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posted 1 minute ago
No religion = a much better world to live in.
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we can all dream
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And you can carry on dreaming if you think people in the Middle East wouldn't attack us if they were atheist.
You keep on missing the point that they are attacking us because we reduced there nations to rubble.
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that may be a minor factor but not the main one
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Which nation ? They don't know what they re even fighting for ISIS. They are just pure evil wanting to cause terror, butcher people, control people, rape women ! Destroy historical sites which are thousands of years old. Nutters !
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A lack of education.
And I don't mean reading and writing, they are just terribly misinformed. The destruction of historical sites is particularly concerning and upsetting.
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posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 1 minute ago
No religion = a much better world to live in.
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we can all dream
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And you can carry on dreaming if you think people in the Middle East wouldn't attack us if they were atheist.
You keep on missing the point that they are attacking us because we reduced there nations to rubble.
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that may be a minor factor but not the main one
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Which nation ? They don't know what they re even fighting for ISIS. They are just pure evil wanting to cause terror, butcher people, control people, rape women ! Destroy historical sites which are thousands of years old. Nutters !
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they are fighting for an islamic state which is pretty clear to everyone
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 36 seconds ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
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Exactly. Why KFC sees any discussion of IS as an insult to him is beyond me.
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comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 1 minute ago
No religion = a much better world to live in.
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we can all dream
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And you can carry on dreaming if you think people in the Middle East wouldn't attack us if they were atheist.
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But maybe they would be attacking each other because of which type of Islam they follow?
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The conflict between Shias and Muslim is because of a different "type" of Islam. It's routes are political as well, it goes back to the first Calipha after the death of Muhammad pbuh.
Either side wanted a different successor to rule and that's how the in fighting began.
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Bomb them all.
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If?
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And?
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Maybe?
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How?
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But?
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they are fighting for an islamic state which is pretty clear to everyone
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They haven't a clue what they're doing.
They're off their heads with rage.
Religion in it's purest form is all well and good. Not my cup of tea but it is only positive.
Man made religious texts and rules however, bring nothing but bad.
If everybody religious agreed there is one god and he only promotes good they'd essentially be a much of hippies.
Instead we have people unable to do the most natural human instinct, to have séx. We have people eating cows and chickens but not pigs. We have people chopping others heads off because their book says you should kill infidels.
The issue isn't faith, it's religious groups.
Whoops! I read this bit:
"You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. "
and commented before finishing reading it
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comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 1 minute ago
Bomb them all.
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Why?
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When?
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If?
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And?
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Maybe?
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How?
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But?
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So?
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Well?
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comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 1 minute ago
No religion = a much better world to live in.
====================================
we can all dream
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And you can carry on dreaming if you think people in the Middle East wouldn't attack us if they were atheist.
You keep on missing the point that they are attacking us because we reduced there nations to rubble.
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that may be a minor factor but not the main one
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Which nation ? They don't know what they re even fighting for ISIS. They are just pure evil wanting to cause terror, butcher people, control people, rape women ! Destroy historical sites which are thousands of years old. Nutters !
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they are fighting for an islamic state which is pretty clear to everyone
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Haha.. an Islamic state. But they aren't religious, they are murdering basstards. They slaughter their own too.
What will they do then once they have this paradise ?
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
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You keep on missing the point that they are attacking us because we reduced there nations to rubble.
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So, those people on the beach were shot because someone the same colour as them killed some brown people (as they're the only similarities I can see) ? Or did the "brave freedom fighters" think that the people on the beach had carried out murders and deserved it?
Using that logic, any brownish in Britain should be scared of every white person, because now the whiteys can justify killing brown people as their revenge on behalf of the dead on the beach.
What ISIS don't realise amongst all of their pontificating (and what the Taliban and Al Qaeda never understood) is that the UK and USA were never in a state of war throughout any of these conflicts. If Britain and the USA actually mobilised for war and the economy and industry were put on a war footing they would quite literally be obliterated in a matter of months. These radicals should be grateful for our mercy in that regard.
Germany inspired and sponsored jihad in the Middle East in the late 19th Century in order that the "Muslim brotherhood" drive the British out of the colonies, such that Germany could then occupy.
