I dont think you pay the fee for driving through short stay Arab, thats not drop off
But i presume you have to pay the min stay charge to get in and out
If you drive through short stay by accident you'll have to pay the 30 min charge which is like a fiver. I didn't know driving through drop off by accident though meant you still had the pay the charge.
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It seems there were multiple windows to intervene directly - be it social services, neighbours, relatives, school and at every point they just utterly, utterly, failed.
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Don’t give me that shiiiit about social services, you don’t know what the Fack you’re talking about.
So please elaborate on what social services missed
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The Guardian:
Yet social workers, notified by Arthur’s grandmother of bruising to his shoulders, found “no safeguarding concerns” after visiting the boy two months before he was murdered. One believed Arthur was “very happy”.
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I don’t think you have a clue, do you actually think the reporting of a bruise means social services can step in
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No, what I am saying is they probably should investigate a little bit more thoroughly than they actually did. I appreciate you're a little slow on the uptake so I will use CAPS LOCK next time
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You do understand that kids get bruises everyday and typically they aren’t a result of abuse.
Do you realise how easy it would be for an abuser to cover their tracks over a report of a bruise claim.
Like I said you don’t have clue.
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You do know there were multiple reports and claims from people concerned about his welfare - right?
Also - who to believe you, a rando online, or expert analysis, like this:
"Social services staff should have spoken to Arthur about his bruises, the Director of Association of Child Protection Professionals has said."
Or
"Lord Laming led the public inquiry into the death of Victoria Climbie, who was killed by her great-aunt and her partner in 2000, and reviewed the case of baby Peter Connelly, who died in 2007 at the hands of his mother, her boyfriend and their lodger. He said the quality of training for social work "needs to be looked at again".
Or
"Former Children's Commissioner for England Anne Longfield told Today: "A lot of the services went on to the screens for children, and this child in particular, Arthur, wasn't in school.
"So there's a big lesson there, instantly about if there is a crisis, there are children who are going to slip from view and we have to make sure they have the protection, which does need face-to-face contact."
And that's all from one BBC article - it really isn't hard to find evidence social services dropped the ball here, pal.
Like I said before, this country didn't learn from its mistakes from the Baby P murder. Every tiny institution we have in the UK just feels like it's gone backwards.
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It seems there were multiple windows to intervene directly - be it social services, neighbours, relatives, school and at every point they just utterly, utterly, failed.
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Don’t give me that shiiiit about social services, you don’t know what the Fack you’re talking about.
So please elaborate on what social services missed
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The Guardian:
Yet social workers, notified by Arthur’s grandmother of bruising to his shoulders, found “no safeguarding concerns” after visiting the boy two months before he was murdered. One believed Arthur was “very happy”.
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I don’t think you have a clue, do you actually think the reporting of a bruise means social services can step in
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No, what I am saying is they probably should investigate a little bit more thoroughly than they actually did. I appreciate you're a little slow on the uptake so I will use CAPS LOCK next time
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You do understand that kids get bruises everyday and typically they aren’t a result of abuse.
Do you realise how easy it would be for an abuser to cover their tracks over a report of a bruise claim.
Like I said you don’t have clue.
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I think it’s probably a case of both. My sister did social care for a short while. It’s easy to cover up abuse and it’s easy to miss something.
It’s like doctors, it’s inevitable that a mistake will be made and sadly when mistakes are made in this sector, the results are tragic.
Plus, hindsight is always 20/20
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The point is sadly the reporting of bruises isn’t generally enough for social services to get involved due to lack of resources and the fact that kids innocently gets bruises all the times.
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It seems there were multiple windows to intervene directly - be it social services, neighbours, relatives, school and at every point they just utterly, utterly, failed.
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Don’t give me that shiiiit about social services, you don’t know what the Fack you’re talking about.
So please elaborate on what social services missed
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The Guardian:
Yet social workers, notified by Arthur’s grandmother of bruising to his shoulders, found “no safeguarding concerns” after visiting the boy two months before he was murdered. One believed Arthur was “very happy”.
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I don’t think you have a clue, do you actually think the reporting of a bruise means social services can step in
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No, what I am saying is they probably should investigate a little bit more thoroughly than they actually did. I appreciate you're a little slow on the uptake so I will use CAPS LOCK next time
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You do understand that kids get bruises everyday and typically they aren’t a result of abuse.
Do you realise how easy it would be for an abuser to cover their tracks over a report of a bruise claim.
Like I said you don’t have clue.
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You do know there were multiple reports and claims from people concerned about his welfare - right?
Also - who to believe you, a rando online, or expert analysis, like this:
"Social services staff should have spoken to Arthur about his bruises, the Director of Association of Child Protection Professionals has said."
