I mean’t EU citizens seeking asylum on economic grounds
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Tommy Robinson has been arrested in Canada on suspicion of immigration offences.
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Fvcking lol
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We have a responsibility to help genuine refugees from Iraq and Afghanistan but he’s right about people from Bangladesh, Pakistan, India etc
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There are people fleeing all three of those countries who have a very legitimate right to seek, and be granted, asylum on various grounds.
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They are not classified as unsafe countries by the UK though
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Just because a country is deemed to be ‘safe’, it doesn’t mean that any given individual is going to be safe if they return there.
IIRC, asylum seekers arriving from ‘safe’ countries have their applications fast-tracked (because it is deemed that they’re more likely to have their applications denied).
But a country of origin/legal residency being considered ‘safe’ by the UK does not automatically invalidate an asylum application, and rightly so.
Even EU citizens are able to claim asylum in the UK.
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On economic grounds?
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Poverty and economic conditions are not grounds to seek asylum in the UK.
Like any other claim, they'd need to attempt to demonstrate they couldn't live safely in the country they're fleeing due to persecution.
Given blanket rights and protections across EU countries, any applicant from the EU would probably be an Assange-type journalist/whistleblower of some kind. Possibly a politician.
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comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 11 minutes ago
We have a responsibility to help genuine refugees from Iraq and Afghanistan but he’s right about people from Bangladesh, Pakistan, India etc
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There are people fleeing all three of those countries who have a very legitimate right to seek, and be granted, asylum on various grounds.
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They are not classified as unsafe countries by the UK though
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Just because a country is deemed to be ‘safe’, it doesn’t mean that any given individual is going to be safe if they return there.
IIRC, asylum seekers arriving from ‘safe’ countries have their applications fast-tracked (because it is deemed that they’re more likely to have their applications denied).
But a country of origin/legal residency being considered ‘safe’ by the UK does not automatically invalidate an asylum application, and rightly so.
Even EU citizens are able to claim asylum in the UK.
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On economic grounds?
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In the case of Bangladesh it'll be environment based due to recent constantly reoccuring floods. Pakistan due to a volatile political situation, with Imran Khan being jailed and even his party's symbol of a cricket bat being banned. India due to Hindu Modi's authoritarian attitude towards Indian Muslims, although His power waned in recent elections.
Got to stop falling asleep with the World Service on
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Bangladesh could be any number of reasons I'd guess: religious, political, sexual persecution, etc.
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
In fact let’s just have a look at what you wrote in detail.
Firstly, your numbers are absolute fvcking nonsense, so you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about, again.
A simple google search of how many asylum seekers in the world there are shows the following.
https://www.unhcr.org/uk/about-unhcr/who-we-are/figures-glance
To then follow that up with the clearly loaded question of ‘Do you think we should take them all?’ is just plainly ridiculous.
No-one, ever, has said the UK should take all the world’s asylum seekers and lucky for you, we don’t. Not anywhere near. It’s not even close.
Throw in the fact you have also called them ‘illegals’, which isn’t even a word, then it’s hard not to think that you shouldn’t be allowed internet access.
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Out of interest, seeing as you're so intelligent, how exactly do we find out if someone has an legitimate claim for asylum when they come from countries like Iraq and Afghanistan?
I think you misunderstand what I posted. I didn't mean we should take every single asylum seeker, I mean everyone who claims asylum in the UK. Is there no upper limit?
If you had said 50 years ago that 60% of babies born in London were to foreign mothers people like you would have said you're just scaremongering.
How unbelievably pathetic and desperate to send this to your members
https://x.com/Adrian_Hilton/status/1805302823900344782
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
In fact let’s just have a look at what you wrote in detail.
Firstly, your numbers are absolute fvcking nonsense, so you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about, again.
A simple google search of how many asylum seekers in the world there are shows the following.
https://www.unhcr.org/uk/about-unhcr/who-we-are/figures-glance
To then follow that up with the clearly loaded question of ‘Do you think we should take them all?’ is just plainly ridiculous.
No-one, ever, has said the UK should take all the world’s asylum seekers and lucky for you, we don’t. Not anywhere near. It’s not even close.
Throw in the fact you have also called them ‘illegals’, which isn’t even a word, then it’s hard not to think that you shouldn’t be allowed internet access.
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Out of interest, seeing as you're so intelligent, how exactly do we find out if someone has an legitimate claim for asylum when they come from countries like Iraq and Afghanistan?