If we can’t stop people from places like Leeds and Luton from becoming radicalised and attacking us, I don’t know why we think we can police regions like the Middle East, especially when we cut the military budget every year, and will soon be sending our soldiers into battle with pea-shooters, and chartering Ryanair planes to do the bombing.
The USA is the most militarised country on earth, by some distance, but they can’t do it either, because they don’t have the stomach to sort out the messes they create. To turn Iraq into a stable democracy with a strong military and Police to protect it, we’d probably have had to stay another 20 years or so, but eventually we get sick of our soldiers coming home in body-bags and pull out, leaving a bigger mess than the one we attacked in the first place.
IS have filled a power vacuum that we created, so how do we break out of this vicious circle, and when are we going to learn that every time we interfere, we create thousands more terrorists?
On a regular basis, somebody walks into a public building in America and shoots up the occupants of it, even when they are schoolchildren, and if we can’t get to the bottom of the sense of alienation that drives this pyschopathic behaviour, why on earth do we think we can go to countries we don’t understand, with grinding poverty and makeshift power structures, and sort it out there?
The standard profile of these radicalised individuals is that they show little sign of the direction they are heading, and then get radicalised within six months and go mental. That mental-case in Tunisia was typical in that he showed no real sign of any interest in Islam until he was attracted by the nut-job, radicalised version of it, and once that happens, the full conversion to pyscopath seems to typically take only a few months.
The last place to go looking for somebody who might undergo such a rapid conversion appears to be in mosques, because they typically do not show any interest in religion beforehand.
The people of Tunisia appear to be as appalled by his actions as we are, so we have plenty of allies in these regions, it’s just that they don’t remain allies for very long after we’ve decided to bomb them, because we’re not capable of identifying radicalised psychopaths and bombing them with surgical precision. There is going to be a fair amount of ‘collateral damage’ as well., and we end up killing people whose families might have supported us.
So what would help more, in a place like Tunisia, is if we provide infrastructure and support for the people there to identify the problem and protect themselves from it. Aid is cheaper and more effective than bombs, as the Chinese are currently demonstrating by investing and making friends all around the world.
But it would help if we were capable of identifying the problem in our own countries first.
We are too focussed on the nutjob tribes and causes they are attracted to, and not enough on why they are attracted to them, so once you’ve expended lives and fortunes on eradicating these tribes, they just switch to another one.
Al Qaeda becomes IS, becomes something else, it’s an endless vicious circle, and when schoolchildren get shot up in America, it is not usually in the name of any particular ideology, and there’s just a pointless debate about gun-control, which the gun lobby always wins, before carrying on as if nothing happened, because we don't know which tribe to bomb.
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posted 5 seconds ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 36 seconds ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
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Exactly. Why KFC sees any discussion of IS as an insult to him is beyond me.
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I don't, if you actually pay attention to any of my posts are am purposefully targeting those that attribute there actions to Islamic practice.
I've spent a lot of time on these threads using Islamic evidence as to how they are not practicing Islam.
All of this has seemed to of gone over people's heads and they now think that i feel there actions are absolved because of our foreign policy.
Some people clearly can't read within context.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
Religion in it's purest form is all well and good. Not my cup of tea but it is only positive.
Man made religious texts and rules however, bring nothing but bad.
If everybody religious agreed there is one god and he only promotes good they'd essentially be a much of hippies.
Instead we have people unable to do the most natural human instinct, to have séx. We have people eating cows and chickens but not pigs. We have people chopping others heads off because their book says you should kill infidels.
The issue isn't faith, it's religious groups.
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Or cultures
The conflict between Shias and Muslim is because of a different "type" of Islam. It's routes are political as well, it goes back to the first Calipha after the death of Muhammad pbuh.
...............
Long before any involvement of the West, yes?
comment by The Iron Tulip's Philosophy (U17867)
posted 58 seconds ago
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posted 2 seconds ago
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posted 27 seconds ago
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posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 1 minute ago
No religion = a much better world to live in.
====================================
we can all dream
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And you can carry on dreaming if you think people in the Middle East wouldn't attack us if they were atheist.
You keep on missing the point that they are attacking us because we reduced there nations to rubble.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
that may be a minor factor but not the main one
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which nation ? They don't know what they re even fighting for ISIS. They are just pure evil wanting to cause terror, butcher people, control people, rape women ! Destroy historical sites which are thousands of years old. Nutters !
