Flee war in Syria - Refugee
Arrive in Serbia Refugee
Decide to head to UK for better standard of living - Economic migrant.
It isn't difficult guys.
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 3 minutes ago
Again the OED has a hint here.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/migrant
'A person who moves from one place to another in order to find work or better living conditions.'
Are we getting through to you yet.
FFS take that chip off your shoulder and face facts, You are talking bоllоcks
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Genghis in your definition there, it is describing what a migrant is.
The OED also has a definition for a refugee.
Yes & I also provided a link to it. Here I'll post it again as you seem to have missed it.
The OED definition of refugee can be found here:
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/refugee
'A person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster'
Ibriham was fleeing persecution NOT war.
comment by sᴉɥƃuǝlפ (U19365)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
The article never confuses the two, EVER!
*** The article (not the heading) states there are migrants and refugees in 'the jungle'. Is this correct? Yes it is.***
In fact if you cycle down and flick through the pictures it carefully labels who is a migrant, refugee or asylum seeker.
*** And nowhere in those pictures does it mention Ibrahim by name ***
The article it self is specific to refugees.
*** No it isn't. The article clearly mentions migrants AND refugees. ***
It's you manipulation of a persons job description which has caused description.
*** Where have I manipulated a person's job description? I haven't so you're just lying to try and back up your story ***
The article states he is a refugee now get over it.
*** It also states migrant. Get over it ***
You are clearly trying (like RDD) to label desperate individuals escaping horrible situations as migrants.
They aren't. Not an opinion. The UN says so.
*** It is an opinion. It is the opinion of Céline Schmitt. If the UN said that a refugee was a pink spotted banana would that be correct? ***
Everything you have said is speculative.
*** No it isn't. Everything I have said about refugees & migrants is is correct and factual as defined in the Oxford English Dictionary ***
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I'm not going over the same points you have manipulated multiple times.
They are referred to as refugees and the article refers to migrants in a different context.
Carry on spinning.
Anyway, I'm off home so will be unavailable for approx. 1.5 hours.
comment by Reddevilsdouble - give peace a chance (U12215)
posted 4 minutes ago
Flee war in Syria - Refugee
Arrive in Serbia Refugee
Decide to head to UK for better standard of living - Economic migrant.
I'm
It isn't difficult guys.
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I understand it RDD its just thatyiu definition has no legal bases.
The UN does though and they contradict what you claim.
If the UNHCR has shown an example of how a refugee can turn into a migrant fine.
As far as I am concerned whatever reason they are leaving their homes they "enjoy" the status that this reason confers.
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble - give peace a chance (U12215)
posted 4 minutes ago
Flee war in Syria - Refugee
Arrive in Serbia Refugee
Decide to head to UK for better standard of living - Economic migrant.
I'm
It isn't difficult guys.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I understand it RDD its just thatyiu definition has no legal bases.
The UN does though and they contradict what you claim.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What about the Dublin regulation?
Haha brilliant so you don't actually have any evidence.
I tell you what lads, stay in ignorant bliss while the UN and others carry on recognising these victims as refugees.
Packing for a trip over the weekend now. I'll be careful not walk across any borders. They might mistake me for a migrant and not a tourist.
The Dublin Regulation aims to “determine rapidly the Member State responsible [for an asylum claim]”[1] and provides for the transfer of an asylum seeker to that Member State. Usually, the responsible Member State will be the state through which the asylum seeker first entered the EU.
Why would the EU have a regulation designed to return refugees to the first member state if they can choose to go where they like???
20 pages of arguing about the definition of a refugee. You boys
And then rdd brings in asylum!
Refugees seek asylum red. 👍
Whether refugees seek asylum or not is immaterial, they are refugees from the moment they flee their country until they arrive at their chosen country.
Or if they then decide to move to somewhere better in their eyes when they become economic migrants.
SO
A refugee is a person who has to leave his country in fear of his life. He remains a refugee until he arrives at a country of his choice that welcomes him.