I think you misunderstand what I posted. I didn't mean we should take every single asylum seeker, I mean everyone who claims asylum in the UK. Is there no upper limit?
If you had said 50 years ago that 60% of babies born in London were to foreign mothers people like you would have said you're just scaremongering.
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Personally, I would have said, “Why would anyone other than a racist and/or xenophobe think that that would be scary?”
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posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
Tommy Robinson has been arrested in Canada on suspicion of immigration offences.
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Fvcking lol
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
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That 60% of new mothers in London are.foreign born. Tell me where that is a PROBLEM
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
In fact let’s just have a look at what you wrote in detail.
Firstly, your numbers are absolute fvcking nonsense, so you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about, again.
A simple google search of how many asylum seekers in the world there are shows the following.
https://www.unhcr.org/uk/about-unhcr/who-we-are/figures-glance
To then follow that up with the clearly loaded question of ‘Do you think we should take them all?’ is just plainly ridiculous.
No-one, ever, has said the UK should take all the world’s asylum seekers and lucky for you, we don’t. Not anywhere near. It’s not even close.
Throw in the fact you have also called them ‘illegals’, which isn’t even a word, then it’s hard not to think that you shouldn’t be allowed internet access.
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Out of interest, seeing as you're so intelligent, how exactly do we find out if someone has an legitimate claim for asylum when they come from countries like Iraq and Afghanistan?
I think you misunderstand what I posted. I didn't mean we should take every single asylum seeker, I mean everyone who claims asylum in the UK. Is there no upper limit?
If you had said 50 years ago that 60% of babies born in London were to foreign mothers people like you would have said you're just scaremongering.
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I didn’t misunderstand anything, you wrote a stupid post filled with hyperbole and nonsense.
Just so you know, in 2023 there were less than 68000 asylum applications (source: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn01403/#:~:text=Asylum%20applications,included%20in%20a%20single%20application).
This related to 84500 individuals which is a whopping 0.13% of our population. A third of those were rejected anyway.
You’re worried about a problem that doesn’t exist and given our influence on many of those countries, and taking into account the billions we make from selling arms, I see that as more than fair.
I’m going to lay off you though from now on. I don’t think you are capable of differentiation between immigrants, illegal immigrants, and asylum seekers and no offence, but you come across as really not very bright, easily influenced and bigoted.
Have a nice day though!
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
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That 60% of new mothers in London are.foreign born. Tell me where that is a PROBLEM
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Again, you’re missing his point entirely.
He’s not saying that it’s a problem. He’s saying that if you said that to someone 50 years ago then it would have been labelled as scaremongering.
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posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 12 minutes ago
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comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
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That 60% of new mothers in London are.foreign born. Tell me where that is a PROBLEM
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Again, you’re missing his point entirely.
He’s not saying that it’s a problem. He’s saying that if you said that to someone 50 years ago then it would have been labelled as scaremongering.
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It's not 1974 and that's not his point.
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I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
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That 60% of new mothers in London are.foreign born. Tell me where that is a PROBLEM
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Again, you’re missing his point entirely.
He’s not saying that it’s a problem. He’s saying that if you said that to someone 50 years ago then it would have been labelled as scaremongering.
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It's not 1974 and that's not his point.
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Good Lord. Ok bro 😎
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posted 12 minutes ago
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comment by Hector (U3606)
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I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
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That 60% of new mothers in London are.foreign born. Tell me where that is a PROBLEM
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Again, you’re missing his point entirely.
He’s not saying that it’s a problem. He’s saying that if you said that to someone 50 years ago then it would have been labelled as scaremongering.
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It's not 1974 and that's not his point.
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Good Lord. Ok bro 😎
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Ok good.
The Conservative party doesn't agree with Pawl.
Support withdrawn from the 2 gamblers.
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posted 12 minutes ago
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comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
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That 60% of new mothers in London are.foreign born. Tell me where that is a PROBLEM
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Again, you’re missing his point entirely.
He’s not saying that it’s a problem. He’s saying that if you said that to someone 50 years ago then it would have been labelled as scaremongering.
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Powell's rivers of blood speech was in 68 so the concept of shock at the amounts of migrants and the threat of being taken over wasn't new in 74 on both the right and left.
I assume Clapfree's interpretation of how people would react in 74 is based on an idealised vision of the country back then despite probably not being alive.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 hours, 43 minutes ago
"Study finds ‘huge rise in working households pushed into poverty’ under Tories
Welcome to the Guardian’s live coverage of the UK General Election with me, Helen Sullivan.