----------------------------------------------------------------------
they are fighting for an islamic state which is pretty clear to everyone
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Haha.. an Islamic state. But they aren't religious, they are murdering basstards. They slaughter their own too.
What will they do then once they have this paradise ?
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Of course they are religious. they will continue with the aim they set out. Expand through force like the previous caliphates
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 55 seconds ago
Germany inspired and sponsored jihad in the Middle East in the late 19th Century in order that the "Muslim brotherhood" drive the British out of the colonies, such that Germany could then occupy.
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What does Jihad mean?
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
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Come on, Muslims are everywhere in the UK, and people aren't scared of them.
People are scared of extremists, not Muslims.
"and will soon be sending our soldiers into battle with pea-shooters, and chartering Ryanair planes to do the bombing."
Source?
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 55 seconds ago
Germany inspired and sponsored jihad in the Middle East in the late 19th Century in order that the "Muslim brotherhood" drive the British out of the colonies, such that Germany could then occupy.
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What does Jihad mean?
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Holy war
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
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You keep on missing the point that they are attacking us because we reduced there nations to rubble.
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They've been killing each other forever, long before we got involved.
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comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 1 minute ago
Bomb them all.
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"You keep on missing the point that they are attacking us because we reduced there nations to rubble."
If it is nationalistic, how does that explain the attacker in Tunisia or the amount of Brits going to fight with them?
The radicalised youth are attacking because, for whatever reason, they believe they will be rewarded for doing so and are willing to die for what they perceive to be their religion.
It is monumentally stupid to not include that in the debate.
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comment by The Iron Tulip's Philosophy (U17867)
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posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 1 minute ago
No religion = a much better world to live in.
====================================
we can all dream
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And you can carry on dreaming if you think people in the Middle East wouldn't attack us if they were atheist.
You keep on missing the point that they are attacking us because we reduced there nations to rubble.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
that may be a minor factor but not the main one
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which nation ? They don't know what they re even fighting for ISIS. They are just pure evil wanting to cause terror, butcher people, control people, rape women ! Destroy historical sites which are thousands of years old. Nutters !
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A lack of education.
And I don't mean reading and writing, they are just terribly misinformed. The destruction of historical sites is particularly concerning and upsetting.
posted on 2/7/15
comment by The Iron Tulip's Philosophy (U17867)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 1 minute ago
No religion = a much better world to live in.
====================================
we can all dream
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And you can carry on dreaming if you think people in the Middle East wouldn't attack us if they were atheist.
You keep on missing the point that they are attacking us because we reduced there nations to rubble.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
that may be a minor factor but not the main one
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which nation ? They don't know what they re even fighting for ISIS. They are just pure evil wanting to cause terror, butcher people, control people, rape women ! Destroy historical sites which are thousands of years old. Nutters !
----------------------------------------------------------------------
they are fighting for an islamic state which is pretty clear to everyone
posted on 2/7/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 36 seconds ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
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Exactly. Why KFC sees any discussion of IS as an insult to him is beyond me.
posted on 2/7/15
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 46 seconds ago
Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 1 minute ago
No religion = a much better world to live in.
====================================
we can all dream
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And you can carry on dreaming if you think people in the Middle East wouldn't attack us if they were atheist.
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But maybe they would be attacking each other because of which type of Islam they follow?
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The conflict between Shias and Muslim is because of a different "type" of Islam. It's routes are political as well, it goes back to the first Calipha after the death of Muhammad pbuh.
Either side wanted a different successor to rule and that's how the in fighting began.
posted on 2/7/15
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posted 33 seconds ago
comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 1 minute ago
Bomb them all.
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Why?
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When?
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If?
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And?
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Maybe?
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How?
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But?
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So?
posted on 2/7/15
they are fighting for an islamic state which is pretty clear to everyone
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They haven't a clue what they're doing.
They're off their heads with rage.
posted on 2/7/15
Religion in it's purest form is all well and good. Not my cup of tea but it is only positive.
Man made religious texts and rules however, bring nothing but bad.
If everybody religious agreed there is one god and he only promotes good they'd essentially be a much of hippies.
