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comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 36 seconds ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
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Exactly. Why KFC sees any discussion of IS as an insult to him is beyond me.
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I don't, if you actually pay attention to any of my posts are am purposefully targeting those that attribute there actions to Islamic practice.
I've spent a lot of time on these threads using Islamic evidence as to how they are not practicing Islam.
All of this has seemed to of gone over people's heads and they now think that i feel there actions are absolved because of our foreign policy.
Some people clearly can't read within context.
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Islam is not the same as IS, we know this. IS uses Islam as a basis for it's activities and aims.
ISIS is essentially involved in a land and resource grab. That is what their masters want them to do. Turkey another of our allies sat back and let ISIS butcher kurds because it suits their agenda.
As far as I am concerned we should not get involved. Use our resources to improve our security and the livelihood of Britain.
When the ME wants to deal with ISIS, we can provide assistance and aid
Nothing more
Question for you guys though. Why have these fanatics not attacked Scandinavian nations or Germany for that matter.
comment by Wessie Road (U10652)
posted 11 seconds ago
If we can’t stop people from places like Leeds and Luton from becoming radicalised and attacking us, I don’t know why we think we can police regions like the Middle East, especially when we cut the military budget every year, and will soon be sending our soldiers into battle with pea-shooters, and chartering Ryanair planes to do the bombing.
The USA is the most militarised country on earth, by some distance, but they can’t do it either, because they don’t have the stomach to sort out the messes they create. To turn Iraq into a stable democracy with a strong military and Police to protect it, we’d probably have had to stay another 20 years or so, but eventually we get sick of our soldiers coming home in body-bags and pull out, leaving a bigger mess than the one we attacked in the first place.
IS have filled a power vacuum that we created, so how do we break out of this vicious circle, and when are we going to learn that every time we interfere, we create thousands more terrorists?
On a regular basis, somebody walks into a public building in America and shoots up the occupants of it, even when they are schoolchildren, and if we can’t get to the bottom of the sense of alienation that drives this pyschopathic behaviour, why on earth do we think we can go to countries we don’t understand, with grinding poverty and makeshift power structures, and sort it out there?
The standard profile of these radicalised individuals is that they show little sign of the direction they are heading, and then get radicalised within six months and go mental. That mental-case in Tunisia was typical in that he showed no real sign of any interest in Islam until he was attracted by the nut-job, radicalised version of it, and once that happens, the full conversion to pyscopath seems to typically take only a few months.
The last place to go looking for somebody who might undergo such a rapid conversion appears to be in mosques, because they typically do not show any interest in religion beforehand.
The people of Tunisia appear to be as appalled by his actions as we are, so we have plenty of allies in these regions, it’s just that they don’t remain allies for very long after we’ve decided to bomb them, because we’re not capable of identifying radicalised psychopaths and bombing them with surgical precision. There is going to be a fair amount of ‘collateral damage’ as well., and we end up killing people whose families might have supported us.
So what would help more, in a place like Tunisia, is if we provide infrastructure and support for the people there to identify the problem and protect themselves from it. Aid is cheaper and more effective than bombs, as the Chinese are currently demonstrating by investing and making friends all around the world.
But it would help if we were capable of identifying the problem in our own countries first.
We are too focussed on the nutjob tribes and causes they are attracted to, and not enough on why they are attracted to them, so once you’ve expended lives and fortunes on eradicating these tribes, they just switch to another one.
Al Qaeda becomes IS, becomes something else, it’s an endless vicious circle, and when schoolchildren get shot up in America, it is not usually in the name of any particular ideology, and there’s just a pointless debate about gun-control, which the gun lobby always wins, before carrying on as if nothing happened, because we don't know which tribe to bomb.
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Good post
Kung Fu's whole argument hinges on this nonsense about them not being Muslims. His argument is equivalent to the family of a white person who killed 500 black people due to the colour of their skin claiming that the killer wasn't racist because there are other white people who do think that killing people based on skin colour is racist.
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
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Come on, Muslims are everywhere in the UK, and people aren't scared of them.
People are scared of extremists, not Muslims.
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Then why are they asking Muslims to denounce ISIS?
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"I've spent a lot of time on these threads using Islamic evidence as to how they are not practicing Islam."
