comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 32 seconds ago
to say this is not to do with islam is simply incorrect
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Was Breiviks actions consistent with Christianity? What about the KKK?
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considering islamic state are following the quran correctly or incorrectly shows it is do with with islam
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comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 1 minute ago
Bomb them all.
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Who's them all?
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Why?
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When?
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If?
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And?
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Maybe?
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How?
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But?
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So?
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Then?
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What?
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ok we get it now
shut up
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Therefore?
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you win
well done
have a fa cking medal
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 15 seconds ago
ISIS is essentially involved in a land and resource grab. That is what their masters want them to do. Turkey another of our allies sat back and let ISIS butcher kurds because it suits their agenda.
As far as I am concerned we should not get involved. Use our resources to improve our security and the livelihood of Britain.
When the ME wants to deal with ISIS, we can provide assistance and aid
Nothing more
Question for you guys though. Why have these fanatics not attacked Scandinavian nations or Germany for that matter.
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The more we sit back, the stronger the beast could become, and the larger risk of destruction from within the UK.
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That is the argument that led us into Iraq
ISIS is the result
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But Saddam is gone
many a terrorist plot has been foiled in Germany in the last few years as has in France, Uk .
Obviously UK being involved in the war in Iraq and biggest US ally and Israel's is to do somewhat.
However that gunmen in Tunisia didn't know what nationality he was shooting. he just wanted to kill mainly European holidaymakers
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posted 0 seconds ago
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posted 33 seconds ago
comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 1 minute ago
Bomb them all.
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Who's them all?
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Why?
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When?
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If?
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And?
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Maybe?
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How?
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But?
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So?
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Then?
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What?
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ok we get it now
shut up
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Therefore?
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Sadness?
I don't think people are asking Muslims to denounce IS, I think people are more asking whether the Muslim community is doing enough to stop the radicalisation of young people.
There are two things to fix, not just one. What to do about foreign policy and what to do about a distortion of a faith. The latter can't be fixed by changing foreign policy as the underlying capacity will still be there.
Regardless of who started this beef.
Regardless of the fact that it will never end.
There will be an atrocity so bad that Britain will probably help wipe out Raqqa killing IS members as well as civilians.
To argue for or against is pointless.
Can't we just wall them all out, and if they try to make a fuss just bomb them?
Surely that would be the easiest resolution for all involved.
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comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
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Come on, Muslims are everywhere in the UK, and people aren't scared of them.
People are scared of extremists, not Muslims.
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Then why are they asking Muslims to denounce ISIS?
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Because these people are also Muslims, yes they follow the Quran to the letter but they are still Muslims and that denunciation would go a long way to helping Muslims in the UK.
What I'm saying people aren't afraid to walk the streets of the UK because of Muslims, although there is certainly an issue with segregation in large parts.
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Busby
It's MUSLIMS that are being recruited by IS, that is why MUSLIMS need to denounce them.
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So are all catholics responsible for the paedos.
Can one of the non Muslims on here who pretend to know so much about Islam, that they are able attribute the actions of groups in the middle-east to Islamic practice explain this to me....
As well all Know Muhammad (pbuh) is the Prophet of Muslims and our teacher.
Now taking into consideration all the Christians killed in Iraq etc read this....
“This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them. Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them.
No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries.
No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims’ houses. Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God’s covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate.
No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray.
Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants. No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world).”
How is it after reading that you can still attribut the killing of Christians amongst other things to Islam.
That is a command from a man that all Muslims proclaim to follow. There is no room for a different interpretation from that letter, it's pretty clear!
I need an explanation lads.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
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Come on, Muslims are everywhere in the UK, and people aren't scared of them.
People are scared of extremists, not Muslims.
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Then why are they asking Muslims to denounce ISIS?
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Because these people are also Muslims, yes they follow the Quran to the letter but they are still Muslims and that denunciation would go a long way to helping Muslims in the UK.
What I'm saying people aren't afraid to walk the streets of the UK because of Muslims, although there is certainly an issue with segregation in large parts.
