Western interventionism is mostly an excuse used to appeal to idiots. Stretty, as well all know, is one of them

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comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 28 seconds ago
Western interventionism is mostly an excuse used to appeal to idiots. Stretty, as well all know, is one of them
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Ahh right, so four million dead in the Middle East by the wests doing has absolutley nothing to do with it right? Ok gotcha.

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Alright you feckin mugs, you are arguing about something whilst you don't even know what the hell happened, ridiculous.

comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 12 seconds ago
terrorist attacks wouldn't drive support for right wing parties if the left wing ones actually grew some balls and get their heads out the sand.
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Maybe we could just stop blowing other countries back to the Stone Age. Might work.
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seriously st fu, so manys try to justify this stuff.
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It happens all the time, if it turns out to be terrorists, they'll start blaming Blair and Bush. Kung Fu is forever using these two as an excuse.
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Is there an issue with blaming those two?
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This is how it normally goes.

I don't agree with them cutting peoples heads off bit if it weren't for Blair.........

That type of response looks like they're condoning these atrocities. There's no ifs and buts when you're murdering people.

The sad thing in cases like these is that with blood still on the walls people will rush to justify the actions of the terrorist rather than actually be angry at what happened.

A peculiar reaction

Someone thrown 30 feet from the blast.

Had to have been quite a bad explosion which is a bad sign for the eventual number of fatalities.

Nice to see so many people using events so fresh that absolutely no real information can be given for points scoring.

There are people missing friends, children and siblings. That is far more important than your own narrow judgements of the world.

comment by Poolmyfinger - American Eagle #YNWA #AupaAthle... (U12438)
posted 25 seconds ago
Stretty, oh so you aren't an apologist?
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I think what we have helped do to that continent is fecking disgusting.

It does not mean I approve of what they do in retaliation.

Eye for an eye leaves us all blind etc.

comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 12 seconds ago
terrorist attacks wouldn't drive support for right wing parties if the left wing ones actually grew some balls and get their heads out the sand.
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Maybe we could just stop blowing other countries back to the Stone Age. Might work.
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seriously st fu, so manys try to justify this stuff.
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It happens all the time, if it turns out to be terrorists, they'll start blaming Blair and Bush. Kung Fu is forever using these two as an excuse.
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"“In Dying to Win Robert P@pe presents the findings of the first comprehensive database of every suicide terrorist attack in the world from 1980 until today. Discrediting widely-held misconceptions on suicide terrorism, he creates for the first time a clear psychological, sociological and strategic profile for combating suicide attacks.

The data show that there is little connection between suicide terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism, or any one of the world’s religions. In fact, the leading instigators of suicide attacks are the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, a Marxist-Leninist group whose members are from Hindu families but who are adamantly opposed to religion. This group committed 76 of the 315 incidents, more suicide attacks than Hamas.

Rather, what nearly all suicide terrorist attacks have in common is a specific secular and strategic goal: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military forces from territory that the terrorists consider to be their homeland. Religion is rarely the root cause, although it is often used as a tool by terrorist organizations in recruiting and in other efforts in service of the broader strategic objective."

https://www.opendemocracy.net/arts/suicideterrorism_3836.jsp

Unless you can find evidence to suggest this violence is political I suggest you keep quiet before making your self look completely stupid.

comment by Robb : the Martin Samuel of ja606 (U21234)
posted 2 minutes ago
The sad thing in cases like these is that with blood still on the walls people will rush to justify the actions of the terrorist rather than actually be angry at what happened.

A peculiar reaction
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Yet again, understanding of the situation is not justification.

You say 'we' as though us citizens have played a role. It's not us who made those decisions. We have nothing to do with it

comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 49 seconds ago
Western interventionism is mostly an excuse used to appeal to idiots. Stretty, as well all know, is one of them
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It's not an excuse. There can be no excuse.

What there have to be, however, are serious and concerted attempts to understand where terrorist groups come from, how and why they are formed, how they recruit and operate, and why the people they recruit commit such terrible acts.

Such academic attempts have demonstrated repeatedly that Western interventionism *has contributed to* the creation and expansion of Islamist militant and terrorist groups, and has been used very successfully as a recruiting tool both in the Middle East and in radicalisation across the West.

comment by Poolmyfinger - American Eagle #YNWA #AupaAthletic (U12438)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Poolmyfinger - American Eagle #YNWA #AupaAthle... (U12438)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 12 seconds ago
terrorist attacks wouldn't drive support for right wing parties if the left wing ones actually grew some balls and get their heads out the sand.
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Maybe we could just stop blowing other countries back to the Stone Age. Might work.
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Another stupid comment. You have people BORN IN THE UK who are radicalized. Stopping any bombing isn't going to stop this.
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It's not about religion.

