace.
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How would you like it if someone called you "Basin head" ?
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I'd probably shoot them, pal.
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 36 seconds ago
At a time when we don't hunt for food and in a country that isn't at war on their own grounds, I cannot understand the logic behind allowing machine guns and automatic guns. Those a weapons of war, a standard handgun can protect you perfectly fine, but there seems to be an obsession in America with being macho and "defending" yourself. Maybe they all expect some kind of Alien Invasion.
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"Actually that is not true, the vast majority of terrorist attacks are from right wing terrorist groups. The media does not report it the same but if the persons name is Mohammed it changes."
Although I agree with the sentiment Mudd, I think you need to add "in America" to make that factually correct.
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comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 36 seconds ago
"You now have people making excuses for him, because he was apparently on anti-depressants that MAY cause violent outbursts."
Stating a contributing factor and making excuses are two entirely different things.
Whoever the doctor is that prescribed these medications probably needs to look in the mirror. Too often doctors write out a prescription to keep their patient happy and their appointments on time.
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Totally agree with your statement about the doctor but disagree with the first statement.
Reason being; there is no consistency. When a 'Muslim' terrorist or 'black thug' does something criminal we don't get such broad coverage and rapid journalism in to their medial or social history that could have an effect on their behaviour.
More importantly mental health affects A LOT of people. The majority of which have taken some form of anti-depressants and do not murder. Anti-depressants don't make you racist or politically ignorant. Violent outbusrts are a lashing out due to an immediate mood swing.
This guy planned this shooting for 6 MONTHS. If anti depressants are responsible for this murder then we would all be dead within months.
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But prescription drugs can and do make people think differently.
Of course this guy is the first the blame, I'm certainly not looking to make excuses, especially if the attack was planned and plotted. I'd assumed he lost his shít and had a mad moment.
But if this man was unstable, a doctor should have recognised this before prescribing mind altering drugs.
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TOTALLY agree that doctors are to trigger happy when it comes to prescriptions and they often know little about what they are prescribing. On the other hand, they can have a very positive effect on the patient and it could be argued that the drugs had prevented him from doing this sooner etc.
Anti-depressants are not the same as anti-psychotics which are perscribed to those with extreme mental illness. Anti depressants on the most part do not create psychosis and cannot be blamed for his actions. Depression does not incite murder, nor does anti-depressants create a want for such actions. Millions of people take this medication on a daily basis including many I know personally and I know the difference.
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My point being, this man may well have required anti-psychotic drugs or more help with whatever was going through his head.
Like I said, it's mostly irrelevant, this man killed innocent people and there's no excuse for that.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 11 seconds ago
ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 14 seconds ago
What a lot of people have missed here is that if this guy was a muslim, he would have been called a terrorist first. To suggest otherwise is nonsense.
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Correct, this is type of stereotyping is build into the human mind though.
I believe something like 90% of terror attacks are committed by Muslim folk, meaning 9/10 times a terror attack is Islam related.
Does this mean all Muslims are terrorists? No.
The difference between a mass homicide like this and a terror attack is that one has political aims and the other does not.
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Actually that is not true, the vast majority of terrorist attacks are from right wing terrorist groups. The media does not report it the same but if the persons name is Mohammed it changes.
The FBI for instance is now focused on these domestic groups. They kill more people than the "islamic ones
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I didn't realise you meant domestically, I meant worldwide.
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In the US, right wingers, number 1
In Europe, right wingers, number 1
In Africa and the ME, it is mostly people claiming to be muslim
In Asia, it is a mixed bag. Suicide bombing for instance was started by Indians
A lot of people are not aware of this and it creates serious problems. A lot of white people are also not victims of it in Europe for instance, so have no clue it happens
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 minute ago
"Actually that is not true, the vast majority of terrorist attacks are from right wing terrorist groups. The media does not report it the same but if the persons name is Mohammed it changes."
Although I agree with the sentiment Mudd, I think you need to add "in America" to make that factually correct.
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It is the same in Europe as well
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comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 4 minutes ago
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comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 36 seconds ago
"You now have people making excuses for him, because he was apparently on anti-depressants that MAY cause violent outbursts."
Stating a contributing factor and making excuses are two entirely different things.
