comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
really?
Not really convinced you have thought this through.
Okay, so Brexit have assured tougher boarder control etc etc. How exactly is this going to be achieved (by way of legislation)?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Balls to legislation, we just shoot any fecker who tries to sneak in.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Snipers on the borders and a fucckoff wall.
No, seriously you have to actually think about this... OUTers think everything will just "happen"
If its a close outcome it won't matter if 'remain' wins or not. The angst in this country is very similar to that in most European countries caused by the economic collapse of the Euro. The European central back has negative interest rates for god sake. Things are going to get far worse in Europe. And its interesting that the remain campaign don't want to discuss what happens if the only way out for the Eurozone is to become a federal state? Do we hold another referendum on the future of the pound and so vote to leave again?
I think you'll find that the EU referendum transcends the usual political allegiances**
to a small degree perhaps but I personally don't know any left wingers that want to leave
comment by Robben (U1145)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Robben (U1145)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Robben (U1145)
posted 23 seconds ago
"kicking people off of there own land"
But a minute ago, land and borders don't exist! Can you not see how you are applying double standards?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No.
Do you understand that I am distinguishing between individual privately owned land and an entire nation?
I need you to answer this first.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course, but go back far enough and one equals the other
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No not really.... how does a nation equal a few acres of land, ever?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because once upon a time there were a lot less people, so the bits of land that everyone owned were a bit (a lot) bigger than people's bits of land are now
It's quite straightforward.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
These bits of Land made up communities with public land in between the individual private bits of land.
People not being allowed on the public land in between these individual homes would be the equivalent to border control today.
Regardless I don't have an issue with you Robben, you don't come across as aCunt.
I just wish this world would find a way not to restrict movement of human beings.
I am a left leaning economist. And I want us to leave.
OUTers think everything will just "happen" **
that's not true, i don't think that but if you want to address the immigration mess you have to have a starting point, you can't get that starting point whilst in the EU, you know that everyone agrees on that
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 51 seconds ago
I am a left leaning economist. And I want us to leave.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
cheers for the good timing with that one
Im voting leave as we don't need the EU, no reason to be paying them so much to restrict our businesses
I find it amazing that the remain campaign have not focussed more on the glaring holes in Brexit’s immigration proposals.
For any change of legislation it will have to be passed through Parliament. There is no evidence, or even suggestion that it will be proposed, nor passed (if it even got that far).
Neither Labour nor Conservatives have any appetite to implement what Brexit are trying to sell. It’s madness.
And I've always voted labour
OK, that's 2 in about 30 seconds
I am a left leaning economist. And I want us to leave**
and is that because you haven't seen what all of the 'expert' economists have or because you're reasons for leaving are not economical?
you're now a racist btw default..............
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robben (U1145)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Robben (U1145)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Robben (U1145)
posted 23 seconds ago
"kicking people off of there own land"
But a minute ago, land and borders don't exist! Can you not see how you are applying double standards?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No.
Do you understand that I am distinguishing between individual privately owned land and an entire nation?
I need you to answer this first.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course, but go back far enough and one equals the other
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No not really.... how does a nation equal a few acres of land, ever?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because once upon a time there were a lot less people, so the bits of land that everyone owned were a bit (a lot) bigger than people's bits of land are now
It's quite straightforward.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
These bits of Land made up communities with public land in between the individual private bits of land.
People not being allowed on the public land in between these individual homes would be the equivalent to border control today.
Regardless I don't have an issue with you Robben, you don't come across as aCunt.
I just wish this world would find a way not to restrict movement of human beings.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's easier said than done and a little fanciful...
Erm.. thanks
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 22 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 13 minutes ago
If you look past the personalities and the dubious economic predictions, you are left with a simple decision.
Do you want to be a citizen of undemocratic federalist europe run by unelected technocrats and placemen.
Or a citizen of a democratic sovereign nation with the choice of voting for a government that represents you.
Out and lets get our freedom back.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There are so many inaccuracies with this type of view, which seems to have gathered pace – without any factual evidence behind it.