And economic migrant is someone who has settled (or been born) in a country and decides to move to another to improve his standard of living.
And I don't care what Collins dictionary or the UN says.
52 - wrong at every turn bud.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
SO
A refugee is a person who has to leave his country in fear of his life.
*** Correct. ***
He remains a refugee until he arrives at a country of his choice that welcomes him.
*** Wrong. He is a refugee until he reaches any country which can be classified as a safe haven where he can claim asylum. ***
An economic migrant is someone who has settled (or been born) in a country and decides to move to another to improve his standard of living.
*** Wrong again (partially). Any refugee who chooses not to claim asylum in the first safe haven becomes a migrant the moment he leaves that safe haven UNLESS he is granted refugee status in his destination country. If they do not qualify for refugee status when they start their journey then they are an economic migrant. ***
And I don't care what Collins dictionary or the UN says.
*** So you are the world authority on when a refugee becomes a migrant.
Nope, you are just another ill informed bigott. ***
Once you use the phrase 'I don't care what xxxx authority says' you have already lost the debate and any further discussion is impossible as you have already stated you will not listen and for that reason, I am out.
Looks as ifremain edge it, so fair play....democracy in action.
Hard luck leave,but we made our opinion known, and the Eu has to listen to us in future.
"and the Eu has to listen to us in future."
actually now they can p(ss all over us at will as they know we won't vote on it again
it's open season on Britain for France and Germany.
You know nothing until results come in..
Farage..what a weasel..concedes I min after polls close.. Not a bloke you would want in your trench.. A complete coward.. He might yet win
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posted on 23/6/16
Flee war in Syria - Refugee
Arrive in Serbia Refugee
Decide to head to UK for better standard of living - Economic migrant.
It isn't difficult guys.
posted on 23/6/16
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 3 minutes ago
Again the OED has a hint here.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/migrant
'A person who moves from one place to another in order to find work or better living conditions.'
Are we getting through to you yet.
FFS take that chip off your shoulder and face facts, You are talking bоllоcks
------
Genghis in your definition there, it is describing what a migrant is.
The OED also has a definition for a refugee.
Yes & I also provided a link to it. Here I'll post it again as you seem to have missed it.
The OED definition of refugee can be found here:
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/refugee
'A person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster'
Ibriham was fleeing persecution NOT war.
posted on 23/6/16
comment by sᴉɥƃuǝlפ (U19365)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
The article never confuses the two, EVER!
*** The article (not the heading) states there are migrants and refugees in 'the jungle'. Is this correct? Yes it is.***
In fact if you cycle down and flick through the pictures it carefully labels who is a migrant, refugee or asylum seeker.
*** And nowhere in those pictures does it mention Ibrahim by name ***
The article it self is specific to refugees.
*** No it isn't. The article clearly mentions migrants AND refugees. ***
It's you manipulation of a persons job description which has caused description.
*** Where have I manipulated a person's job description? I haven't so you're just lying to try and back up your story ***
The article states he is a refugee now get over it.
*** It also states migrant. Get over it ***
You are clearly trying (like RDD) to label desperate individuals escaping horrible situations as migrants.
They aren't. Not an opinion. The UN says so.
*** It is an opinion. It is the opinion of Céline Schmitt. If the UN said that a refugee was a pink spotted banana would that be correct? ***
Everything you have said is speculative.
*** No it isn't. Everything I have said about refugees & migrants is is correct and factual as defined in the Oxford English Dictionary ***
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not going over the same points you have manipulated multiple times.
They are referred to as refugees and the article refers to migrants in a different context.
Carry on spinning.
posted on 23/6/16
Anyway, I'm off home so will be unavailable for approx. 1.5 hours.
posted on 23/6/16
comment by Reddevilsdouble - give peace a chance (U12215)
posted 4 minutes ago
Flee war in Syria - Refugee
Arrive in Serbia Refugee
Decide to head to UK for better standard of living - Economic migrant.