Whoever the doctor is that prescribed these medications probably needs to look in the mirror. Too often doctors write out a prescription to keep their patient happy and their appointments on time.
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Totally agree with your statement about the doctor but disagree with the first statement.
Reason being; there is no consistency. When a 'Muslim' terrorist or 'black thug' does something criminal we don't get such broad coverage and rapid journalism in to their medial or social history that could have an effect on their behaviour.
More importantly mental health affects A LOT of people. The majority of which have taken some form of anti-depressants and do not murder. Anti-depressants don't make you racist or politically ignorant. Violent outbusrts are a lashing out due to an immediate mood swing.
This guy planned this shooting for 6 MONTHS. If anti depressants are responsible for this murder then we would all be dead within months.
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But prescription drugs can and do make people think differently.
Of course this guy is the first the blame, I'm certainly not looking to make excuses, especially if the attack was planned and plotted. I'd assumed he lost his shít and had a mad moment.
But if this man was unstable, a doctor should have recognised this before prescribing mind altering drugs.
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TOTALLY agree that doctors are to trigger happy when it comes to prescriptions and they often know little about what they are prescribing. On the other hand, they can have a very positive effect on the patient and it could be argued that the drugs had prevented him from doing this sooner etc.
Anti-depressants are not the same as anti-psychotics which are perscribed to those with extreme mental illness. Anti depressants on the most part do not create psychosis and cannot be blamed for his actions. Depression does not incite murder, nor does anti-depressants create a want for such actions. Millions of people take this medication on a daily basis including many I know personally and I know the difference.
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On to the list of mass shooters and the stark link to psychotropic drugs.
• Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold's medical records have never been made available to the public.
• Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather's girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.
• Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.
• Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.
• Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.
• Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.
• Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.
• Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.
• A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.
• Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..
• A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.
• Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.
• TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.
• Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.
• James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.
• Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania
• Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California
• Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
• Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.
• Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic's file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.
• Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.
• Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.
• Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.
• Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.
• Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family's Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.
• Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara's parents said ".... the damn doctor wouldn't take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil..."
• Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002, (Gareth's father could not accept his son's death and killed himself.)
• Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family's detached garage.
• Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.
• Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
• Woody __, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.
• A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.
• Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and "other drugs for the conditions."
• Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.
• Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.
• Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
• Asa Coo n from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Co on was on Trazodone.
• Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.
Missing from list... 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds....
• What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21...... killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az?
• What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24..... killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado?
• What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or?
• What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct?
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/039752_mass_shootings_psychiatric_drugs_antidepressants.html#ixzz3dW6EUvo1
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 14 seconds ago
What a lot of people have missed here is that if this guy was a muslim, he would have been called a terrorist first. To suggest otherwise is nonsense.
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Correct, this is type of stereotyping is build into the human mind though.
I believe something like 90% of terror attacks are committed by Muslim folk, meaning 9/10 times a terror attack is Islam related.
Does this mean all Muslims are terrorists? No.
The difference between a mass homicide like this and a terror attack is that one has political aims and the other does not.
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In 1920 a black community in Tulsa (full of black millionaires and mansions) was invaded and destroyed by jealous white people. It's citizens were lynched and burnt alive whilst properties were looted and burnt to the ground. That was one of many incidents against the black community over the last 100 years...
Are we to say that is not terrorism? If so then, what is?
If that act in 1920 was terrorism then so is this, it's the exact same political agenda, met with the same violent act, in the same country.
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comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 11 seconds ago
ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 14 seconds ago
What a lot of people have missed here is that if this guy was a muslim, he would have been called a terrorist first. To suggest otherwise is nonsense.
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Correct, this is type of stereotyping is build into the human mind though.
I believe something like 90% of terror attacks are committed by Muslim folk, meaning 9/10 times a terror attack is Islam related.
Does this mean all Muslims are terrorists? No.
The difference between a mass homicide like this and a terror attack is that one has political aims and the other does not.
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Actually that is not true, the vast majority of terrorist attacks are from right wing terrorist groups. The media does not report it the same but if the persons name is Mohammed it changes.
The FBI for instance is now focused on these domestic groups. They kill more people than the "islamic ones
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I didn't realise you meant domestically, I meant worldwide.