Instead we have people unable to do the most natural human instinct, to have séx. We have people eating cows and chickens but not pigs. We have people chopping others heads off because their book says you should kill infidels.
The issue isn't faith, it's religious groups.
posted on 2/7/15
Whoops! I read this bit:
"You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. "
and commented before finishing reading it
posted on 2/7/15
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posted 33 seconds ago
comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 1 minute ago
Bomb them all.
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Why?
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When?
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If?
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And?
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Maybe?
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How?
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But?
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So?
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Well?
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comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
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comment by The Iron Tulip's Philosophy (U17867)
posted 27 seconds ago
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posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 1 minute ago
No religion = a much better world to live in.
====================================
we can all dream
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And you can carry on dreaming if you think people in the Middle East wouldn't attack us if they were atheist.
You keep on missing the point that they are attacking us because we reduced there nations to rubble.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
that may be a minor factor but not the main one
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which nation ? They don't know what they re even fighting for ISIS. They are just pure evil wanting to cause terror, butcher people, control people, rape women ! Destroy historical sites which are thousands of years old. Nutters !
----------------------------------------------------------------------
they are fighting for an islamic state which is pretty clear to everyone
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Haha.. an Islamic state. But they aren't religious, they are murdering basstards. They slaughter their own too.
What will they do then once they have this paradise ?
posted on 2/7/15
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
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You keep on missing the point that they are attacking us because we reduced there nations to rubble.
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So, those people on the beach were shot because someone the same colour as them killed some brown people (as they're the only similarities I can see) ? Or did the "brave freedom fighters" think that the people on the beach had carried out murders and deserved it?
Using that logic, any brownish in Britain should be scared of every white person, because now the whiteys can justify killing brown people as their revenge on behalf of the dead on the beach.
posted on 2/7/15
What ISIS don't realise amongst all of their pontificating (and what the Taliban and Al Qaeda never understood) is that the UK and USA were never in a state of war throughout any of these conflicts. If Britain and the USA actually mobilised for war and the economy and industry were put on a war footing they would quite literally be obliterated in a matter of months. These radicals should be grateful for our mercy in that regard.
posted on 2/7/15
Germany inspired and sponsored jihad in the Middle East in the late 19th Century in order that the "Muslim brotherhood" drive the British out of the colonies, such that Germany could then occupy.
posted on 2/7/15
If we can’t stop people from places like Leeds and Luton from becoming radicalised and attacking us, I don’t know why we think we can police regions like the Middle East, especially when we cut the military budget every year, and will soon be sending our soldiers into battle with pea-shooters, and chartering Ryanair planes to do the bombing.
The USA is the most militarised country on earth, by some distance, but they can’t do it either, because they don’t have the stomach to sort out the messes they create. To turn Iraq into a stable democracy with a strong military and Police to protect it, we’d probably have had to stay another 20 years or so, but eventually we get sick of our soldiers coming home in body-bags and pull out, leaving a bigger mess than the one we attacked in the first place.
IS have filled a power vacuum that we created, so how do we break out of this vicious circle, and when are we going to learn that every time we interfere, we create thousands more terrorists?
On a regular basis, somebody walks into a public building in America and shoots up the occupants of it, even when they are schoolchildren, and if we can’t get to the bottom of the sense of alienation that drives this pyschopathic behaviour, why on earth do we think we can go to countries we don’t understand, with grinding poverty and makeshift power structures, and sort it out there?
The standard profile of these radicalised individuals is that they show little sign of the direction they are heading, and then get radicalised within six months and go mental. That mental-case in Tunisia was typical in that he showed no real sign of any interest in Islam until he was attracted by the nut-job, radicalised version of it, and once that happens, the full conversion to pyscopath seems to typically take only a few months.
The last place to go looking for somebody who might undergo such a rapid conversion appears to be in mosques, because they typically do not show any interest in religion beforehand.
The people of Tunisia appear to be as appalled by his actions as we are, so we have plenty of allies in these regions, it’s just that they don’t remain allies for very long after we’ve decided to bomb them, because we’re not capable of identifying radicalised psychopaths and bombing them with surgical precision. There is going to be a fair amount of ‘collateral damage’ as well., and we end up killing people whose families might have supported us.
