Isn't that the argument of the anti immigration brigade when you tell them immigrants aren't sponging?**
drama queen
why would you tell people that immigrants aren't sponging? you honestly think 100% of the immigrants that come here are self-reliant? get a grip FFS
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posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
Britain had to let in around 260,000 people from the EU and they voluntarily let in around 350,000 from outside of the EU.
If immigration is such a big issue why are they letting in more people from outside of the EU then the number they take in from inside the EU?
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This is a silly question
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Go on Robben....
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Well if people are able to pay their own way, of course they are more likely to be accepted.
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Oh but what about the strain on services Robben, like the NHS and public transport oh and don't forget over crowding.
Isn't that the argument of the anti immigration brigade when you tell them immigrants aren't sponging?
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The NHS is only in the mess it's in because the tories are in power
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 57 seconds ago
You'd honestly think that 99% of the whole Brexit issue was immigration, that's all these discussions ever boil down to
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It now boils down to arguments about primarily immigration control, and secondarily, self-governance.
These are the points that the Brexiters are now focussing on as those on international security, defence, political stability, global and national economic interests, etc. have effectively been settled.
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
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posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
Britain had to let in around 260,000 people from the EU and they voluntarily let in around 350,000 from outside of the EU.
If immigration is such a big issue why are they letting in more people from outside of the EU then the number they take in from inside the EU?
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This is a silly question
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Go on Robben....
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Well if people are able to pay their own way, of course they are more likely to be accepted.
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Oh but what about the strain on services Robben, like the NHS and public transport oh and don't forget over crowding.
Isn't that the argument of the anti immigration brigade when you tell them immigrants aren't sponging?
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But those people, that are paying their way, are actually contributing financially to those services.
Thanks for helping with my point here, btw
Once again, you are in cloud cuckoo land if you believe there will be any significant change in immigration policy if we leave the EU.**
oh go on I will briefly humour you - why?
I dont think you've grasped the fact that we will have our own immigration policy if we leave (which is what millions of people here want) so why wouldnt we be able to significantly change it??
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 1 minute ago
Isn't that the argument of the anti immigration brigade when you tell them immigrants aren't sponging?**
drama queen
why would you tell people that immigrants aren't sponging? you honestly think 100% of the immigrants that come here are self-reliant? get a grip FFS
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No an insignificant amount are compared to the benefits the majority provide. Get a grip!
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 27 seconds ago
that they will be able to implement sweeping immigration changes which will result in significant change. It simply will not happen.**
you keep saying this over and over??
if we come out of a union that has a policy of uncontrolled, unlimited free-movement of people it WILL happen
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Because it's true.
Other than Ukip there is not another political party considering it.
The Immigration Act 2014 had full support across the political divide. There is simply no suggestion (other than propaganda) that it’s on the table for additional reform even if there is a Brexit.
So how then can Brexit (now) offer assurances on a policy which has not even reached any form of conception. Are you aware of a white paper on it that the rest of us are not?
as those on international security, defence, political stability, global and national economic interests, etc. have effectively been settled.**
err no they haven't...are you mental
No an insignificant amount are compared to the benefits the majority provide. Get a grip!**
okay so are you admitting that your previous statement of immigrants do not come here to sponge is wrong?
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 22 seconds ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robben (U1145)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
Britain had to let in around 260,000 people from the EU and they voluntarily let in around 350,000 from outside of the EU.
If immigration is such a big issue why are they letting in more people from outside of the EU then the number they take in from inside the EU?
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This is a silly question
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Go on Robben....
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Well if people are able to pay their own way, of course they are more likely to be accepted.
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Oh but what about the strain on services Robben, like the NHS and public transport oh and don't forget over crowding.
Isn't that the argument of the anti immigration brigade when you tell them immigrants aren't sponging?
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The NHS is only in the mess it's in because the tories are in power
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You don't need to tell me that mate, I'm totally aware the Tories are trying to privatise the NHS.
Soon you will be called a commie for even thinking about universal healthcare.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 27 seconds ago
that they will be able to implement sweeping immigration changes which will result in significant change. It simply will not happen.**
you keep saying this over and over??
if we come out of a union that has a policy of uncontrolled, unlimited free-movement of people it WILL happen
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Because it's true.
Other than Ukip there is not another political party considering it.
The Immigration Act 2014 had full support across the political divide. There is simply no suggestion (other than propaganda) that it’s on the table for additional reform even if there is a Brexit.
So how then can Brexit (now) offer assurances on a policy which has not even reached any form of conception. Are you aware of a white paper on it that the rest of us are not?
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In answer to your question really?, this.
The Government, and nearly each and every one of the political parties represented in the Commons *likes* the status quo.
They don't want anything to change, and they won't change anything.
