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posted on 2/7/15

comment by Hippo on Toast (mufc) - #freeraheem (U1301)
posted 59nn seconds ago
Well from the 100 threads we have commented on together VC you should have grasped that attacks would subside once we withdrew from the Middle East and stopped supporting the Saudis and Israelis
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spectacularly stupid and profoundly untrue.
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Based on what?

I have testimony from the killers themselves on my side.

Solid data from professors like Robert P@pe that prove the attacks against us are political.

What do you have on your side? The daily mail?

posted on 2/7/15

Or are you only outraged when Palestinians are killed by Jews?
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this

posted on 2/7/15

Probably because it's a complete reversal of history and evidence.

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No, it isn't.

You get long periods where nothing happens in Israel. then some ar sehole from Hamas startys firing rockets into Israel and then Israel retaliate.

I am quite sure you will now post something to justify what Hamas do. There isn't any justification, so don't bother.

posted on 2/7/15

comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 39 seconds ago
Like I have said before it's the poor people that suffer. Everytime Hamas sends a rocket into Israel it puts its so-called own people in severe danger due to an inevitable reprisal from Israel that has a right to protect its citizens.

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I can never understand why people don't understand this very simple concept.
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Probably because it's a complete reversal of history and evidence.

The ceasefires are almost without exception broken by Israel, not Hamas.
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Really? Israel has nothing to gain by breaking the cease fire.
Okay if you love the Palestinians so much, where is your outrage when ISIS liquidated the Yamouk camp near Damascus?
Or are you only outraged when Palestinians are killed by Jews?
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If there was an article condemning it then I'm sure I and others would be on there condemning it to.

On JA606 there are only article condemning Islam or the tortoises themselves which then turns into a debate which includes condemning islam.

posted on 2/7/15

There are two questions really and both have more contributing factors than western foreign policy. The first question is what has caused the current situation in the Middle East. The second is what causes young seemingly intelligent men to be radicalised to the extent they believe murdering people is not only not a crime, it is rewarded.

The first question absolutely foreign policy should come into the debate. The second, it's going to take a lot more than that just to stop it. The issue in the latter isn't that the blame is on something (there will always be something to blame), it is their willingness to do it.

posted on 2/7/15

This is the thing that gets me the most, when jihadis say that they carry out attacks due to UK/US foreign policy etc, etc... So are they suggesting seriously that if we just ignore them, they will stop fighting and committing terorism around the world?

posted on 2/7/15

comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)




posted 4 minutes ago



comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 32 seconds ago
And the army.

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Depends what army you are on about. The British army, for instance, encourages it's personnel to be able to think for themselves.
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I'm talking about the British army.

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Then you are talking without any knowledge of the British Army what so ever.

I bet you have read a few comments from the odd disgruntled soldier to draw your conclusion.

posted on 2/7/15

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
There are two questions really and both have more contributing factors than western foreign policy. The first question is what has caused the current situation in the Middle East. The second is what causes young seemingly intelligent men to be radicalised to the extent they believe murdering people is not only not a crime, it is rewarded.

The first question absolutely foreign policy should come into the debate. The second, it's going to take a lot more than that just to stop it. The issue in the latter isn't that the blame is on something (there will always be something to blame), it is their willingness to do it.
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Question 2 is scary... just how? I was reading an article on the 7/7 bombers yesterday... the "ringleader", Khan, worked as a classroom assistant in a school, helped at a youth club etc... baffling.

comment by mancini (U7179)

posted on 2/7/15

comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 39 seconds ago
Like I have said before it's the poor people that suffer. Everytime Hamas sends a rocket into Israel it puts its so-called own people in severe danger due to an inevitable reprisal from Israel that has a right to protect its citizens.

.................

I can never understand why people don't understand this very simple concept.
---------------

Probably because it's a complete reversal of history and evidence.

The ceasefires are almost without exception broken by Israel, not Hamas.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really? Israel has nothing to gain by breaking the cease fire.
Okay if you love the Palestinians so much, where is your outrage when ISIS liquidated the Yamouk camp near Damascus?
Or are you only outraged when Palestinians are killed by Jews?
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If there was an article condemning it then I'm sure I and others would be on there condemning it to.

On JA606 there are only article condemning Islam or the tortoises themselves which then turns into a debate which includes condemning islam.


