comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by rossobianchi - Vote Drizzle! (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 33 minutes ago
Attack white English ch-Ava who don't want to work too. That's the drain on our taxes, not foreign or brown people
I don't recall mentioning colour. On fact white Australians are dab hands at ripping off the system.
Moving on, tell me exactly how a family of 9 coming from Eastern Europe to avail themselves of our free education, free healthcare and in their case, free housing actually benefits me personally.
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For the 5,000th time, here are some undisputed facts:
1. The average EU immigrant is 50% more likely than your average British adult to hold a university degree
2. The average EU immigrant pays more tax than the average British adult
3. The average EU immigrant takes less in state benefits than the average British adult
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So, it would make sense for thick white working class brits to worry about mass immigration, by your own argument😉
I hear Remain want to curb non-EU immigration, the racist swine.
At least Leave oppose white EU immigration here.
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I can only speak for one thick, white, working class Brit, and the current level of net immigration does not concern me
I don't believe we have a problem with the 'overcrowding' of the island, and would encourage people who think that way to visit, for example, the Netherlands.
The problems we have the provision of state healthcare, education and housing supply may be exacerbated by an increase in population; but the real underlying cause, in each case, is the failure of subsequent governments to focus resources and finances on those areas, in the case of the first two partly because those influencing and delivering against Conservative Party policy have an ideological and financial interest in the dissolution of the NHS and state education system (read, for example, comments in Gove's 2009 book about how the NHS is an anachronism and should be dissolved).
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 7 minutes ago
I also noticed you didn't address the crimes our country committed in Iraq, maybe your just embarrassed about the genocide we were complicit in.
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I'm a proud Englishman, I love my country, unlike you you moaning p rick.
What do you want my country to do to atone for the Iraq invasion?
Why do EU States want us to stay.....they love us😮?
Self-determination and sovereignty are rights we gave away at our peril, even if corporations and big business will still control us.
We are the 5th largest economy in the world..of course the eu wants us to stay
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 9 minutes ago
For the 5,000th time, here are some undisputed facts:
1. The average EU immigrant is 50% more likely than your average British adult to hold a university degree
2. The average EU immigrant pays more tax than the average British adult
3. The average EU immigrant takes less in state benefits than the average British adult
For the 5,000th time, bollox.
Average's are misleading, that's why they can made to bolster any point:
Say 1 person earns £100k a year whilst his 2 neighbours earn minimum wage of about £15k a year.
That would mean the average wage wage for the 3 people is about £43k a year when the reality is the majority (our 2 minimum wagers) are actually earning a third of that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The bottom line is this:
The current regime is delivering long-term, net migration that has a positive impact on per capita tax take *and* dependency on state support.
Not even the Leave campaign is arguing against that fact, and it is the main reason why not a single major political party is interested in curbing migration.
Big business supports the political parties, big business benefits most from an influx of cheap labour. That's why all thes multi-nationals want us to vote Remain.
Binky
You are at crap wummer..don't try and go there
*Big business supports the political parties financially.
I'm not fekin wumming ffs.
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 7 minutes ago
I also noticed you didn't address the crimes our country committed in Iraq, maybe your just embarrassed about the genocide we were complicit in.
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I'm a proud Englishman, I love my country, unlike you you moaning p rick.
What do you want my country to do to atone for the Iraq invasion?
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If you love your country you'd recognise the tyranny within it. No country is perfect and you'd do well to notice that the UK's foreign policy has caused nothing but death and misery for millions of people around the globe.
What would I like OUR country to do to atone for the war crimes it committed?
Put Blair and his government on trial.
Give back every drop of oil we stole from them or it's weight in gold.
Give the contracts for rebuilding the nation to Iraqi's NOT the British.
Publicly apologies for the brutality of our military strategy and false evidence and propaganda used to perpetuate an attack.
Provide medical care in this country for the disabled victims still being born today from our bombings with depleted uranium.
Provide refuge for Iraqi's who still don't have homes because we destroyed them.
Make it a law that our military can only protect British borders and make pre-emptive strikes illegal.
Them repeat the same for every other illegitimate war we fought since WW2.
Oh and you said I was moaning, you think what you have been saying about immigrants and the poor isn't moaning?