Yet they pray to the same god as all other Muslims when standing over their severed heads.
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ok we get it now
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comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 29 seconds ago
The conflict between Shias and Muslim is because of a different "type" of Islam. It's routes are political as well, it goes back to the first Calipha after the death of Muhammad pbuh.
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Long before any involvement of the West, yes?
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Absolutely VC!
This in fighting was the situation before the middle-east was carved I like a cake by us Brits as well.
Guess what, it still wasn't a land rife with corruption and murder. Imagine that.
All of this happened after we drew the borders in the Middle East, paying no attention to ethnic divides etc.
With then helped create Israel.
VC I your opinion what do you think the Middle East would look like if we never drew those borders or helped create Israel.
What do you think that region would look like? No how many attacks like the one in Tunusia would we see if we just returned to our borders?
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to say this is not to do with islam is simply incorrect
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posted 1 minute ago
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You keep on missing the point that they are attacking us because we reduced there nations to rubble.
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So, those people on the beach were shot because someone the same colour as them killed some brown people (as they're the only similarities I can see) ? Or did the "brave freedom fighters" think that the people on the beach had carried out murders and deserved it?
Using that logic, any brownish in Britain should be scared of every white person, because now the whiteys can justify killing brown people as their revenge on behalf of the dead on the beach.
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Was every victim 'white'? I've heard no report of the ethnicity of any of them.
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No religion = a much better world to live in.
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we can all dream
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And you can carry on dreaming if you think people in the Middle East wouldn't attack us if they were atheist.
You keep on missing the point that they are attacking us because we reduced there nations to rubble.
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that may be a minor factor but not the main one
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Which nation ? They don't know what they re even fighting for ISIS. They are just pure evil wanting to cause terror, butcher people, control people, rape women ! Destroy historical sites which are thousands of years old. Nutters !
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they are fighting for an islamic state which is pretty clear to everyone
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Haha.. an Islamic state. But they aren't religious, they are murdering basstards. They slaughter their own too.
What will they do then once they have this paradise ?
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Of course they are religious. they will continue with the aim they set out. Expand through force like the previous caliphates
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How can they be religious ? I keep getting told by religious muslims it's nothing to do with islam or being muslim yet you say they are. Does this religion therefore allow butchery, murder, ethnic cleansing, rape of women and children, child soldiers, public beheadings, destroying ancient artefacts.
Barbarians and pure evil. Lunatics is what they are !
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 15 seconds ago
ISIS is essentially involved in a land and resource grab. That is what their masters want them to do. Turkey another of our allies sat back and let ISIS butcher kurds because it suits their agenda.
As far as I am concerned we should not get involved. Use our resources to improve our security and the livelihood of Britain.
When the ME wants to deal with ISIS, we can provide assistance and aid
Nothing more
Question for you guys though. Why have these fanatics not attacked Scandinavian nations or Germany for that matter.
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The more we sit back, the stronger the beast could become, and the larger risk of destruction from within the UK.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 54 seconds ago
"I've spent a lot of time on these threads using Islamic evidence as to how they are not practicing Islam."
Yet they pray to the same god as all other Muslims when standing over their severed heads.
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How do you know they pray?
Some of them are going over there with Islam for dummies books.
How do you know they are not just there for the power?
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Bomb them all.
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ok we get it now
shut up
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comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
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to say this is not to do with islam is simply incorrect
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Was Breiviks actions consistent with Christianity? What about the KKK?
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comment by Busby (U19985)
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comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
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Come on, Muslims are everywhere in the UK, and people aren't scared of them.
People are scared of extremists, not Muslims.
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Then why are they asking Muslims to denounce ISIS?
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Because these people are also Muslims, yes they follow the Quran to the letter but they are still Muslims and that denunciation would go a long way to helping Muslims in the UK.
What I'm saying people aren't afraid to walk the streets of the UK because of Muslims, although there is certainly an issue with segregation in large parts.
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
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comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 29 seconds ago
The conflict between Shias and Muslim is because of a different "type" of Islam. It's routes are political as well, it goes back to the first Calipha after the death of Muhammad pbuh.
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Long before any involvement of the West, yes?
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Absolutely VC!
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So, we don't need to here from you anymore about how this is all the fault of the West.