We all vote for our MEPs in the European Elections – therefore ensuring democracy is upheld.
The European Parliament vote (again ensuring democracy) on legislation. However should there be a Brexit, the UK would implement the majority of European legislation anyway, as Parliament (UK) have been doing for decades – under consecutive Labour and Tory governments. Because (in the main) European legislation has been a good thing. Consumer and employment rights two high profile examples.
Out of interest what particular piece of European legislation do you not agree with?
___________________________________
Stuart
The European Parliament is a shame, they have no legislative power, they can not instigate legislation, amend legislation, or stop legislation. All they do is add a vener of democracy to the European super state.
And as far as EU legislation goes, How am I supposed to know what legislation they have passed that I disagree with, the out put is stupendous. But one thing that is obviously a problem is the inability of our environment agency to dredge rivers to stop them flooding our towns.
They may have come up with some good legislation in the past, my problem is that we have no choice in implementing it, if we disagree with it.
This isn't a choice about the economy for me, its a choice between democracy and rule by an unelected commission.
Make the right decision now so that we don't wake up 20 years from now living in Arc Manche.
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 18 hours, 19 minutes ago
This immigrant talk is getting exhausted. Alot of them work and taxes are taken either directly or indirectly.
A lot of them work for minimum wage (or less) and rely on Tax Credits (paid out of my tax) to get by.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Define "a lot"...
I find it amazing that the remain campaign have not focussed more on the glaring holes in Brexit’s immigration proposals.
For any change of legislation it will have to be passed through Parliament. There is no evidence, or even suggestion that it will be proposed, nor passed (if it even got that far).
**
I'll take your 'legislation' and I will raise you 'an end to the unlimited and uncontrolled freedom of movement from people within the EU to the U.K, control
This thread has gone right off topic, lets got back to talking about Everton and how every other club will be in our shadow.
Evertonians are all voting out as we're never in Europe anyway.
I find it amazing that the remain campaign have not focussed more on the glaring holes in Brexit’s immigration proposals.
--------------------------
I think you are missing the point mate. There doesn't need to be any legislation passed immediately. What will happen is that Cameron will go for another renegotiation of the treaty asking for exactly what he asked a few months ago but this time with a mandate of the people. The EU is bizarre and it only moves when there is threat of collapse. The same thing happened with the Irish and French referendums to pull out a few years ago.
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 2 minutes ago
I find it amazing that the remain campaign have not focussed more on the glaring holes in Brexit’s immigration proposals.
For any change of legislation it will have to be passed through Parliament. There is no evidence, or even suggestion that it will be proposed, nor passed (if it even got that far).
**
I'll take your 'legislation' and I will raise you 'an end to the unlimited and uncontrolled freedom of movement from people within the EU to the U.K, control
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you actually knew what this means, or backed it up, fine. But you've basically read it somewhere and thought it sounds good
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 22 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 13 minutes ago
If you look past the personalities and the dubious economic predictions, you are left with a simple decision.
Do you want to be a citizen of undemocratic federalist europe run by unelected technocrats and placemen.
Or a citizen of a democratic sovereign nation with the choice of voting for a government that represents you.
Out and lets get our freedom back.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There are so many inaccuracies with this type of view, which seems to have gathered pace – without any factual evidence behind it.
We all vote for our MEPs in the European Elections – therefore ensuring democracy is upheld.
The European Parliament vote (again ensuring democracy) on legislation. However should there be a Brexit, the UK would implement the majority of European legislation anyway, as Parliament (UK) have been doing for decades – under consecutive Labour and Tory governments. Because (in the main) European legislation has been a good thing. Consumer and employment rights two high profile examples.
Out of interest what particular piece of European legislation do you not agree with?
___________________________________
Stuart
The European Parliament is a shame, they have no legislative power, they can not instigate legislation, amend legislation, or stop legislation. All they do is add a vener of democracy to the European super state.