Imbecile.
comment by rossobianchi - Vote Drizzle! (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by rossobianchi - Vote Drizzle! (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 33 minutes ago
Attack white English ch-Ava who don't want to work too. That's the drain on our taxes, not foreign or brown people
I don't recall mentioning colour. On fact white Australians are dab hands at ripping off the system.
Moving on, tell me exactly how a family of 9 coming from Eastern Europe to avail themselves of our free education, free healthcare and in their case, free housing actually benefits me personally.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For the 5,000th time, here are some undisputed facts:
1. The average EU immigrant is 50% more likely than your average British adult to hold a university degree
2. The average EU immigrant pays more tax than the average British adult
3. The average EU immigrant takes less in state benefits than the average British adult
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So, it would make sense for thick white working class brits to worry about mass immigration, by your own argument😉
I hear Remain want to curb non-EU immigration, the racist swine.
At least Leave oppose white EU immigration here.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I can only speak for one thick, white, working class Brit, and the current level of net immigration does not concern me
I don't believe we have a problem with the 'overcrowding' of the island, and would encourage people who think that way to visit, for example, the Netherlands.
The problems we have the provision of state healthcare, education and housing supply may be exacerbated by an increase in population; but the real underlying cause, in each case, is the failure of subsequent governments to focus resources and finances on those areas, in the case of the first two partly because those influencing and delivering against Conservative Party policy have an ideological and financial interest in the dissolution of the NHS and state education system (read, for example, comments in Gove's 2009 book about how the NHS is an anachronism and should be dissolved).
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Agreed, toryand labour policies on the Nhs and immigration have been dire.
There is a racist tint to some immigration concerns,,but as most arrivals recently are white, this is complex.
The future direction of the Eu super state and eurozone concerns me, and as poor nations join to get our aid, I fear Germany and France want our money.
Social cohesion is affected when towns and cities change rapidly as people dislike change....that may be racist or narrowminded, even though brits are generally tolerant.
For me, the Eu is about big business, banks and folk such as Cameron and Merkel keeping power.
Telling small business people and fishermen how to do their job is an EU hobby, and why do said workers want to Leave, whereas the IMF and bid businesses want us to Remain.
Why is that?
Lets go bankrupt and give all the money to Iraq?
comment by rossobianchi - Vote Drizzle! (U17054)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 9 minutes ago
For the 5,000th time, here are some undisputed facts:
1. The average EU immigrant is 50% more likely than your average British adult to hold a university degree
2. The average EU immigrant pays more tax than the average British adult
3. The average EU immigrant takes less in state benefits than the average British adult
For the 5,000th time, bollox.
Average's are misleading, that's why they can made to bolster any point:
Say 1 person earns £100k a year whilst his 2 neighbours earn minimum wage of about £15k a year.
That would mean the average wage wage for the 3 people is about £43k a year when the reality is the majority (our 2 minimum wagers) are actually earning a third of that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The bottom line is this:
The current regime is delivering long-term, net migration that has a positive impact on per capita tax take *and* dependency on state support.
Not even the Leave campaign is arguing against that fact, and it is the main reason why not a single major political party is interested in curbing migration.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wrong, tories were shocked about latest stats on immigration being triple what Cameron pledged and even Corbyn admits mass immigration is a reasonable issue for voters.
Why pretend this is not swinging voters to Leave.
Many immigrants and folk who came here in recent decades live off benefits, and I see this daily in Dwp.
The whole immigrants are all hard working citizens is cobblers.
Check out benefit centres.The real world.
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 5 minutes ago
Lets go bankrupt and give all the money to Iraq?
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No.
Scrap trident and pay them off with that.
Or we can just pretend we haven't helped turn the middle east into a giant crater full to the brim with blood.
Do you love your country enough not to give a schit about human life as well? How patriotic.
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 7 minutes ago
I also noticed you didn't address the crimes our country committed in Iraq, maybe your just embarrassed about the genocide we were complicit in.
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I'm a proud Englishman, I love my country, unlike you you moaning p rick.
What do you want my country to do to atone for the Iraq invasion?
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If you love your country you'd recognise the tyranny within it. No country is perfect and you'd do well to notice that the UK's foreign policy has caused nothing but death and misery for millions of people around the globe.
What would I like OUR country to do to atone for the war crimes it committed?
Put Blair and his government on trial.
Give back every drop of oil we stole from them or it's weight in gold.
