comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 18 minutes ago
Agree with all that, we had the first fall in zero hours contracts and biggest rise in wages for 10 years since brexit and the drop net migration. the left won't talk about that because it's an uncomfortable truth.
Agree on workers rights over there but it's a different culture and thinking, we can't really criticise trump for that if he's taken over after 8 years of Democrats. If they didn't sort that out then he's not going to.
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It's worth balancing that out with the likelihood that while it's great pay is going up, it's almost certain there will be massive job losses associated with the Brexit process as it goes on.
Happy to be proved wrong but I'm very pessimistic
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 53 minutes ago
Agree with all that, we had the first fall in zero hours contracts and biggest rise in wages for 10 years since brexit and the drop net migration. the left won't talk about that because it's an uncomfortable truth.
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Happy to talk about it.
Business bodies and leaders are screaming that they have unfilled posts, skills shortages, and poor choices of candidates for new roles.
And we wonder why we're lagging so far behind in terms of productivity.
We're already in the midst of a continental brain drain, which'll no doubt worsen if we don't act to make assurances to EU citizens that they can remain indefinitely enjoying the same rights as they do now and continue to encourage more to immigrate in the coming years.
comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 12 hours, 25 minutes ago
Sorry for my outburst, Passion Power.
I know I ought to try to use reason instead of insult or ad hominem-style comments, I just get exasperated at the apparent futility of attempts at rational discourse.
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As we say in Belfast........get it outta yeeeee!
Nowt wrong with passion and caring, Dave.π
Once at an after club house party in student landand I had too much E in my system and could not stop dancing! First time i heard the words from a bloke who knew.... "get it outta ye".
π
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posted 3 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 18 minutes ago
Agree with all that, we had the first fall in zero hours contracts and biggest rise in wages for 10 years since brexit and the drop net migration. the left won't talk about that because it's an uncomfortable truth.
Agree on workers rights over there but it's a different culture and thinking, we can't really criticise trump for that if he's taken over after 8 years of Democrats. If they didn't sort that out then he's not going to.
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It's worth balancing that out with the likelihood that while it's great pay is going up, it's almost certain there will be massive job losses associated with the Brexit process as it goes on.
Happy to be proved wrong but I'm very pessimistic
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No I agree with you but we shouldn't have had to leave the EU to control our immigration policy. if managed migration has those benefits for people then it's something the left should be supporting, really baffles me how Labour talk about zero hours, low wages, unstable employment etc. but refuse to tackle that elephant in the room.
Ultimately brexit was a choice between leave and a status quo that ignores the issues that people care about, so as much as I don't think brexit solves all our problems or care if it happens or not I'm still glad it happened, its changed politics and brought issues into the mainstream that were rarely discussed before.
comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 7 hours, 36 minutes ago
Lemming number 3 this week....
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there’s a lot of them in the world dave. Brexit and trump proves sone people shouldn’t be allowed to vote. Obviously some voted for intelligent reasons (well for brexit anyway, only the really gullible or moronic would believe trump).
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 7 hours, 36 minutes ago
Lemming number 3 this week....
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there’s a lot of them in the world dave. Brexit and trump proves sone people shouldn’t be allowed to vote. Obviously some voted for intelligent reasons (well for brexit anyway, only the really gullible or moronic would believe trump).
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I reckon race and identity politics played a part in the Vote.
I detest Trump, but dislike hilary....so who would you vote for??
In the near future white Americans are a minority.
Hardcore feminism and islamist extremism helped the anti - hilary narrative, and she is a coldfish freak!
It is easy to mock the Trumpet and CNN base their news on one bloke, so perhaps that answers the query on why dep!orables stick rwo fingers up to hilary and the politics of identity.
comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted about 3 hours ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 53 minutes ago
Agree with all that, we had the first fall in zero hours contracts and biggest rise in wages for 10 years since brexit and the drop net migration. the left won't talk about that because it's an uncomfortable truth.
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Happy to talk about it.
