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posted on 8/10/17

comment by DreamTeamBlue ! دريم تيم بلو ! (U5861)
posted 56 seconds ago
Then my words weren't for you. Where are you from?
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I don't think it is important where I am from to be honest. My country of birth does not make me any more, or less entitled to feel the way I do on this particular subject.

Likewise, you and others are entitled to feel the way you do, irrespective of your country of birth.

posted on 8/10/17

One cannot talk about moral compass if you haven't exhausted every last bit of energy you have for it. Before you cast a stone at another country or people you must look at the mirror and think have I done half of what Mandela or Gandhi did keeping their moral compass right? If the answer is yes then you have every right to voice your opinion, but if the answer is no and all you have done is voice your opinions over the internet then I don't think you have the right to talk about moral compass. You haven't earned the right for it. People who tell you that you have the right to say whatever you want are morons. You have to earn the right to say whatever you want after the actions for your beliefs and ideology.

comment by Verse (U20361)

posted on 8/10/17

Dream Team Blue are you Arabian by any chance?

posted on 8/10/17

Nope I'm not.

comment by Verse (U20361)

posted on 8/10/17

Ok!I asked because you have Arabic or Urdu in your username and both languages have same alphabets.

posted on 8/10/17

comment by DreamTeamBlue ! دريم تيم بلو ! (U5861)
posted 8 minutes ago
One cannot talk about moral compass if you haven't exhausted every last bit of energy you have for it. Before you cast a stone at another country or people you must look at the mirror and think have I done half of what Mandela or Gandhi did keeping their moral compass right? If the answer is yes then you have every right to voice your opinion, but if the answer is no and all you have done is voice your opinions over the internet then I don't think you have the right to talk about moral compass. You haven't earned the right for it. People who tell you that you have the right to say whatever you want are morons. You have to earn the right to say whatever you want after the actions for your beliefs and ideology.
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Well as far as I am concerned I have expressed my feelings on a particular subject via an internet forum that has been created to stimulate discussion and debate. We feel what we feel, and if we choose, or feel the need to be candid about our feelings I think that is every individual's right.

Without that right, how would people such as Mandela and MLK ever have started anything from scratch?

comment by tan-01 (U13896)

posted on 8/10/17

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 13 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by tan-01 (U13896)
posted 6 hours, 54 minutes ago
there is nothing wrong with having a world cup in russia
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If you are not bothered about democracy, then i can understand that view.
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they do have a democracy they have elections, would you call merkel a dictator

posted on 8/10/17

Well as far as I am concerned I have expressed my feelings on a particular subject via an internet forum that has been created to stimulate discussion and debate. We feel what we feel, and if we choose, or feel the need to be candid about our feelings I think that is every individual's right.
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You expressed your feeling alright, and then those who have responded are trying to find out the root of those feelings and how consistently you apply them. Else, your choice of who to demonize is just rather arbitrary or fed by adversarial anti-Russian media which is in no short supply in Western countries. It would have been fair, to avoid being hypocritical, to state your own country and those you find worthy of hosting tournaments and we can get to judge the consistency of your views.

posted on 8/10/17

comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 41 minutes ago
Well as far as I am concerned I have expressed my feelings on a particular subject via an internet forum that has been created to stimulate discussion and debate. We feel what we feel, and if we choose, or feel the need to be candid about our feelings I think that is every individual's right.
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You expressed your feeling alright, and then those who have responded are trying to find out the root of those feelings and how consistently you apply them. Else, your choice of who to demonize is just rather arbitrary or fed by adversarial anti-Russian media which is in no short supply in Western countries. It would have been fair, to avoid being hypocritical, to state your own country and those you find worthy of hosting tournaments and we can get to judge the consistency of your views.
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Can you please explain to me why an individual's right to feel a certain way about a subject is dependent on their country of birth? Is that not inequality? Actually, is that not the very foundation of what apartheid was built on? Is it not blatant racism?

Demonising? Really?

Russia admitted to a state doping program at Sochi, but as far as you are concerned its all an anti Russia media campaign?

Putin ripped up the Russian constitution to stay in power, but again that was just a made up anti Russian media campaign.

Putin critic Nalvany held in a detention centre so he can not stand in upcoming election...another made up story by Western media.

But then again many years ago the same thing happened to Mandela and that was made up too, so who should give a feck right?

I stated the criteria earlier on to where I consider the line crossed, which as I said is up to each individual to decide for themselves. As far as I feel the next two hosts of the World Cup cross that line.

