All criticism of Karius is fair, if you are as poor as he is then why should you avoid it.
He is the worst goalkeeper to grace the Premier League in years and is costing Liverpool a title challenge.
Klopp could work with his goalkeepers until the end of time, those 2 are never going to be of the required quality.
A new keeper is required at the earliest opportunity.
comment by Nicky Law's bald coot (U6025)
posted 26 seconds ago
Klopp could work with his goalkeepers until the end of time, those 2 are never going to be of the required quality.
A new keeper is required at the earliest opportunity.
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He needs more time
comment by Nicky Law's bald coot (U6025)
posted 39 seconds ago
All criticism of Karius is fair, if you are as poor as he is then why should you avoid it.
He is the worst goalkeeper to grace the Premier League in years and is costing Liverpool a title challenge.
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He is costing them a title challenge, and deserves criticism, but the problem with a lot of pundits and fans is that criticism tends to get exaggerated,
For example, there's no way that Karius is worse than Adam Bogdan
Therefore, calling him the worst keeper the grace the league just smacks of someone who wants to make his point heard by over exaggerating
He is the worst goalkeeper to grace the Premier League in years and is costing Liverpool a title challenge.
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De Gea was never that bad even during his first season at Utd.
he was maybe a little weak coming for crosses but tahts it
I wouldn't say worse, but he has been pretty bad. Is he an improvement on Mig? He is also not a top keeper. But seems better than Karius as of this moment.
Yeah De Gea was far superior.
Having watched him for every single minute that he has played I can tell you now that people are going over the top.
So one popped out last minute and Payet beat him with a free kick. I'd still have him over Mignolet any day of the week.
Probably been mentioned already, but hasn't Carragher been equally as critical, yet bout Karius and Klopp have been afraid to bring him into it?
No I think it was more to do with P Neville telling Karius to shut his mouth.
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 0 seconds ago
No I think it was more to do with P Neville telling Karius to shut his mouth.
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wasn't that Carragher?
If Karius doesn't improve Liverpool should go balls out for Joe Hart this summer
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comment by just plain old Dunc (U11713)
posted 2 seconds ago
De Gea was never that bad even during his first season at Utd.
he was maybe a little weak coming for crosses but tahts it
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That's true
I do remember Neville tearing Dave a new one though after a game at spurs possibly in his first season
Adam Bogdan was never a number 1 as far as I recall.
Karius is and is the worst I can remember. Every single time the balls near him you fear the worst.
I get the point to an extent, in that a lot of ex-player pundits do seem to inflate opinions to get their points across, but thats partly the nature of the role and what they need to do to make sure they continue getting a job doing it. I don't really listen to pundits nowadays, on TV at least, but they do have narratives that they like to keep during a game regardless of how it actually plays.
It's a bit counter-productive by Klopp though as all it does is increase the external focus on the player, not lessen it. He might have some benefit internally by increased loyalty from the player, but I'm not sure its worth it, that could have been achieved in other ways.
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
No.
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Yes.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/liverpool-news-jamie-carragher-loris-karius-west-ham-goal-dimitri-payet-a7468741.html
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
No.
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http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/carragher-tells-karius-shut-up-12305588
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Having watched him for every single minute that he has played I can tell you now that people are going over the top.
So one popped out last minute and Payet beat him with a free kick. I'd still have him over Mignolet any day of the week.
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Yeah, but the media are telling everyone else what to believe, so the sheep will believe it.
They read the red tops to find out what their opinion should be
And Reds hero Carragher has slammed Karius, claiming he needs to shut up and focus on his game.
"The 'keeper got criticism last week and has come out and had a pop at Gary Neville and mentioned me and my advice would be: 'Shut up and just do your job,'" he told Sky Sports.
"And doing your job and answering your critics would be saving that [Payet's free kick]. That is not difficult, I think the positioning is fine, he gets across and reads it well and he is there.
"And his wrists, again like the first goal at Bournemouth, are not strong enough. It is not even in the corner and Payet has not even hit it that hard.
"I have bigger problems with goals like that than mistakes, because mistakes happen, a 'keeper will drop one or do something stupid, every 'keeper does that.
"That to me, you look at goals like that and think: 'It should not go in, is the 'keeper good enough?'"
Carragher told him to shut up, wonder why Klopp didn't include him in his whinge.
You've gone quiet Robbing?
Oh well Neville said it as well!
I don't watch Skysports punditry tbh.
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posted on 12/12/16
All criticism of Karius is fair, if you are as poor as he is then why should you avoid it.
He is the worst goalkeeper to grace the Premier League in years and is costing Liverpool a title challenge.
posted on 12/12/16
Klopp could work with his goalkeepers until the end of time, those 2 are never going to be of the required quality.