Business bodies and leaders are screaming that they have unfilled posts, skills shortages, and poor choices of candidates for new roles.
And we wonder why we're lagging so far behind in terms of productivity.
We're already in the midst of a continental brain drain, which'll no doubt worsen if we don't act to make assurances to EU citizens that they can remain indefinitely enjoying the same rights as they do now and continue to encourage more to immigrate in the coming years.
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We're still in the EU and FOM still applies so no restriction on workers coming here, I guess the reason is EU citizens taking brexit as a kind of personal insult or uncertainty about the future if they move here now. Once we have certainty if people can earn more money coming here to work they will do it. we need to stop conflating high skilled high paid workers with lower paid as they have different effect on the economy . There's no reason for any skills shortage post brexit, unless the government decides to let industries crumble on purpose because they don't want to let in skilled workers which were short of.
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posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 3 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 18 minutes ago
Agree with all that, we had the first fall in zero hours contracts and biggest rise in wages for 10 years since brexit and the drop net migration. the left won't talk about that because it's an uncomfortable truth.
Agree on workers rights over there but it's a different culture and thinking, we can't really criticise trump for that if he's taken over after 8 years of Democrats. If they didn't sort that out then he's not going to.
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It's worth balancing that out with the likelihood that while it's great pay is going up, it's almost certain there will be massive job losses associated with the Brexit process as it goes on.
Happy to be proved wrong but I'm very pessimistic
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No I agree with you but we shouldn't have had to leave the EU to control our immigration policy. if managed migration has those benefits for people then it's something the left should be supporting, really baffles me how Labour talk about zero hours, low wages, unstable employment etc. but refuse to tackle that elephant in the room.
Ultimately brexit was a choice between leave and a status quo that ignores the issues that people care about, so as much as I don't think brexit solves all our problems or care if it happens or not I'm still glad it happened, its changed politics and brought issues into the mainstream that were rarely discussed before.
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Agreed!
it rattles cagesπ
It is easy to mock the Trumpet
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It’s not. He’s doing so much to make himself look stupid, that no jokes need written.
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posted 28 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 15 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 8 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power - ¯\_(γ)_/¯ (U8398)
posted 4 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted about 12 hours ago
This is a fascinating insight in regard to self interest and Trump's presidency:
https://twitter.com/JKCorden/status/1093634176845139968?s=09
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I don't get her point, Democratic party is corrupt like anything most of those allegations could be for Hillary
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RAAAAGGGGHHHH!
I HATE people like you!
SHE REPEATEDLY TALKS ABOUT THE SYSTEM, NOT THE GOP.
SHE HAS ALREADY UPSET MEMBERS OF THE DEMS BECAUSE OF HER STANCE ON CORRUPTION IN BOTH PARTIES.
Do you work for Fox News?
FECKING UTTERLY MORONIC WHATABOUTISM! "What about Hillary"
AND YOU START OFF SAYING YOU DON'T GET HER POINT!
I really try hard NOT to ever attack others' intelligence on this site, in life in general, due to the limits and balance between genotype and environment that makes our phenotype; however with you I'm going to make an exception.
If you're not a dumb moron like your post would suggest, you should be truly ashamed at what a brainless lemming you sound in your comment.
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Her point was how the president is a 'bad guy' enriching himself at the expense of the american people which isn't true anyway, and ironic because Trump self funded a lot of his campaign and had much less funding from special interests than his opponents or past nominees from either side.
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1. HER POINT IS NOT SIMPLY HOW THE PRESIDENT IS A "BAD GUY".
You've made the same mistake that Passion Power did.You don't understand what she's talking about.
AOC is EXPLICITLY highlighting the systemic flaws in US politics, capacity for gross corruption all the way up to the President, including the Congress - of which she is a member of. She won her democratic primary against an established member of the party that raised more than ten times what she did. She didn't have any PACs not lobbyists - no one knew who she was!
AOC has talked about this before, and I'll say AGAIN because you don't read apparently, she's criticised BOTH PARTIES! This latest 5 min scene does NOT solely attack Trump.