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I have not seen an article condemning Islam on ja606.
Maybe we can criticize the attitude of some Muslims when there is an attack or in my case, praise the Tunisian response after the recent attack. I doubt anyone thinks or blames all Muslims for any act of terror. Certainly it is only and will ever be a minority of mad men who had access to guns causing all these troubles the world over.

posted on 2/7/15

comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 32 seconds ago
And the army.

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Depends what army you are on about. The British army, for instance, encourages it's personnel to be able to think for themselves.
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I'm talking about the British army.

Please refer to ex soldiers like Ben Griffin and joe Glenton who provide plenty of information on the crimes some soldiers commit.

Massive number of rapes against women soldiers within the army as well. More evidence of soldiers thinking for themselves.

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If you are going to come onto every article like this preaching that all of Islam should not be judged by the actions of a few, can you please start practicing what you preach in reverse and stop judging the entire British army and western world based on the actions of a few or what you have read from a biased source.

If you cannot live by the standards you are trying to condone, how do you expect others to?

posted on 2/7/15

Most armies in the world are manipulated to think a certain way
Most soldiers come from deprived uneducated backgrounds
They are merely pawns to be thrown into the front line
Soldiers are institutionalised and follow the agenda of their leaders
They believe what they are told and believe they are doing good
I'm saying this for most countries in this mess we call our world


posted on 2/7/15

Tamwolf

Welcome to the warped world of Kung Fu.

posted on 2/7/15

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 32 seconds ago
And the army.

................

Depends what army you are on about. The British army, for instance, encourages it's personnel to be able to think for themselves.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm talking about the British army.

Please refer to ex soldiers like Ben Griffin and joe Glenton who provide plenty of information on the crimes some soldiers commit.

Massive number of rapes against women soldiers within the army as well. More evidence of soldiers thinking for themselves.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

If you are going to come onto every article like this preaching that all of Islam should not be judged by the actions of a few, can you please start practicing what you preach in reverse and stop judging the entire British army and western world based on the actions of a few or what you have read from a biased source.

If you cannot live by the standards you are trying to condone, how do you expect others to?
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You can guarantee KFC will turn up on any article relating to the ME and completely distract from the main point.

posted on 2/7/15

comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)




posted 1 minute ago



Most armies in the world are manipulated to think a certain way
Most soldiers come from deprived uneducated backgrounds
They are merely pawns to be thrown into the front line
Soldiers are institutionalised and follow the agenda of their leaders
They believe what they are told and believe they are doing good
I'm saying this for most countries in this mess we call our world

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You have a great deal of knowledge of most of the worlds armies, do you?

posted on 2/7/15

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)




posted 1 minute ago



Most armies in the world are manipulated to think a certain way
Most soldiers come from deprived uneducated backgrounds
They are merely pawns to be thrown into the front line
Soldiers are institutionalised and follow the agenda of their leaders
They believe what they are told and believe they are doing good
I'm saying this for most countries in this mess we call our world

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You have a great deal of knowledge of most of the worlds armies, do you?
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Every country has it's own policy and the soldiers are manipulated to follow suit
They are institutionalised
I don't need knowledge of every army in the world to think this

posted on 2/7/15

comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 32 seconds ago
And the army.

................

Depends what army you are on about. The British army, for instance, encourages it's personnel to be able to think for themselves.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm talking about the British army.

Please refer to ex soldiers like Ben Griffin and joe Glenton who provide plenty of information on the crimes some soldiers commit.

Massive number of rapes against women soldiers within the army as well. More evidence of soldiers thinking for themselves.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

If you are going to come onto every article like this preaching that all of Islam should not be judged by the actions of a few, can you please start practicing what you preach in reverse and stop judging the entire British army and western world based on the actions of a few or what you have read from a biased source.

If you cannot live by the standards you are trying to condone, how do you expect others to?
----------------------------------------------------------------------


You can guarantee KFC will turn up on any article relating to the ME and completely distract from the main point.
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Both of you are to eager.

Read my response again, it says "some soldiers"

I know it's SOME soldiers not least because I have worked with ex soldiers who left the army because they didn't want to partake in illegal invasions.

So it's pretty obvious to me that a lot of soldiers are murdering rapists.

posted on 2/7/15

Bomb them all.

posted on 2/7/15

comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 32 seconds ago
And the army.