And as far as EU legislation goes, How am I supposed to know what legislation they have passed that I disagree with, the out put is stupendous. But one thing that is obviously a problem is the inability of our environment agency to dredge rivers to stop them flooding our towns.
They may have come up with some good legislation in the past, my problem is that we have no choice in implementing it, if we disagree with it.
This isn't a choice about the economy for me, its a choice between democracy and rule by an unelected commission.
Make the right decision now so that we don't wake up 20 years from now living in Arc Manche.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Unfortunately, leaving (as I assume you want to do based on the above argument) has a huge economical impact so whilst you'll be getting a "win" in terms of no longer having to worry about the 13% - 50-ish% of European laws being passed, you also have negligible changes to immigration AND a weakening of the pound and UK's standing in the world.
Which is more important?
You don't like Muslims, we get it**
no no...like the other guy said nice try at Spin
you said everyone has the right to go anywhere they like and then contradicted yourself (like you always do) on palestine
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 2 minutes ago
I am a left leaning economist. And I want us to leave**
and is that because you haven't seen what all of the 'expert' economists have or because you're reasons for leaving are not economical?
you're now a racist btwdefault..............
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The truth is a lot of economists are more worried about the collapse of the Euro as a major black swan event throwing most the world back into recession. However I suspect our exit will speed up integration or end the Euro for once and all. I believe a lot of the people would prefer the status quo but that doesn't lead to anything as Japan found out in the 1990s. Harsh as it may sound we need a business cycle to end before you can start a new one and if that means a very hard landing for those living on the bubble of the housing market in this country, so be it.
Check this out.....
Americans going to University in Slovenia because it's free and they have a better level of education.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g3Km5kSi7A
From Michael Moores new documentary.
Free movement of individuals is already something that can be enjoyed by people with certain passports. They don't even have right wingers protesting outside the universities because they are benefit scroungers.
If you actually knew what this means, or backed it up, fine**
what are you talking about I didn't set the movement up, I've not been involved with any EU law planning so how can I back it up dear me....
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 22 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 13 minutes ago
If you look past the personalities and the dubious economic predictions, you are left with a simple decision.
Do you want to be a citizen of undemocratic federalist europe run by unelected technocrats and placemen.
Or a citizen of a democratic sovereign nation with the choice of voting for a government that represents you.
Out and lets get our freedom back.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There are so many inaccuracies with this type of view, which seems to have gathered pace – without any factual evidence behind it.
We all vote for our MEPs in the European Elections – therefore ensuring democracy is upheld.
The European Parliament vote (again ensuring democracy) on legislation. However should there be a Brexit, the UK would implement the majority of European legislation anyway, as Parliament (UK) have been doing for decades – under consecutive Labour and Tory governments. Because (in the main) European legislation has been a good thing. Consumer and employment rights two high profile examples.
Out of interest what particular piece of European legislation do you not agree with?
___________________________________
Stuart
The European Parliament is a shame, they have no legislative power, they can not instigate legislation, amend legislation, or stop legislation. All they do is add a vener of democracy to the European super state.
And as far as EU legislation goes, How am I supposed to know what legislation they have passed that I disagree with, the out put is stupendous. But one thing that is obviously a problem is the inability of our environment agency to dredge rivers to stop them flooding our towns.
They may have come up with some good legislation in the past, my problem is that we have no choice in implementing it, if we disagree with it.
This isn't a choice about the economy for me, its a choice between democracy and rule by an unelected commission.
Make the right decision now so that we don't wake up 20 years from now living in Arc Manche.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you are mixing up EU regulations and EU directives.
Starving so getting some lunch, and will pick up later
Inter-board posting anf JA Brexit vote
Page 31 of 97
32 | 33 | 34 | 35 | 36
posted on 2/6/16
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
really?
Not really convinced you have thought this through.
Okay, so Brexit have assured tougher boarder control etc etc. How exactly is this going to be achieved (by way of legislation)?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Balls to legislation, we just shoot any fecker who tries to sneak in.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Snipers on the borders and a fucckoff wall.