Or
"Lord Laming led the public inquiry into the death of Victoria Climbie, who was killed by her great-aunt and her partner in 2000, and reviewed the case of baby Peter Connelly, who died in 2007 at the hands of his mother, her boyfriend and their lodger. He said the quality of training for social work "needs to be looked at again".
Or
"Former Children's Commissioner for England Anne Longfield told Today: "A lot of the services went on to the screens for children, and this child in particular, Arthur, wasn't in school.
"So there's a big lesson there, instantly about if there is a crisis, there are children who are going to slip from view and we have to make sure they have the protection, which does need face-to-face contact."
And that's all from one BBC article - it really isn't hard to find evidence social services dropped the ball here, pal.
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Yet you haven’t given me an example
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It seems there were multiple windows to intervene directly - be it social services, neighbours, relatives, school and at every point they just utterly, utterly, failed.
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Don’t give me that shiiiit about social services, you don’t know what the Fack you’re talking about.
So please elaborate on what social services missed
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The Guardian:
Yet social workers, notified by Arthur’s grandmother of bruising to his shoulders, found “no safeguarding concerns” after visiting the boy two months before he was murdered. One believed Arthur was “very happy”.
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I don’t think you have a clue, do you actually think the reporting of a bruise means social services can step in
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No, what I am saying is they probably should investigate a little bit more thoroughly than they actually did. I appreciate you're a little slow on the uptake so I will use CAPS LOCK next time
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You do understand that kids get bruises everyday and typically they aren’t a result of abuse.
Do you realise how easy it would be for an abuser to cover their tracks over a report of a bruise claim.
Like I said you don’t have clue.
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You do know there were multiple reports and claims from people concerned about his welfare - right?
Also - who to believe you, a rando online, or expert analysis, like this:
"Social services staff should have spoken to Arthur about his bruises, the Director of Association of Child Protection Professionals has said."
Or
"Lord Laming led the public inquiry into the death of Victoria Climbie, who was killed by her great-aunt and her partner in 2000, and reviewed the case of baby Peter Connelly, who died in 2007 at the hands of his mother, her boyfriend and their lodger. He said the quality of training for social work "needs to be looked at again".
Or
"Former Children's Commissioner for England Anne Longfield told Today: "A lot of the services went on to the screens for children, and this child in particular, Arthur, wasn't in school.
"So there's a big lesson there, instantly about if there is a crisis, there are children who are going to slip from view and we have to make sure they have the protection, which does need face-to-face contact."
And that's all from one BBC article - it really isn't hard to find evidence social services dropped the ball here, pal.
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Yet you haven’t given me an example
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Err...learn to read
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It seems there were multiple windows to intervene directly - be it social services, neighbours, relatives, school and at every point they just utterly, utterly, failed.
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Don’t give me that shiiiit about social services, you don’t know what the Fack you’re talking about.
So please elaborate on what social services missed
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The Guardian:
Yet social workers, notified by Arthur’s grandmother of bruising to his shoulders, found “no safeguarding concerns” after visiting the boy two months before he was murdered. One believed Arthur was “very happy”.
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I don’t think you have a clue, do you actually think the reporting of a bruise means social services can step in
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No, what I am saying is they probably should investigate a little bit more thoroughly than they actually did. I appreciate you're a little slow on the uptake so I will use CAPS LOCK next time
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You do understand that kids get bruises everyday and typically they aren’t a result of abuse.
Do you realise how easy it would be for an abuser to cover their tracks over a report of a bruise claim.
Like I said you don’t have clue.
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You do know there were multiple reports and claims from people concerned about his welfare - right?
Also - who to believe you, a rando online, or expert analysis, like this:
"Social services staff should have spoken to Arthur about his bruises, the Director of Association of Child Protection Professionals has said."
Or
"Lord Laming led the public inquiry into the death of Victoria Climbie, who was killed by her great-aunt and her partner in 2000, and reviewed the case of baby Peter Connelly, who died in 2007 at the hands of his mother, her boyfriend and their lodger. He said the quality of training for social work "needs to be looked at again".
Or
"Former Children's Commissioner for England Anne Longfield told Today: "A lot of the services went on to the screens for children, and this child in particular, Arthur, wasn't in school.
"So there's a big lesson there, instantly about if there is a crisis, there are children who are going to slip from view and we have to make sure they have the protection, which does need face-to-face contact."
And that's all from one BBC article - it really isn't hard to find evidence social services dropped the ball here, pal.
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Yet you haven’t given me an example
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Err...learn to read
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Nah that’s a few sound bites, I’ll wait for the official report where all sides have been heard.
