The best wars are the ones you don't fight yourself.

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 minute ago
The best wars are the ones you don't fight yourself.
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True. I'd rather we just left the middle east to it now.

It's tough to take attacks on tourists but the best option would be to block any travel to these countries imo, not bomb them.

USA, Jordan, UAE and Saudi are already dropping bombs in Syria as well as other rebels fighting IS and the Syrian Army but IS seem to continue to grow.

We should stay out of this.

There's a few rival factions sprouting up that have issues with each other as well.

comment by (Kash) Mario Balle Balle Balotelli - Justice4Gaza (U1108)
posted 29 seconds ago
USA, Jordan, UAE and Saudi are already dropping bombs in Syria as well as other rebels fighting IS and the Syrian Army but IS seem to continue to grow.

We should stay out of this.
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At what point to IS become so big that action needs to be taken though?

Places like Saudi are part of the problem, rich folk providing Sunni/ Shia groups with artillery to attack each other in Lebanon, Syria etc. It's crazy.

i would suggest we leave well alone.

These one off attacks from terrorists can happen anywhere and we need the best survilance money can buy but getting involved in foreign wars hasn't resulted in any of those regions being better off.

Im tired of us fighting foreign wars against newly formed armies that WE actually helped arm. It was only a few years ago we saw these insurgents as the "good guys" fighting against Asad who was gassing his own Syrian people.
No amount of bombing solves anything.

The UK does not need the backing of MPs to launch raids

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It needs the backing of the Government, that is for sure.

ISIS headquarters in Raqqa, Syria is the target.

Vast bombardments, using B52s, would inevitably mean civilian casualties.

They call it collateral damage and although it will be biblical and it will be a success.

However the media will report it as murder.

We should stay out of this.

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No, we shouldn't.

They have already targeted the UK. And the UK does not bow down to Terrorists.

We should arm the Kurds directly

Terrorist attacks always increase with our military action. Our foreign policy has been blamed by extremists as the reason the commit atrocities. If we bomb them it plays right into their hands. IS were created out of our actions in Afghan, Iraq and Syria. Bombing and destabilising countries is a breeding ground for terrorism. Our government use the guise of protecting us from terror for their military action as the reason they attack Middle East. When in reality our country has become more unsafe, and we are more in danger of terrorism since we started war on terror. There wasn't any Islamic terroism against us before we got involved.

We bomb them, kill civilians, destroy cities, all that will do is act as a propaganda tools for more people to joint terror groups. We can be portrayed as the evil imperialist west, who are against Islam and so on. They can easily warp disaffected people to hate us with all the material.

I recently watched and read stuff by Jurgen Todenhofer. He's only western journalist to have been granted access into IS. He gives a great incite into the reason why this started and what the solution might be. He spent extended time with them and interviewed, saw their society. He was saying in short, they won't be defeated until Sunni Muslims on mass stop putting up with them. The west has caused this and make it worse. It's not really our fight. Any I recommend looking at his stuff.

So the Kurds can carve out their own state out of Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Armenia and Syria and destabilise the region further
Kurds have their own agenda

Actions in Libya I meant. Not Syria

comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 2 minutes ago
So the Kurds can carve out their own state out of Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Armenia and Syria and destabilise the region further
Kurds have their own agenda
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Of course they have. For a people of 30 M without their own country, it's natural they have such ambitions.

comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 9 minutes ago
We should arm the Kurds directly
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No, no, no. Didn't Turkey just change their legislation so they can attack Syria themselves?

Last think anybody needs is the Kirds gathering momentum, although if they can fight Syria off their boarders in the short term that's great.

comment by march_2k (U10336)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 2 minutes ago
So the Kurds can carve out their own state out of Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Armenia and Syria and destabilise the region further
Kurds have their own agenda
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Of course they have. For a people of 30 M without their own country, it's natural they have such ambitions.
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So let's arm them to carve it out of these already established countries
That would certainly help the region

So let's arm them to carve it out of these already established countries
That would certainly help the region

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Or of course we could just leave them alone to get persecuted and killed by what ever faction of Islam it is that doesn't seem to like them.

So we should leave well alone then?

And just accept that British nationals become sitting ducks for these fruitcakes?

I think not, you need to fight fire with fire, because there's no negotiating with them

There's no way to predict a loan gunman attack like in Tunisia, something has to be done about Is though.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
So let's arm them to carve it out of these already established countries
That would certainly help the region

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Or of course we could just leave them alone to get persecuted and killed by what ever faction of Islam it is that doesn't seem to like them.
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Most are Muslims themselves

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 19 minutes ago
We should stay out of this.

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No, we shouldn't.

They have already targeted the UK. And the UK does not bow down to Terrorists.
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Firstly, we already have blood on our hands - we haven't, 'kept out of this'. So the position VC responded to hear is by default, moot:

https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/secret-pentagon-report-reveals-west-saw-isis-as-strategic-asset-b99ad7a29092

In response to VC - the UK government supports and back terrorists and extremist groups all the time, including right up to the current day. That's not even mentioning British and US terror, such as the drone campaigns, our invasions and occupations etc...

If 'the UK' (and by this I mean out governments), have any genuine interest in reducing the threat of terrorism, there's pretty straightforward steps it could take, like not participating in it, supporting it, funding it and committing it on a routine and regular basis.

Let the Kurds impose their version of Islam instead
Won't solve anything

''UK should bomb Syria?''

No, we should not!

Someone should take out Assad and stop the use of barrel bombs that his regime uses.

We allow the Israelis to persecute the Palestinians so why not arm the Palestinians