You don't need to judge my views for consistency. What offends one individual will not necessarily offend another, unless of course you have put it upon yourself to be in a position to judge for some kind of global majority held view.

comment by tan-01 (U13896)

posted on 8/10/17

putins been the best world leader for the past 20 years by far

comment by tan-01 (U13896)

posted on 8/10/17

comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
Well as far as I am concerned I have expressed my feelings on a particular subject via an internet forum that has been created to stimulate discussion and debate. We feel what we feel, and if we choose, or feel the need to be candid about our feelings I think that is every individual's right.
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You expressed your feeling alright, and then those who have responded are trying to find out the root of those feelings and how consistently you apply them. Else, your choice of who to demonize is just rather arbitrary or fed by adversarial anti-Russian media which is in no short supply in Western countries. It would have been fair, to avoid being hypocritical, to state your own country and those you find worthy of hosting tournaments and we can get to judge the consistency of your views.
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hes probably american,since they are mad that hilarys corruption was exposed and kept kept secret from the public

posted on 8/10/17

"Russia admitted to a state doping program at Sochi, but as far as you are concerned its all an anti Russia media campaign?"

No. It's just not relevant to Russia's ability to host the World Cup. I'd understand though if that weighed on bids for the Olympics, athletic meets, swimming, cycling etc.

"Putin ripped up the Russian constitution to stay in power, but again that was just a made up anti Russian media campaign."

What does this have to do with football any more than the regime-changing US-led NATO alliance.

"Putin critic Nalvany held in a detention centre so he can not stand in upcoming election...another made up story by Western media."

Why does this matter any more than countries that murder thousands of mostly "collateral" casualties in drone strikes? And what does it have to do with the ability to host a football tournament?

posted on 9/10/17

comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 7 minutes ago
"Russia admitted to a state doping program at Sochi, but as far as you are concerned its all an anti Russia media campaign?"

No. It's just not relevant to Russia's ability to host the World Cup. I'd understand though if that weighed on bids for the Olympics, athletic meets, swimming, cycling etc.

"Putin ripped up the Russian constitution to stay in power, but again that was just a made up anti Russian media campaign."

What does this have to do with football any more than the regime-changing US-led NATO alliance.

"Putin critic Nalvany held in a detention centre so he can not stand in upcoming election...another made up story by Western media."

Why does this matter any more than countries that murder thousands of mostly "collateral" casualties in drone strikes? And what does it have to do with the ability to host a football tournament?

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My article and feeling on this issue is not about ability to host sporting events, so i am not sute why you keep getting drawn to that word 'ability'?. The only time I touched on ability was in response to your first mention of Russia's ability to host sporting events. Even though it is not my original point, since you keep raising it, I will ask you the same question again "In what way has a country that state sponsored doping when it hosted the Winter Olympics demonstrated it has the ability to host a major global sporting event/

posted on 9/10/17

comment by tan-01 (U13896)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
Well as far as I am concerned I have expressed my feelings on a particular subject via an internet forum that has been created to stimulate discussion and debate. We feel what we feel, and if we choose, or feel the need to be candid about our feelings I think that is every individual's right.
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You expressed your feeling alright, and then those who have responded are trying to find out the root of those feelings and how consistently you apply them. Else, your choice of who to demonize is just rather arbitrary or fed by adversarial anti-Russian media which is in no short supply in Western countries. It would have been fair, to avoid being hypocritical, to state your own country and those you find worthy of hosting tournaments and we can get to judge the consistency of your views.
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hes probably american,since they are mad that hilarys corruption was exposed and kept kept secret from the public
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Nice bit of racial stereo typing there, well done.

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comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 7 minutes ago
"Russia admitted to a state doping program at Sochi, but as far as you are concerned its all an anti Russia media campaign?"

No. It's just not relevant to Russia's ability to host the World Cup. I'd understand though if that weighed on bids for the Olympics, athletic meets, swimming, cycling etc.

"Putin ripped up the Russian constitution to stay in power, but again that was just a made up anti Russian media campaign."

What does this have to do with football any more than the regime-changing US-led NATO alliance.

"Putin critic Nalvany held in a detention centre so he can not stand in upcoming election...another made up story by Western media."

Why does this matter any more than countries that murder thousands of mostly "collateral" casualties in drone strikes? And what does it have to do with the ability to host a football tournament?

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My article and feeling on this issue is not about ability to host sporting events, so i am not sute why you keep getting drawn to that word 'ability'?. The only time I touched on ability was in response to your first mention of Russia's ability to host sporting events. Even though it is not my original point, since you keep raising it, I will ask you the same question again "In what way has a country that state sponsored doping when it hosted the Winter Olympics demonstrated it has the ability to host a major global sporting event/
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Because they violated no FIFA regulations and it's irrelevant. And it seems more a line you're conveniently squeezing in and stressing when potential hypocrisy was getting pointed out (even though you still won't state where you're from and who you'd support to host) about your political slant.

posted on 9/10/17

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posted on 9/10/17

Quite a lot of difference between a country using drones to kill terrorists and a country sponsoring a dictator who silences their press.