Here we go again
After every tragedy:
Eg “Baby P”
1. Heads must roll
2. Introduce a tick box risk assessment
3. Hundreds of professionals leave
4. A yr later more children killed by their carers
What we should do:
Listen to experts
Fund services better
Share info
Save lives https://t.co/Iw9x9HfxZ6
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Here we go again
After every tragedy:
Eg “Baby P”
1. Heads must roll
2. Introduce a tick box risk assessment
3. Hundreds of professionals leave
4. A yr later more children killed by their carers
What we should do:
Listen to experts
Fund services better
Share info
Save lives https://t.co/Iw9x9HfxZ6
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Yawn.
Stop criticising views you want others to hold, rather than those they actually express.
I said Arthur's death reflects wider societal failings - and pointed to multiple parties and moments.
Pranks picked up on the social services criticism and I pointed to quotes and statements of fact suggesting they made mistakes here.
Now, you can make generic calls for 'funding' which is a euphemism for higher taxes and pretend to be some lone voice of reason, but maybe try basic reading first.
Unless you actually think social services clearly did there job and nobody but the parents can face any criticism then frankly your points are irrelevant.
Especially as I quoted experts, and made reference to sharing information.
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It seems there were multiple windows to intervene directly - be it social services, neighbours, relatives, school and at every point they just utterly, utterly, failed.
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Don’t give me that shiiiit about social services, you don’t know what the Fack you’re talking about.
So please elaborate on what social services missed
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The Guardian:
Yet social workers, notified by Arthur’s grandmother of bruising to his shoulders, found “no safeguarding concerns” after visiting the boy two months before he was murdered. One believed Arthur was “very happy”.
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I don’t think you have a clue, do you actually think the reporting of a bruise means social services can step in
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No, what I am saying is they probably should investigate a little bit more thoroughly than they actually did. I appreciate you're a little slow on the uptake so I will use CAPS LOCK next time
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You do understand that kids get bruises everyday and typically they aren’t a result of abuse.
Do you realise how easy it would be for an abuser to cover their tracks over a report of a bruise claim.
Like I said you don’t have clue.
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You do know there were multiple reports and claims from people concerned about his welfare - right?
Also - who to believe you, a rando online, or expert analysis, like this:
"Social services staff should have spoken to Arthur about his bruises, the Director of Association of Child Protection Professionals has said."
Or
"Lord Laming led the public inquiry into the death of Victoria Climbie, who was killed by her great-aunt and her partner in 2000, and reviewed the case of baby Peter Connelly, who died in 2007 at the hands of his mother, her boyfriend and their lodger. He said the quality of training for social work "needs to be looked at again".
Or
"Former Children's Commissioner for England Anne Longfield told Today: "A lot of the services went on to the screens for children, and this child in particular, Arthur, wasn't in school.
"So there's a big lesson there, instantly about if there is a crisis, there are children who are going to slip from view and we have to make sure they have the protection, which does need face-to-face contact."
And that's all from one BBC article - it really isn't hard to find evidence social services dropped the ball here, pal.
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Yet you haven’t given me an example
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Err...learn to read
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Nah that’s a few sound bites, I’ll wait for the official report where all sides have been heard.
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You asked for quotes, I gave them to you - and I will be amazed if you wait for official inquiries before providing opinions on any issue - or that you unquestioningly agree with every committee report ever made....
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Here we go again
After every tragedy:
Eg “Baby P”
1. Heads must roll
2. Introduce a tick box risk assessment
3. Hundreds of professionals leave
4. A yr later more children killed by their carers
What we should do:
Listen to experts
Fund services better
Share info
Save lives https://t.co/Iw9x9HfxZ6
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Yawn.
Stop criticising views you want others to hold, rather than those they actually express.
I said Arthur's death reflects wider societal failings - and pointed to multiple parties and moments.
Pranks picked up on the social services criticism and I pointed to quotes and statements of fact suggesting they made mistakes here.
Now, you can make generic calls for 'funding' which is a euphemism for higher taxes and pretend to be some lone voice of reason, but maybe try basic reading first.
Unless you actually think social services clearly did there job and nobody but the parents can face any criticism then frankly your points are irrelevant.
Especially as I quoted experts, and made reference to sharing information.
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Wtf is wrong with you
I'm posting the tweet from a former chief prosecutor with a history of expertise in domestic violence becuase it's relevant
Why did you feel the need to react like that? 🤔
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Here we go again
After every tragedy:
Eg “Baby P”
1. Heads must roll
2. Introduce a tick box risk assessment
3. Hundreds of professionals leave
4. A yr later more children killed by their carers
What we should do:
Listen to experts
Fund services better
Share info
Save lives https://t.co/Iw9x9HfxZ6
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Yawn.
Stop criticising views you want others to hold, rather than those they actually express.
I said Arthur's death reflects wider societal failings - and pointed to multiple parties and moments.
Pranks picked up on the social services criticism and I pointed to quotes and statements of fact suggesting they made mistakes here.
Now, you can make generic calls for 'funding' which is a euphemism for higher taxes and pretend to be some lone voice of reason, but maybe try basic reading first.