Give the contracts for rebuilding the nation to Iraqi's NOT the British.
Publicly apologies for the brutality of our military strategy and false evidence and propaganda used to perpetuate an attack.
Provide medical care in this country for the disabled victims still being born today from our bombings with depleted uranium.
Provide refuge for Iraqi's who still don't have homes because we destroyed them.
Make it a law that our military can only protect British borders and make pre-emptive strikes illegal.
Them repeat the same for every other illegitimate war we fought since WW2.
Oh and you said I was moaning, you think what you have been saying about immigrants and the poor isn't moaning?
Imbecile.
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It always comes back to muslim issues and Israel, over and over kung fu.
I know you are passionate, but there are other reasons wars occur.
Turkish muslims slaughtered Armenian christians in a genocide, and now muslims are slaughtering each other, and all Infidels they hate.
British people do get fed up having to feel guilty about what a few polticians decide to do, on foreign policy, and as Saddam and the Taliban were not nice, just like isis, when will muslim states sort their own shambles out?
Loving the denial by the out boys.
The overwhelming majority of both domestic and international financial institutions say an out vote will be disastrous for the UK, but they would rather believe the opinion of UKIP.
The financial argument has been lost by the out camp, if you still want out it can only be a "fear of foreigners" and not due to their monetary cost either as however much immigration may cost it is demonstrably far outweighed by the financial benefits of remaining in the EU.
What is it you out people really object about? Is it as simple as Eastern European food shops and hearing people talking a foreign language in the streets?
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 7 minutes ago
I also noticed you didn't address the crimes our country committed in Iraq, maybe your just embarrassed about the genocide we were complicit in.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm a proud Englishman, I love my country, unlike you you moaning p rick.
What do you want my country to do to atone for the Iraq invasion?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you love your country you'd recognise the tyranny within it. No country is perfect and you'd do well to notice that the UK's foreign policy has caused nothing but death and misery for millions of people around the globe.
What would I like OUR country to do to atone for the war crimes it committed?
Put Blair and his government on trial.
Give back every drop of oil we stole from them or it's weight in gold.
Give the contracts for rebuilding the nation to Iraqi's NOT the British.
Publicly apologies for the brutality of our military strategy and false evidence and propaganda used to perpetuate an attack.
Provide medical care in this country for the disabled victims still being born today from our bombings with depleted uranium.
Provide refuge for Iraqi's who still don't have homes because we destroyed them.
Make it a law that our military can only protect British borders and make pre-emptive strikes illegal.
Them repeat the same for every other illegitimate war we fought since WW2.
Oh and you said I was moaning, you think what you have been saying about immigrants and the poor isn't moaning?
Imbecile.
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Really kung fu.
Did Germany do that for us,or Usa for Japan, . Or the Ottoman empire to Europe.
Iraq fought Iran and invaded Kuwait....lovely place.
In your African continent, boko haram and al shabab are a cancer....are you aski g them to say sorry?
South Africa, libya, Nigeria, Sudan, Somalia etc are basket cases, and the west are not there.
Russia invades Crimea, and bombs Syria...go lecture Putin.
China has awful human rights...fix those bad boys.
Blair lied and got us into wars, but go fix the rest of the world too, and stop hating the nation you choose to live in.
Freedom of movement works in both directions.
The people of the Uk and across Europe are tired of muslim fanatics coming to livehere, and then tell g us howto live, while gloating about converting us to islam.
Sharia law is available elsewher.
comment by Sane (U19841)
posted 14 seconds ago
Loving the denial by the out boys.
The overwhelming majority of both domestic and international financial institutions say an out vote will be disastrous for the UK, but they would rather believe the opinion of UKIP.
The financial argument has been lost by the out camp, if you still want out it can only be a "fear of foreigners" and not due to their monetary cost either as however much immigration may cost it is demonstrably far outweighed by the financial benefits of remaining in the EU.
What is it you out people really object about? Is it as simple as Eastern European food shops and hearing people talking a foreign language in the streets?
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There is an element of people feeling like foreigners in their own land yes.
I think most people globally feelthis to a degree, and that is why groups live together.
If you have unemployment, why bring more jobseekers in...eh?
Big business love immigration and cheap labour.
thebluebells
I'm very proud to be British, that doesn't prevent me acknowledging this country has made mistakes.