At last.
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ok we get it now
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comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 15 seconds ago
ISIS is essentially involved in a land and resource grab. That is what their masters want them to do. Turkey another of our allies sat back and let ISIS butcher kurds because it suits their agenda.
As far as I am concerned we should not get involved. Use our resources to improve our security and the livelihood of Britain.
When the ME wants to deal with ISIS, we can provide assistance and aid
Nothing more
Question for you guys though. Why have these fanatics not attacked Scandinavian nations or Germany for that matter.
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The more we sit back, the stronger the beast could become, and the larger risk of destruction from within the UK.
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That is the argument that led us into Iraq
ISIS is the result
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comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
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Come on, Muslims are everywhere in the UK, and people aren't scared of them.
People are scared of extremists, not Muslims.
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Then why are they asking Muslims to denounce ISIS?
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Because these people are also Muslims, yes they follow the Quran to the letter but they are still Muslims and that denunciation would go a long way to helping Muslims in the UK.
What I'm saying people aren't afraid to walk the streets of the UK because of Muslims, although there is certainly an issue with segregation in large parts.
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Busby
It's MUSLIMS that are being recruited by IS, that is why MUSLIMS need to denounce them.
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comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 36 seconds ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
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Exactly. Why KFC sees any discussion of IS as an insult to him is beyond me.
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I don't, if you actually pay attention to any of my posts are am purposefully targeting those that attribute there actions to Islamic practice.
I've spent a lot of time on these threads using Islamic evidence as to how they are not practicing Islam.
All of this has seemed to of gone over people's heads and they now think that i feel there actions are absolved because of our foreign policy.
Some people clearly can't read within context.
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Islam is not the same as IS, we know this. IS uses Islam as a basis for it's activities and aims.
posted on 2/7/15
ISIS is essentially involved in a land and resource grab. That is what their masters want them to do. Turkey another of our allies sat back and let ISIS butcher kurds because it suits their agenda.
As far as I am concerned we should not get involved. Use our resources to improve our security and the livelihood of Britain.
When the ME wants to deal with ISIS, we can provide assistance and aid
Nothing more
Question for you guys though. Why have these fanatics not attacked Scandinavian nations or Germany for that matter.
posted on 2/7/15
Terrorism is naughty.
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comment by Wessie Road (U10652)
posted 11 seconds ago
If we can’t stop people from places like Leeds and Luton from becoming radicalised and attacking us, I don’t know why we think we can police regions like the Middle East, especially when we cut the military budget every year, and will soon be sending our soldiers into battle with pea-shooters, and chartering Ryanair planes to do the bombing.
The USA is the most militarised country on earth, by some distance, but they can’t do it either, because they don’t have the stomach to sort out the messes they create. To turn Iraq into a stable democracy with a strong military and Police to protect it, we’d probably have had to stay another 20 years or so, but eventually we get sick of our soldiers coming home in body-bags and pull out, leaving a bigger mess than the one we attacked in the first place.
IS have filled a power vacuum that we created, so how do we break out of this vicious circle, and when are we going to learn that every time we interfere, we create thousands more terrorists?
On a regular basis, somebody walks into a public building in America and shoots up the occupants of it, even when they are schoolchildren, and if we can’t get to the bottom of the sense of alienation that drives this pyschopathic behaviour, why on earth do we think we can go to countries we don’t understand, with grinding poverty and makeshift power structures, and sort it out there?
The standard profile of these radicalised individuals is that they show little sign of the direction they are heading, and then get radicalised within six months and go mental. That mental-case in Tunisia was typical in that he showed no real sign of any interest in Islam until he was attracted by the nut-job, radicalised version of it, and once that happens, the full conversion to pyscopath seems to typically take only a few months.
The last place to go looking for somebody who might undergo such a rapid conversion appears to be in mosques, because they typically do not show any interest in religion beforehand.
The people of Tunisia appear to be as appalled by his actions as we are, so we have plenty of allies in these regions, it’s just that they don’t remain allies for very long after we’ve decided to bomb them, because we’re not capable of identifying radicalised psychopaths and bombing them with surgical precision. There is going to be a fair amount of ‘collateral damage’ as well., and we end up killing people whose families might have supported us.