Unless you actually think social services clearly did there job and nobody but the parents can face any criticism then frankly your points are irrelevant.
Especially as I quoted experts, and made reference to sharing information.
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Wtf is wrong with you
I'm posting the tweet from a former chief prosecutor with a history of expertise in domestic violence becuase it's relevant
Why did you feel the need to react like that? 🤔
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Oh please - don't try and cover your arze for your silly attempt to pile in pal.
You're a very angry man pal and I think when it's in reaction to cases like this throwing even more emotion at is distasteful
Nafir Afzal knows infinitely more than you ever will about cases like this, his opinion matters. You might not like what he says but you won't be able to just shut it down with aggressive posts on here
It is likely more productive to look to understand WHY mistakes were made (either in decision-making/actions by authorities, or in policies/procedures in place) in this tragic case.
An initial starter for 10; look at whether the workload of those working in social work is well balanced between supply and demand. This is complicated as the reporting of this by DfE has become increasingly politicised with practioners strongly disagreeing with the measuring techniques employed by the government.
Another one; in the initial impact of covid, how well equipped were social workers to continue their casework?
On the positive side (and putting aside political differences) there is a more competent minister in at DfE which should be helpful for that part of the review, but unless the review looks into quantity AND quality of funding for social services (I.e. supply) I struggle to see how it will lead to positive change.
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It seems there were multiple windows to intervene directly - be it social services, neighbours, relatives, school and at every point they just utterly, utterly, failed.
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Don’t give me that shiiiit about social services, you don’t know what the Fack you’re talking about.
So please elaborate on what social services missed
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The Guardian:
Yet social workers, notified by Arthur’s grandmother of bruising to his shoulders, found “no safeguarding concerns” after visiting the boy two months before he was murdered. One believed Arthur was “very happy”.
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I don’t think you have a clue, do you actually think the reporting of a bruise means social services can step in
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No, what I am saying is they probably should investigate a little bit more thoroughly than they actually did. I appreciate you're a little slow on the uptake so I will use CAPS LOCK next time
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You do understand that kids get bruises everyday and typically they aren’t a result of abuse.
Do you realise how easy it would be for an abuser to cover their tracks over a report of a bruise claim.
Like I said you don’t have clue.
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You do know there were multiple reports and claims from people concerned about his welfare - right?
Also - who to believe you, a rando online, or expert analysis, like this:
"Social services staff should have spoken to Arthur about his bruises, the Director of Association of Child Protection Professionals has said."
Or
"Lord Laming led the public inquiry into the death of Victoria Climbie, who was killed by her great-aunt and her partner in 2000, and reviewed the case of baby Peter Connelly, who died in 2007 at the hands of his mother, her boyfriend and their lodger. He said the quality of training for social work "needs to be looked at again".
Or
"Former Children's Commissioner for England Anne Longfield told Today: "A lot of the services went on to the screens for children, and this child in particular, Arthur, wasn't in school.
"So there's a big lesson there, instantly about if there is a crisis, there are children who are going to slip from view and we have to make sure they have the protection, which does need face-to-face contact."
And that's all from one BBC article - it really isn't hard to find evidence social services dropped the ball here, pal.
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Yet you haven’t given me an example
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Err...learn to read
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Nah that’s a few sound bites, I’ll wait for the official report where all sides have been heard.
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You asked for quotes, I gave them to you - and I will be amazed if you wait for official inquiries before providing opinions on any issue - or that you unquestioningly agree with every committee report ever made....
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Quotes no, evidence of the interaction between the family and social services which at the moment isn’t clear.
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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
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Here we go again
After every tragedy:
Eg “Baby P”
1. Heads must roll
2. Introduce a tick box risk assessment
3. Hundreds of professionals leave
4. A yr later more children killed by their carers
What we should do:
Listen to experts
Fund services better
Share info
Save lives https://t.co/Iw9x9HfxZ6
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The headline on that newspaper is so disgustingly populist.
He should start by looking at the last 12 years of underfunding of the service and ensure they have the capacity to do their jobs properly.
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Cost for travel from Belgium to an EU country: €0
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I've been looking for holidays during my week off in Jan... The cost of it all has really gone up!!
Lol MPs caught doing coke in the commons
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I dont think you pay the fee for driving through short stay Arab, thats not drop off
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But i presume you have to pay the min stay charge to get in and out
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If you drive through short stay by accident you'll have to pay the 30 min charge which is like a fiver. I didn't know driving through drop off by accident though meant you still had the pay the charge.
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It seems there were multiple windows to intervene directly - be it social services, neighbours, relatives, school and at every point they just utterly, utterly, failed.
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Don’t give me that shiiiit about social services, you don’t know what the Fack you’re talking about.
