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Are people still voting or is it just informal debate now.
I will do a count so far soon.
Shall I go on**
erm, if you like...list them all but the statement of most terrorist attacks are homegrown is BS
I'll be voting out Shinji, at the risk of the 'world ending' on june 24th
I think that homegrown is a misnomer, they may have been born and grown up here but they certainly should not be regarded as british. The same as the Paris attacks.
Sizzle you could have stopped 7/7
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 23 seconds ago
but the statement of most terrorist attacks are homegrown is BS
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I assume you have proof to back up this statement?
Please give us a few examples of terrorist attacks in Britain that were NOT perpetrated by British citizens (radicalized or not). I'm sure you must know of loads for you to have made such a bold statement
really?
Your turn then, I've given three by British nationals, four as let's add the Brick Lane and Soho nail bomber.
Prove me wrong about most by coming up with four or five by foreign nationals.
Please give us a few examples of terrorist attacks in Britain that were NOT perpetrated by British citizens**
who's talking about Britain?
I didn't make the statement, I said it was BS dear me......
Prove me wrong about most by coming up with four or five by foreign nationals.**
is this a gameshow now?
You guys make me laugh
Sizzle you could have stopped 7/7**
he was probably stoned
Shinji
Make sure you only count Sizzle as 1 vote!! not his number of posts.
I am Leave
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 11 minutes ago
Shall I go on**
erm, if you like...list them all but the statement of most terrorist attacks are homegrown is BS
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Well, it's not BS, it's statistical fact.
Historically and recently, the vast majority of terrorist attacks in Europe have been separatist (and almost by definition, homegrown), rather than perpetrated for other political reasons or in the name of religeon.
Over 80% of those perpetrating terrorist attacks in Europe are born, raised and become radicalised in Europe.
It is a very similar story in the US, where more than 80% of all terrorist attacks since 9/11 have been perpetrated by Americans.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_European_Union
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
That's ok, but what are your feelings on America having absolutely no respect for human life on this Island? **
America has absolutely no respect for human life on this island shocker**
you really are a nutjob
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America England isreal evil, Islam good.
It's his thing!
Throughout this thread, when pushed, Really has been unable to support his views with any supporting factual information.
So not sure why folks are pressing him on this (homegrown terrorist attacks) point.
His mind was made up (to leave) long before this thread was penned, and no amount of debate or information (to counter opinion) will change that.
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 9 minutes ago
I think that homegrown is a misnomer, they may have been born and grown up here but they certainly should not be regarded as british. The same as the Paris attacks.
Sizzle you could have stopped 7/7
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Eh?
If you are born in Britain to British parents, and are raised and reside in Britain, how are you anything other than British?!
comment by LQ no kato not now (U6305)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
That's ok, but what are your feelings on America having absolutely no respect for human life on this Island? **
America has absolutely no respect for human life on this island shocker**
you really are a nutjob
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America England isreal evil, Islam good.
It's his thing!
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The Governments are, yes.
I see you can't confront the fact that America don't care about the people here and almost killed millions of us.
Anything to say about that?
His mind was made up (to leave) long before this thread was penned, and no amount of debate or information (to counter opinion) will change that**
there is no real 'information' though, it's just people's opinions being put across in quite an aggressive way, if you are undecided and reading this thread don't believe the hype on the EU
If you are born in Britain to British parents, and are raised and reside in Britain, how are you anything other than British?!**
Kung-Fu Je Suiz Palestinian*
Historically and recently, the vast majority of terrorist attacks in Europe have been separatist (and almost by definition, homegrown), rather than perpetrated for other political reasons or in the name of religeon.
-----------------------------------
Indeed. Society creates a vacuum for disenfranchised local youth to be radicalised on the right, left and through religion.
Thats why its so important to give young power in society and why things like democracy are so important and why things like well paid jobs are so important.