Saying sorry and trying to atone for past errors is not to me a sign of weakness but of strength.
Pretending an entire countries history and actions are above criticism is what totalitarian regimes do.
I'm of the opinion that Britain has overwhelmingly been a force for good over its history. That does not mean we should hide from the mistakes we have made.
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Sideshow
Yes, I believe they can affect the value of your house.
comment by Sane (U19841)
posted 4 minutes ago
Loving the denial by the out boys.
The overwhelming majority of both domestic and international financial institutions say an out vote will be disastrous for the UK, but they would rather believe the opinion of UKIP.
The financial argument has been lost by the out camp, if you still want out it can only be a "fear of foreigners" and not due to their monetary cost either as however much immigration may cost it is demonstrably far outweighed by the financial benefits of remaining in the EU.
What is it you out people really object about? Is it as simple as Eastern European food shops and hearing people talking a foreign language in the streets?
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So you are cool with whites moving en masse to South Africa,or Israelis into Palestine....sweet.
White English are being made to feel alien in parts of England, where some do not like English faces or our native tongue.
White working class boys are bottom of the heap now, so start marching for their educational rights.
Perhaps, brits should just leave the Uk...sorted.
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 7 minutes ago
I also noticed you didn't address the crimes our country committed in Iraq, maybe your just embarrassed about the genocide we were complicit in.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm a proud Englishman, I love my country, unlike you you moaning p rick.
What do you want my country to do to atone for the Iraq invasion?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you love your country you'd recognise the tyranny within it. No country is perfect and you'd do well to notice that the UK's foreign policy has caused nothing but death and misery for millions of people around the globe.
What would I like OUR country to do to atone for the war crimes it committed?
Put Blair and his government on trial.
Give back every drop of oil we stole from them or it's weight in gold.
Give the contracts for rebuilding the nation to Iraqi's NOT the British.
Publicly apologies for the brutality of our military strategy and false evidence and propaganda used to perpetuate an attack.
Provide medical care in this country for the disabled victims still being born today from our bombings with depleted uranium.
Provide refuge for Iraqi's who still don't have homes because we destroyed them.
Make it a law that our military can only protect British borders and make pre-emptive strikes illegal.
Them repeat the same for every other illegitimate war we fought since WW2.
Oh and you said I was moaning, you think what you have been saying about immigrants and the poor isn't moaning?
Imbecile.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really kung fu.
Did Germany do that for us,or Usa for Japan, . Or the Ottoman empire to Europe.
Iraq fought Iran and invaded Kuwait....lovely place.
In your African continent, boko haram and al shabab are a cancer....are you aski g them to say sorry?
South Africa, libya, Nigeria, Sudan, Somalia etc are basket cases, and the west are not there.
Russia invades Crimea, and bombs Syria...go lecture Putin.
China has awful human rights...fix those bad boys.
Blair lied and got us into wars, but go fix the rest of the world too, and stop hating the nation you choose to live in.
Freedom of movement works in both directions.
The people of the Uk and across Europe are tired of muslim fanatics coming to livehere, and then tell g us howto live, while gloating about converting us to islam.
Sharia law is available elsewher.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
KFC Thinks religion in a p issing contest. I've lost count the amount of times he claims Islam is the fastest growing religion which obviously makes it the religion of all religions.
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah I come across those Muslim fanatics all the time...
in the Daily Mail
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Yet you still read it?
Thebluebells
"So you are cool with whites moving en masse to South Africa,or Israelis into Palestine....sweet."
Sorry, but I fail to see how that is in anyway relevant to my post.
"White English are being made to feel alien in parts of England"
Well I can only imagine those are people with very little confidence in thier own identity, it's like those odd straight people afraid of homosexuals who fear they may catch it or that every gay man is fantasising about them.
I live in a very multicultural area and have never felt intimidated. I happen to think it brilliant, I was in the park this afternoon and thier was a large group of teenage girls about 50% white and 25% each black and front the Indian subcontinent. Seeing that makes me proud of Britain.
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posted on 5/6/16
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by rossobianchi - Vote Drizzle! (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 33 minutes ago
Attack white English ch-Ava who don't want to work too. That's the drain on our taxes, not foreign or brown people
I don't recall mentioning colour. On fact white Australians are dab hands at ripping off the system.
