comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 14 minutes ago
Just read that Fujitsu are the latest company to up sticks and are leaving the UK.
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Wow, more scaremongering.

Fujitsu currently employ 14,000 in UK & Ireland. The UK subsidiary made £85.6m profit last year. The company are streamlining and cutting up to 1,400 jobs across all their UK & Ireland sites.

They say it's nothing to do with brexit but who knows.

Unite say they will do their utmost to save these jobs. What exactly are they going to do?

Fujitsu are automating in some areas and also offshoring some of the jobs. What can Unite (or any union) do in a case like this? Ballot their members on strike action? Yeah good idea in the current economic climate.

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comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 3 minutes ago
So as an example of Human Rights you are using the rights of people who have said they want to commit terrorist atrocities in the West and kill non-Muslims which Al Quaeda have said. While I would not condone torture in any circumstances using people who want to commit mass murder on a huge scale as an example of people whose human rights have been contravened is not a very persuasive argument.
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Have you ever considered how much of a role propaganda plays in your worldview? The word "terrorism" has always been rubbish. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter and all that.

They do awful, abominable things, yes. But you accept the awful, abominable things we do to the middle east too. It's two sides of a war. The success in modern propaganda is to make it seem unlike a war, but a one sided series of attacks based on hatred. It's not. It's modern warfare.

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comment by sᴉɥƃuǝlפ (U19365)
posted 3 minutes ago

Unite say they will do their utmost to save these jobs. What exactly are they going to do?

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Reminds me of my days being a union rep, which was when Tony Blair and then Gordon Brown were Prime Minister. The union represented people in several industries although I wont say which one.

To cut a long story short, they often discussed planning strike action in the NHS if the Conservatives won the next election purely because the Conservatives would be in power. At the same time they were putting off strikes as Labour were in power as Labour were closer to their political ideals.

When I said that if they took people in the area they represented of the NHS out on strike it would put peoples lives at risk, the answer I got was that they believed that some people dying was worth it to achieve their political objectives. They also made it very clear that most unions worked this way. Some of the people saying this were high up union officials.

After that I left and have a strong dislike of the lefts use of political and strike action for their own political ends. They make out its about people but they are prepared to walk all over other peolpe to achieve their ends.

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Guantanamo Bay was the US, not Britain so like the other example is irrelevant.

To get back to the point, it was that Britain as a country could have just as good or stronger HR laws as well as worse. Scaremongering about it doesnt prove anything. If we as a nation became weak on HR with any political party in power I am fairly sure that we would vote that party out of government

There have been laws and conventions created to protect rights of soldiers during wars.

The problem is times have changed considerably and there are no longer conventional wars anymore with conventional enemies.

But apparently these enemies who are not brave enough to wear a uniform, may not even be connected to and ruled by the nation they fight in, and fight with no rules, deserve protection by those same very rules.

A common sense view would be that they don't deserve any rights at all and those soldiers killing or abusing them deserve medals not law suits.

comment by Hod idol the x factor - Mo's posh tin set! (U5117)
posted 12 minutes ago
There have been laws and conventions created to protect rights of soldiers during wars.

The problem is times have changed considerably and there are no longer conventional wars anymore with conventional enemies.

But apparently these enemies who are not brave enough to wear a uniform, may not even be connected to and ruled by the nation they fight in, and fight with no rules, deserve protection by those same very rules.

A common sense view would be that they don't deserve any rights at all and those soldiers killing or abusing them deserve medals not law suits.
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Man this viewpoint is so messed up.

comment by Hod idol the x factor - Mo's posh tin set! (U5117)
posted 19 minutes ago
There have been laws and conventions created to protect rights of soldiers during wars.

The problem is times have changed considerably and there are no longer conventional wars anymore with conventional enemies.

But apparently these enemies who are not brave enough to wear a uniform, may not even be connected to and ruled by the nation they fight in, and fight with no rules, deserve protection by those same very rules.

A common sense view would be that they don't deserve any rights at all and those soldiers killing or abusing them deserve medals not law suits.
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Human rights absolutely apply to every human being.

From the Universal Declaration of Human Rights:

Article 1.
All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights...

Article 2.
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sexx, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status...

http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/

This is and must be inarguable; and is the entire point of fighting for any common standard for the correct treatment of human beings.

We must all be treated absolutely fairly and equally. As soon as exceptions are made, and it becomes 'OK' or even 'necessary' to treat some people inhumanely - no matter what they think, believe, have chosen to do - any moral argument has gone, and the whole construct is subject to challenge and complete deconstruction.

Hod, Thats not common sense. Thats some idiotic notion of what has happened.

If you look at what the legislation was about, it was stopping the use of legal aid (funded from British tax payers) for people in other countries to sue our troops for alleged incidents. Some law firms were digging around to try to find cases they could bring in order to make money which has lead to a huge rise in cases.

Gotta say, you insecure Brits have kicked up one mother-fu·cking mighty fuss over the shape of your bananas.

Freud would have a field day.

comment by Mourinho delenda est (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
Gotta say, you insecure Brits have kicked up one mother-fu·cking mighty fuss over the shape of your bananas.

Freud would have a field day.
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Of all the comments you single out bananas. As Freud would probably say - You are fixated with bananas. Did your father give you "bananas"?

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comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Mourinho delenda est (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
Gotta say, you insecure Brits have kicked up one mother-fu·cking mighty fuss over the shape of your bananas.

Freud would have a field day.
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Of all the comments you single out bananas. As Freud would probably say - You are fixated with bananas. Did your father give you "bananas"?
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Of all which comments - had someone actually mentioned bananas in such a serious discussion?

And since when does one mention of something equate to an obsessive interest in or feeling about someone or something (definition of fixation)?

No, I don't think banana-wielding dads are a fixation of yours.

I dread to think how you lefties will react when Trump wins the US election, and I think he will.

Probably the same way you would. Pointing up at the sky in horror as the bombs fall.

It says something when Frecnch facists have more belief in Britain than the most vocal posters on here.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/718915/Marine-Le-Pen-Brexit-BBC-interview-France?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=DX%2FMarineLePenSlamsBBCJournalist&utm_term=DX%2FMarineLePenSlamsBBCJournalist&utm_content=DX%2FMarineLePenSlamsBBCJournalist

I did find one of the weirdest criticisms of those who wanted to remain, and were rightly (in my view) guarded against the risk of Brexit, that they were "doing Britain down".

I am (or at least have been until recent event) proud to be British. This is in no way mutually exclusive from being realistic about the fact that our place in the world has probably diminished a bit over the last century or so, and that it might be worth considering the downsides of removing ourselves from the EU

Frankly, there's been a rather unsettling undercurrent of nationalism to that sort of debate.

Pound dropping was the top headline.

The pound "rebounding" is way down the list of news stories and not even on the BBC home page, but is down the page on the News page.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37628354

Did you read the article?

“"If traders think the mood is turning bullish for the pound, they're mistaken. The bears are still very much in control and this relief rally looks like a dead cat bounce. It could just be a short pause before sterling takes another leg lower towards $1.20."

Without political certainty (which there will not be for some time) the pound will continue to struggle.

As I have booked a holiday to the US next summer I would like the pound to recover so I’m not spending £20 on a Big Mac!

Just stop eating Big Mac?!

comment by IAWT... or do we? (U10012)
posted 1 minute ago
Just stop eating Big Mac?!
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