France for example are now where we were in early 2000s. Where muslim youth were marginalised with high unemployment and no prospects. They are vulnerable to be radicalised. Its happening with the far right as well. High youth unemployment from the failed Euro experiment is a disaster for a whole generation of youth across Europe.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 minute ago
Historically and recently, the vast majority of terrorist attacks in Europe have been separatist (and almost by definition, homegrown), rather than perpetrated for other political reasons or in the name of religeon.
-----------------------------------
Indeed. Society creates a vacuum for disenfranchised local youth to be radicalised on the right, left and through religion.
Thats why its so important to give young power in society and why things like democracy are so important and why things like well paid jobs are so important.
France for example are now where we were in early 2000s. Where muslim youth were marginalised with high unemployment and no prospects. They are vulnerable to be radicalised. Its happening with the far right as well. High youth unemployment from the failed Euro experiment is a disaster for a whole generation of youth across Europe.
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Agreed with you entirely until your last sentence
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 3 minutes ago
If you are born in Britain to British parents, and are raised and reside in Britain, how are you anything other than British?!**
Kung-Fu Je Suiz Palestinian*
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If he was born in Britain to British parents, and was raised and resides in Britain, whether you or he likes it or not, he is British.
comment by rossobianchi - Vote Drizzle! (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 3 minutes ago
If you are born in Britain to British parents, and are raised and reside in Britain, how are you anything other than British?!**
Kung-Fu Je Suiz Palestinian*
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If he was born in Britain to British parents, and was raised and resides in Britain, whether you or he likes it or not, he is British.
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Haha brown people aren't British Rosso, don't be silly.
comment by rossobianchi - Vote Drizzle! (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 minute ago
Historically and recently, the vast majority of terrorist attacks in Europe have been separatist (and almost by definition, homegrown), rather than perpetrated for other political reasons or in the name of religeon.
-----------------------------------
Indeed. Society creates a vacuum for disenfranchised local youth to be radicalised on the right, left and through religion.
Thats why its so important to give young power in society and why things like democracy are so important and why things like well paid jobs are so important.
France for example are now where we were in early 2000s. Where muslim youth were marginalised with high unemployment and no prospects. They are vulnerable to be radicalised. Its happening with the far right as well. High youth unemployment from the failed Euro experiment is a disaster for a whole generation of youth across Europe.
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Agreed with you entirely until your last sentence
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Its true. Muslims, blacks, white working class all in the same boat when it comes wage suppression. And why are their wages low? Youth moving from Italy, Spain, Greece, Portugal, Romania, Poland etc to find jobs in UK and creating more supply than demand. Why are they moving? High unemployment in those countries because of the Euro.
Only Chinese and Indian origin youngsters have moved up the ladder through, education and entrepreneurial spirit to escape that trap. Its one reason for hope because those countries are still growing and we have deep historical and economic ties. Thats where future prosperity lies.
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 5 minutes ago
The West can't win can they? They go into Iraq and get rid of Saddam, the guy responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of his own people,and then they get grief for not doing more to get rid of Assad.
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The west get grief for causing more death and destruction in Iraq then Saddam could have dreamed of.
If you think we went in for Saddam you are deluded, it's accepted now that our government lied about WMD's for oil.
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What I've leant from reading your posts is that you don't seem to care about the Kurds,You don't care about Yazidis, you don't seem to be that bothered by the death of Muslims by the hands of fellow Muslim. You just want an excuse to bi tch about a country that gave your family a better life, you Sir are an ungrateful fecker. Why don't you put you degree to good use and feck off to Iraq and help the people you care for so much.
You don't even know how many people Saddam killed, you've just decided to pick and chose what crap you find on the net that suits your argument.
Can you show me governments that care about our lives over here?
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posted on 7/6/16
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 7/6/16
Are people still voting or is it just informal debate now.
I will do a count so far soon.
posted on 7/6/16
Shall I go on**
erm, if you like...list them all but the statement of most terrorist attacks are homegrown is BS
posted on 7/6/16
I'll be voting out Shinji, at the risk of the 'world ending' on june 24th
posted on 7/6/16
I think that homegrown is a misnomer, they may have been born and grown up here but they certainly should not be regarded as british. The same as the Paris attacks.