But whatever, you sound like a coke-addled Corbynista so let's just get to the main point here -

There is a standard of stability, democracy and minority rights a country should have to be allowed to host a tournament that people from all over the globe come to.

I accept FIFA have taken a different view since the tournament's creation in 1930 but that doesn't make us hypocrites for thinking differently.
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Review of America's drone strikes have yielded as much as 90% civilian casualty rate. The UK and the US have sponsored and armed loads of murderous, repressive regimes and even still shamelessly courts the petrodollars of the head-chopping Saudi regime.

I'm not sure what you "Corbinista" horsesheite means, but I'm not a UK voter.

"Standards of democracy, stability and minority rights". Just because centuries of the UK's globe-trotting imperialism has somewhat attained it a legacy of a racially diverse society doesn't put you on any higher moral pedestal than Russia. It simply means they're on a different stage of their social evolution and as they continue to open up to the world, will organically evolve to attain the inclusiveness of other societies.

posted on 9/10/17

This is nonsense.

Absolute nonsense.

Liberating Iraq from a dictator who gassed Kurds, committed numerous war crimes and defied international law is not comparable to religiously motivated oppression of minorities, freedom of speech, and legal equality.

As for libya, tell me wise one, what would you have done when Gaddafi had legitimate means and the desire to massacre his own people...

stand by. If so, you make me sick.

As for exporting arms to Saudi Arabia, this is the biggest red herring in the anti-west bible. I despise the Saud family but compared to the willing support offered to Saudi Arabia by every developed nation on earth, in what way is Britain worthy of special condemnation? Considering Britain is one of the biggest providers of international aid in the world, I say we have a lot to be damn proud of frankly.

As for Burma, a lot of people are thinking about it. But considering you damn Britain when they do intervene to protect minorities like in Iraq or Afghanistan, and then damn them when they don't intervene like in Burma, I'd suggest your politics are fundamentally insincere.

Now get back in your sty and feast on the anti-West Corbynista swill that you have fattened your flatulent azz with.
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This is so absurd, I can't be bothered to summon the energy to respond to it. I'm clearly talking to one of the stereotypical wingnut, chicken-hawks.

Goodnight.

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comment by Always NPE - 1,000,002 (U20804)
posted 5 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 5 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by DreamTeamBlue ! دريم تيم بلو ! (U5861)
posted 6 minutes ago
Get off of your high horse. How many human rights did your country thought of while bombing women and children in Iraq, Libya etc. How much does your country think of human lives when being the second biggest exporter of weapons in the world to countries like Saudi that are massacering yamenis and Burma ethnically cleansing their country. You're living in a palace made of glass don't throw Stones at others. Keep sports and politics separate, Our lives and conscious has been destroyed by politics and sports specially football is an escape from it. It's something that's above politics and brings people of all the world together. Keep your outdated propaganda influenced ideas to yourself
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This is nonsense.

Absolute nonsense.

Liberating Iraq from a dictator who gassed Kurds, committed numerous war crimes and defied international law is not comparable to religiously motivated oppression of minorities, freedom of speech, and legal equality.

As for libya, tell me wise one, what would you have done when Gaddafi had legitimate means and the desire to massacre his own people...

stand by. If so, you make me sick.

As for exporting arms to Saudi Arabia, this is the biggest red herring in the anti-west bible. I despise the Saud family but compared to the willing support offered to Saudi Arabia by every developed nation on earth, in what way is Britain worthy of special condemnation? Considering Britain is one of the biggest providers of international aid in the world, I say we have a lot to be damn proud of frankly.

As for Burma, a lot of people are thinking about it. But considering you damn Britain when they do intervene to protect minorities like in Iraq or Afghanistan, and then damn them when they don't intervene like in Burma, I'd suggest your politics are fundamentally insincere.

Now get back in your sty and feast on the anti-West Corbynista swill that you have fattened your flatulent azz with.

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You're being fattened by the media that's why you have forgotten why U.S. and Britian attacked Iraq. It wasn't because of the dictator Saddam. It was about WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION . That was in caps just to jog your memory a little. Lo and behold there were no weapons of mass destruction! It was all a hoax to get Britain to steal their oil and sell them guns and tanks which later were used by Isis.

Now come let's talk about interventions, U.S. France and Britian intervened in Libya because qaddafi was trying to get rid of dollars from African continent and free it's people from the slavery of west. Iraq had oil, lots of it that's why Britain "intervened" . Afghanistan has been an infatuation if Britian since time beginning due to its location to Russia and China, and let's not forget that central Asia is the biggest deposit of untouched natural resources left in the world. Since the Burmese, Egyptian , saudi and bahrain government buys guns, no interventions no matter how much human rights violations happens there.

People have eyes, ears and memory. They were once fooled by Iraq and Afghanistan war. You can't expect to play the same game over and over again and believe no one will figure you out.

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