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Busby
It's MUSLIMS that are being recruited by IS, that is why MUSLIMS need to denounce them.
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So are all catholics responsible for the paedos.
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did they do it in the name of Christianity?
No but all Catholics should feel a moral obligation to ensure they are found culpable surely?
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
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Come on, Muslims are everywhere in the UK, and people aren't scared of them.
People are scared of extremists, not Muslims.
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Then why are they asking Muslims to denounce ISIS?
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Because these people are also Muslims, yes they follow the Quran to the letter but they are still Muslims and that denunciation would go a long way to helping Muslims in the UK.
What I'm saying people aren't afraid to walk the streets of the UK because of Muslims, although there is certainly an issue with segregation in large parts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Busby
It's MUSLIMS that are being recruited by IS, that is why MUSLIMS need to denounce them.
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So are all catholics responsible for the paedos.
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No, but the Caothlic church speak out against them... which is exactly the point being made.
Britain cannot afford the bombs and fighter jets any more. As has been the case for over four hundred years, Britain wants it's empire - but strictly on the cheap.
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 32 seconds ago
to say this is not to do with islam is simply incorrect
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Was Breiviks actions consistent with Christianity? What about the KKK?
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considering islamic state are following the quran correctly or incorrectly shows it is do with with islam
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Do you know what Islam means? Or what the term Muslim means?
By your logic since throw ins are allowed in football. Someone taking the ball and holding it in his hands and throwing it in the goal is football, right?
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 51 seconds ago
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posted 2 seconds ago
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posted 8 seconds ago
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posted 29 seconds ago
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posted 2 seconds ago
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posted 6 minutes ago
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posted 6 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 4 seconds ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
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posted 20 seconds ago
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posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 1 minute ago
Bomb them all.
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Who's them all?
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Why?
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When?
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If?
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And?
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Maybe?
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How?
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But?
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So?
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Then?
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What?
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ok we get it now
shut up
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Therefore?
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Sadness?
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Melancholy?
comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 42 seconds ago
Can't we just wall them all out, and if they try to make a fuss just bomb them?
Surely that would be the easiest resolution for all involved.
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Why you so trigger happy flash boy?
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 20 seconds ago
No but all Catholics should feel a moral obligation to ensure they are found culpable surely?
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Agreed, but was it the Catholic faith that taught them to be paedos?
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 32 seconds ago
to say this is not to do with islam is simply incorrect
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Was Breiviks actions consistent with Christianity? What about the KKK?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
considering islamic state are following the quran correctly or incorrectly shows it is do with with islam
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you know what Islam means? Or what the term Muslim means?
By your logic since throw ins are allowed in football. Someone taking the ball and holding it in his hands and throwing it in the goal is football, right?
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that logic is bs and you know it
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 54 seconds ago
Can one of the non Muslims on here who pretend to know so much about Islam, that they are able attribute the actions of groups in the middle-east to Islamic practice explain this to me....
As well all Know Muhammad (pbuh) is the Prophet of Muslims and our teacher.
Now taking into consideration all the Christians killed in Iraq etc read this....
“This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them. Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them.
No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries.
No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims’ houses. Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God’s covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate.
No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray.
Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants. No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world).”
How is it after reading that you can still attribut the killing of Christians amongst other things to Islam.
That is a command from a man that all Muslims proclaim to follow. There is no room for a different interpretation from that letter, it's pretty clear!
I need an explanation lads.
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The Qu'ran (as translated and distributed by Germany in the 19th century) also states that 'all infidels must be slain'
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Come on, Muslims are everywhere in the UK, and people aren't scared of them.
People are scared of extremists, not Muslims.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then why are they asking Muslims to denounce ISIS?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because these people are also Muslims, yes they follow the Quran to the letter but they are still Muslims and that denunciation would go a long way to helping Muslims in the UK.
What I'm saying people aren't afraid to walk the streets of the UK because of Muslims, although there is certainly an issue with segregation in large parts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Busby
It's MUSLIMS that are being recruited by IS, that is why MUSLIMS need to denounce them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So are all catholics responsible for the paedos.
