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Detonating a suspicious package near a park not far away

Kung Fu turns everything into a borefest

comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 38 seconds ago
stretty so why are most of the attacks in the middle east killing other muslim people?
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No doubt about it, the Middle East is in a shambles.

But we have heavily contributed to that shambles.

I'm sure you'll agree.
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I do agree, but there must be more to it than just 'western intevention' if most of the terrorists casualties are muslims not from the west.
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There is more to it.

It doesn't mean however a huge burden of responsibility does not fall on government and military for what has happened out there.

comment by Clockwork Red: blow a kiss, fire a gun (U4892)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Freedom FC (Welcome to Texas) (U7214)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by enlightened hippo - i got mou babe (U1301)
posted 41 minutes ago
why would you not expect this in manchester? pretty much the first place you would expect it.
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Dunno to be honest. I have my suspicions on who's behind the attack and would expect something like this to happen in a bigger city than Manchester. Probably jumping the gun too early but who knows.
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There have been lots of (relatively minor) attacks in smaller French and German cities. I suppose it's the nature of the lone wolf, really. Why go all the way to a capital city when there are soft targets elsewhere?
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Probably right. In the US, we aren't going to cover it unless it's in London, Paris, or Berlin. Or Brussels.

Oh wait, we are covering it because Ariana Grande was doing a concert.

comment by Robb : the Martin Samuel of ja606 (U21234)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Jalisco Red - Lionel Jesse (U4195)
posted 6 seconds ago
Can't believe (and yet can believe) how quickly this thread has descended into the usual bickering.
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It was absolutely fine till Berbaking turned up
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absolute bollox, I was following the thread until my name was mentioned and then I commented.

What you meant to say was everything was going ok with the people on the far right spouting their usual bollox backed up by nothing and the moment Berbaking threw in a little reasonable debate you didn't like it.

This discussion quickly turned to Islam and it didn't seem to bother you until somebody gave you a different reason.

comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇵🇸 JeSuisPalestinian 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Robb : the Martin Samuel of ja606 (U21234)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇵🇸 JeSuisPalestinian 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb : the Martin Samuel of ja606 (U21234)
posted 42 seconds ago
Ladies and gentlemen, Kung Fu is here

Killed more threads than a fire at Primark
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Because you have no reasonable response.

Here you are on your moral high horse calling the killing of civilians immoral yet you were justifying incinerating women and children with a nuclear bomb around a week ago.

Your brain is totally confused.

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The bombs in WW2 were justified and certainly a better option than a land invasion that would have killed millions of Japanese

And the killing of civilians is immoral. But in the Middle East the western forces don't want to kill innocent people. It's not their mission plan each morning

The person who did this tonight planned to kill children and lots of them. There is no excuse for that and talk of middle eastern politics changes nothing.

Pure evil was on show tonight. Nothing more, nothing less
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So much confusion in your brain it's tragic, especially because you call religious people brain washed when we can see you've been brain washed by nationalism.

A moment ago you said a billion children dying doesn't justify what happened today. Now you are justifying the mass killing of the Japanese. Can you see the double standards on display?

You said western forces don't attack civilians, ermmm you do know you just finished talking about western forces attacking Japanese civilians with nukes before you said that right?

Take away Japan and you have ample evidence of America attacking Vietnamese civilians, raping and killing them.

There is a well known problem of far right groups infiltrating western armies. What do you think skinheads are doing in Iraq right now?

http://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/1/281x351/263325_1.jpg

Then you have the notion that going into war knowing that you will be killing civilians or "collateral damage" is ok. It isn't.

If you know without a shadow of doubt civilians are going to die, it means you are targeting civilians.
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I'm talking about the Middle East and the current conflict

After the war with Japan and the nukings, I wonder why there wasn't a campaign of radicalised Japanese people attacking the west? Maybe they were a more educated and less savage bunch of people that what was stirred up in the Middle East.

Disrespectful cretins

Yeah guys feck off with your political bullshat

comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 17 seconds ago
Kung Fu turns everything into a borefest
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Sorry yeehawww USA USA USA make America great again.

Britain for the British!!!!

Better?

I'm off to bed, I think it's time to re-filter Kung Fu, can't be arsssed will his delusional BS.

I created a thread for all the political nonsense so it doesn't clutter the 606. Take it there.

http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/361140

comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇵🇸 JeSuisPalestinian 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 17 seconds ago
Kung Fu turns everything into a borefest
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Sorry yeehawww USA USA USA make America great again.

Britain for the British!!!!

Better?
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If the bomber turned out to be an Islamic terrorist would you give him the same vitriol you give the western government?

comment by Robb : the Martin Samuel of ja606 (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇵🇸 JeSuisPalestinian 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Robb : the Martin Samuel of ja606 (U21234)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇵🇸 JeSuisPalestinian 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb : the Martin Samuel of ja606 (U21234)
posted 42 seconds ago
Ladies and gentlemen, Kung Fu is here

Killed more threads than a fire at Primark
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Because you have no reasonable response.