Two reports have revealed the devastating effects of low wages and price increases under Conservative rule on the lives of 900,000 children, the Guardian’s Hazel Sheffield and Larry Elliott report.
Reports have highlighted the link between rising child poverty and slow wage growth under five Conservative governments since 2010 – the slowest growth since the second world war. Both main parties are proposing tough welfare spending plans.
Research by the Trades Union Congress (TUC) found that over the past 14 years, an additional 1,350 children a week in households with at least one working parent had been dragged into poverty.
Paul Nowak, the general secretary of the TUC, said: “No child in Britain should be growing up below the breadline. But under the Conservatives we have seen a huge rise in working households being pushed into poverty.”
If only the proles would work a bit harder and give up Netflix then they would be fine.
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All worth it if they can stop the boats.
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 12 minutes ago
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comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
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That 60% of new mothers in London are.foreign born. Tell me where that is a PROBLEM
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Again, you’re missing his point entirely.
He’s not saying that it’s a problem. He’s saying that if you said that to someone 50 years ago then it would have been labelled as scaremongering.
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Powell's rivers of blood speech was in 68 so the concept of shock at the amounts of migrants and the threat of being taken over wasn't new in 74 on both the right and left.
I assume Clapfree's interpretation of how people would react in 74 is based on an idealised vision of the country back then despite probably not being alive.
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Sure. I wasn’t saying that clapfree was right nor that it was wrong but Hector just completely misunderstood his point. Wilfully, no doubt
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posted 2 minutes ago
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
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That 60% of new mothers in London are.foreign born. Tell me where that is a PROBLEM
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Again, you’re missing his point entirely.
He’s not saying that it’s a problem. He’s saying that if you said that to someone 50 years ago then it would have been labelled as scaremongering.
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Powell's rivers of blood speech was in 68 so the concept of shock at the amounts of migrants and the threat of being taken over wasn't new in 74 on both the right and left.
I assume Clapfree's interpretation of how people would react in 74 is based on an idealised vision of the country back then despite probably not being alive.
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Sure. I wasn’t saying that clapfree was right nor that it was wrong but Hector just completely misunderstood his point. Wilfully, no doubt
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Blah blah blah.
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posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
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That 60% of new mothers in London are.foreign born. Tell me where that is a PROBLEM
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Again, you’re missing his point entirely.
He’s not saying that it’s a problem. He’s saying that if you said that to someone 50 years ago then it would have been labelled as scaremongering.
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It would have been a statement of fact, not scaremongering.
Back then they were perfecting international and immigration law, opening up the world for our governments and corporates to exploit labour and natural resources across the world. We wanted it as free and as easy to access as possible.
We should have stayed in our own countries the last few hundred years and then we wouldn't be having this problem.
My foreign born mother gave birth 3 times 50+ years ago not a peep from anyone, nobody cared.
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
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That 60% of new mothers in London are.foreign born. Tell me where that is a PROBLEM
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Again, you’re missing his point entirely.
He’s not saying that it’s a problem. He’s saying that if you said that to someone 50 years ago then it would have been labelled as scaremongering.
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Powell's rivers of blood speech was in 68 so the concept of shock at the amounts of migrants and the threat of being taken over wasn't new in 74 on both the right and left.
I assume Clapfree's interpretation of how people would react in 74 is based on an idealised vision of the country back then despite probably not being alive.
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Sure. I wasn’t saying that clapfree was right nor that it was wrong but Hector just completely misunderstood his point. Wilfully, no doubt
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Its not the first time Clapfree has made barbed comments about foreign women giving birth in this country. I don't believe you're niave to ignore the obvious associated meaning of his comment.
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posted less than a minute ago
My foreign born mother gave birth 3 times 50+ years ago not a peep from anyone, nobody cared.
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Decades old leaked USSR/Russian secret documents detail a plan to defeat the west by using the west's diversity to provoke culture wars and internal division, because the military option was certain defeat.
I have to say they're doing a brilliant job. People say the Cold War ended but it didn't end for Russia and they might come out tops on the end as we continue to devour ourselves from within.
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posted on 25/6/24
I mean’t EU citizens seeking asylum on economic grounds
posted on 25/6/24
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
Tommy Robinson has been arrested in Canada on suspicion of immigration offences.