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No, but the Caothlic church speak out against them... which is exactly the point being made.
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Muslims speak out against isis but is not reported ad much as their activities.
Why is that?
"did they do it in the name of Christianity? "
Oh grow up, if I started a club called "The ManU supporteds rape and murder club" that only invited ManU fans to be members, would it be a true reflection of Manchester United FC or its fans. No it wouldn't (I hope).
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Come on, Muslims are everywhere in the UK, and people aren't scared of them.
People are scared of extremists, not Muslims.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then why are they asking Muslims to denounce ISIS?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because these people are also Muslims, yes they follow the Quran to the letter but they are still Muslims and that denunciation would go a long way to helping Muslims in the UK.
What I'm saying people aren't afraid to walk the streets of the UK because of Muslims, although there is certainly an issue with segregation in large parts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Busby
It's MUSLIMS that are being recruited by IS, that is why MUSLIMS need to denounce them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So are all catholics responsible for the paedos.
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No, but the Caothlic church speak out against them... which is exactly the point being made.
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Which they should
I've also heard mosque or Islamic spokes people speak out against terrorism
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
Why do you like to rewrite history to fit into your agenda?
Isreal were not created by the West. They were simply allowed to return home. Soon you will deny there was any dispersion of the Jews by the Roman General Titus.
Do you realise that if Israel does not belong to the Middle East, then the whole basis of your religion is flawed - as in its connection with Abraham.
DO you also realise that Jews are mentioned in the Quran? Why would they be mentioned if they did not exist in the Middle East?
It's time to let go of the past and to focus on the future. The future is a 2 state solution. Either this or continuous war.
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 42 seconds ago
Can't we just wall them all out, and if they try to make a fuss just bomb them?
Surely that would be the easiest resolution for all involved.
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Why you so trigger happy flash boy?
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I'm just bored of them. That whole region is like one big swarm of midges. Incredibly annoying, of no benefit to the world and best dealt with with a blow torch.
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posted on 2/7/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 32 seconds ago
to say this is not to do with islam is simply incorrect
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Was Breiviks actions consistent with Christianity? What about the KKK?
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considering islamic state are following the quran correctly or incorrectly shows it is do with with islam
posted on 2/7/15
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posted 2 minutes ago
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comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 1 minute ago
Bomb them all.
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Who's them all?
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Why?
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When?
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If?
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And?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe?
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How?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then?
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What?
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ok we get it now
shut up
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Therefore?
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you win
well done
have a fa cking medal
posted on 2/7/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 15 seconds ago
ISIS is essentially involved in a land and resource grab. That is what their masters want them to do. Turkey another of our allies sat back and let ISIS butcher kurds because it suits their agenda.
As far as I am concerned we should not get involved. Use our resources to improve our security and the livelihood of Britain.
When the ME wants to deal with ISIS, we can provide assistance and aid
Nothing more
Question for you guys though. Why have these fanatics not attacked Scandinavian nations or Germany for that matter.
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The more we sit back, the stronger the beast could become, and the larger risk of destruction from within the UK.
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That is the argument that led us into Iraq
ISIS is the result
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But Saddam is gone
posted on 2/7/15
many a terrorist plot has been foiled in Germany in the last few years as has in France, Uk .
Obviously UK being involved in the war in Iraq and biggest US ally and Israel's is to do somewhat.
However that gunmen in Tunisia didn't know what nationality he was shooting. he just wanted to kill mainly European holidaymakers
posted on 2/7/15
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comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 1 minute ago
Bomb them all.
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Who's them all?
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Why?
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When?
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If?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But?
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So?
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Then?
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What?
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ok we get it now
shut up
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Therefore?
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Sadness?
posted on 2/7/15
I don't think people are asking Muslims to denounce IS, I think people are more asking whether the Muslim community is doing enough to stop the radicalisation of young people.
There are two things to fix, not just one. What to do about foreign policy and what to do about a distortion of a faith. The latter can't be fixed by changing foreign policy as the underlying capacity will still be there.
posted on 2/7/15
Regardless of who started this beef.