Please re-watch the clip and you will see that some of the examples she raises HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUMP! You and others on this thread are so quick to make anything into a fake news wail that you cannot even seem to understand the point. You're wrong and it's bizarre how far you shift goal posts to rationalise it.
2. "...ironic because Trump self funded a lot of his campaign..."
WRONG AGAIN!
What is actually ironic is you parroting yet another one of Trump's lies to prove a point that you were fundamentally wrong about to begin with!
This is why I called you another lemming. You believe that Trump self funded a lot of his campaign. He didn't.
He claimed to be self funded with no lobbyists and no PAC money.
“I don’t need anybody’s money. It’s nice. I don’t need anybody’s money. I’m using my own money. I’m not using the lobbyists. I’m not using donors. I don’t care. I’m really rich.”
Trump spent nearly $350,000,000 on his 2016 campaign. More than EIGHTY PERCENT came from donations, 25 % of his entire budget came from Super PACs!
Less than 20 % was self funded of which some of this is being tracked to loans through a German bank.
Freedom, you and others say believe Trump's actions NOT his words. Take your own advice and see he says he is self funded but he takes most of his money in the HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS from all the people and groups he said he wouldn't.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wasn't speaking specifically about Donald Trump, but she could do and she'd be right.
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Brilliant post
Please actually read this and actually reply properly to these points or don't reply at all
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Dave
Even with the facts out there, Americans choose not to look them up, and choose to believe that orange muppet instead.
Why?
She was talking about the system but the references to the 'bad guy' is clearly Trump, she's right about campaign finance but also playing to the idea that Trump is a corrupt president. Not sure where you got the numbers from but according to these Trump self funded $66m, 13% was funded by special interest donors (82m to Clinton's 217m) and raised 564m from individual donors a little more than half of what Clinton raised.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-presidential-campaign-fundraising/
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/12/08/donald-trumps-campaign-investment-hit-66-million/95178392/
He self funded the majority until he won the nomination and then relied on donations after, she's right to highlight the amount of money needed to run for president which is crazy, and it's good that she did but Trump is the least corruptible president from special interests.
You presented some incorrect facts to support a false narrative and people believe them, that's the definition of fake news!
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 12 minutes ago
She was talking about the system but the references to the 'bad guy' is clearly Trump, she's right about campaign finance but also playing to the idea that Trump is a corrupt president. Not sure where you got the numbers from but according to these Trump self funded $66m, 13% was funded by special interest donors (82m to Clinton's 217m) and raised 564m from individual donors a little more than half of what Clinton raised.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-presidential-campaign-fundraising/
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/12/08/donald-trumps-campaign-investment-hit-66-million/95178392/
He self funded the majority until he won the nomination and then relied on donations after, she's right to highlight the amount of money needed to run for president which is crazy, and it's good that she did but Trump is the least corruptible president from special interests.
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If he's the least corruptible President, why is he in the process of launching an illegal coup in Venezuela for their oil?
He's a slightly thicker version of every other US President.
How is he the least corruptable? That makes no sense
Just ‘slightly’, Kung fu?
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posted 49 seconds ago
comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 15 minutes ago
Just ‘slightly’, Kung fu?
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Just ask the dozen or so of the bestest and most bigly people that he's hired that all call him a fecking moron, or some variant of that.
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He will make up for it during ‘executive time’
comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 19 minutes ago
Just ‘slightly’, Kung fu?
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Lol ok maybe only compared to a George W Bush, but very much as corruptable as most of the others imo.
comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 19 minutes ago
Just ‘slightly’, Kung fu?
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Lol ok maybe only compared to a George W Bush, but very much as corruptable as most of the others imo.
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More corruptable if anything.
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comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 18 minutes ago
Agree with all that, we had the first fall in zero hours contracts and biggest rise in wages for 10 years since brexit and the drop net migration. the left won't talk about that because it's an uncomfortable truth.