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Fvcking lol
posted on 25/6/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
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comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 11 minutes ago
We have a responsibility to help genuine refugees from Iraq and Afghanistan but he’s right about people from Bangladesh, Pakistan, India etc
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There are people fleeing all three of those countries who have a very legitimate right to seek, and be granted, asylum on various grounds.
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They are not classified as unsafe countries by the UK though
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Just because a country is deemed to be ‘safe’, it doesn’t mean that any given individual is going to be safe if they return there.
IIRC, asylum seekers arriving from ‘safe’ countries have their applications fast-tracked (because it is deemed that they’re more likely to have their applications denied).
But a country of origin/legal residency being considered ‘safe’ by the UK does not automatically invalidate an asylum application, and rightly so.
Even EU citizens are able to claim asylum in the UK.
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On economic grounds?
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Poverty and economic conditions are not grounds to seek asylum in the UK.
Like any other claim, they'd need to attempt to demonstrate they couldn't live safely in the country they're fleeing due to persecution.
Given blanket rights and protections across EU countries, any applicant from the EU would probably be an Assange-type journalist/whistleblower of some kind. Possibly a politician.
posted on 25/6/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
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posted 9 minutes ago
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posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 11 minutes ago
We have a responsibility to help genuine refugees from Iraq and Afghanistan but he’s right about people from Bangladesh, Pakistan, India etc
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There are people fleeing all three of those countries who have a very legitimate right to seek, and be granted, asylum on various grounds.
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They are not classified as unsafe countries by the UK though
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Just because a country is deemed to be ‘safe’, it doesn’t mean that any given individual is going to be safe if they return there.
IIRC, asylum seekers arriving from ‘safe’ countries have their applications fast-tracked (because it is deemed that they’re more likely to have their applications denied).
But a country of origin/legal residency being considered ‘safe’ by the UK does not automatically invalidate an asylum application, and rightly so.
Even EU citizens are able to claim asylum in the UK.
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On economic grounds?
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In the case of Bangladesh it'll be environment based due to recent constantly reoccuring floods. Pakistan due to a volatile political situation, with Imran Khan being jailed and even his party's symbol of a cricket bat being banned. India due to Hindu Modi's authoritarian attitude towards Indian Muslims, although His power waned in recent elections.
Got to stop falling asleep with the World Service on
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Bangladesh could be any number of reasons I'd guess: religious, political, sexual persecution, etc.
posted on 25/6/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
In fact let’s just have a look at what you wrote in detail.
Firstly, your numbers are absolute fvcking nonsense, so you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about, again.
A simple google search of how many asylum seekers in the world there are shows the following.
https://www.unhcr.org/uk/about-unhcr/who-we-are/figures-glance
To then follow that up with the clearly loaded question of ‘Do you think we should take them all?’ is just plainly ridiculous.
No-one, ever, has said the UK should take all the world’s asylum seekers and lucky for you, we don’t. Not anywhere near. It’s not even close.
Throw in the fact you have also called them ‘illegals’, which isn’t even a word, then it’s hard not to think that you shouldn’t be allowed internet access.
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Out of interest, seeing as you're so intelligent, how exactly do we find out if someone has an legitimate claim for asylum when they come from countries like Iraq and Afghanistan?
I think you misunderstand what I posted. I didn't mean we should take every single asylum seeker, I mean everyone who claims asylum in the UK. Is there no upper limit?
If you had said 50 years ago that 60% of babies born in London were to foreign mothers people like you would have said you're just scaremongering.
posted on 25/6/24
How unbelievably pathetic and desperate to send this to your members
https://x.com/Adrian_Hilton/status/1805302823900344782
posted on 25/6/24
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
posted on 25/6/24
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
posted on 25/6/24
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
In fact let’s just have a look at what you wrote in detail.
Firstly, your numbers are absolute fvcking nonsense, so you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about, again.
A simple google search of how many asylum seekers in the world there are shows the following.
https://www.unhcr.org/uk/about-unhcr/who-we-are/figures-glance
To then follow that up with the clearly loaded question of ‘Do you think we should take them all?’ is just plainly ridiculous.
No-one, ever, has said the UK should take all the world’s asylum seekers and lucky for you, we don’t. Not anywhere near. It’s not even close.
Throw in the fact you have also called them ‘illegals’, which isn’t even a word, then it’s hard not to think that you shouldn’t be allowed internet access.
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Out of interest, seeing as you're so intelligent, how exactly do we find out if someone has an legitimate claim for asylum when they come from countries like Iraq and Afghanistan?