Moving on, tell me exactly how a family of 9 coming from Eastern Europe to avail themselves of our free education, free healthcare and in their case, free housing actually benefits me personally.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For the 5,000th time, here are some undisputed facts:
1. The average EU immigrant is 50% more likely than your average British adult to hold a university degree
2. The average EU immigrant pays more tax than the average British adult
3. The average EU immigrant takes less in state benefits than the average British adult
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So, it would make sense for thick white working class brits to worry about mass immigration, by your own argument😉
I hear Remain want to curb non-EU immigration, the racist swine.
At least Leave oppose white EU immigration here.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I can only speak for one thick, white, working class Brit, and the current level of net immigration does not concern me
I don't believe we have a problem with the 'overcrowding' of the island, and would encourage people who think that way to visit, for example, the Netherlands.
The problems we have the provision of state healthcare, education and housing supply may be exacerbated by an increase in population; but the real underlying cause, in each case, is the failure of subsequent governments to focus resources and finances on those areas, in the case of the first two partly because those influencing and delivering against Conservative Party policy have an ideological and financial interest in the dissolution of the NHS and state education system (read, for example, comments in Gove's 2009 book about how the NHS is an anachronism and should be dissolved).
posted on 5/6/16
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 7 minutes ago
I also noticed you didn't address the crimes our country committed in Iraq, maybe your just embarrassed about the genocide we were complicit in.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm a proud Englishman, I love my country, unlike you you moaning p rick.
What do you want my country to do to atone for the Iraq invasion?
posted on 5/6/16
Why do EU States want us to stay.....they love us😮?
Self-determination and sovereignty are rights we gave away at our peril, even if corporations and big business will still control us.
posted on 5/6/16
We are the 5th largest economy in the world..of course the eu wants us to stay
posted on 5/6/16
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 9 minutes ago
For the 5,000th time, here are some undisputed facts:
1. The average EU immigrant is 50% more likely than your average British adult to hold a university degree
2. The average EU immigrant pays more tax than the average British adult
3. The average EU immigrant takes less in state benefits than the average British adult
For the 5,000th time, bollox.
Average's are misleading, that's why they can made to bolster any point:
Say 1 person earns £100k a year whilst his 2 neighbours earn minimum wage of about £15k a year.
That would mean the average wage wage for the 3 people is about £43k a year when the reality is the majority (our 2 minimum wagers) are actually earning a third of that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The bottom line is this:
The current regime is delivering long-term, net migration that has a positive impact on per capita tax take *and* dependency on state support.
Not even the Leave campaign is arguing against that fact, and it is the main reason why not a single major political party is interested in curbing migration.
posted on 5/6/16
Big business supports the political parties, big business benefits most from an influx of cheap labour. That's why all thes multi-nationals want us to vote Remain.
posted on 5/6/16
Binky
You are at crap wummer..don't try and go there
posted on 5/6/16
*Big business supports the political parties financially.
posted on 5/6/16
I'm not fekin wumming ffs.
posted on 5/6/16
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 7 minutes ago
I also noticed you didn't address the crimes our country committed in Iraq, maybe your just embarrassed about the genocide we were complicit in.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm a proud Englishman, I love my country, unlike you you moaning p rick.
What do you want my country to do to atone for the Iraq invasion?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you love your country you'd recognise the tyranny within it. No country is perfect and you'd do well to notice that the UK's foreign policy has caused nothing but death and misery for millions of people around the globe.
What would I like OUR country to do to atone for the war crimes it committed?
Put Blair and his government on trial.
Give back every drop of oil we stole from them or it's weight in gold.
Give the contracts for rebuilding the nation to Iraqi's NOT the British.
Publicly apologies for the brutality of our military strategy and false evidence and propaganda used to perpetuate an attack.
Provide medical care in this country for the disabled victims still being born today from our bombings with depleted uranium.
Provide refuge for Iraqi's who still don't have homes because we destroyed them.
Make it a law that our military can only protect British borders and make pre-emptive strikes illegal.
Them repeat the same for every other illegitimate war we fought since WW2.
Oh and you said I was moaning, you think what you have been saying about immigrants and the poor isn't moaning?
Imbecile.
posted on 5/6/16
comment by rossobianchi - Vote Drizzle! (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by rossobianchi - Vote Drizzle! (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 33 minutes ago
Attack white English ch-Ava who don't want to work too. That's the drain on our taxes, not foreign or brown people
I don't recall mentioning colour. On fact white Australians are dab hands at ripping off the system.