So please elaborate on what social services missed
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The Guardian:
Yet social workers, notified by Arthur’s grandmother of bruising to his shoulders, found “no safeguarding concerns” after visiting the boy two months before he was murdered. One believed Arthur was “very happy”.
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I don’t think you have a clue, do you actually think the reporting of a bruise means social services can step in
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No, what I am saying is they probably should investigate a little bit more thoroughly than they actually did. I appreciate you're a little slow on the uptake so I will use CAPS LOCK next time
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You do understand that kids get bruises everyday and typically they aren’t a result of abuse.
Do you realise how easy it would be for an abuser to cover their tracks over a report of a bruise claim.
Like I said you don’t have clue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do know there were multiple reports and claims from people concerned about his welfare - right?
Also - who to believe you, a rando online, or expert analysis, like this:
"Social services staff should have spoken to Arthur about his bruises, the Director of Association of Child Protection Professionals has said."
Or
"Lord Laming led the public inquiry into the death of Victoria Climbie, who was killed by her great-aunt and her partner in 2000, and reviewed the case of baby Peter Connelly, who died in 2007 at the hands of his mother, her boyfriend and their lodger. He said the quality of training for social work "needs to be looked at again".
Or
"Former Children's Commissioner for England Anne Longfield told Today: "A lot of the services went on to the screens for children, and this child in particular, Arthur, wasn't in school.
"So there's a big lesson there, instantly about if there is a crisis, there are children who are going to slip from view and we have to make sure they have the protection, which does need face-to-face contact."
And that's all from one BBC article - it really isn't hard to find evidence social services dropped the ball here, pal.
posted on 5/12/21
Like I said before, this country didn't learn from its mistakes from the Baby P murder. Every tiny institution we have in the UK just feels like it's gone backwards.
posted on 5/12/21
I agree
posted on 5/12/21
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It seems there were multiple windows to intervene directly - be it social services, neighbours, relatives, school and at every point they just utterly, utterly, failed.
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Don’t give me that shiiiit about social services, you don’t know what the Fack you’re talking about.
So please elaborate on what social services missed
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The Guardian:
Yet social workers, notified by Arthur’s grandmother of bruising to his shoulders, found “no safeguarding concerns” after visiting the boy two months before he was murdered. One believed Arthur was “very happy”.
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I don’t think you have a clue, do you actually think the reporting of a bruise means social services can step in
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No, what I am saying is they probably should investigate a little bit more thoroughly than they actually did. I appreciate you're a little slow on the uptake so I will use CAPS LOCK next time
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You do understand that kids get bruises everyday and typically they aren’t a result of abuse.
Do you realise how easy it would be for an abuser to cover their tracks over a report of a bruise claim.
Like I said you don’t have clue.
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I think it’s probably a case of both. My sister did social care for a short while. It’s easy to cover up abuse and it’s easy to miss something.
It’s like doctors, it’s inevitable that a mistake will be made and sadly when mistakes are made in this sector, the results are tragic.
Plus, hindsight is always 20/20
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The point is sadly the reporting of bruises isn’t generally enough for social services to get involved due to lack of resources and the fact that kids innocently gets bruises all the times.
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It seems there were multiple windows to intervene directly - be it social services, neighbours, relatives, school and at every point they just utterly, utterly, failed.
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Don’t give me that shiiiit about social services, you don’t know what the Fack you’re talking about.
So please elaborate on what social services missed
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The Guardian:
Yet social workers, notified by Arthur’s grandmother of bruising to his shoulders, found “no safeguarding concerns” after visiting the boy two months before he was murdered. One believed Arthur was “very happy”.
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I don’t think you have a clue, do you actually think the reporting of a bruise means social services can step in
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No, what I am saying is they probably should investigate a little bit more thoroughly than they actually did. I appreciate you're a little slow on the uptake so I will use CAPS LOCK next time
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You do understand that kids get bruises everyday and typically they aren’t a result of abuse.
Do you realise how easy it would be for an abuser to cover their tracks over a report of a bruise claim.
Like I said you don’t have clue.
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You do know there were multiple reports and claims from people concerned about his welfare - right?
Also - who to believe you, a rando online, or expert analysis, like this:
"Social services staff should have spoken to Arthur about his bruises, the Director of Association of Child Protection Professionals has said."
Or
"Lord Laming led the public inquiry into the death of Victoria Climbie, who was killed by her great-aunt and her partner in 2000, and reviewed the case of baby Peter Connelly, who died in 2007 at the hands of his mother, her boyfriend and their lodger. He said the quality of training for social work "needs to be looked at again".
Or
"Former Children's Commissioner for England Anne Longfield told Today: "A lot of the services went on to the screens for children, and this child in particular, Arthur, wasn't in school.
"So there's a big lesson there, instantly about if there is a crisis, there are children who are going to slip from view and we have to make sure they have the protection, which does need face-to-face contact."