Agree on workers rights over there but it's a different culture and thinking, we can't really criticise trump for that if he's taken over after 8 years of Democrats. If they didn't sort that out then he's not going to.
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It's worth balancing that out with the likelihood that while it's great pay is going up, it's almost certain there will be massive job losses associated with the Brexit process as it goes on.
Happy to be proved wrong but I'm very pessimistic
posted on 9/2/19
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 53 minutes ago
Agree with all that, we had the first fall in zero hours contracts and biggest rise in wages for 10 years since brexit and the drop net migration. the left won't talk about that because it's an uncomfortable truth.
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Happy to talk about it.
Business bodies and leaders are screaming that they have unfilled posts, skills shortages, and poor choices of candidates for new roles.
And we wonder why we're lagging so far behind in terms of productivity.
We're already in the midst of a continental brain drain, which'll no doubt worsen if we don't act to make assurances to EU citizens that they can remain indefinitely enjoying the same rights as they do now and continue to encourage more to immigrate in the coming years.
posted on 9/2/19
comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 12 hours, 25 minutes ago
Sorry for my outburst, Passion Power.
I know I ought to try to use reason instead of insult or ad hominem-style comments, I just get exasperated at the apparent futility of attempts at rational discourse.
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As we say in Belfast........get it outta yeeeee!
Nowt wrong with passion and caring, Dave.π
Once at an after club house party in student landand I had too much E in my system and could not stop dancing! First time i heard the words from a bloke who knew.... "get it outta ye".
π
posted on 9/2/19
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 3 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 18 minutes ago
Agree with all that, we had the first fall in zero hours contracts and biggest rise in wages for 10 years since brexit and the drop net migration. the left won't talk about that because it's an uncomfortable truth.
Agree on workers rights over there but it's a different culture and thinking, we can't really criticise trump for that if he's taken over after 8 years of Democrats. If they didn't sort that out then he's not going to.
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It's worth balancing that out with the likelihood that while it's great pay is going up, it's almost certain there will be massive job losses associated with the Brexit process as it goes on.
Happy to be proved wrong but I'm very pessimistic
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No I agree with you but we shouldn't have had to leave the EU to control our immigration policy. if managed migration has those benefits for people then it's something the left should be supporting, really baffles me how Labour talk about zero hours, low wages, unstable employment etc. but refuse to tackle that elephant in the room.
Ultimately brexit was a choice between leave and a status quo that ignores the issues that people care about, so as much as I don't think brexit solves all our problems or care if it happens or not I'm still glad it happened, its changed politics and brought issues into the mainstream that were rarely discussed before.
posted on 9/2/19
comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 7 hours, 36 minutes ago
Lemming number 3 this week....
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there’s a lot of them in the world dave. Brexit and trump proves sone people shouldn’t be allowed to vote. Obviously some voted for intelligent reasons (well for brexit anyway, only the really gullible or moronic would believe trump).
posted on 9/2/19
comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 7 hours, 36 minutes ago
Lemming number 3 this week....
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there’s a lot of them in the world dave. Brexit and trump proves sone people shouldn’t be allowed to vote. Obviously some voted for intelligent reasons (well for brexit anyway, only the really gullible or moronic would believe trump).
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I reckon race and identity politics played a part in the Vote.
I detest Trump, but dislike hilary....so who would you vote for??
In the near future white Americans are a minority.
Hardcore feminism and islamist extremism helped the anti - hilary narrative, and she is a coldfish freak!
It is easy to mock the Trumpet and CNN base their news on one bloke, so perhaps that answers the query on why dep!orables stick rwo fingers up to hilary and the politics of identity.
posted on 9/2/19
comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted about 3 hours ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 53 minutes ago
Agree with all that, we had the first fall in zero hours contracts and biggest rise in wages for 10 years since brexit and the drop net migration. the left won't talk about that because it's an uncomfortable truth.
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Happy to talk about it.
Business bodies and leaders are screaming that they have unfilled posts, skills shortages, and poor choices of candidates for new roles.
And we wonder why we're lagging so far behind in terms of productivity.