Moving on, tell me exactly how a family of 9 coming from Eastern Europe to avail themselves of our free education, free healthcare and in their case, free housing actually benefits me personally.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For the 5,000th time, here are some undisputed facts:
1. The average EU immigrant is 50% more likely than your average British adult to hold a university degree
2. The average EU immigrant pays more tax than the average British adult
3. The average EU immigrant takes less in state benefits than the average British adult
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So, it would make sense for thick white working class brits to worry about mass immigration, by your own argument😉
I hear Remain want to curb non-EU immigration, the racist swine.
At least Leave oppose white EU immigration here.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I can only speak for one thick, white, working class Brit, and the current level of net immigration does not concern me
I don't believe we have a problem with the 'overcrowding' of the island, and would encourage people who think that way to visit, for example, the Netherlands.
The problems we have the provision of state healthcare, education and housing supply may be exacerbated by an increase in population; but the real underlying cause, in each case, is the failure of subsequent governments to focus resources and finances on those areas, in the case of the first two partly because those influencing and delivering against Conservative Party policy have an ideological and financial interest in the dissolution of the NHS and state education system (read, for example, comments in Gove's 2009 book about how the NHS is an anachronism and should be dissolved).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed, toryand labour policies on the Nhs and immigration have been dire.
There is a racist tint to some immigration concerns,,but as most arrivals recently are white, this is complex.
The future direction of the Eu super state and eurozone concerns me, and as poor nations join to get our aid, I fear Germany and France want our money.
Social cohesion is affected when towns and cities change rapidly as people dislike change....that may be racist or narrowminded, even though brits are generally tolerant.
For me, the Eu is about big business, banks and folk such as Cameron and Merkel keeping power.
Telling small business people and fishermen how to do their job is an EU hobby, and why do said workers want to Leave, whereas the IMF and bid businesses want us to Remain.
Why is that?
posted on 5/6/16
Lets go bankrupt and give all the money to Iraq?
posted on 6/6/16
comment by rossobianchi - Vote Drizzle! (U17054)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 9 minutes ago
For the 5,000th time, here are some undisputed facts:
1. The average EU immigrant is 50% more likely than your average British adult to hold a university degree
2. The average EU immigrant pays more tax than the average British adult
3. The average EU immigrant takes less in state benefits than the average British adult
For the 5,000th time, bollox.
Average's are misleading, that's why they can made to bolster any point:
Say 1 person earns £100k a year whilst his 2 neighbours earn minimum wage of about £15k a year.
That would mean the average wage wage for the 3 people is about £43k a year when the reality is the majority (our 2 minimum wagers) are actually earning a third of that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The bottom line is this:
The current regime is delivering long-term, net migration that has a positive impact on per capita tax take *and* dependency on state support.
Not even the Leave campaign is arguing against that fact, and it is the main reason why not a single major political party is interested in curbing migration.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wrong, tories were shocked about latest stats on immigration being triple what Cameron pledged and even Corbyn admits mass immigration is a reasonable issue for voters.
Why pretend this is not swinging voters to Leave.
Many immigrants and folk who came here in recent decades live off benefits, and I see this daily in Dwp.
The whole immigrants are all hard working citizens is cobblers.
Check out benefit centres.The real world.
posted on 6/6/16
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 5 minutes ago
Lets go bankrupt and give all the money to Iraq?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No.
Scrap trident and pay them off with that.
Or we can just pretend we haven't helped turn the middle east into a giant crater full to the brim with blood.
Do you love your country enough not to give a schit about human life as well? How patriotic.
posted on 6/6/16
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 7 minutes ago
I also noticed you didn't address the crimes our country committed in Iraq, maybe your just embarrassed about the genocide we were complicit in.
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I'm a proud Englishman, I love my country, unlike you you moaning p rick.
What do you want my country to do to atone for the Iraq invasion?
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If you love your country you'd recognise the tyranny within it. No country is perfect and you'd do well to notice that the UK's foreign policy has caused nothing but death and misery for millions of people around the globe.
What would I like OUR country to do to atone for the war crimes it committed?
Put Blair and his government on trial.