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In the US, right wingers, number 1
In Europe, right wingers, number 1
In Africa and the ME, it is mostly people claiming to be muslim
In Asia, it is a mixed bag. Suicide bombing for instance was started by Indians
A lot of people are not aware of this and it creates serious problems. A lot of white people are also not victims of it in Europe for instance, so have no clue it happens
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In the US, it is mostly people claiming to be right wingers
In Europe, it is mostly people claiming to be right wingers
In Africa and the ME, muslim number 1
In Asia, it is muslim number 1
So your way or writing it is a fair point of view, yet the second example makes you racist?
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No Busby, the reason why I made the comment about the muslims is that what they do is counter to their faith.
I would not consider Breivik a Christian as well.
The right wing groups take responsibility for their actions.
A few are already mocking the senator that died and are happy his seat is vacant.
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ffs why reply to a long comment like that. Ruins the page.
From the get go they have called it a suspected hate crime so how is he not a criminal? If a black person went in and killed 9 other black people of course it wouldn't be called a hate crime because they are the same race so obviously it would be analysed differently. This guy is going to get the worst punishment possible, no doubt about it.
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 8 seconds ago
From the get go they have called it a suspected hate crime so how is he not a criminal? If a black person went in and killed 9 other black people of course it wouldn't be called a hate crime because they are the same race so obviously it would be analysed differently. This guy is going to get the worst punishment possible, no doubt about it.
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State prosecutor is going for the death penalty
Most of the school shootings and young people shootings were done by people who were on something like Prozac.
The media quit reporting those facts when they found out they could blame a gun instead of the drugs or the shooters.
Makes one wounder how many so called journalist and reporters use Prozac?
The OP clearly hasnt read the BBC reports on this if he thinks the media bias is towards the white guy - jeez
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comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 36 seconds ago
"You now have people making excuses for him, because he was apparently on anti-depressants that MAY cause violent outbursts."
Stating a contributing factor and making excuses are two entirely different things.
Whoever the doctor is that prescribed these medications probably needs to look in the mirror. Too often doctors write out a prescription to keep their patient happy and their appointments on time.
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Totally agree with your statement about the doctor but disagree with the first statement.
Reason being; there is no consistency. When a 'Muslim' terrorist or 'black thug' does something criminal we don't get such broad coverage and rapid journalism in to their medial or social history that could have an effect on their behaviour.
More importantly mental health affects A LOT of people. The majority of which have taken some form of anti-depressants and do not murder. Anti-depressants don't make you racist or politically ignorant. Violent outbusrts are a lashing out due to an immediate mood swing.
This guy planned this shooting for 6 MONTHS. If anti depressants are responsible for this murder then we would all be dead within months.
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But prescription drugs can and do make people think differently.
Of course this guy is the first the blame, I'm certainly not looking to make excuses, especially if the attack was planned and plotted. I'd assumed he lost his shít and had a mad moment.
But if this man was unstable, a doctor should have recognised this before prescribing mind altering drugs.
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TOTALLY agree that doctors are to trigger happy when it comes to prescriptions and they often know little about what they are prescribing. On the other hand, they can have a very positive effect on the patient and it could be argued that the drugs had prevented him from doing this sooner etc.
Anti-depressants are not the same as anti-psychotics which are perscribed to those with extreme mental illness. Anti depressants on the most part do not create psychosis and cannot be blamed for his actions. Depression does not incite murder, nor does anti-depressants create a want for such actions. Millions of people take this medication on a daily basis including many I know personally and I know the difference.
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My point being, this man may well have required anti-psychotic drugs or more help with whatever was going through his head.
Like I said, it's mostly irrelevant, this man killed innocent people and there's no excuse for that.
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I don't think you're wrong, but my point is by the media presenting this information it creates a narrative in which people look for excuses or explanations other than that this guy knew exactly what he was doing.
We don't even know for sure that this guy has a pschotic mental illness but now we're blaming a doctor for something they may or may not have noticed, that may or may not exist.
This thought process and presentation of information does not happen in every case of terrorism when it is reported on in the US media.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 8 seconds ago
From the get go they have called it a suspected hate crime so how is he not a criminal? If a black person went in and killed 9 other black people of course it wouldn't be called a hate crime because they are the same race so obviously it would be analysed differently. This guy is going to get the worst punishment possible, no doubt about it.
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State prosecutor is going for the death penalty
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Whats your feeling on the death penalty MUDD?