I'm
It isn't difficult guys.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I understand it RDD its just thatyiu definition has no legal bases.
The UN does though and they contradict what you claim.
posted on 23/6/16
If the UNHCR has shown an example of how a refugee can turn into a migrant fine.
As far as I am concerned whatever reason they are leaving their homes they "enjoy" the status that this reason confers.
posted on 23/6/16
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Reddevilsdouble - give peace a chance (U12215)
posted 4 minutes ago
Flee war in Syria - Refugee
Arrive in Serbia Refugee
Decide to head to UK for better standard of living - Economic migrant.
I'm
It isn't difficult guys.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I understand it RDD its just thatyiu definition has no legal bases.
The UN does though and they contradict what you claim.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What about the Dublin regulation?
posted on 23/6/16
Quote me the regulation.
posted on 23/6/16
No.
posted on 23/6/16
Haha brilliant so you don't actually have any evidence.
posted on 23/6/16
I tell you what lads, stay in ignorant bliss while the UN and others carry on recognising these victims as refugees.
Packing for a trip over the weekend now. I'll be careful not walk across any borders. They might mistake me for a migrant and not a tourist.
posted on 23/6/16
The Dublin Regulation aims to “determine rapidly the Member State responsible [for an asylum claim]”[1] and provides for the transfer of an asylum seeker to that Member State. Usually, the responsible Member State will be the state through which the asylum seeker first entered the EU.
Why would the EU have a regulation designed to return refugees to the first member state if they can choose to go where they like???
posted on 23/6/16
Stay sensitive Kung Fu
posted on 23/6/16
20 pages of arguing about the definition of a refugee. You boys
posted on 23/6/16
Worth every post 👍
posted on 23/6/16
And then rdd brings in asylum!
posted on 23/6/16
Refugees seek asylum red. 👍
posted on 23/6/16
Whether refugees seek asylum or not is immaterial, they are refugees from the moment they flee their country until they arrive at their chosen country.
Or if they then decide to move to somewhere better in their eyes when they become economic migrants.
SO
A refugee is a person who has to leave his country in fear of his life. He remains a refugee until he arrives at a country of his choice that welcomes him.
And economic migrant is someone who has settled (or been born) in a country and decides to move to another to improve his standard of living.
And I don't care what Collins dictionary or the UN says.
posted on 23/6/16
52 - wrong at every turn bud.
posted on 23/6/16
Right at every turn.
posted on 23/6/16
Nope.
posted on 23/6/16
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
SO
A refugee is a person who has to leave his country in fear of his life.
*** Correct. ***
He remains a refugee until he arrives at a country of his choice that welcomes him.
*** Wrong. He is a refugee until he reaches any country which can be classified as a safe haven where he can claim asylum. ***
An economic migrant is someone who has settled (or been born) in a country and decides to move to another to improve his standard of living.
*** Wrong again (partially). Any refugee who chooses not to claim asylum in the first safe haven becomes a migrant the moment he leaves that safe haven UNLESS he is granted refugee status in his destination country. If they do not qualify for refugee status when they start their journey then they are an economic migrant. ***
And I don't care what Collins dictionary or the UN says.
*** So you are the world authority on when a refugee becomes a migrant.
Nope, you are just another ill informed bigott. ***
Once you use the phrase 'I don't care what xxxx authority says' you have already lost the debate and any further discussion is impossible as you have already stated you will not listen and for that reason, I am out.
posted on 23/6/16
Looks as ifremain edge it, so fair play....democracy in action.
Hard luck leave,but we made our opinion known, and the Eu has to listen to us in future.
posted on 23/6/16
"and the Eu has to listen to us in future."
actually now they can p(ss all over us at will as they know we won't vote on it again
it's open season on Britain for France and Germany.
posted on 23/6/16
You know nothing until results come in..
Farage..what a weasel..concedes I min after polls close.. Not a bloke you would want in your trench.. A complete coward.. He might yet win
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