Give back every drop of oil we stole from them or it's weight in gold.
Give the contracts for rebuilding the nation to Iraqi's NOT the British.
Publicly apologies for the brutality of our military strategy and false evidence and propaganda used to perpetuate an attack.
Provide medical care in this country for the disabled victims still being born today from our bombings with depleted uranium.
Provide refuge for Iraqi's who still don't have homes because we destroyed them.
Make it a law that our military can only protect British borders and make pre-emptive strikes illegal.
Them repeat the same for every other illegitimate war we fought since WW2.
Oh and you said I was moaning, you think what you have been saying about immigrants and the poor isn't moaning?
Imbecile.
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It always comes back to muslim issues and Israel, over and over kung fu.
I know you are passionate, but there are other reasons wars occur.
Turkish muslims slaughtered Armenian christians in a genocide, and now muslims are slaughtering each other, and all Infidels they hate.
British people do get fed up having to feel guilty about what a few polticians decide to do, on foreign policy, and as Saddam and the Taliban were not nice, just like isis, when will muslim states sort their own shambles out?
posted on 6/6/16
Loving the denial by the out boys.
The overwhelming majority of both domestic and international financial institutions say an out vote will be disastrous for the UK, but they would rather believe the opinion of UKIP.
The financial argument has been lost by the out camp, if you still want out it can only be a "fear of foreigners" and not due to their monetary cost either as however much immigration may cost it is demonstrably far outweighed by the financial benefits of remaining in the EU.
What is it you out people really object about? Is it as simple as Eastern European food shops and hearing people talking a foreign language in the streets?
posted on 6/6/16
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 7 minutes ago
I also noticed you didn't address the crimes our country committed in Iraq, maybe your just embarrassed about the genocide we were complicit in.
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I'm a proud Englishman, I love my country, unlike you you moaning p rick.
What do you want my country to do to atone for the Iraq invasion?
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If you love your country you'd recognise the tyranny within it. No country is perfect and you'd do well to notice that the UK's foreign policy has caused nothing but death and misery for millions of people around the globe.
What would I like OUR country to do to atone for the war crimes it committed?
Put Blair and his government on trial.
Give back every drop of oil we stole from them or it's weight in gold.
Give the contracts for rebuilding the nation to Iraqi's NOT the British.
Publicly apologies for the brutality of our military strategy and false evidence and propaganda used to perpetuate an attack.
Provide medical care in this country for the disabled victims still being born today from our bombings with depleted uranium.
Provide refuge for Iraqi's who still don't have homes because we destroyed them.
Make it a law that our military can only protect British borders and make pre-emptive strikes illegal.
Them repeat the same for every other illegitimate war we fought since WW2.
Oh and you said I was moaning, you think what you have been saying about immigrants and the poor isn't moaning?
Imbecile.
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Really kung fu.
Did Germany do that for us,or Usa for Japan, . Or the Ottoman empire to Europe.
Iraq fought Iran and invaded Kuwait....lovely place.
In your African continent, boko haram and al shabab are a cancer....are you aski g them to say sorry?
South Africa, libya, Nigeria, Sudan, Somalia etc are basket cases, and the west are not there.
Russia invades Crimea, and bombs Syria...go lecture Putin.
China has awful human rights...fix those bad boys.
Blair lied and got us into wars, but go fix the rest of the world too, and stop hating the nation you choose to live in.
Freedom of movement works in both directions.
The people of the Uk and across Europe are tired of muslim fanatics coming to livehere, and then tell g us howto live, while gloating about converting us to islam.
Sharia law is available elsewher.
posted on 6/6/16
comment by Sane (U19841)
posted 14 seconds ago
Loving the denial by the out boys.
The overwhelming majority of both domestic and international financial institutions say an out vote will be disastrous for the UK, but they would rather believe the opinion of UKIP.
The financial argument has been lost by the out camp, if you still want out it can only be a "fear of foreigners" and not due to their monetary cost either as however much immigration may cost it is demonstrably far outweighed by the financial benefits of remaining in the EU.
What is it you out people really object about? Is it as simple as Eastern European food shops and hearing people talking a foreign language in the streets?
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There is an element of people feeling like foreigners in their own land yes.
I think most people globally feelthis to a degree, and that is why groups live together.
If you have unemployment, why bring more jobseekers in...eh?