No, seriously you have to actually think about this... OUTers think everything will just "happen"
posted on 2/6/16
If its a close outcome it won't matter if 'remain' wins or not. The angst in this country is very similar to that in most European countries caused by the economic collapse of the Euro. The European central back has negative interest rates for god sake. Things are going to get far worse in Europe. And its interesting that the remain campaign don't want to discuss what happens if the only way out for the Eurozone is to become a federal state? Do we hold another referendum on the future of the pound and so vote to leave again?
posted on 2/6/16
I think you'll find that the EU referendum transcends the usual political allegiances**
to a small degree perhaps but I personally don't know any left wingers that want to leave
posted on 2/6/16
comment by Robben (U1145)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Robben (U1145)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Robben (U1145)
posted 23 seconds ago
"kicking people off of there own land"
But a minute ago, land and borders don't exist! Can you not see how you are applying double standards?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No.
Do you understand that I am distinguishing between individual privately owned land and an entire nation?
I need you to answer this first.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course, but go back far enough and one equals the other
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No not really.... how does a nation equal a few acres of land, ever?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because once upon a time there were a lot less people, so the bits of land that everyone owned were a bit (a lot) bigger than people's bits of land are now
It's quite straightforward.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
These bits of Land made up communities with public land in between the individual private bits of land.
People not being allowed on the public land in between these individual homes would be the equivalent to border control today.
Regardless I don't have an issue with you Robben, you don't come across as aCunt.
I just wish this world would find a way not to restrict movement of human beings.
posted on 2/6/16
I am a left leaning economist. And I want us to leave.
posted on 2/6/16
OUTers think everything will just "happen" **
that's not true, i don't think that but if you want to address the immigration mess you have to have a starting point, you can't get that starting point whilst in the EU, you know that everyone agrees on that
posted on 2/6/16
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 51 seconds ago
I am a left leaning economist. And I want us to leave.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
cheers for the good timing with that one
posted on 2/6/16
Im voting leave as we don't need the EU, no reason to be paying them so much to restrict our businesses
posted on 2/6/16
I find it amazing that the remain campaign have not focussed more on the glaring holes in Brexit’s immigration proposals.
For any change of legislation it will have to be passed through Parliament. There is no evidence, or even suggestion that it will be proposed, nor passed (if it even got that far).
Neither Labour nor Conservatives have any appetite to implement what Brexit are trying to sell. It’s madness.
posted on 2/6/16
And I've always voted labour
posted on 2/6/16
OK, that's 2 in about 30 seconds
posted on 2/6/16
I am a left leaning economist. And I want us to leave**
and is that because you haven't seen what all of the 'expert' economists have or because you're reasons for leaving are not economical?
you're now a racist btw default..............
posted on 2/6/16
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robben (U1145)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Robben (U1145)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Robben (U1145)
posted 23 seconds ago
"kicking people off of there own land"
But a minute ago, land and borders don't exist! Can you not see how you are applying double standards?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No.
Do you understand that I am distinguishing between individual privately owned land and an entire nation?
I need you to answer this first.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course, but go back far enough and one equals the other
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No not really.... how does a nation equal a few acres of land, ever?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because once upon a time there were a lot less people, so the bits of land that everyone owned were a bit (a lot) bigger than people's bits of land are now
It's quite straightforward.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
These bits of Land made up communities with public land in between the individual private bits of land.
People not being allowed on the public land in between these individual homes would be the equivalent to border control today.
Regardless I don't have an issue with you Robben, you don't come across as aCunt.
I just wish this world would find a way not to restrict movement of human beings.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's easier said than done and a little fanciful...
Erm.. thanks
posted on 2/6/16
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 22 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 13 minutes ago
If you look past the personalities and the dubious economic predictions, you are left with a simple decision.
Do you want to be a citizen of undemocratic federalist europe run by unelected technocrats and placemen.
Or a citizen of a democratic sovereign nation with the choice of voting for a government that represents you.