And that's all from one BBC article - it really isn't hard to find evidence social services dropped the ball here, pal.
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Yet you haven’t given me an example
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It seems there were multiple windows to intervene directly - be it social services, neighbours, relatives, school and at every point they just utterly, utterly, failed.
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Don’t give me that shiiiit about social services, you don’t know what the Fack you’re talking about.
So please elaborate on what social services missed
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The Guardian:
Yet social workers, notified by Arthur’s grandmother of bruising to his shoulders, found “no safeguarding concerns” after visiting the boy two months before he was murdered. One believed Arthur was “very happy”.
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I don’t think you have a clue, do you actually think the reporting of a bruise means social services can step in
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No, what I am saying is they probably should investigate a little bit more thoroughly than they actually did. I appreciate you're a little slow on the uptake so I will use CAPS LOCK next time
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You do understand that kids get bruises everyday and typically they aren’t a result of abuse.
Do you realise how easy it would be for an abuser to cover their tracks over a report of a bruise claim.
Like I said you don’t have clue.
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You do know there were multiple reports and claims from people concerned about his welfare - right?
Also - who to believe you, a rando online, or expert analysis, like this:
"Social services staff should have spoken to Arthur about his bruises, the Director of Association of Child Protection Professionals has said."
Or
"Lord Laming led the public inquiry into the death of Victoria Climbie, who was killed by her great-aunt and her partner in 2000, and reviewed the case of baby Peter Connelly, who died in 2007 at the hands of his mother, her boyfriend and their lodger. He said the quality of training for social work "needs to be looked at again".
Or
"Former Children's Commissioner for England Anne Longfield told Today: "A lot of the services went on to the screens for children, and this child in particular, Arthur, wasn't in school.
"So there's a big lesson there, instantly about if there is a crisis, there are children who are going to slip from view and we have to make sure they have the protection, which does need face-to-face contact."
And that's all from one BBC article - it really isn't hard to find evidence social services dropped the ball here, pal.
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Yet you haven’t given me an example
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Err...learn to read
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It seems there were multiple windows to intervene directly - be it social services, neighbours, relatives, school and at every point they just utterly, utterly, failed.
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Don’t give me that shiiiit about social services, you don’t know what the Fack you’re talking about.
So please elaborate on what social services missed
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The Guardian:
Yet social workers, notified by Arthur’s grandmother of bruising to his shoulders, found “no safeguarding concerns” after visiting the boy two months before he was murdered. One believed Arthur was “very happy”.
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I don’t think you have a clue, do you actually think the reporting of a bruise means social services can step in
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No, what I am saying is they probably should investigate a little bit more thoroughly than they actually did. I appreciate you're a little slow on the uptake so I will use CAPS LOCK next time
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You do understand that kids get bruises everyday and typically they aren’t a result of abuse.
Do you realise how easy it would be for an abuser to cover their tracks over a report of a bruise claim.
Like I said you don’t have clue.
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You do know there were multiple reports and claims from people concerned about his welfare - right?
Also - who to believe you, a rando online, or expert analysis, like this:
"Social services staff should have spoken to Arthur about his bruises, the Director of Association of Child Protection Professionals has said."
Or
"Lord Laming led the public inquiry into the death of Victoria Climbie, who was killed by her great-aunt and her partner in 2000, and reviewed the case of baby Peter Connelly, who died in 2007 at the hands of his mother, her boyfriend and their lodger. He said the quality of training for social work "needs to be looked at again".
Or
"Former Children's Commissioner for England Anne Longfield told Today: "A lot of the services went on to the screens for children, and this child in particular, Arthur, wasn't in school.
"So there's a big lesson there, instantly about if there is a crisis, there are children who are going to slip from view and we have to make sure they have the protection, which does need face-to-face contact."
And that's all from one BBC article - it really isn't hard to find evidence social services dropped the ball here, pal.
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Yet you haven’t given me an example
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Err...learn to read
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Nah that’s a few sound bites, I’ll wait for the official report where all sides have been heard.
posted on 5/12/21
Here we go again
After every tragedy:
Eg “Baby P”
1. Heads must roll
2. Introduce a tick box risk assessment
3. Hundreds of professionals leave
4. A yr later more children killed by their carers
What we should do:
Listen to experts
Fund services better
Share info
Save lives https://t.co/Iw9x9HfxZ6
posted on 5/12/21
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 14 minutes ago
Here we go again
After every tragedy:
Eg “Baby P”
1. Heads must roll
2. Introduce a tick box risk assessment
3. Hundreds of professionals leave
4. A yr later more children killed by their carers
What we should do:
Listen to experts
Fund services better
Share info
Save lives https://t.co/Iw9x9HfxZ6
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Yawn.
Stop criticising views you want others to hold, rather than those they actually express.