Big business love immigration and cheap labour.
posted on 6/6/16
thebluebells
I'm very proud to be British, that doesn't prevent me acknowledging this country has made mistakes.
Saying sorry and trying to atone for past errors is not to me a sign of weakness but of strength.
Pretending an entire countries history and actions are above criticism is what totalitarian regimes do.
I'm of the opinion that Britain has overwhelmingly been a force for good over its history. That does not mean we should hide from the mistakes we have made.
posted on 6/6/16
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posted on 6/6/16
Sideshow
Yes, I believe they can affect the value of your house.
posted on 6/6/16
comment by Sane (U19841)
posted 4 minutes ago
Loving the denial by the out boys.
The overwhelming majority of both domestic and international financial institutions say an out vote will be disastrous for the UK, but they would rather believe the opinion of UKIP.
The financial argument has been lost by the out camp, if you still want out it can only be a "fear of foreigners" and not due to their monetary cost either as however much immigration may cost it is demonstrably far outweighed by the financial benefits of remaining in the EU.
What is it you out people really object about? Is it as simple as Eastern European food shops and hearing people talking a foreign language in the streets?
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So you are cool with whites moving en masse to South Africa,or Israelis into Palestine....sweet.
White English are being made to feel alien in parts of England, where some do not like English faces or our native tongue.
White working class boys are bottom of the heap now, so start marching for their educational rights.
Perhaps, brits should just leave the Uk...sorted.
posted on 6/6/16
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 7 minutes ago
I also noticed you didn't address the crimes our country committed in Iraq, maybe your just embarrassed about the genocide we were complicit in.
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I'm a proud Englishman, I love my country, unlike you you moaning p rick.
What do you want my country to do to atone for the Iraq invasion?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you love your country you'd recognise the tyranny within it. No country is perfect and you'd do well to notice that the UK's foreign policy has caused nothing but death and misery for millions of people around the globe.
What would I like OUR country to do to atone for the war crimes it committed?
Put Blair and his government on trial.
Give back every drop of oil we stole from them or it's weight in gold.
Give the contracts for rebuilding the nation to Iraqi's NOT the British.
Publicly apologies for the brutality of our military strategy and false evidence and propaganda used to perpetuate an attack.
Provide medical care in this country for the disabled victims still being born today from our bombings with depleted uranium.
Provide refuge for Iraqi's who still don't have homes because we destroyed them.
Make it a law that our military can only protect British borders and make pre-emptive strikes illegal.
Them repeat the same for every other illegitimate war we fought since WW2.
Oh and you said I was moaning, you think what you have been saying about immigrants and the poor isn't moaning?
Imbecile.
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Really kung fu.
Did Germany do that for us,or Usa for Japan, . Or the Ottoman empire to Europe.
Iraq fought Iran and invaded Kuwait....lovely place.
In your African continent, boko haram and al shabab are a cancer....are you aski g them to say sorry?
South Africa, libya, Nigeria, Sudan, Somalia etc are basket cases, and the west are not there.
Russia invades Crimea, and bombs Syria...go lecture Putin.
China has awful human rights...fix those bad boys.
Blair lied and got us into wars, but go fix the rest of the world too, and stop hating the nation you choose to live in.
Freedom of movement works in both directions.
The people of the Uk and across Europe are tired of muslim fanatics coming to livehere, and then tell g us howto live, while gloating about converting us to islam.
Sharia law is available elsewher.
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KFC Thinks religion in a p issing contest. I've lost count the amount of times he claims Islam is the fastest growing religion which obviously makes it the religion of all religions.
posted on 6/6/16
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah I come across those Muslim fanatics all the time...
in the Daily Mail
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Yet you still read it?
posted on 6/6/16
Thebluebells
"So you are cool with whites moving en masse to South Africa,or Israelis into Palestine....sweet."
Sorry, but I fail to see how that is in anyway relevant to my post.
"White English are being made to feel alien in parts of England"
Well I can only imagine those are people with very little confidence in thier own identity, it's like those odd straight people afraid of homosexuals who fear they may catch it or that every gay man is fantasising about them.
I live in a very multicultural area and have never felt intimidated. I happen to think it brilliant, I was in the park this afternoon and thier was a large group of teenage girls about 50% white and 25% each black and front the Indian subcontinent. Seeing that makes me proud of Britain.
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