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 2 minutes ago
as those on international security, defence, political stability, global and national economic interests, etc. have effectively been settled.**
err no they haven't...are you mental
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So which of these are the Leave campaign currently focussing on?...
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comment by really? (U17250)
posted 24 seconds ago
No an insignificant amount are compared to the benefits the majority provide. Get a grip!**
okay so are you admitting that your previous statement of immigrants do not come here to sponge is wrong?
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Are you that dense that you think I meant EVERY SINGLE person that enters the UK doesn't sponge?
I didn't say anywhere that all immigrants are robots programmed to be beneficial to us Brits.
Debating with you, is literally like talking to a 9 year old... I only wish JA606 had the options available to draw diagrams for people like you.
We are importing from both inside and outside the EU, a well-educated workforce, more likely to pay more in tax and more likely to take less in benefits than your average Briton.
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You asked me the difference between EU migration vs non-EU migration.
Then you quote that they have greater percentage of degrees compared to UK workers. Thats comparing apples and oranges.
Just because we take control of the immigration policy doesn't mean that we will stop those EU migrants who have degrees that we need. The point is the migration will be controlled to those industries that need it which protects the UK labour market. Surely every government hast to protect the interests of the people who live in that country.
And it badly affects trade. For example look at the problems the EU is having imposing steel tariffs on China. The biggest user of steel in Europe is Germany. And those auto lobbyists like cheap Chinese steel. More expensive steel more means more expensive cars. So you have conflicting needs across EU. Some countries rely on a steel industry and others rely on cheap steel. Which means nothing gets done or the biggest countries have sway. Every country in the EU protects its interests. And as a lot of them are now dependant on the Euro they don't care much what happens in England which means we get the bad end of any inter EU decisions. So either we join the Euro and all the rubbish that comes with that or we will be out anyway....sooner or later.
Surely that's enough on immigration for today?
What's everyone's thoughts on a EU Army?
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 26 seconds ago
Isn't that the argument of the anti immigration brigade when you tell them immigrants aren't sponging?**
drama queen
why would you tell people that immigrants aren't sponging? you honestly think 100% of the immigrants that come here are self-reliant? get a grip FFS
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Immigration is just another piece of nonsense used by the brexit brigade because they can't find any REAL reasons to leave.
I'll just drop this here.
http://iasservices.org.uk/how-does-immigration-benefit-the-uk/
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/05/eu-migrants-uk-gains-20bn-ucl-study
It would appear that immigration has benefits but the brexiters choose to ignore those and would rather spout inaccuracies and lies to scare people into voting leave.
comment by sᴉɥƃuǝlפ (U19365)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 26 seconds ago
Isn't that the argument of the anti immigration brigade when you tell them immigrants aren't sponging?**
drama queen
why would you tell people that immigrants aren't sponging? you honestly think 100% of the immigrants that come here are self-reliant? get a grip FFS
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Immigration is just another piece of nonsense used by the brexit brigade because they can't find any REAL reasons to leave.
I'll just drop this here.
http://iasservices.org.uk/how-does-immigration-benefit-the-uk/
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/05/eu-migrants-uk-gains-20bn-ucl-study
It would appear that immigration has benefits but the brexiters choose to ignore those and would rather spout inaccuracies and lies to scare people into voting leave.
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He's just a silly racistCunt. Facts won't put him off.
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 25 minutes ago
Loving watching Cameron panicking, he's only stopped short of wearing a t-shirt with the slogan "the end is nigh"
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No scaremongering please Bobby
Debating with you, is literally like talking to a 9 year old**
yeah okay, earlier you said that the planet earth is just soil and people should be allowed to go wherever they like
See you in the morning, friends
I raised this a few times earlier but is there anyone on here that has an idea what the leave exit strategy/roadmap is? Brexit have (to date) offered nothing.
What are forecasts for year one, two etc? While the UK grapples with the declining value of the pound, and renegotiates trade agreements etc how will the economy be sustained during this period, and how long will it take?
He's just a silly racistCunt. Facts won't put him off.**
shinji - have a word with our fanatical friend here, he's clearly having a bad time of things and getting a bit fluestered after the 'the world is everyone's' (apart from palestine) disaster comment but there's a line ya know
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 33 seconds ago
Debating with you, is literally like talking to a 9 year old**
yeah okay, earlier you said that the planet earth is just soil and people should be allowed to go wherever they like
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Yup and it's a pretty good idea.
Lets all be little bigots and xenophobes instead and judge each other on things like skin colour and culture.
If England became 70% black would you mind?
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posted on 2/6/16
Isn't that the argument of the anti immigration brigade when you tell them immigrants aren't sponging?**
drama queen
why would you tell people that immigrants aren't sponging? you honestly think 100% of the immigrants that come here are self-reliant? get a grip FFS
posted on 2/6/16
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Robben (U1145)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robben (U1145)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
Britain had to let in around 260,000 people from the EU and they voluntarily let in around 350,000 from outside of the EU.