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posted 2 minutes ago
ffs why reply to a long comment like that. Ruins the page.
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comment by Infamous Ninja (U18090)
posted 33 seconds ago
Most of the school shootings and young people shootings were done by people who were on something like Prozac.
The media quit reporting those facts when they found out they could blame a gun instead of the drugs or the shooters.
Makes one wounder how many so called journalist and reporters use Prozac?
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I'm sorry, millions of people are on drugs, they do not commit mass murder
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comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 36 seconds ago
"You now have people making excuses for him, because he was apparently on anti-depressants that MAY cause violent outbursts."
Stating a contributing factor and making excuses are two entirely different things.
Whoever the doctor is that prescribed these medications probably needs to look in the mirror. Too often doctors write out a prescription to keep their patient happy and their appointments on time.
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Totally agree with your statement about the doctor but disagree with the first statement.
Reason being; there is no consistency. When a 'Muslim' terrorist or 'black thug' does something criminal we don't get such broad coverage and rapid journalism in to their medial or social history that could have an effect on their behaviour.
More importantly mental health affects A LOT of people. The majority of which have taken some form of anti-depressants and do not murder. Anti-depressants don't make you racist or politically ignorant. Violent outbusrts are a lashing out due to an immediate mood swing.
This guy planned this shooting for 6 MONTHS. If anti depressants are responsible for this murder then we would all be dead within months.
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But prescription drugs can and do make people think differently.
Of course this guy is the first the blame, I'm certainly not looking to make excuses, especially if the attack was planned and plotted. I'd assumed he lost his shít and had a mad moment.
But if this man was unstable, a doctor should have recognised this before prescribing mind altering drugs.
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TOTALLY agree that doctors are to trigger happy when it comes to prescriptions and they often know little about what they are prescribing. On the other hand, they can have a very positive effect on the patient and it could be argued that the drugs had prevented him from doing this sooner etc.
Anti-depressants are not the same as anti-psychotics which are perscribed to those with extreme mental illness. Anti depressants on the most part do not create psychosis and cannot be blamed for his actions. Depression does not incite murder, nor does anti-depressants create a want for such actions. Millions of people take this medication on a daily basis including many I know personally and I know the difference.
posted on 19/6/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 11 seconds ago
ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 14 seconds ago
What a lot of people have missed here is that if this guy was a muslim, he would have been called a terrorist first. To suggest otherwise is nonsense.
____________________________________
Correct, this is type of stereotyping is build into the human mind though.
I believe something like 90% of terror attacks are committed by Muslim folk, meaning 9/10 times a terror attack is Islam related.
Does this mean all Muslims are terrorists? No.
The difference between a mass homicide like this and a terror attack is that one has political aims and the other does not.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually that is not true, the vast majority of terrorist attacks are from right wing terrorist groups. The media does not report it the same but if the persons name is Mohammed it changes.
The FBI for instance is now focused on these domestic groups. They kill more people than the "islamic ones
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I didn't realise you meant domestically, I meant worldwide.
posted on 19/6/15
At a time when we don't hunt for food and in a country that isn't at war on their own grounds, I cannot understand the logic behind allowing machine guns and automatic guns. Those a weapons of war, a standard handgun can protect you perfectly fine, but there seems to be an obsession in America with being macho and "defending" yourself. Maybe they all expect some kind of Alien Invasion.
posted on 19/6/15
comment by MARK (U1449)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by conormcgrace (U4307)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 7 minutes ago
Conor offer an opinion
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His haircut is an utter disgrace.
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How would you like it if someone called you "Basin head" ?
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I'd probably shoot them, pal.
posted on 19/6/15
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 36 seconds ago
At a time when we don't hunt for food and in a country that isn't at war on their own grounds, I cannot understand the logic behind allowing machine guns and automatic guns. Those a weapons of war, a standard handgun can protect you perfectly fine, but there seems to be an obsession in America with being macho and "defending" yourself. Maybe they all expect some kind of Alien Invasion.
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posted on 19/6/15
"Actually that is not true, the vast majority of terrorist attacks are from right wing terrorist groups. The media does not report it the same but if the persons name is Mohammed it changes."
Although I agree with the sentiment Mudd, I think you need to add "in America" to make that factually correct.
posted on 19/6/15
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"You now have people making excuses for him, because he was apparently on anti-depressants that MAY cause violent outbursts."