I said Arthur's death reflects wider societal failings - and pointed to multiple parties and moments.
Pranks picked up on the social services criticism and I pointed to quotes and statements of fact suggesting they made mistakes here.
Now, you can make generic calls for 'funding' which is a euphemism for higher taxes and pretend to be some lone voice of reason, but maybe try basic reading first.
Unless you actually think social services clearly did there job and nobody but the parents can face any criticism then frankly your points are irrelevant.
Especially as I quoted experts, and made reference to sharing information.
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It seems there were multiple windows to intervene directly - be it social services, neighbours, relatives, school and at every point they just utterly, utterly, failed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Don’t give me that shiiiit about social services, you don’t know what the Fack you’re talking about.
So please elaborate on what social services missed
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The Guardian:
Yet social workers, notified by Arthur’s grandmother of bruising to his shoulders, found “no safeguarding concerns” after visiting the boy two months before he was murdered. One believed Arthur was “very happy”.
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I don’t think you have a clue, do you actually think the reporting of a bruise means social services can step in
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No, what I am saying is they probably should investigate a little bit more thoroughly than they actually did. I appreciate you're a little slow on the uptake so I will use CAPS LOCK next time
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do understand that kids get bruises everyday and typically they aren’t a result of abuse.
Do you realise how easy it would be for an abuser to cover their tracks over a report of a bruise claim.
Like I said you don’t have clue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do know there were multiple reports and claims from people concerned about his welfare - right?
Also - who to believe you, a rando online, or expert analysis, like this:
"Social services staff should have spoken to Arthur about his bruises, the Director of Association of Child Protection Professionals has said."
Or
"Lord Laming led the public inquiry into the death of Victoria Climbie, who was killed by her great-aunt and her partner in 2000, and reviewed the case of baby Peter Connelly, who died in 2007 at the hands of his mother, her boyfriend and their lodger. He said the quality of training for social work "needs to be looked at again".
Or
"Former Children's Commissioner for England Anne Longfield told Today: "A lot of the services went on to the screens for children, and this child in particular, Arthur, wasn't in school.
"So there's a big lesson there, instantly about if there is a crisis, there are children who are going to slip from view and we have to make sure they have the protection, which does need face-to-face contact."
And that's all from one BBC article - it really isn't hard to find evidence social services dropped the ball here, pal.
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Yet you haven’t given me an example
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Err...learn to read
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Nah that’s a few sound bites, I’ll wait for the official report where all sides have been heard.
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You asked for quotes, I gave them to you - and I will be amazed if you wait for official inquiries before providing opinions on any issue - or that you unquestioningly agree with every committee report ever made....
posted on 5/12/21
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posted 14 minutes ago
Here we go again
After every tragedy:
Eg “Baby P”
1. Heads must roll
2. Introduce a tick box risk assessment
3. Hundreds of professionals leave
4. A yr later more children killed by their carers
What we should do:
Listen to experts
Fund services better
Share info
Save lives https://t.co/Iw9x9HfxZ6
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yawn.
Stop criticising views you want others to hold, rather than those they actually express.
I said Arthur's death reflects wider societal failings - and pointed to multiple parties and moments.
Pranks picked up on the social services criticism and I pointed to quotes and statements of fact suggesting they made mistakes here.
Now, you can make generic calls for 'funding' which is a euphemism for higher taxes and pretend to be some lone voice of reason, but maybe try basic reading first.
Unless you actually think social services clearly did there job and nobody but the parents can face any criticism then frankly your points are irrelevant.
Especially as I quoted experts, and made reference to sharing information.
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Wtf is wrong with you
I'm posting the tweet from a former chief prosecutor with a history of expertise in domestic violence becuase it's relevant
Why did you feel the need to react like that? 🤔
posted on 5/12/21
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posted 29 seconds ago
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posted 14 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 14 minutes ago
Here we go again
After every tragedy:
Eg “Baby P”
1. Heads must roll
2. Introduce a tick box risk assessment
3. Hundreds of professionals leave
4. A yr later more children killed by their carers
What we should do:
Listen to experts
Fund services better
Share info
Save lives https://t.co/Iw9x9HfxZ6
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Yawn.
Stop criticising views you want others to hold, rather than those they actually express.
I said Arthur's death reflects wider societal failings - and pointed to multiple parties and moments.
Pranks picked up on the social services criticism and I pointed to quotes and statements of fact suggesting they made mistakes here.
Now, you can make generic calls for 'funding' which is a euphemism for higher taxes and pretend to be some lone voice of reason, but maybe try basic reading first.
Unless you actually think social services clearly did there job and nobody but the parents can face any criticism then frankly your points are irrelevant.
Especially as I quoted experts, and made reference to sharing information.