Regardless of the fact that it will never end.
There will be an atrocity so bad that Britain will probably help wipe out Raqqa killing IS members as well as civilians.
To argue for or against is pointless.
posted on 2/7/15
Can't we just wall them all out, and if they try to make a fuss just bomb them?
Surely that would be the easiest resolution for all involved.
posted on 2/7/15
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You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
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Come on, Muslims are everywhere in the UK, and people aren't scared of them.
People are scared of extremists, not Muslims.
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Then why are they asking Muslims to denounce ISIS?
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Because these people are also Muslims, yes they follow the Quran to the letter but they are still Muslims and that denunciation would go a long way to helping Muslims in the UK.
What I'm saying people aren't afraid to walk the streets of the UK because of Muslims, although there is certainly an issue with segregation in large parts.
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Busby
It's MUSLIMS that are being recruited by IS, that is why MUSLIMS need to denounce them.
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So are all catholics responsible for the paedos.
posted on 2/7/15
Can one of the non Muslims on here who pretend to know so much about Islam, that they are able attribute the actions of groups in the middle-east to Islamic practice explain this to me....
As well all Know Muhammad (pbuh) is the Prophet of Muslims and our teacher.
Now taking into consideration all the Christians killed in Iraq etc read this....
“This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them. Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them.
No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries.
No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims’ houses. Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God’s covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate.
No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray.
Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants. No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world).”
How is it after reading that you can still attribut the killing of Christians amongst other things to Islam.
That is a command from a man that all Muslims proclaim to follow. There is no room for a different interpretation from that letter, it's pretty clear!
I need an explanation lads.
posted on 2/7/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
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posted 2 minutes ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
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Come on, Muslims are everywhere in the UK, and people aren't scared of them.
People are scared of extremists, not Muslims.
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Then why are they asking Muslims to denounce ISIS?
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Because these people are also Muslims, yes they follow the Quran to the letter but they are still Muslims and that denunciation would go a long way to helping Muslims in the UK.
What I'm saying people aren't afraid to walk the streets of the UK because of Muslims, although there is certainly an issue with segregation in large parts.
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Busby
It's MUSLIMS that are being recruited by IS, that is why MUSLIMS need to denounce them.
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So are all catholics responsible for the paedos.
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did they do it in the name of Christianity?
posted on 2/7/15
No but all Catholics should feel a moral obligation to ensure they are found culpable surely?
posted on 2/7/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
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comment by Busby (U19985)
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comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
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Come on, Muslims are everywhere in the UK, and people aren't scared of them.
People are scared of extremists, not Muslims.
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Then why are they asking Muslims to denounce ISIS?
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Because these people are also Muslims, yes they follow the Quran to the letter but they are still Muslims and that denunciation would go a long way to helping Muslims in the UK.
What I'm saying people aren't afraid to walk the streets of the UK because of Muslims, although there is certainly an issue with segregation in large parts.
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Busby
It's MUSLIMS that are being recruited by IS, that is why MUSLIMS need to denounce them.
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So are all catholics responsible for the paedos.
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No, but the Caothlic church speak out against them... which is exactly the point being made.
posted on 2/7/15
Britain cannot afford the bombs and fighter jets any more. As has been the case for over four hundred years, Britain wants it's empire - but strictly on the cheap.
posted on 2/7/15
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to say this is not to do with islam is simply incorrect
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Was Breiviks actions consistent with Christianity? What about the KKK?
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considering islamic state are following the quran correctly or incorrectly shows it is do with with islam
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Do you know what Islam means? Or what the term Muslim means?
By your logic since throw ins are allowed in football. Someone taking the ball and holding it in his hands and throwing it in the goal is football, right?
posted on 2/7/15
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comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
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Bomb them all.
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Who's them all?
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ok we get it now
shut up
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Sadness?
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Melancholy?
posted on 2/7/15
comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 42 seconds ago
Can't we just wall them all out, and if they try to make a fuss just bomb them?
Surely that would be the easiest resolution for all involved.