So what would help more, in a place like Tunisia, is if we provide infrastructure and support for the people there to identify the problem and protect themselves from it. Aid is cheaper and more effective than bombs, as the Chinese are currently demonstrating by investing and making friends all around the world.
But it would help if we were capable of identifying the problem in our own countries first.
We are too focussed on the nutjob tribes and causes they are attracted to, and not enough on why they are attracted to them, so once you’ve expended lives and fortunes on eradicating these tribes, they just switch to another one.
Al Qaeda becomes IS, becomes something else, it’s an endless vicious circle, and when schoolchildren get shot up in America, it is not usually in the name of any particular ideology, and there’s just a pointless debate about gun-control, which the gun lobby always wins, before carrying on as if nothing happened, because we don't know which tribe to bomb.
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Good post
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Kung Fu's whole argument hinges on this nonsense about them not being Muslims. His argument is equivalent to the family of a white person who killed 500 black people due to the colour of their skin claiming that the killer wasn't racist because there are other white people who do think that killing people based on skin colour is racist.
posted on 2/7/15
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
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Come on, Muslims are everywhere in the UK, and people aren't scared of them.
People are scared of extremists, not Muslims.
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Then why are they asking Muslims to denounce ISIS?
posted on 2/7/15
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Bomb them all.
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posted on 2/7/15
"I've spent a lot of time on these threads using Islamic evidence as to how they are not practicing Islam."
Yet they pray to the same god as all other Muslims when standing over their severed heads.
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Bomb them all.
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posted on 2/7/15
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Bomb them all.
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posted on 2/7/15
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Bomb them all.
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ok we get it now
shut up
posted on 2/7/15
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 29 seconds ago
The conflict between Shias and Muslim is because of a different "type" of Islam. It's routes are political as well, it goes back to the first Calipha after the death of Muhammad pbuh.
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Long before any involvement of the West, yes?
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Absolutely VC!
This in fighting was the situation before the middle-east was carved I like a cake by us Brits as well.
Guess what, it still wasn't a land rife with corruption and murder. Imagine that.
All of this happened after we drew the borders in the Middle East, paying no attention to ethnic divides etc.
With then helped create Israel.
VC I your opinion what do you think the Middle East would look like if we never drew those borders or helped create Israel.
What do you think that region would look like? No how many attacks like the one in Tunusia would we see if we just returned to our borders?
posted on 2/7/15
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Bomb them all.
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posted on 2/7/15
to say this is not to do with islam is simply incorrect
posted on 2/7/15
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
..............
You keep on missing the point that they are attacking us because we reduced there nations to rubble.
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So, those people on the beach were shot because someone the same colour as them killed some brown people (as they're the only similarities I can see) ? Or did the "brave freedom fighters" think that the people on the beach had carried out murders and deserved it?
Using that logic, any brownish in Britain should be scared of every white person, because now the whiteys can justify killing brown people as their revenge on behalf of the dead on the beach.
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Was every victim 'white'? I've heard no report of the ethnicity of any of them.
posted on 2/7/15
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comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 1 minute ago
No religion = a much better world to live in.
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we can all dream
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And you can carry on dreaming if you think people in the Middle East wouldn't attack us if they were atheist.
You keep on missing the point that they are attacking us because we reduced there nations to rubble.
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that may be a minor factor but not the main one
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Which nation ? They don't know what they re even fighting for ISIS. They are just pure evil wanting to cause terror, butcher people, control people, rape women ! Destroy historical sites which are thousands of years old. Nutters !
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they are fighting for an islamic state which is pretty clear to everyone
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Haha.. an Islamic state. But they aren't religious, they are murdering basstards. They slaughter their own too.
What will they do then once they have this paradise ?
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Of course they are religious. they will continue with the aim they set out. Expand through force like the previous caliphates
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How can they be religious ? I keep getting told by religious muslims it's nothing to do with islam or being muslim yet you say they are. Does this religion therefore allow butchery, murder, ethnic cleansing, rape of women and children, child soldiers, public beheadings, destroying ancient artefacts.
Barbarians and pure evil. Lunatics is what they are !
posted on 2/7/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 15 seconds ago
ISIS is essentially involved in a land and resource grab. That is what their masters want them to do. Turkey another of our allies sat back and let ISIS butcher kurds because it suits their agenda.