Out and lets get our freedom back.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There are so many inaccuracies with this type of view, which seems to have gathered pace – without any factual evidence behind it.
We all vote for our MEPs in the European Elections – therefore ensuring democracy is upheld.
The European Parliament vote (again ensuring democracy) on legislation. However should there be a Brexit, the UK would implement the majority of European legislation anyway, as Parliament (UK) have been doing for decades – under consecutive Labour and Tory governments. Because (in the main) European legislation has been a good thing. Consumer and employment rights two high profile examples.
Out of interest what particular piece of European legislation do you not agree with?
___________________________________
Stuart
The European Parliament is a shame, they have no legislative power, they can not instigate legislation, amend legislation, or stop legislation. All they do is add a vener of democracy to the European super state.
And as far as EU legislation goes, How am I supposed to know what legislation they have passed that I disagree with, the out put is stupendous. But one thing that is obviously a problem is the inability of our environment agency to dredge rivers to stop them flooding our towns.
They may have come up with some good legislation in the past, my problem is that we have no choice in implementing it, if we disagree with it.
This isn't a choice about the economy for me, its a choice between democracy and rule by an unelected commission.
Make the right decision now so that we don't wake up 20 years from now living in Arc Manche.
posted on 2/6/16
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 18 hours, 19 minutes ago
This immigrant talk is getting exhausted. Alot of them work and taxes are taken either directly or indirectly.
A lot of them work for minimum wage (or less) and rely on Tax Credits (paid out of my tax) to get by.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Define "a lot"...
posted on 2/6/16
I find it amazing that the remain campaign have not focussed more on the glaring holes in Brexit’s immigration proposals.
For any change of legislation it will have to be passed through Parliament. There is no evidence, or even suggestion that it will be proposed, nor passed (if it even got that far).
**
I'll take your 'legislation' and I will raise you 'an end to the unlimited and uncontrolled freedom of movement from people within the EU to the U.K, control
posted on 2/6/16
This thread has gone right off topic, lets got back to talking about Everton and how every other club will be in our shadow.
Evertonians are all voting out as we're never in Europe anyway.
posted on 2/6/16
I find it amazing that the remain campaign have not focussed more on the glaring holes in Brexit’s immigration proposals.
--------------------------
I think you are missing the point mate. There doesn't need to be any legislation passed immediately. What will happen is that Cameron will go for another renegotiation of the treaty asking for exactly what he asked a few months ago but this time with a mandate of the people. The EU is bizarre and it only moves when there is threat of collapse. The same thing happened with the Irish and French referendums to pull out a few years ago.
posted on 2/6/16
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 2 minutes ago
I find it amazing that the remain campaign have not focussed more on the glaring holes in Brexit’s immigration proposals.
For any change of legislation it will have to be passed through Parliament. There is no evidence, or even suggestion that it will be proposed, nor passed (if it even got that far).
**
I'll take your 'legislation' and I will raise you 'an end to the unlimited and uncontrolled freedom of movement from people within the EU to the U.K, control
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you actually knew what this means, or backed it up, fine. But you've basically read it somewhere and thought it sounds good
posted on 2/6/16
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 22 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 13 minutes ago
If you look past the personalities and the dubious economic predictions, you are left with a simple decision.
Do you want to be a citizen of undemocratic federalist europe run by unelected technocrats and placemen.
Or a citizen of a democratic sovereign nation with the choice of voting for a government that represents you.
Out and lets get our freedom back.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There are so many inaccuracies with this type of view, which seems to have gathered pace – without any factual evidence behind it.
We all vote for our MEPs in the European Elections – therefore ensuring democracy is upheld.
The European Parliament vote (again ensuring democracy) on legislation. However should there be a Brexit, the UK would implement the majority of European legislation anyway, as Parliament (UK) have been doing for decades – under consecutive Labour and Tory governments. Because (in the main) European legislation has been a good thing. Consumer and employment rights two high profile examples.
Out of interest what particular piece of European legislation do you not agree with?