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Why you so trigger happy flash boy?
posted on 2/7/15
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 20 seconds ago
No but all Catholics should feel a moral obligation to ensure they are found culpable surely?
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Agreed, but was it the Catholic faith that taught them to be paedos?
posted on 2/7/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
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comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 32 seconds ago
to say this is not to do with islam is simply incorrect
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Was Breiviks actions consistent with Christianity? What about the KKK?
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considering islamic state are following the quran correctly or incorrectly shows it is do with with islam
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Do you know what Islam means? Or what the term Muslim means?
By your logic since throw ins are allowed in football. Someone taking the ball and holding it in his hands and throwing it in the goal is football, right?
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that logic is bs and you know it
posted on 2/7/15
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 54 seconds ago
Can one of the non Muslims on here who pretend to know so much about Islam, that they are able attribute the actions of groups in the middle-east to Islamic practice explain this to me....
As well all Know Muhammad (pbuh) is the Prophet of Muslims and our teacher.
Now taking into consideration all the Christians killed in Iraq etc read this....
“This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them. Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them.
No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries.
No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims’ houses. Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God’s covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate.
No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray.
Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants. No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world).”
How is it after reading that you can still attribut the killing of Christians amongst other things to Islam.
That is a command from a man that all Muslims proclaim to follow. There is no room for a different interpretation from that letter, it's pretty clear!
I need an explanation lads.
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The Qu'ran (as translated and distributed by Germany in the 19th century) also states that 'all infidels must be slain'
posted on 2/7/15
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
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posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Come on, Muslims are everywhere in the UK, and people aren't scared of them.
People are scared of extremists, not Muslims.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then why are they asking Muslims to denounce ISIS?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because these people are also Muslims, yes they follow the Quran to the letter but they are still Muslims and that denunciation would go a long way to helping Muslims in the UK.
What I'm saying people aren't afraid to walk the streets of the UK because of Muslims, although there is certainly an issue with segregation in large parts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Busby
It's MUSLIMS that are being recruited by IS, that is why MUSLIMS need to denounce them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So are all catholics responsible for the paedos.
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No, but the Caothlic church speak out against them... which is exactly the point being made.
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Muslims speak out against isis but is not reported ad much as their activities.
Why is that?
posted on 2/7/15
"did they do it in the name of Christianity? "
Oh grow up, if I started a club called "The ManU supporteds rape and murder club" that only invited ManU fans to be members, would it be a true reflection of Manchester United FC or its fans. No it wouldn't (I hope).
posted on 2/7/15
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Come on, Muslims are everywhere in the UK, and people aren't scared of them.
People are scared of extremists, not Muslims.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then why are they asking Muslims to denounce ISIS?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because these people are also Muslims, yes they follow the Quran to the letter but they are still Muslims and that denunciation would go a long way to helping Muslims in the UK.
What I'm saying people aren't afraid to walk the streets of the UK because of Muslims, although there is certainly an issue with segregation in large parts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Busby
It's MUSLIMS that are being recruited by IS, that is why MUSLIMS need to denounce them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So are all catholics responsible for the paedos.
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No, but the Caothlic church speak out against them... which is exactly the point being made.
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Which they should
I've also heard mosque or Islamic spokes people speak out against terrorism
posted on 2/7/15
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
Why do you like to rewrite history to fit into your agenda?
Isreal were not created by the West. They were simply allowed to return home. Soon you will deny there was any dispersion of the Jews by the Roman General Titus.
Do you realise that if Israel does not belong to the Middle East, then the whole basis of your religion is flawed - as in its connection with Abraham.
DO you also realise that Jews are mentioned in the Quran? Why would they be mentioned if they did not exist in the Middle East?
It's time to let go of the past and to focus on the future. The future is a 2 state solution. Either this or continuous war.
posted on 2/7/15
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 42 seconds ago
Can't we just wall them all out, and if they try to make a fuss just bomb them?
Surely that would be the easiest resolution for all involved.
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Why you so trigger happy flash boy?
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I'm just bored of them. That whole region is like one big swarm of midges. Incredibly annoying, of no benefit to the world and best dealt with with a blow torch.
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