If immigration is such a big issue why are they letting in more people from outside of the EU then the number they take in from inside the EU?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a silly question
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Go on Robben....
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Well if people are able to pay their own way, of course they are more likely to be accepted.
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Oh but what about the strain on services Robben, like the NHS and public transport oh and don't forget over crowding.
Isn't that the argument of the anti immigration brigade when you tell them immigrants aren't sponging?
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The NHS is only in the mess it's in because the tories are in power
posted on 2/6/16
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 57 seconds ago
You'd honestly think that 99% of the whole Brexit issue was immigration, that's all these discussions ever boil down to
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It now boils down to arguments about primarily immigration control, and secondarily, self-governance.
These are the points that the Brexiters are now focussing on as those on international security, defence, political stability, global and national economic interests, etc. have effectively been settled.
posted on 2/6/16
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robben (U1145)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robben (U1145)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
Britain had to let in around 260,000 people from the EU and they voluntarily let in around 350,000 from outside of the EU.
If immigration is such a big issue why are they letting in more people from outside of the EU then the number they take in from inside the EU?
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This is a silly question
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Go on Robben....
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Well if people are able to pay their own way, of course they are more likely to be accepted.
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Oh but what about the strain on services Robben, like the NHS and public transport oh and don't forget over crowding.
Isn't that the argument of the anti immigration brigade when you tell them immigrants aren't sponging?
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But those people, that are paying their way, are actually contributing financially to those services.
Thanks for helping with my point here, btw
posted on 2/6/16
Once again, you are in cloud cuckoo land if you believe there will be any significant change in immigration policy if we leave the EU.**
oh go on I will briefly humour you - why?
I dont think you've grasped the fact that we will have our own immigration policy if we leave (which is what millions of people here want) so why wouldnt we be able to significantly change it??
posted on 2/6/16
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 1 minute ago
Isn't that the argument of the anti immigration brigade when you tell them immigrants aren't sponging?**
drama queen
why would you tell people that immigrants aren't sponging? you honestly think 100% of the immigrants that come here are self-reliant? get a grip FFS
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No an insignificant amount are compared to the benefits the majority provide. Get a grip!
posted on 2/6/16
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 27 seconds ago
that they will be able to implement sweeping immigration changes which will result in significant change. It simply will not happen.**
you keep saying this over and over??
if we come out of a union that has a policy of uncontrolled, unlimited free-movement of people it WILL happen
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because it's true.
Other than Ukip there is not another political party considering it.
The Immigration Act 2014 had full support across the political divide. There is simply no suggestion (other than propaganda) that it’s on the table for additional reform even if there is a Brexit.
So how then can Brexit (now) offer assurances on a policy which has not even reached any form of conception. Are you aware of a white paper on it that the rest of us are not?
posted on 2/6/16
as those on international security, defence, political stability, global and national economic interests, etc. have effectively been settled.**
err no they haven't...are you mental
posted on 2/6/16
No an insignificant amount are compared to the benefits the majority provide. Get a grip!**
okay so are you admitting that your previous statement of immigrants do not come here to sponge is wrong?
posted on 2/6/16
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Robben (U1145)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robben (U1145)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
Britain had to let in around 260,000 people from the EU and they voluntarily let in around 350,000 from outside of the EU.
If immigration is such a big issue why are they letting in more people from outside of the EU then the number they take in from inside the EU?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a silly question
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Go on Robben....
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Well if people are able to pay their own way, of course they are more likely to be accepted.
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Oh but what about the strain on services Robben, like the NHS and public transport oh and don't forget over crowding.
Isn't that the argument of the anti immigration brigade when you tell them immigrants aren't sponging?
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The NHS is only in the mess it's in because the tories are in power
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You don't need to tell me that mate, I'm totally aware the Tories are trying to privatise the NHS.
Soon you will be called a commie for even thinking about universal healthcare.
posted on 2/6/16
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 27 seconds ago
that they will be able to implement sweeping immigration changes which will result in significant change. It simply will not happen.**
you keep saying this over and over??
if we come out of a union that has a policy of uncontrolled, unlimited free-movement of people it WILL happen
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because it's true.
Other than Ukip there is not another political party considering it.
The Immigration Act 2014 had full support across the political divide. There is simply no suggestion (other than propaganda) that it’s on the table for additional reform even if there is a Brexit.
So how then can Brexit (now) offer assurances on a policy which has not even reached any form of conception. Are you aware of a white paper on it that the rest of us are not?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In answer to your question really?, this.
The Government, and nearly each and every one of the political parties represented in the Commons *likes* the status quo.