I think you misunderstand what I posted. I didn't mean we should take every single asylum seeker, I mean everyone who claims asylum in the UK. Is there no upper limit?
If you had said 50 years ago that 60% of babies born in London were to foreign mothers people like you would have said you're just scaremongering.
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Personally, I would have said, “Why would anyone other than a racist and/or xenophobe think that that would be scary?”
posted on 25/6/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules... (U6374)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
Tommy Robinson has been arrested in Canada on suspicion of immigration offences.
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Fvcking lol
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posted on 25/6/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
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That 60% of new mothers in London are.foreign born. Tell me where that is a PROBLEM
posted on 25/6/24
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
In fact let’s just have a look at what you wrote in detail.
Firstly, your numbers are absolute fvcking nonsense, so you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about, again.
A simple google search of how many asylum seekers in the world there are shows the following.
https://www.unhcr.org/uk/about-unhcr/who-we-are/figures-glance
To then follow that up with the clearly loaded question of ‘Do you think we should take them all?’ is just plainly ridiculous.
No-one, ever, has said the UK should take all the world’s asylum seekers and lucky for you, we don’t. Not anywhere near. It’s not even close.
Throw in the fact you have also called them ‘illegals’, which isn’t even a word, then it’s hard not to think that you shouldn’t be allowed internet access.
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Out of interest, seeing as you're so intelligent, how exactly do we find out if someone has an legitimate claim for asylum when they come from countries like Iraq and Afghanistan?
I think you misunderstand what I posted. I didn't mean we should take every single asylum seeker, I mean everyone who claims asylum in the UK. Is there no upper limit?
If you had said 50 years ago that 60% of babies born in London were to foreign mothers people like you would have said you're just scaremongering.
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I didn’t misunderstand anything, you wrote a stupid post filled with hyperbole and nonsense.
Just so you know, in 2023 there were less than 68000 asylum applications (source: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn01403/#:~:text=Asylum%20applications,included%20in%20a%20single%20application).
This related to 84500 individuals which is a whopping 0.13% of our population. A third of those were rejected anyway.
You’re worried about a problem that doesn’t exist and given our influence on many of those countries, and taking into account the billions we make from selling arms, I see that as more than fair.
I’m going to lay off you though from now on. I don’t think you are capable of differentiation between immigrants, illegal immigrants, and asylum seekers and no offence, but you come across as really not very bright, easily influenced and bigoted.
Have a nice day though!
posted on 25/6/24
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
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That 60% of new mothers in London are.foreign born. Tell me where that is a PROBLEM
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Again, you’re missing his point entirely.
He’s not saying that it’s a problem. He’s saying that if you said that to someone 50 years ago then it would have been labelled as scaremongering.
posted on 25/6/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
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That 60% of new mothers in London are.foreign born. Tell me where that is a PROBLEM
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Again, you’re missing his point entirely.
He’s not saying that it’s a problem. He’s saying that if you said that to someone 50 years ago then it would have been labelled as scaremongering.
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It's not 1974 and that's not his point.
posted on 25/6/24
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
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That 60% of new mothers in London are.foreign born. Tell me where that is a PROBLEM
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Again, you’re missing his point entirely.
He’s not saying that it’s a problem. He’s saying that if you said that to someone 50 years ago then it would have been labelled as scaremongering.
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It's not 1974 and that's not his point.
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Good Lord. Ok bro 😎
posted on 25/6/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
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That 60% of new mothers in London are.foreign born. Tell me where that is a PROBLEM
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Again, you’re missing his point entirely.
He’s not saying that it’s a problem. He’s saying that if you said that to someone 50 years ago then it would have been labelled as scaremongering.
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It's not 1974 and that's not his point.
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Good Lord. Ok bro 😎
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Ok good.
posted on 25/6/24
The Conservative party doesn't agree with Pawl.
Support withdrawn from the 2 gamblers.
posted on 25/6/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
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That 60% of new mothers in London are.foreign born. Tell me where that is a PROBLEM
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Again, you’re missing his point entirely.
He’s not saying that it’s a problem. He’s saying that if you said that to someone 50 years ago then it would have been labelled as scaremongering.
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Powell's rivers of blood speech was in 68 so the concept of shock at the amounts of migrants and the threat of being taken over wasn't new in 74 on both the right and left.