Stating a contributing factor and making excuses are two entirely different things.
Whoever the doctor is that prescribed these medications probably needs to look in the mirror. Too often doctors write out a prescription to keep their patient happy and their appointments on time.
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Totally agree with your statement about the doctor but disagree with the first statement.
Reason being; there is no consistency. When a 'Muslim' terrorist or 'black thug' does something criminal we don't get such broad coverage and rapid journalism in to their medial or social history that could have an effect on their behaviour.
More importantly mental health affects A LOT of people. The majority of which have taken some form of anti-depressants and do not murder. Anti-depressants don't make you racist or politically ignorant. Violent outbusrts are a lashing out due to an immediate mood swing.
This guy planned this shooting for 6 MONTHS. If anti depressants are responsible for this murder then we would all be dead within months.
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But prescription drugs can and do make people think differently.
Of course this guy is the first the blame, I'm certainly not looking to make excuses, especially if the attack was planned and plotted. I'd assumed he lost his shít and had a mad moment.
But if this man was unstable, a doctor should have recognised this before prescribing mind altering drugs.
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TOTALLY agree that doctors are to trigger happy when it comes to prescriptions and they often know little about what they are prescribing. On the other hand, they can have a very positive effect on the patient and it could be argued that the drugs had prevented him from doing this sooner etc.
Anti-depressants are not the same as anti-psychotics which are perscribed to those with extreme mental illness. Anti depressants on the most part do not create psychosis and cannot be blamed for his actions. Depression does not incite murder, nor does anti-depressants create a want for such actions. Millions of people take this medication on a daily basis including many I know personally and I know the difference.
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My point being, this man may well have required anti-psychotic drugs or more help with whatever was going through his head.
Like I said, it's mostly irrelevant, this man killed innocent people and there's no excuse for that.
posted on 19/6/15
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ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
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What a lot of people have missed here is that if this guy was a muslim, he would have been called a terrorist first. To suggest otherwise is nonsense.
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Correct, this is type of stereotyping is build into the human mind though.
I believe something like 90% of terror attacks are committed by Muslim folk, meaning 9/10 times a terror attack is Islam related.
Does this mean all Muslims are terrorists? No.
The difference between a mass homicide like this and a terror attack is that one has political aims and the other does not.
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Actually that is not true, the vast majority of terrorist attacks are from right wing terrorist groups. The media does not report it the same but if the persons name is Mohammed it changes.
The FBI for instance is now focused on these domestic groups. They kill more people than the "islamic ones
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I didn't realise you meant domestically, I meant worldwide.
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In the US, right wingers, number 1
In Europe, right wingers, number 1
In Africa and the ME, it is mostly people claiming to be muslim
In Asia, it is a mixed bag. Suicide bombing for instance was started by Indians
A lot of people are not aware of this and it creates serious problems. A lot of white people are also not victims of it in Europe for instance, so have no clue it happens
posted on 19/6/15
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 minute ago
"Actually that is not true, the vast majority of terrorist attacks are from right wing terrorist groups. The media does not report it the same but if the persons name is Mohammed it changes."
Although I agree with the sentiment Mudd, I think you need to add "in America" to make that factually correct.
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It is the same in Europe as well
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"You now have people making excuses for him, because he was apparently on anti-depressants that MAY cause violent outbursts."
Stating a contributing factor and making excuses are two entirely different things.
Whoever the doctor is that prescribed these medications probably needs to look in the mirror. Too often doctors write out a prescription to keep their patient happy and their appointments on time.
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Totally agree with your statement about the doctor but disagree with the first statement.
Reason being; there is no consistency. When a 'Muslim' terrorist or 'black thug' does something criminal we don't get such broad coverage and rapid journalism in to their medial or social history that could have an effect on their behaviour.
More importantly mental health affects A LOT of people. The majority of which have taken some form of anti-depressants and do not murder. Anti-depressants don't make you racist or politically ignorant. Violent outbusrts are a lashing out due to an immediate mood swing.
This guy planned this shooting for 6 MONTHS. If anti depressants are responsible for this murder then we would all be dead within months.
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But prescription drugs can and do make people think differently.