They don't want anything to change, and they won't change anything.
posted on 2/6/16
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 2 minutes ago
as those on international security, defence, political stability, global and national economic interests, etc. have effectively been settled.**
err no they haven't...are you mental
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So which of these are the Leave campaign currently focussing on?...
posted on 2/6/16
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posted on 2/6/16
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 24 seconds ago
No an insignificant amount are compared to the benefits the majority provide. Get a grip!**
okay so are you admitting that your previous statement of immigrants do not come here to sponge is wrong?
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Are you that dense that you think I meant EVERY SINGLE person that enters the UK doesn't sponge?
I didn't say anywhere that all immigrants are robots programmed to be beneficial to us Brits.
Debating with you, is literally like talking to a 9 year old... I only wish JA606 had the options available to draw diagrams for people like you.
posted on 2/6/16
We are importing from both inside and outside the EU, a well-educated workforce, more likely to pay more in tax and more likely to take less in benefits than your average Briton.
------------------------------
You asked me the difference between EU migration vs non-EU migration.
Then you quote that they have greater percentage of degrees compared to UK workers. Thats comparing apples and oranges.
Just because we take control of the immigration policy doesn't mean that we will stop those EU migrants who have degrees that we need. The point is the migration will be controlled to those industries that need it which protects the UK labour market. Surely every government hast to protect the interests of the people who live in that country.
And it badly affects trade. For example look at the problems the EU is having imposing steel tariffs on China. The biggest user of steel in Europe is Germany. And those auto lobbyists like cheap Chinese steel. More expensive steel more means more expensive cars. So you have conflicting needs across EU. Some countries rely on a steel industry and others rely on cheap steel. Which means nothing gets done or the biggest countries have sway. Every country in the EU protects its interests. And as a lot of them are now dependant on the Euro they don't care much what happens in England which means we get the bad end of any inter EU decisions. So either we join the Euro and all the rubbish that comes with that or we will be out anyway....sooner or later.
posted on 2/6/16
Surely that's enough on immigration for today?
What's everyone's thoughts on a EU Army?
posted on 2/6/16
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 26 seconds ago
Isn't that the argument of the anti immigration brigade when you tell them immigrants aren't sponging?**
drama queen
why would you tell people that immigrants aren't sponging? you honestly think 100% of the immigrants that come here are self-reliant? get a grip FFS
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Immigration is just another piece of nonsense used by the brexit brigade because they can't find any REAL reasons to leave.
I'll just drop this here.
http://iasservices.org.uk/how-does-immigration-benefit-the-uk/
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/05/eu-migrants-uk-gains-20bn-ucl-study
It would appear that immigration has benefits but the brexiters choose to ignore those and would rather spout inaccuracies and lies to scare people into voting leave.
posted on 2/6/16
comment by sᴉɥƃuǝlפ (U19365)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 26 seconds ago
Isn't that the argument of the anti immigration brigade when you tell them immigrants aren't sponging?**
drama queen
why would you tell people that immigrants aren't sponging? you honestly think 100% of the immigrants that come here are self-reliant? get a grip FFS
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Immigration is just another piece of nonsense used by the brexit brigade because they can't find any REAL reasons to leave.
I'll just drop this here.
http://iasservices.org.uk/how-does-immigration-benefit-the-uk/
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/05/eu-migrants-uk-gains-20bn-ucl-study
It would appear that immigration has benefits but the brexiters choose to ignore those and would rather spout inaccuracies and lies to scare people into voting leave.
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He's just a silly racistCunt. Facts won't put him off.
posted on 2/6/16
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 25 minutes ago
Loving watching Cameron panicking, he's only stopped short of wearing a t-shirt with the slogan "the end is nigh"
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No scaremongering please Bobby
posted on 2/6/16
posted on 2/6/16
Debating with you, is literally like talking to a 9 year old**
yeah okay, earlier you said that the planet earth is just soil and people should be allowed to go wherever they like
posted on 2/6/16
See you in the morning, friends
posted on 2/6/16
I raised this a few times earlier but is there anyone on here that has an idea what the leave exit strategy/roadmap is? Brexit have (to date) offered nothing.
What are forecasts for year one, two etc? While the UK grapples with the declining value of the pound, and renegotiates trade agreements etc how will the economy be sustained during this period, and how long will it take?
posted on 2/6/16
He's just a silly racistCunt. Facts won't put him off.**
shinji - have a word with our fanatical friend here, he's clearly having a bad time of things and getting a bit fluestered after the 'the world is everyone's' (apart from palestine) disaster comment but there's a line ya know
posted on 2/6/16
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 33 seconds ago
Debating with you, is literally like talking to a 9 year old**
yeah okay, earlier you said that the planet earth is just soil and people should be allowed to go wherever they like
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yup and it's a pretty good idea.
Lets all be little bigots and xenophobes instead and judge each other on things like skin colour and culture.
If England became 70% black would you mind?
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