Sizzle you could have stopped 7/7
posted on 7/6/16
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 23 seconds ago
but the statement of most terrorist attacks are homegrown is BS
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I assume you have proof to back up this statement?
Please give us a few examples of terrorist attacks in Britain that were NOT perpetrated by British citizens (radicalized or not). I'm sure you must know of loads for you to have made such a bold statement
posted on 7/6/16
really?
Your turn then, I've given three by British nationals, four as let's add the Brick Lane and Soho nail bomber.
Prove me wrong about most by coming up with four or five by foreign nationals.
posted on 7/6/16
Please give us a few examples of terrorist attacks in Britain that were NOT perpetrated by British citizens**
who's talking about Britain?
I didn't make the statement, I said it was BS dear me......
posted on 7/6/16
Prove me wrong about most by coming up with four or five by foreign nationals.**
is this a gameshow now?
You guys make me laugh
posted on 7/6/16
Sizzle you could have stopped 7/7**
he was probably stoned
posted on 7/6/16
Shinji
Make sure you only count Sizzle as 1 vote!! not his number of posts.
I am Leave
posted on 7/6/16
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 11 minutes ago
Shall I go on**
erm, if you like...list them all but the statement of most terrorist attacks are homegrown is BS
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, it's not BS, it's statistical fact.
Historically and recently, the vast majority of terrorist attacks in Europe have been separatist (and almost by definition, homegrown), rather than perpetrated for other political reasons or in the name of religeon.
Over 80% of those perpetrating terrorist attacks in Europe are born, raised and become radicalised in Europe.
It is a very similar story in the US, where more than 80% of all terrorist attacks since 9/11 have been perpetrated by Americans.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_European_Union
posted on 7/6/16
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
That's ok, but what are your feelings on America having absolutely no respect for human life on this Island? **
America has absolutely no respect for human life on this island shocker**
you really are a nutjob
----------------------------------------------------------------------
America England isreal evil, Islam good.
It's his thing!
posted on 7/6/16
Throughout this thread, when pushed, Really has been unable to support his views with any supporting factual information.
So not sure why folks are pressing him on this (homegrown terrorist attacks) point.
His mind was made up (to leave) long before this thread was penned, and no amount of debate or information (to counter opinion) will change that.
posted on 7/6/16
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 9 minutes ago
I think that homegrown is a misnomer, they may have been born and grown up here but they certainly should not be regarded as british. The same as the Paris attacks.
Sizzle you could have stopped 7/7
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Eh?
If you are born in Britain to British parents, and are raised and reside in Britain, how are you anything other than British?!
posted on 7/6/16
comment by LQ no kato not now (U6305)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
That's ok, but what are your feelings on America having absolutely no respect for human life on this Island? **
America has absolutely no respect for human life on this island shocker**
you really are a nutjob
----------------------------------------------------------------------
America England isreal evil, Islam good.
It's his thing!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Governments are, yes.
I see you can't confront the fact that America don't care about the people here and almost killed millions of us.
Anything to say about that?
posted on 7/6/16
His mind was made up (to leave) long before this thread was penned, and no amount of debate or information (to counter opinion) will change that**
there is no real 'information' though, it's just people's opinions being put across in quite an aggressive way, if you are undecided and reading this thread don't believe the hype on the EU
posted on 7/6/16
If you are born in Britain to British parents, and are raised and reside in Britain, how are you anything other than British?!**
Kung-Fu Je Suiz Palestinian*
posted on 7/6/16
Historically and recently, the vast majority of terrorist attacks in Europe have been separatist (and almost by definition, homegrown), rather than perpetrated for other political reasons or in the name of religeon.
-----------------------------------
Indeed. Society creates a vacuum for disenfranchised local youth to be radicalised on the right, left and through religion.