Of course this guy is the first the blame, I'm certainly not looking to make excuses, especially if the attack was planned and plotted. I'd assumed he lost his shít and had a mad moment.
But if this man was unstable, a doctor should have recognised this before prescribing mind altering drugs.
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TOTALLY agree that doctors are to trigger happy when it comes to prescriptions and they often know little about what they are prescribing. On the other hand, they can have a very positive effect on the patient and it could be argued that the drugs had prevented him from doing this sooner etc.
Anti-depressants are not the same as anti-psychotics which are perscribed to those with extreme mental illness. Anti depressants on the most part do not create psychosis and cannot be blamed for his actions. Depression does not incite murder, nor does anti-depressants create a want for such actions. Millions of people take this medication on a daily basis including many I know personally and I know the difference.
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On to the list of mass shooters and the stark link to psychotropic drugs.
• Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold's medical records have never been made available to the public.
• Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather's girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.
• Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.
• Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.
• Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.
• Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.
• Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.
• Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.
• A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.
• Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..
• A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.
• Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.
• TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.
• Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.
• James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.
• Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania
• Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California
• Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
• Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.
• Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic's file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.
• Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.
• Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.
• Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.
• Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.
• Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family's Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.
• Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara's parents said ".... the damn doctor wouldn't take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil..."
• Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002, (Gareth's father could not accept his son's death and killed himself.)
• Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family's detached garage.
• Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.
• Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
• Woody __, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.
• A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.
• Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and "other drugs for the conditions."
• Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.
• Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.
• Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
• Asa Coo n from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Co on was on Trazodone.
• Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.
Missing from list... 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds....
• What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21...... killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az?
• What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24..... killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado?
• What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or?
• What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct?
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/039752_mass_shootings_psychiatric_drugs_antidepressants.html#ixzz3dW6EUvo1
posted on 19/6/15
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 14 seconds ago
What a lot of people have missed here is that if this guy was a muslim, he would have been called a terrorist first. To suggest otherwise is nonsense.
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Correct, this is type of stereotyping is build into the human mind though.
I believe something like 90% of terror attacks are committed by Muslim folk, meaning 9/10 times a terror attack is Islam related.
Does this mean all Muslims are terrorists? No.
The difference between a mass homicide like this and a terror attack is that one has political aims and the other does not.
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In 1920 a black community in Tulsa (full of black millionaires and mansions) was invaded and destroyed by jealous white people. It's citizens were lynched and burnt alive whilst properties were looted and burnt to the ground. That was one of many incidents against the black community over the last 100 years...
Are we to say that is not terrorism? If so then, what is?
If that act in 1920 was terrorism then so is this, it's the exact same political agenda, met with the same violent act, in the same country.
posted on 19/6/15
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posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 11 seconds ago
ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 14 seconds ago
What a lot of people have missed here is that if this guy was a muslim, he would have been called a terrorist first. To suggest otherwise is nonsense.
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Correct, this is type of stereotyping is build into the human mind though.
I believe something like 90% of terror attacks are committed by Muslim folk, meaning 9/10 times a terror attack is Islam related.
Does this mean all Muslims are terrorists? No.
The difference between a mass homicide like this and a terror attack is that one has political aims and the other does not.
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Actually that is not true, the vast majority of terrorist attacks are from right wing terrorist groups. The media does not report it the same but if the persons name is Mohammed it changes.
The FBI for instance is now focused on these domestic groups. They kill more people than the "islamic ones
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I didn't realise you meant domestically, I meant worldwide.
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In the US, right wingers, number 1
In Europe, right wingers, number 1
In Africa and the ME, it is mostly people claiming to be muslim
In Asia, it is a mixed bag. Suicide bombing for instance was started by Indians
A lot of people are not aware of this and it creates serious problems. A lot of white people are also not victims of it in Europe for instance, so have no clue it happens
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In the US, it is mostly people claiming to be right wingers
In Europe, it is mostly people claiming to be right wingers
In Africa and the ME, muslim number 1
In Asia, it is muslim number 1
So your way or writing it is a fair point of view, yet the second example makes you racist?
posted on 19/6/15
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posted on 19/6/15
No Busby, the reason why I made the comment about the muslims is that what they do is counter to their faith.
I would not consider Breivik a Christian as well.
The right wing groups take responsibility for their actions.