Here you are on your moral high horse calling the killing of civilians immoral yet you were justifying incinerating women and children with a nuclear bomb around a week ago.

Your brain is totally confused.

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The bombs in WW2 were justified and certainly a better option than a land invasion that would have killed millions of Japanese

And the killing of civilians is immoral. But in the Middle East the western forces don't want to kill innocent people. It's not their mission plan each morning

The person who did this tonight planned to kill children and lots of them. There is no excuse for that and talk of middle eastern politics changes nothing.

Pure evil was on show tonight. Nothing more, nothing less
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So much confusion in your brain it's tragic, especially because you call religious people brain washed when we can see you've been brain washed by nationalism.

A moment ago you said a billion children dying doesn't justify what happened today. Now you are justifying the mass killing of the Japanese. Can you see the double standards on display?

You said western forces don't attack civilians, ermmm you do know you just finished talking about western forces attacking Japanese civilians with nukes before you said that right?

Take away Japan and you have ample evidence of America attacking Vietnamese civilians, raping and killing them.

There is a well known problem of far right groups infiltrating western armies. What do you think skinheads are doing in Iraq right now?

http://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/1/281x351/263325_1.jpg

Then you have the notion that going into war knowing that you will be killing civilians or "collateral damage" is ok. It isn't.

If you know without a shadow of doubt civilians are going to die, it means you are targeting civilians.
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I'm talking about the Middle East and the current conflict

After the war with Japan and the nukings, I wonder why there wasn't a campaign of radicalised Japanese people attacking the west? Maybe they were a more educated and less savage bunch of people that what was stirred up in the Middle East.
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Or they feared getting nuked again.

And the damage to Japan on the whole is not the same level as what's happened in the Middle East.

comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇵🇸 JeSuisPalestinian 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇵🇸 JeSuisPalestinian 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 12 seconds ago
terrorist attacks wouldn't drive support for right wing parties if the left wing ones actually grew some balls and get their heads out the sand.
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Maybe we could just stop blowing other countries back to the Stone Age. Might work.
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seriously st fu, so manys try to justify this stuff.
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It happens all the time, if it turns out to be terrorists, they'll start blaming Blair and Bush. Kung Fu is forever using these two as an excuse.
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"“In Dying to Win Robert P@pe presents the findings of the first comprehensive database of every suicide terrorist attack in the world from 1980 until today. Discrediting widely-held misconceptions on suicide terrorism, he creates for the first time a clear psychological, sociological and strategic profile for combating suicide attacks.

The data show that there is little connection between suicide terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism, or any one of the world’s religions. In fact, the leading instigators of suicide attacks are the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, a Marxist-Leninist group whose members are from Hindu families but who are adamantly opposed to religion. This group committed 76 of the 315 incidents, more suicide attacks than Hamas.

Rather, what nearly all suicide terrorist attacks have in common is a specific secular and strategic goal: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military forces from territory that the terrorists consider to be their homeland. Religion is rarely the root cause, although it is often used as a tool by terrorist organizations in recruiting and in other efforts in service of the broader strategic objective."

https://www.opendemocracy.net/arts/suicideterrorism_3836.jsp

Unless you can find evidence to suggest this violence is political I suggest you keep quiet before making your self look completely stupid.
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Remember when I brought up the treatment of Yazidis by Isis? You dismissed it because more Muslims have been killed. You claim you care about other religions but you're a liar.

Have you seen Isis:Origins of violence?
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Remember when that never happened?

You do know we have multiple people on this thread that we part of that debate.

I challenge you to pull out the quotes where I dismissed the death's of the Christians.

I also challenge to respond to the evidence above.
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I never said a thing about Christians? And you did dismiss the treatment of Yazidis by Isis. You want to watch that programme Kung Fu it's an eye opener.
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Like I said show me the quotes where I said it.

Do you remember when you said you like touching little boys?

What doesn't make sense from the video is that the explosion happened on the street outside the arena but yet the video shows everyone desperately trying to rush from the arena.

comment by Freedom FC (Welcome to Texas) (U7214)
posted 47 seconds ago
I created a thread for all the political nonsense so it doesn't clutter the 606. Take it there.

http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/361140
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Take it over there please people.

comment by Robb : the Martin Samuel of ja606 (U21234)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇵🇸 JeSuisPalestinian 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 17 seconds ago
Kung Fu turns everything into a borefest
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Sorry yeehawww USA USA USA make America great again.

Britain for the British!!!!

Better?
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If the bomber turned out to be an Islamic terrorist would you give him the same vitriol you give the western government?
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Absolutley. They are both nonces.

Ignorant arseholes.

comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb : the Martin Samuel of ja606 (U21234)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇵🇸 JeSuisPalestinian 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 17 seconds ago
Kung Fu turns everything into a borefest
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Sorry yeehawww USA USA USA make America great again.

Britain for the British!!!!

Better?
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If the bomber turned out to be an Islamic terrorist would you give him the same vitriol you give the western government?
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Absolutley. They are both nonces.
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Brass Eye

Anywho, I'm off to bed.