I assume Clapfree's interpretation of how people would react in 74 is based on an idealised vision of the country back then despite probably not being alive.
posted on 25/6/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 hours, 43 minutes ago
"Study finds ‘huge rise in working households pushed into poverty’ under Tories
Welcome to the Guardian’s live coverage of the UK General Election with me, Helen Sullivan.
Two reports have revealed the devastating effects of low wages and price increases under Conservative rule on the lives of 900,000 children, the Guardian’s Hazel Sheffield and Larry Elliott report.
Reports have highlighted the link between rising child poverty and slow wage growth under five Conservative governments since 2010 – the slowest growth since the second world war. Both main parties are proposing tough welfare spending plans.
Research by the Trades Union Congress (TUC) found that over the past 14 years, an additional 1,350 children a week in households with at least one working parent had been dragged into poverty.
Paul Nowak, the general secretary of the TUC, said: “No child in Britain should be growing up below the breadline. But under the Conservatives we have seen a huge rise in working households being pushed into poverty.”
If only the proles would work a bit harder and give up Netflix then they would be fine.
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All worth it if they can stop the boats.
posted on 25/6/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
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That 60% of new mothers in London are.foreign born. Tell me where that is a PROBLEM
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Again, you’re missing his point entirely.
He’s not saying that it’s a problem. He’s saying that if you said that to someone 50 years ago then it would have been labelled as scaremongering.
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Powell's rivers of blood speech was in 68 so the concept of shock at the amounts of migrants and the threat of being taken over wasn't new in 74 on both the right and left.
I assume Clapfree's interpretation of how people would react in 74 is based on an idealised vision of the country back then despite probably not being alive.
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Sure. I wasn’t saying that clapfree was right nor that it was wrong but Hector just completely misunderstood his point. Wilfully, no doubt
posted on 25/6/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
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That 60% of new mothers in London are.foreign born. Tell me where that is a PROBLEM
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Again, you’re missing his point entirely.
He’s not saying that it’s a problem. He’s saying that if you said that to someone 50 years ago then it would have been labelled as scaremongering.
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Powell's rivers of blood speech was in 68 so the concept of shock at the amounts of migrants and the threat of being taken over wasn't new in 74 on both the right and left.
I assume Clapfree's interpretation of how people would react in 74 is based on an idealised vision of the country back then despite probably not being alive.
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Sure. I wasn’t saying that clapfree was right nor that it was wrong but Hector just completely misunderstood his point. Wilfully, no doubt
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Blah blah blah.
posted on 25/6/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
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That 60% of new mothers in London are.foreign born. Tell me where that is a PROBLEM
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Again, you’re missing his point entirely.
He’s not saying that it’s a problem. He’s saying that if you said that to someone 50 years ago then it would have been labelled as scaremongering.
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It would have been a statement of fact, not scaremongering.
Back then they were perfecting international and immigration law, opening up the world for our governments and corporates to exploit labour and natural resources across the world. We wanted it as free and as easy to access as possible.
We should have stayed in our own countries the last few hundred years and then we wouldn't be having this problem.
posted on 25/6/24
My foreign born mother gave birth 3 times 50+ years ago not a peep from anyone, nobody cared.
posted on 25/6/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've a foreign mother, what's wrong with foreign mothers? I guess the fact she's white and Christian makee her more acceptable.
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You’re missing his point entirely.
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That 60% of new mothers in London are.foreign born. Tell me where that is a PROBLEM
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Again, you’re missing his point entirely.
He’s not saying that it’s a problem. He’s saying that if you said that to someone 50 years ago then it would have been labelled as scaremongering.
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Powell's rivers of blood speech was in 68 so the concept of shock at the amounts of migrants and the threat of being taken over wasn't new in 74 on both the right and left.
I assume Clapfree's interpretation of how people would react in 74 is based on an idealised vision of the country back then despite probably not being alive.
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Sure. I wasn’t saying that clapfree was right nor that it was wrong but Hector just completely misunderstood his point. Wilfully, no doubt
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Its not the first time Clapfree has made barbed comments about foreign women giving birth in this country. I don't believe you're niave to ignore the obvious associated meaning of his comment.
posted on 25/6/24
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted less than a minute ago
My foreign born mother gave birth 3 times 50+ years ago not a peep from anyone, nobody cared.
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Decades old leaked USSR/Russian secret documents detail a plan to defeat the west by using the west's diversity to provoke culture wars and internal division, because the military option was certain defeat.
I have to say they're doing a brilliant job. People say the Cold War ended but it didn't end for Russia and they might come out tops on the end as we continue to devour ourselves from within.
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