___________________________________
Stuart
The European Parliament is a shame, they have no legislative power, they can not instigate legislation, amend legislation, or stop legislation. All they do is add a vener of democracy to the European super state.
And as far as EU legislation goes, How am I supposed to know what legislation they have passed that I disagree with, the out put is stupendous. But one thing that is obviously a problem is the inability of our environment agency to dredge rivers to stop them flooding our towns.
They may have come up with some good legislation in the past, my problem is that we have no choice in implementing it, if we disagree with it.
This isn't a choice about the economy for me, its a choice between democracy and rule by an unelected commission.
Make the right decision now so that we don't wake up 20 years from now living in Arc Manche.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Unfortunately, leaving (as I assume you want to do based on the above argument) has a huge economical impact so whilst you'll be getting a "win" in terms of no longer having to worry about the 13% - 50-ish% of European laws being passed, you also have negligible changes to immigration AND a weakening of the pound and UK's standing in the world.
Which is more important?
posted on 2/6/16
You don't like Muslims, we get it**
no no...like the other guy said nice try at Spin
you said everyone has the right to go anywhere they like and then contradicted yourself (like you always do) on palestine
posted on 2/6/16
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 2 minutes ago
I am a left leaning economist. And I want us to leave**
and is that because you haven't seen what all of the 'expert' economists have or because you're reasons for leaving are not economical?
you're now a racist btwdefault..............
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The truth is a lot of economists are more worried about the collapse of the Euro as a major black swan event throwing most the world back into recession. However I suspect our exit will speed up integration or end the Euro for once and all. I believe a lot of the people would prefer the status quo but that doesn't lead to anything as Japan found out in the 1990s. Harsh as it may sound we need a business cycle to end before you can start a new one and if that means a very hard landing for those living on the bubble of the housing market in this country, so be it.
posted on 2/6/16
Check this out.....
Americans going to University in Slovenia because it's free and they have a better level of education.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g3Km5kSi7A
From Michael Moores new documentary.
Free movement of individuals is already something that can be enjoyed by people with certain passports. They don't even have right wingers protesting outside the universities because they are benefit scroungers.
posted on 2/6/16
If you actually knew what this means, or backed it up, fine**
what are you talking about I didn't set the movement up, I've not been involved with any EU law planning so how can I back it up dear me....
posted on 2/6/16
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 22 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 13 minutes ago
If you look past the personalities and the dubious economic predictions, you are left with a simple decision.
Do you want to be a citizen of undemocratic federalist europe run by unelected technocrats and placemen.
Or a citizen of a democratic sovereign nation with the choice of voting for a government that represents you.
Out and lets get our freedom back.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There are so many inaccuracies with this type of view, which seems to have gathered pace – without any factual evidence behind it.
We all vote for our MEPs in the European Elections – therefore ensuring democracy is upheld.
The European Parliament vote (again ensuring democracy) on legislation. However should there be a Brexit, the UK would implement the majority of European legislation anyway, as Parliament (UK) have been doing for decades – under consecutive Labour and Tory governments. Because (in the main) European legislation has been a good thing. Consumer and employment rights two high profile examples.
Out of interest what particular piece of European legislation do you not agree with?
___________________________________
Stuart
The European Parliament is a shame, they have no legislative power, they can not instigate legislation, amend legislation, or stop legislation. All they do is add a vener of democracy to the European super state.
And as far as EU legislation goes, How am I supposed to know what legislation they have passed that I disagree with, the out put is stupendous. But one thing that is obviously a problem is the inability of our environment agency to dredge rivers to stop them flooding our towns.
They may have come up with some good legislation in the past, my problem is that we have no choice in implementing it, if we disagree with it.
This isn't a choice about the economy for me, its a choice between democracy and rule by an unelected commission.
Make the right decision now so that we don't wake up 20 years from now living in Arc Manche.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you are mixing up EU regulations and EU directives.
Starving so getting some lunch, and will pick up later
Page 31 of 97
32 | 33 | 34 | 35 | 36