A few are already mocking the senator that died and are happy his seat is vacant.
posted on 19/6/15
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posted on 19/6/15
ffs why reply to a long comment like that. Ruins the page.
posted on 19/6/15
From the get go they have called it a suspected hate crime so how is he not a criminal? If a black person went in and killed 9 other black people of course it wouldn't be called a hate crime because they are the same race so obviously it would be analysed differently. This guy is going to get the worst punishment possible, no doubt about it.
posted on 19/6/15
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 8 seconds ago
From the get go they have called it a suspected hate crime so how is he not a criminal? If a black person went in and killed 9 other black people of course it wouldn't be called a hate crime because they are the same race so obviously it would be analysed differently. This guy is going to get the worst punishment possible, no doubt about it.
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State prosecutor is going for the death penalty
posted on 19/6/15
Most of the school shootings and young people shootings were done by people who were on something like Prozac.
The media quit reporting those facts when they found out they could blame a gun instead of the drugs or the shooters.
Makes one wounder how many so called journalist and reporters use Prozac?
posted on 19/6/15
The OP clearly hasnt read the BBC reports on this if he thinks the media bias is towards the white guy - jeez
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posted 36 seconds ago
"You now have people making excuses for him, because he was apparently on anti-depressants that MAY cause violent outbursts."
Stating a contributing factor and making excuses are two entirely different things.
Whoever the doctor is that prescribed these medications probably needs to look in the mirror. Too often doctors write out a prescription to keep their patient happy and their appointments on time.
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Totally agree with your statement about the doctor but disagree with the first statement.
Reason being; there is no consistency. When a 'Muslim' terrorist or 'black thug' does something criminal we don't get such broad coverage and rapid journalism in to their medial or social history that could have an effect on their behaviour.
More importantly mental health affects A LOT of people. The majority of which have taken some form of anti-depressants and do not murder. Anti-depressants don't make you racist or politically ignorant. Violent outbusrts are a lashing out due to an immediate mood swing.
This guy planned this shooting for 6 MONTHS. If anti depressants are responsible for this murder then we would all be dead within months.
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But prescription drugs can and do make people think differently.
Of course this guy is the first the blame, I'm certainly not looking to make excuses, especially if the attack was planned and plotted. I'd assumed he lost his shít and had a mad moment.
But if this man was unstable, a doctor should have recognised this before prescribing mind altering drugs.
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TOTALLY agree that doctors are to trigger happy when it comes to prescriptions and they often know little about what they are prescribing. On the other hand, they can have a very positive effect on the patient and it could be argued that the drugs had prevented him from doing this sooner etc.
Anti-depressants are not the same as anti-psychotics which are perscribed to those with extreme mental illness. Anti depressants on the most part do not create psychosis and cannot be blamed for his actions. Depression does not incite murder, nor does anti-depressants create a want for such actions. Millions of people take this medication on a daily basis including many I know personally and I know the difference.
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My point being, this man may well have required anti-psychotic drugs or more help with whatever was going through his head.
Like I said, it's mostly irrelevant, this man killed innocent people and there's no excuse for that.
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I don't think you're wrong, but my point is by the media presenting this information it creates a narrative in which people look for excuses or explanations other than that this guy knew exactly what he was doing.
We don't even know for sure that this guy has a pschotic mental illness but now we're blaming a doctor for something they may or may not have noticed, that may or may not exist.
This thought process and presentation of information does not happen in every case of terrorism when it is reported on in the US media.
posted on 19/6/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 8 seconds ago
From the get go they have called it a suspected hate crime so how is he not a criminal? If a black person went in and killed 9 other black people of course it wouldn't be called a hate crime because they are the same race so obviously it would be analysed differently. This guy is going to get the worst punishment possible, no doubt about it.
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State prosecutor is going for the death penalty
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Whats your feeling on the death penalty MUDD?
posted on 19/6/15
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posted 2 minutes ago
ffs why reply to a long comment like that. Ruins the page.
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posted on 19/6/15
comment by Infamous Ninja (U18090)
posted 33 seconds ago
Most of the school shootings and young people shootings were done by people who were on something like Prozac.
The media quit reporting those facts when they found out they could blame a gun instead of the drugs or the shooters.
Makes one wounder how many so called journalist and reporters use Prozac?
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I'm sorry, millions of people are on drugs, they do not commit mass murder
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