A new keeper is required at the earliest opportunity.
posted on 12/12/16
comment by Nicky Law's bald coot (U6025)
posted 26 seconds ago
Klopp could work with his goalkeepers until the end of time, those 2 are never going to be of the required quality.
A new keeper is required at the earliest opportunity.
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He needs more time
posted on 12/12/16
comment by Nicky Law's bald coot (U6025)
posted 39 seconds ago
All criticism of Karius is fair, if you are as poor as he is then why should you avoid it.
He is the worst goalkeeper to grace the Premier League in years and is costing Liverpool a title challenge.
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He is costing them a title challenge, and deserves criticism, but the problem with a lot of pundits and fans is that criticism tends to get exaggerated,
For example, there's no way that Karius is worse than Adam Bogdan
Therefore, calling him the worst keeper the grace the league just smacks of someone who wants to make his point heard by over exaggerating
posted on 12/12/16
He is the worst goalkeeper to grace the Premier League in years and is costing Liverpool a title challenge.
==========================
posted on 12/12/16
De Gea was never that bad even during his first season at Utd.
he was maybe a little weak coming for crosses but tahts it
posted on 12/12/16
I wouldn't say worse, but he has been pretty bad. Is he an improvement on Mig? He is also not a top keeper. But seems better than Karius as of this moment.
posted on 12/12/16
Yeah De Gea was far superior.
posted on 12/12/16
Having watched him for every single minute that he has played I can tell you now that people are going over the top.
So one popped out last minute and Payet beat him with a free kick. I'd still have him over Mignolet any day of the week.
posted on 12/12/16
Probably been mentioned already, but hasn't Carragher been equally as critical, yet bout Karius and Klopp have been afraid to bring him into it?
posted on 12/12/16
No I think it was more to do with P Neville telling Karius to shut his mouth.
posted on 12/12/16
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 0 seconds ago
No I think it was more to do with P Neville telling Karius to shut his mouth.
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wasn't that Carragher?
posted on 12/12/16
No.
posted on 12/12/16
If Karius doesn't improve Liverpool should go balls out for Joe Hart this summer
posted on 12/12/16
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posted on 12/12/16
comment by just plain old Dunc (U11713)
posted 2 seconds ago
De Gea was never that bad even during his first season at Utd.
he was maybe a little weak coming for crosses but tahts it
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That's true
I do remember Neville tearing Dave a new one though after a game at spurs possibly in his first season
posted on 12/12/16
Adam Bogdan was never a number 1 as far as I recall.
Karius is and is the worst I can remember. Every single time the balls near him you fear the worst.
posted on 12/12/16
I get the point to an extent, in that a lot of ex-player pundits do seem to inflate opinions to get their points across, but thats partly the nature of the role and what they need to do to make sure they continue getting a job doing it. I don't really listen to pundits nowadays, on TV at least, but they do have narratives that they like to keep during a game regardless of how it actually plays.
It's a bit counter-productive by Klopp though as all it does is increase the external focus on the player, not lessen it. He might have some benefit internally by increased loyalty from the player, but I'm not sure its worth it, that could have been achieved in other ways.
posted on 12/12/16
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
No.
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Yes.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/liverpool-news-jamie-carragher-loris-karius-west-ham-goal-dimitri-payet-a7468741.html
posted on 12/12/16
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
No.
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http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/carragher-tells-karius-shut-up-12305588
posted on 12/12/16
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Having watched him for every single minute that he has played I can tell you now that people are going over the top.
So one popped out last minute and Payet beat him with a free kick. I'd still have him over Mignolet any day of the week.
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Yeah, but the media are telling everyone else what to believe, so the sheep will believe it.
They read the red tops to find out what their opinion should be
posted on 12/12/16
Joe Hart must be signed.
posted on 12/12/16
And Reds hero Carragher has slammed Karius, claiming he needs to shut up and focus on his game.
"The 'keeper got criticism last week and has come out and had a pop at Gary Neville and mentioned me and my advice would be: 'Shut up and just do your job,'" he told Sky Sports.
"And doing your job and answering your critics would be saving that [Payet's free kick]. That is not difficult, I think the positioning is fine, he gets across and reads it well and he is there.
"And his wrists, again like the first goal at Bournemouth, are not strong enough. It is not even in the corner and Payet has not even hit it that hard.
"I have bigger problems with goals like that than mistakes, because mistakes happen, a 'keeper will drop one or do something stupid, every 'keeper does that.
"That to me, you look at goals like that and think: 'It should not go in, is the 'keeper good enough?'"
Carragher told him to shut up, wonder why Klopp didn't include him in his whinge.
posted on 12/12/16
You've gone quiet Robbing?
posted on 12/12/16
Oh well Neville said it as well!
I don't watch Skysports punditry tbh.
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