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Wtf is wrong with you
I'm posting the tweet from a former chief prosecutor with a history of expertise in domestic violence becuase it's relevant
Why did you feel the need to react like that? 🤔
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Oh please - don't try and cover your arze for your silly attempt to pile in pal.
posted on 5/12/21
You're a very angry man pal and I think when it's in reaction to cases like this throwing even more emotion at is distasteful
Nafir Afzal knows infinitely more than you ever will about cases like this, his opinion matters. You might not like what he says but you won't be able to just shut it down with aggressive posts on here
posted on 5/12/21
It is likely more productive to look to understand WHY mistakes were made (either in decision-making/actions by authorities, or in policies/procedures in place) in this tragic case.
An initial starter for 10; look at whether the workload of those working in social work is well balanced between supply and demand. This is complicated as the reporting of this by DfE has become increasingly politicised with practioners strongly disagreeing with the measuring techniques employed by the government.
Another one; in the initial impact of covid, how well equipped were social workers to continue their casework?
On the positive side (and putting aside political differences) there is a more competent minister in at DfE which should be helpful for that part of the review, but unless the review looks into quantity AND quality of funding for social services (I.e. supply) I struggle to see how it will lead to positive change.
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It seems there were multiple windows to intervene directly - be it social services, neighbours, relatives, school and at every point they just utterly, utterly, failed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Don’t give me that shiiiit about social services, you don’t know what the Fack you’re talking about.
So please elaborate on what social services missed
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Guardian:
Yet social workers, notified by Arthur’s grandmother of bruising to his shoulders, found “no safeguarding concerns” after visiting the boy two months before he was murdered. One believed Arthur was “very happy”.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t think you have a clue, do you actually think the reporting of a bruise means social services can step in
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, what I am saying is they probably should investigate a little bit more thoroughly than they actually did. I appreciate you're a little slow on the uptake so I will use CAPS LOCK next time
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do understand that kids get bruises everyday and typically they aren’t a result of abuse.
Do you realise how easy it would be for an abuser to cover their tracks over a report of a bruise claim.
Like I said you don’t have clue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do know there were multiple reports and claims from people concerned about his welfare - right?
Also - who to believe you, a rando online, or expert analysis, like this:
"Social services staff should have spoken to Arthur about his bruises, the Director of Association of Child Protection Professionals has said."
Or
"Lord Laming led the public inquiry into the death of Victoria Climbie, who was killed by her great-aunt and her partner in 2000, and reviewed the case of baby Peter Connelly, who died in 2007 at the hands of his mother, her boyfriend and their lodger. He said the quality of training for social work "needs to be looked at again".
Or
"Former Children's Commissioner for England Anne Longfield told Today: "A lot of the services went on to the screens for children, and this child in particular, Arthur, wasn't in school.
"So there's a big lesson there, instantly about if there is a crisis, there are children who are going to slip from view and we have to make sure they have the protection, which does need face-to-face contact."
And that's all from one BBC article - it really isn't hard to find evidence social services dropped the ball here, pal.
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Yet you haven’t given me an example
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Err...learn to read
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Nah that’s a few sound bites, I’ll wait for the official report where all sides have been heard.
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You asked for quotes, I gave them to you - and I will be amazed if you wait for official inquiries before providing opinions on any issue - or that you unquestioningly agree with every committee report ever made....
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Quotes no, evidence of the interaction between the family and social services which at the moment isn’t clear.
posted on 5/12/21
Current cost of required COVID tests for a family of 4 to travel from Belgium to the UK: €960
Cost for travel from Belgium to an EU country: €0
https://twitter.com/davekeating/status/1467416360724709377?s=21
Brexit Britain
posted on 5/12/21
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posted on 5/12/21
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 6 hours, 32 minutes ago
Here we go again
After every tragedy:
Eg “Baby P”
1. Heads must roll
2. Introduce a tick box risk assessment
3. Hundreds of professionals leave
4. A yr later more children killed by their carers
What we should do:
Listen to experts
Fund services better
Share info
Save lives https://t.co/Iw9x9HfxZ6
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The headline on that newspaper is so disgustingly populist.
He should start by looking at the last 12 years of underfunding of the service and ensure they have the capacity to do their jobs properly.
posted on 5/12/21
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posted 27 minutes ago
Current cost of required COVID tests for a family of 4 to travel from Belgium to the UK: €960
Cost for travel from Belgium to an EU country: €0
https://twitter.com/davekeating/status/1467416360724709377?s=21
Brexit Britain
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I've been looking for holidays during my week off in Jan... The cost of it all has really gone up!!
posted on 6/12/21
Lol MPs caught doing coke in the commons
posted on 6/12/21
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 34 minutes ago
Lol MPs caught doing coke in the commons
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That’s why they call it Whitehall
posted on 6/12/21
🚨🚨 | BREAKING: Boris Johnson is planning to let ministers throw out any legal rulings they don’t like
Via @thetimes
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