As far as I am concerned we should not get involved. Use our resources to improve our security and the livelihood of Britain.
When the ME wants to deal with ISIS, we can provide assistance and aid
Nothing more
Question for you guys though. Why have these fanatics not attacked Scandinavian nations or Germany for that matter.
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The more we sit back, the stronger the beast could become, and the larger risk of destruction from within the UK.
posted on 2/7/15
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 54 seconds ago
"I've spent a lot of time on these threads using Islamic evidence as to how they are not practicing Islam."
Yet they pray to the same god as all other Muslims when standing over their severed heads.
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How do you know they pray?
Some of them are going over there with Islam for dummies books.
How do you know they are not just there for the power?
posted on 2/7/15
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comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 1 minute ago
Bomb them all.
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If?
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Maybe?
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How?
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ok we get it now
shut up
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posted on 2/7/15
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 32 seconds ago
to say this is not to do with islam is simply incorrect
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Was Breiviks actions consistent with Christianity? What about the KKK?
posted on 2/7/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
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Come on, Muslims are everywhere in the UK, and people aren't scared of them.
People are scared of extremists, not Muslims.
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Then why are they asking Muslims to denounce ISIS?
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Because these people are also Muslims, yes they follow the Quran to the letter but they are still Muslims and that denunciation would go a long way to helping Muslims in the UK.
What I'm saying people aren't afraid to walk the streets of the UK because of Muslims, although there is certainly an issue with segregation in large parts.
posted on 2/7/15
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 29 seconds ago
The conflict between Shias and Muslim is because of a different "type" of Islam. It's routes are political as well, it goes back to the first Calipha after the death of Muhammad pbuh.
...............
Long before any involvement of the West, yes?
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Absolutely VC!
..............
So, we don't need to here from you anymore about how this is all the fault of the West.
At last.
posted on 2/7/15
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 1 minute ago
Bomb them all.
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Why?
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When?
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If?
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And?
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Maybe?
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How?
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But?
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So?
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Then?
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What?
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ok we get it now
shut up
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Therefore?
posted on 2/7/15
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 15 seconds ago
ISIS is essentially involved in a land and resource grab. That is what their masters want them to do. Turkey another of our allies sat back and let ISIS butcher kurds because it suits their agenda.
As far as I am concerned we should not get involved. Use our resources to improve our security and the livelihood of Britain.
When the ME wants to deal with ISIS, we can provide assistance and aid
Nothing more
Question for you guys though. Why have these fanatics not attacked Scandinavian nations or Germany for that matter.
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The more we sit back, the stronger the beast could become, and the larger risk of destruction from within the UK.
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That is the argument that led us into Iraq
ISIS is the result
posted on 2/7/15
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
You guys are missing the point here. ISIS is not a muslim organisation but a group of lunatics. They are a well financed and well armed group of lunatics serving a purpose in a global conspiracy.
It is unfortunate to see a lot of people cannot see it.
I will give you a few tips;
1) The victims of ISIS are predominantly Muslim
2) The "hatred" of ISIS is now developing to a hatred of "muslims."
3) Our dear allies the Saudis fund ISIS, the killers of muslims and other folk
4) Media keeps you terrified of the "muslims" and their "religion" ignoring other forms of "terrorism"
5) It is standard propaganda, question I have for you guys is this, out there in the desert in 3rd world countries, how are these guys able to coordinate activities using the Internet with no power and infrastrcuture?
You are being played and you lap it up every time. It was the Jews before, then the blacks, now the muslims who are the victims of a vast majority of ISIS attacks and propaganda in the ME and abroad.
Tragic.
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Come on, Muslims are everywhere in the UK, and people aren't scared of them.
People are scared of extremists, not Muslims.
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Then why are they asking Muslims to denounce ISIS?
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Because these people are also Muslims, yes they follow the Quran to the letter but they are still Muslims and that denunciation would go a long way to helping Muslims in the UK.
What I'm saying people aren't afraid to walk the streets of the UK because of Muslims, although there is certainly an issue with segregation in large parts.
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Busby
It's MUSLIMS that are being recruited by IS, that is why MUSLIMS need to denounce them.
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