It's about these countries being reduced to rubble and yes they then radicalise people.


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It about religion you say?

So when they yell "allah ahkbar" or whatever, it had nothing to do with religion?

You are disgusting.
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Kori Ali Muhammad shot 16 rounds in 90 seconds in the shooting spree on Tuesday, said Police Chief Jerry Dyer.
He shouted "God is greatest" in Arabic when arrested but this was a hate crime not terrorism, Mr Dyer believed.

Mr Dyer added that Tuesday's attack "has nothing to do with terrorism in spite of the statements that he [Kori Ali Muhammad] made".

"He did clarify that the reason he had made that statement was that in the event that anything did happen to him that he was in fact pledging his allegiance to God for protection."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39636104


So yeah shouting Allahu Akbar doesn't mean it has anything to do with religion.

If a Muslim does something for religious reasons they'ed tell you they are doing it for God like every other person belonging to a religion.

Allahu Akbar wouldn't be a way in which a Muslim would announce they are doing something for God.

Ladies and gentlemen, Kung Fu is here

Killed more threads than a fire at Primark

comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 49 seconds ago
Western interventionism is mostly an excuse used to appeal to idiots. Stretty, as well all know, is one of them
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It's not an excuse. There can be no excuse.

What there have to be, however, are serious and concerted attempts to understand where terrorist groups come from, how and why they are formed, how they recruit and operate, and why the people they recruit commit such terrible acts.

Such academic attempts have demonstrated repeatedly that Western interventionism *has contributed to* the creation and expansion of Islamist militant and terrorist groups, and has been used very successfully as a recruiting tool both in the Middle East and in radicalisation across the West.
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This.

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Witness on TV this minute suggesting something is kicking off again, firemen rushing back into station, ambulances rushing off etc?!?!

Western intervention has stirred up a hornets nest

But they are still hornets.

comment by Robb : the Martin Samuel of ja606 (U21234)
posted 42 seconds ago
Ladies and gentlemen, Kung Fu is here

Killed more threads than a fire at Primark
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Because you have no reasonable response.

Here you are on your moral high horse calling the killing of civilians immoral yet you were justifying incinerating women and children with a nuclear bomb around a week ago.

Your brain is totally confused.

comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 53 seconds ago
Western Intervention obviously has played a part. Stretty's argument is incredibly simplistic though.
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I think the bombing of countries to rubble and killing millions is a huge factor.

I didn't say it was everything though

Defo the biggest however

Robb how about you respond to the evidence at hand?

comment by Cinci in G minor (U11551)
posted 47 seconds ago
Witness on TV this minute suggesting something is kicking off again, firemen rushing back into station, ambulances rushing off etc?!?!
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radio mentioned a suspicion of a second device, haven't followed up on it though

comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇵🇸 JeSuisPalestinian 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 12 seconds ago
terrorist attacks wouldn't drive support for right wing parties if the left wing ones actually grew some balls and get their heads out the sand.
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Maybe we could just stop blowing other countries back to the Stone Age. Might work.
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seriously st fu, so manys try to justify this stuff.
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It happens all the time, if it turns out to be terrorists, they'll start blaming Blair and Bush. Kung Fu is forever using these two as an excuse.
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"“In Dying to Win Robert P@pe presents the findings of the first comprehensive database of every suicide terrorist attack in the world from 1980 until today. Discrediting widely-held misconceptions on suicide terrorism, he creates for the first time a clear psychological, sociological and strategic profile for combating suicide attacks.

The data show that there is little connection between suicide terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism, or any one of the world’s religions. In fact, the leading instigators of suicide attacks are the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, a Marxist-Leninist group whose members are from Hindu families but who are adamantly opposed to religion. This group committed 76 of the 315 incidents, more suicide attacks than Hamas.

Rather, what nearly all suicide terrorist attacks have in common is a specific secular and strategic goal: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military forces from territory that the terrorists consider to be their homeland. Religion is rarely the root cause, although it is often used as a tool by terrorist organizations in recruiting and in other efforts in service of the broader strategic objective."

https://www.opendemocracy.net/arts/suicideterrorism_3836.jsp

Unless you can find evidence to suggest this violence is political I suggest you keep quiet before making your self look completely stupid.
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Remember when I brought up the treatment of Yazidis by Isis? You dismissed it because more Muslims have been killed. You claim you care about other religions but you're a liar.

Have you seen Isis:Origins of violence?