We're already in the midst of a continental brain drain, which'll no doubt worsen if we don't act to make assurances to EU citizens that they can remain indefinitely enjoying the same rights as they do now and continue to encourage more to immigrate in the coming years.
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We're still in the EU and FOM still applies so no restriction on workers coming here, I guess the reason is EU citizens taking brexit as a kind of personal insult or uncertainty about the future if they move here now. Once we have certainty if people can earn more money coming here to work they will do it. we need to stop conflating high skilled high paid workers with lower paid as they have different effect on the economy . There's no reason for any skills shortage post brexit, unless the government decides to let industries crumble on purpose because they don't want to let in skilled workers which were short of.
posted on 9/2/19
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 3 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 18 minutes ago
Agree with all that, we had the first fall in zero hours contracts and biggest rise in wages for 10 years since brexit and the drop net migration. the left won't talk about that because it's an uncomfortable truth.
Agree on workers rights over there but it's a different culture and thinking, we can't really criticise trump for that if he's taken over after 8 years of Democrats. If they didn't sort that out then he's not going to.
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It's worth balancing that out with the likelihood that while it's great pay is going up, it's almost certain there will be massive job losses associated with the Brexit process as it goes on.
Happy to be proved wrong but I'm very pessimistic
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No I agree with you but we shouldn't have had to leave the EU to control our immigration policy. if managed migration has those benefits for people then it's something the left should be supporting, really baffles me how Labour talk about zero hours, low wages, unstable employment etc. but refuse to tackle that elephant in the room.
Ultimately brexit was a choice between leave and a status quo that ignores the issues that people care about, so as much as I don't think brexit solves all our problems or care if it happens or not I'm still glad it happened, its changed politics and brought issues into the mainstream that were rarely discussed before.
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Agreed!
it rattles cagesπ
posted on 9/2/19
It is easy to mock the Trumpet
—
It’s not. He’s doing so much to make himself look stupid, that no jokes need written.
posted on 10/2/19
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posted 15 hours, 14 minutes ago
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posted 8 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power - ¯\_(γ)_/¯ (U8398)
posted 4 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted about 12 hours ago
This is a fascinating insight in regard to self interest and Trump's presidency:
https://twitter.com/JKCorden/status/1093634176845139968?s=09
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I don't get her point, Democratic party is corrupt like anything most of those allegations could be for Hillary
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RAAAAGGGGHHHH!
I HATE people like you!
SHE REPEATEDLY TALKS ABOUT THE SYSTEM, NOT THE GOP.
SHE HAS ALREADY UPSET MEMBERS OF THE DEMS BECAUSE OF HER STANCE ON CORRUPTION IN BOTH PARTIES.
Do you work for Fox News?
FECKING UTTERLY MORONIC WHATABOUTISM! "What about Hillary"
AND YOU START OFF SAYING YOU DON'T GET HER POINT!
I really try hard NOT to ever attack others' intelligence on this site, in life in general, due to the limits and balance between genotype and environment that makes our phenotype; however with you I'm going to make an exception.
If you're not a dumb moron like your post would suggest, you should be truly ashamed at what a brainless lemming you sound in your comment.
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Her point was how the president is a 'bad guy' enriching himself at the expense of the american people which isn't true anyway, and ironic because Trump self funded a lot of his campaign and had much less funding from special interests than his opponents or past nominees from either side.
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1. HER POINT IS NOT SIMPLY HOW THE PRESIDENT IS A "BAD GUY".
You've made the same mistake that Passion Power did.You don't understand what she's talking about.
AOC is EXPLICITLY highlighting the systemic flaws in US politics, capacity for gross corruption all the way up to the President, including the Congress - of which she is a member of. She won her democratic primary against an established member of the party that raised more than ten times what she did. She didn't have any PACs not lobbyists - no one knew who she was!
AOC has talked about this before, and I'll say AGAIN because you don't read apparently, she's criticised BOTH PARTIES! This latest 5 min scene does NOT solely attack Trump.