So what would help more, in a place like Tunisia, is if we provide infrastructure and support for the people there to identify the problem and protect themselves from it. Aid is cheaper and more effective than bombs, as the Chinese are currently demonstrating by investing and making friends all around the world.
But it would help if we were capable of identifying the problem in our own countries first.
We are too focussed on the nutjob tribes and causes they are attracted to, and not enough on why they are attracted to them, so once you’ve expended lives and fortunes on eradicating these tribes, they just switch to another one.
Al Qaeda becomes IS, becomes something else, it’s an endless vicious circle, and when schoolchildren get shot up in America, it is not usually in the name of any particular ideology, and there’s just a pointless debate about gun-control, which the gun lobby always wins, before carrying on as if nothing happened, because we don't know which tribe to bomb.
posted on 2/7/15
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 36 seconds ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
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Exactly. Why KFC sees any discussion of IS as an insult to him is beyond me.
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I don't, if you actually pay attention to any of my posts are am purposefully targeting those that attribute there actions to Islamic practice.
I've spent a lot of time on these threads using Islamic evidence as to how they are not practicing Islam.
All of this has seemed to of gone over people's heads and they now think that i feel there actions are absolved because of our foreign policy.
Some people clearly can't read within context.
posted on 2/7/15
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
Religion in it's purest form is all well and good. Not my cup of tea but it is only positive.
Man made religious texts and rules however, bring nothing but bad.
If everybody religious agreed there is one god and he only promotes good they'd essentially be a much of hippies.
Instead we have people unable to do the most natural human instinct, to have séx. We have people eating cows and chickens but not pigs. We have people chopping others heads off because their book says you should kill infidels.
The issue isn't faith, it's religious groups.
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Or cultures
posted on 2/7/15
The conflict between Shias and Muslim is because of a different "type" of Islam. It's routes are political as well, it goes back to the first Calipha after the death of Muhammad pbuh.
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Long before any involvement of the West, yes?
posted on 2/7/15
comment by The Iron Tulip's Philosophy (U17867)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by The Iron Tulip's Philosophy (U17867)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 1 minute ago
No religion = a much better world to live in.
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we can all dream
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And you can carry on dreaming if you think people in the Middle East wouldn't attack us if they were atheist.
You keep on missing the point that they are attacking us because we reduced there nations to rubble.
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that may be a minor factor but not the main one
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Which nation ? They don't know what they re even fighting for ISIS. They are just pure evil wanting to cause terror, butcher people, control people, rape women ! Destroy historical sites which are thousands of years old. Nutters !
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they are fighting for an islamic state which is pretty clear to everyone
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Haha.. an Islamic state. But they aren't religious, they are murdering basstards. They slaughter their own too.
What will they do then once they have this paradise ?
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Of course they are religious. they will continue with the aim they set out. Expand through force like the previous caliphates
posted on 2/7/15
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 55 seconds ago
Germany inspired and sponsored jihad in the Middle East in the late 19th Century in order that the "Muslim brotherhood" drive the British out of the colonies, such that Germany could then occupy.
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What does Jihad mean?
posted on 2/7/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
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Come on, Muslims are everywhere in the UK, and people aren't scared of them.
People are scared of extremists, not Muslims.
posted on 2/7/15
"and will soon be sending our soldiers into battle with pea-shooters, and chartering Ryanair planes to do the bombing."
Source?
posted on 2/7/15
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 55 seconds ago
Germany inspired and sponsored jihad in the Middle East in the late 19th Century in order that the "Muslim brotherhood" drive the British out of the colonies, such that Germany could then occupy.
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What does Jihad mean?
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Holy war
posted on 2/7/15
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
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You keep on missing the point that they are attacking us because we reduced there nations to rubble.
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They've been killing each other forever, long before we got involved.
posted on 2/7/15
comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 1 minute ago
Bomb them all.
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Who's them all?
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If?
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Maybe?
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How?
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Then?
posted on 2/7/15
"You keep on missing the point that they are attacking us because we reduced there nations to rubble."
If it is nationalistic, how does that explain the attacker in Tunisia or the amount of Brits going to fight with them?
The radicalised youth are attacking because, for whatever reason, they believe they will be rewarded for doing so and are willing to die for what they perceive to be their religion.
It is monumentally stupid to not include that in the debate.
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