Thats why its so important to give young power in society and why things like democracy are so important and why things like well paid jobs are so important.
France for example are now where we were in early 2000s. Where muslim youth were marginalised with high unemployment and no prospects. They are vulnerable to be radicalised. Its happening with the far right as well. High youth unemployment from the failed Euro experiment is a disaster for a whole generation of youth across Europe.
posted on 7/6/16
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 minute ago
Historically and recently, the vast majority of terrorist attacks in Europe have been separatist (and almost by definition, homegrown), rather than perpetrated for other political reasons or in the name of religeon.
-----------------------------------
Indeed. Society creates a vacuum for disenfranchised local youth to be radicalised on the right, left and through religion.
Thats why its so important to give young power in society and why things like democracy are so important and why things like well paid jobs are so important.
France for example are now where we were in early 2000s. Where muslim youth were marginalised with high unemployment and no prospects. They are vulnerable to be radicalised. Its happening with the far right as well. High youth unemployment from the failed Euro experiment is a disaster for a whole generation of youth across Europe.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed with you entirely until your last sentence
posted on 7/6/16
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 3 minutes ago
If you are born in Britain to British parents, and are raised and reside in Britain, how are you anything other than British?!**
Kung-Fu Je Suiz Palestinian*
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If he was born in Britain to British parents, and was raised and resides in Britain, whether you or he likes it or not, he is British.
posted on 7/6/16
comment by rossobianchi - Vote Drizzle! (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 3 minutes ago
If you are born in Britain to British parents, and are raised and reside in Britain, how are you anything other than British?!**
Kung-Fu Je Suiz Palestinian*
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If he was born in Britain to British parents, and was raised and resides in Britain, whether you or he likes it or not, he is British.
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Haha brown people aren't British Rosso, don't be silly.
posted on 7/6/16
comment by rossobianchi - Vote Drizzle! (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 minute ago
Historically and recently, the vast majority of terrorist attacks in Europe have been separatist (and almost by definition, homegrown), rather than perpetrated for other political reasons or in the name of religeon.
-----------------------------------
Indeed. Society creates a vacuum for disenfranchised local youth to be radicalised on the right, left and through religion.
Thats why its so important to give young power in society and why things like democracy are so important and why things like well paid jobs are so important.
France for example are now where we were in early 2000s. Where muslim youth were marginalised with high unemployment and no prospects. They are vulnerable to be radicalised. Its happening with the far right as well. High youth unemployment from the failed Euro experiment is a disaster for a whole generation of youth across Europe.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed with you entirely until your last sentence
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its true. Muslims, blacks, white working class all in the same boat when it comes wage suppression. And why are their wages low? Youth moving from Italy, Spain, Greece, Portugal, Romania, Poland etc to find jobs in UK and creating more supply than demand. Why are they moving? High unemployment in those countries because of the Euro.
Only Chinese and Indian origin youngsters have moved up the ladder through, education and entrepreneurial spirit to escape that trap. Its one reason for hope because those countries are still growing and we have deep historical and economic ties. Thats where future prosperity lies.
posted on 7/6/16
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 5 minutes ago
The West can't win can they? They go into Iraq and get rid of Saddam, the guy responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of his own people,and then they get grief for not doing more to get rid of Assad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The west get grief for causing more death and destruction in Iraq then Saddam could have dreamed of.
If you think we went in for Saddam you are deluded, it's accepted now that our government lied about WMD's for oil.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What I've leant from reading your posts is that you don't seem to care about the Kurds,You don't care about Yazidis, you don't seem to be that bothered by the death of Muslims by the hands of fellow Muslim. You just want an excuse to bi tch about a country that gave your family a better life, you Sir are an ungrateful fecker. Why don't you put you degree to good use and feck off to Iraq and help the people you care for so much.
You don't even know how many people Saddam killed, you've just decided to pick and chose what crap you find on the net that suits your argument.
posted on 7/6/16
Can you show me governments that care about our lives over here?
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