................

Depends what army you are on about. The British army, for instance, encourages it's personnel to be able to think for themselves.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm talking about the British army.

Please refer to ex soldiers like Ben Griffin and joe Glenton who provide plenty of information on the crimes some soldiers commit.

Massive number of rapes against women soldiers within the army as well. More evidence of soldiers thinking for themselves.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

If you are going to come onto every article like this preaching that all of Islam should not be judged by the actions of a few, can you please start practicing what you preach in reverse and stop judging the entire British army and western world based on the actions of a few or what you have read from a biased source.

If you cannot live by the standards you are trying to condone, how do you expect others to?
----------------------------------------------------------------------


You can guarantee KFC will turn up on any article relating to the ME and completely distract from the main point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Both of you are to eager.

Read my response again, it says "some soldiers"

I know it's SOME soldiers not least because I have worked with ex soldiers who left the army because they didn't want to partake in illegal invasions.

So it's pretty obvious to me that a lot of soldiers are murdering rapists.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Fo' sho', but check your first comment - "armies" (not 'some soldiers'... also, you don't offer anything in the way of agreeance at atrocities but look to shift blame to the West.

posted on 2/7/15

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
Probably because it's a complete reversal of history and evidence.

...............

No, it isn't.

You get long periods where nothing happens in Israel. then some ar sehole from Hamas startys firing rockets into Israel and then Israel retaliate.

I am quite sure you will now post something to justify what Hamas do. There isn't any justification, so don't bother.
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Yes it is correct. I'd cite you the evidence but, as you've demonstrated repeatedly already, you have no interested in challenging your own misconceptions about these issues.

Furthermore, what long periods of nothing are you referring to? Do you mean, the bits where the occupation, which is quite brutal, continues? That's not nothing. Or the continued settlement expansion? Also just nothing? The blockade? Nothing, too?

It's a daily military occupation - there's no 'nothing' going on. Stuff like this happens without a hint of media coverage, as just one example:

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-s-arab-citizens-fight-roof-over-their-heads-696493297

posted on 2/7/15

comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 1 minute ago
Bomb them all.
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Frenchie

posted on 2/7/15

comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 1 minute ago
Bomb them all.
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Who's them all?

posted on 2/7/15

comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 1 minute ago
Bomb them all.
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Who's them all?
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I'm sure, knowing French as I do, that he meant individuals active or aligning themselves with IS and/or terrorist policies, and not a blanket bomb on the middle east. Right French?

posted on 2/7/15

comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 32 seconds ago
And the army.

................

Depends what army you are on about. The British army, for instance, encourages it's personnel to be able to think for themselves.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm talking about the British army.

Please refer to ex soldiers like Ben Griffin and joe Glenton who provide plenty of information on the crimes some soldiers commit.

Massive number of rapes against women soldiers within the army as well. More evidence of soldiers thinking for themselves.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

If you are going to come onto every article like this preaching that all of Islam should not be judged by the actions of a few, can you please start practicing what you preach in reverse and stop judging the entire British army and western world based on the actions of a few or what you have read from a biased source.

If you cannot live by the standards you are trying to condone, how do you expect others to?
----------------------------------------------------------------------


You can guarantee KFC will turn up on any article relating to the ME and completely distract from the main point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Both of you are to eager.

Read my response again, it says "some soldiers"

I know it's SOME soldiers not least because I have worked with ex soldiers who left the army because they didn't want to partake in illegal invasions.

So it's pretty obvious to me that a lot of soldiers are murdering rapists.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Fo' sho', but check your first comment - "armies" (not 'some soldiers'... also, you don't offer anything in the way of agreeance at atrocities but look to shift blame to the West.
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It's because you read only what you want to read.

In every thread like these I distance Islam way from groups that commit atrocities. Why do you think that is?

Oh and it is the blame of the west.

posted on 2/7/15

comment by Robben #20 (U1145)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 1 minute ago
Bomb them all.
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Who's them all?
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I'm sure, knowing French as I do, that he meant individuals active or aligning themselves with IS and/or terrorist policies, and not a blanket bomb on the middle east. Right French?
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You know he means all Arabs/Muslims.

posted on 2/7/15

comment by Red_Warrior (U18607)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 1 minute ago
Bomb them all.
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Who's them all?
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Why?

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