Please re-watch the clip and you will see that some of the examples she raises HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUMP! You and others on this thread are so quick to make anything into a fake news wail that you cannot even seem to understand the point. You're wrong and it's bizarre how far you shift goal posts to rationalise it.
2. "...ironic because Trump self funded a lot of his campaign..."
WRONG AGAIN!
What is actually ironic is you parroting yet another one of Trump's lies to prove a point that you were fundamentally wrong about to begin with!
This is why I called you another lemming. You believe that Trump self funded a lot of his campaign. He didn't.
He claimed to be self funded with no lobbyists and no PAC money.
“I don’t need anybody’s money. It’s nice. I don’t need anybody’s money. I’m using my own money. I’m not using the lobbyists. I’m not using donors. I don’t care. I’m really rich.”
Trump spent nearly $350,000,000 on his 2016 campaign. More than EIGHTY PERCENT came from donations, 25 % of his entire budget came from Super PACs!
Less than 20 % was self funded of which some of this is being tracked to loans through a German bank.
Freedom, you and others say believe Trump's actions NOT his words. Take your own advice and see he says he is self funded but he takes most of his money in the HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS from all the people and groups he said he wouldn't.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wasn't speaking specifically about Donald Trump, but she could do and she'd be right.
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Brilliant post
Please actually read this and actually reply properly to these points or don't reply at all
posted on 10/2/19
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posted on 10/2/19
Dave
Even with the facts out there, Americans choose not to look them up, and choose to believe that orange muppet instead.
Why?
posted on 10/2/19
She was talking about the system but the references to the 'bad guy' is clearly Trump, she's right about campaign finance but also playing to the idea that Trump is a corrupt president. Not sure where you got the numbers from but according to these Trump self funded $66m, 13% was funded by special interest donors (82m to Clinton's 217m) and raised 564m from individual donors a little more than half of what Clinton raised.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-presidential-campaign-fundraising/
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/12/08/donald-trumps-campaign-investment-hit-66-million/95178392/
He self funded the majority until he won the nomination and then relied on donations after, she's right to highlight the amount of money needed to run for president which is crazy, and it's good that she did but Trump is the least corruptible president from special interests.
posted on 10/2/19
You presented some incorrect facts to support a false narrative and people believe them, that's the definition of fake news!
posted on 10/2/19
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 12 minutes ago
She was talking about the system but the references to the 'bad guy' is clearly Trump, she's right about campaign finance but also playing to the idea that Trump is a corrupt president. Not sure where you got the numbers from but according to these Trump self funded $66m, 13% was funded by special interest donors (82m to Clinton's 217m) and raised 564m from individual donors a little more than half of what Clinton raised.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-presidential-campaign-fundraising/
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/12/08/donald-trumps-campaign-investment-hit-66-million/95178392/
He self funded the majority until he won the nomination and then relied on donations after, she's right to highlight the amount of money needed to run for president which is crazy, and it's good that she did but Trump is the least corruptible president from special interests.
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If he's the least corruptible President, why is he in the process of launching an illegal coup in Venezuela for their oil?
He's a slightly thicker version of every other US President.
posted on 10/2/19
How is he the least corruptable? That makes no sense
posted on 10/2/19
Just ‘slightly’, Kung fu?
posted on 10/2/19
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posted 49 seconds ago
comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 15 minutes ago
Just ‘slightly’, Kung fu?
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Just ask the dozen or so of the bestest and most bigly people that he's hired that all call him a fecking moron, or some variant of that.
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He will make up for it during ‘executive time’
posted on 10/2/19
comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 19 minutes ago
Just ‘slightly’, Kung fu?
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Lol ok maybe only compared to a George W Bush, but very much as corruptable as most of the others imo.
posted on 10/2/19
comment by Kung Fu Cantona ππΌ π΅πΈ (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 19 minutes ago
Just ‘slightly’, Kung fu?
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Lol ok maybe only compared to a George W Bush, but very much as corruptable as most of the others imo.
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More corruptable if anything.
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