Thoughts with the innocents who died tonight through no fault of their own.

RIP

I'm talking about the Middle East and the current conflict

After the war with Japan and the nukings, I wonder why there wasn't a campaign of radicalised Japanese people attacking the west? Maybe they were a more educated and less savage bunch of people that what was stirred up in the Middle East.


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This is what I mean by brain washed.

What a disgusting quote from you as well Robb, it looks like you are generalising all people in the middle east as savages in these war torn countries? I'll give you an opportunity to withdraw that comment before I criticise it further.

Who are savages? The people in the middle east or the government who used nuclear bombs on civilians without needing to?

“When I asked General MacArthur about the decision to drop the bomb, I was surprised to learn he had not even been consulted. What, I asked, would his advice have been? He replied that he saw no military justification for the dropping of the bomb. The war might have ended weeks earlier, he said, if the United States had agreed, as it later did anyway, to the retention of the institution of the Emperor.” That’s from “The Pathology of Power,” by Norman Cousins.

-- “We didn't need to do it, and we knew we didn't need to do it, and they knew that we didn't need to do it, we used them as an experiment for two atomic bombs.” That’s Brig. Gen. Carter Clarke, quoted in “The Decision to Use the Atomic Bomb,” by Gar Alperovitz.

--“The Japanese position was hopeless even before the first atomic bomb fell because the Japanese had lost control of their own air.”-- Henry H. Arnold, commanding general of the U.S. Army Air Forces, Pacific Fleet.

--“The Japanese had, in fact, already sued for peace. The atomic bomb played no decisive part from a purely military point of view in the defeat of Japan. The use of atomic bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender.” - - Fleet Adm. Chester W. Nimitz, commander in chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet.

--“Certainly, prior to 31 December 1945, and in all probability, prior to 1 November 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if atomic bombs had not been dropped.” -- Adm. William D. Leahy, chief of staff to President Truman, in the U.S. Strategic Bombing Survey.

--“The war would have been over in two weeks without the Russians entering and without the atomic bomb. The atomic bomb had nothing to do with the end of the war at all.” --Maj. Gen. Curtis LeMay.

comment by Robb : the Martin Samuel of ja606 (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
Anywho, I'm off to bed.

Thoughts with the innocents who died tonight through no fault of their own.

RIP
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The same as the Japanese.

Good to see you are doing your usual runner.

comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇵🇸 JeSuisPalestinian 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Robb : the Martin Samuel of ja606 (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
Anywho, I'm off to bed.

Thoughts with the innocents who died tonight through no fault of their own.

RIP
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The same as the Japanese.

Good to see you are doing your usual runner.
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Just leave it

comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇵🇸 JeSuisPalestinian 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇵🇸 JeSuisPalestinian 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇵🇸 JeSuisPalestinian 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 12 seconds ago
terrorist attacks wouldn't drive support for right wing parties if the left wing ones actually grew some balls and get their heads out the sand.
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Maybe we could just stop blowing other countries back to the Stone Age. Might work.
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seriously st fu, so manys try to justify this stuff.
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It happens all the time, if it turns out to be terrorists, they'll start blaming Blair and Bush. Kung Fu is forever using these two as an excuse.
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"“In Dying to Win Robert P@pe presents the findings of the first comprehensive database of every suicide terrorist attack in the world from 1980 until today. Discrediting widely-held misconceptions on suicide terrorism, he creates for the first time a clear psychological, sociological and strategic profile for combating suicide attacks.

The data show that there is little connection between suicide terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism, or any one of the world’s religions. In fact, the leading instigators of suicide attacks are the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, a Marxist-Leninist group whose members are from Hindu families but who are adamantly opposed to religion. This group committed 76 of the 315 incidents, more suicide attacks than Hamas.

Rather, what nearly all suicide terrorist attacks have in common is a specific secular and strategic goal: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military forces from territory that the terrorists consider to be their homeland. Religion is rarely the root cause, although it is often used as a tool by terrorist organizations in recruiting and in other efforts in service of the broader strategic objective."

https://www.opendemocracy.net/arts/suicideterrorism_3836.jsp

Unless you can find evidence to suggest this violence is political I suggest you keep quiet before making your self look completely stupid.
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Remember when I brought up the treatment of Yazidis by Isis? You dismissed it because more Muslims have been killed. You claim you care about other religions but you're a liar.

Have you seen Isis:Origins of violence?
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Remember when that never happened?

You do know we have multiple people on this thread that we part of that debate.

I challenge you to pull out the quotes where I dismissed the death's of the Christians.

I also challenge to respond to the evidence above.
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I never said a thing about Christians? And you did dismiss the treatment of Yazidis by Isis. You want to watch that programme Kung Fu it's an eye opener.
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Like I said show me the quotes where I said it.

Do you remember when you said you like touching little boys?
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Turning paedophilia into a joke tut tut, how old was Aisha? Watch that programme Kung Fu you'll love it. I'm not going to root through over 12 months of threads to prove you're either a lair or you memory has gone to the dogs along with your morals.