posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
"Although... its is sad to hear pub landlords bleating about the consequence of this proposal that could drive their core customers away, who are those (men usually) who regularly use their pub every day to have 4 or 5 or more pints every session just because they can smoke outside every 20 mins, who actually keep their businesses going and open."
Where did you pluck this shiite from?
Do non smokers drink less than 4 or 5 pints?
Banning smoking in beer gardens is being proposed for health reasons and costs to the NHS. The same associated costs to the NHS and public resources because of drinking are ignored though. I don't see dozens of police deployed every Fri/Sat night because pesky smokers have had one too many ciggies and fallen over/got into a fight/chucked up inside a taxi/assaulted a police officer or emergency worker/got into a car under the influence getting into an accident injuring/killing themselves or innocent bystanders or committed a sexual offence.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm one of those men 🙋♂️
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Used to be me, can't afford to do both now.
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The cost of cigs is what now, about 15 quid isn't it.
That's crazy. Also a pint is 5-6 quid now too
If its a lovely day I would be tempted to go to a beer garden however I can get a case of beer from sainburys for 12-15 quid and have a lovely garden so why bother unless its a social thing.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm one of those men 🙋♂️
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Used to be me, can't afford to do both now.
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The cost of cigs is what now, about 15 quid isn't it.
That's crazy. Also a pint is 5-6 quid now too
If its a lovely day I would be tempted to go to a beer garden however I can get a case of beer from sainburys for 12-15 quid and have a lovely garden so why bother unless its a social thing.
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Sad state of affairs.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
Always has been a strong, anti-alcohol lobby.
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There really hasn’t.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dundee_in_the_1922_general_election
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 18 seconds ago
"Although... its is sad to hear pub landlords bleating about the consequence of this proposal that could drive their core customers away, who are those (men usually) who regularly use their pub every day to have 4 or 5 or more pints every session just because they can smoke outside every 20 mins, who actually keep their businesses going and open."
Where did you pluck this shiite from?
Do non smokers drink less than 4 or 5 pints?
Banning smoking in beer gardens is being proposed for health reasons and costs to the NHS. The same associated costs to the NHS and public resources because of drinking are ignored though. I don't see dozens of police deployed every Fri/Sat night because pesky smokers have had one too many ciggies and fallen over/got into a fight/chucked up inside a taxi/assaulted a police officer or emergency worker/got into a car under the influence getting into an accident injuring/killing themselves or innocent bystanders or committed a sexual offence.
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on the BBC ITN Radio and TV news bulletins yesterday for starters. Jeremy Vine on Radio 2....
Bleating is a good word to descibe what they said
LOL
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
"Although... its is sad to hear pub landlords bleating about the consequence of this proposal that could drive their core customers away, who are those (men usually) who regularly use their pub every day to have 4 or 5 or more pints every session just because they can smoke outside every 20 mins, who actually keep their businesses going and open."
Where did you pluck this shiite from?
Do non smokers drink less than 4 or 5 pints?
Banning smoking in beer gardens is being proposed for health reasons and costs to the NHS. The same associated costs to the NHS and public resources because of drinking are ignored though. I don't see dozens of police deployed every Fri/Sat night because pesky smokers have had one too many ciggies and fallen over/got into a fight/chucked up inside a taxi/assaulted a police officer or emergency worker/got into a car under the influence getting into an accident injuring/killing themselves or innocent bystanders or committed a sexual offence.
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If they were really concerned about the effects of smoking and the burden it puts on the NHS they would ban it.
We all know why they aren't doing that
This purposed legislation really just seems a bit pointless and will hit pubs hard
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
"Although... its is sad to hear pub landlords bleating about the consequence of this proposal that could drive their core customers away, who are those (men usually) who regularly use their pub every day to have 4 or 5 or more pints every session just because they can smoke outside every 20 mins, who actually keep their businesses going and open."
Where did you pluck this shiite from?
Do non smokers drink less than 4 or 5 pints?
Banning smoking in beer gardens is being proposed for health reasons and costs to the NHS. The same associated costs to the NHS and public resources because of drinking are ignored though. I don't see dozens of police deployed every Fri/Sat night because pesky smokers have had one too many ciggies and fallen over/got into a fight/chucked up inside a taxi/assaulted a police officer or emergency worker/got into a car under the influence getting into an accident injuring/killing themselves or innocent bystanders or committed a sexual offence.
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If they were really concerned about the effects of smoking and the burden it puts on the NHS they would ban it.
We all know why they aren't doing that
This purposed legislation really just seems a bit pointless and will hit pubs hard
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Its the most middle classed of proposals.
Don't want anything irritating their Pimms or Aperol.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
This purposed legislation really just seems a bit pointless and will hit pubs hard
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Yes it would. I dont know of many people who object to pub patrons smoking outside in beer gardens. As long as they dont make a mess on the tables.
However I think that having to pay up to £10 for a pint of lager and rising, depending where you live, will shut pubs down quicker than continuing to allow people to smoke in beer gardens.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted less than a minute ago
This purposed legislation really just seems a bit pointless and will hit pubs hard
___
Yes it would. I dont know of many people who object to pub patrons smoking outside in beer gardens. As long as they dont make a mess on the tables.
However I think that having to pay up to £10 for a pint of lager and rising, depending where you live, will shut pubs down quicker than continuing to allow people to smoke in beer gardens.
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well yes agree but have both and pubs will certainly be closing by the day.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
"Although... its is sad to hear pub landlords bleating about the consequence of this proposal that could drive their core customers away, who are those (men usually) who regularly use their pub every day to have 4 or 5 or more pints every session just because they can smoke outside every 20 mins, who actually keep their businesses going and open."
Where did you pluck this shiite from?
Do non smokers drink less than 4 or 5 pints?
Banning smoking in beer gardens is being proposed for health reasons and costs to the NHS. The same associated costs to the NHS and public resources because of drinking are ignored though. I don't see dozens of police deployed every Fri/Sat night because pesky smokers have had one too many ciggies and fallen over/got into a fight/chucked up inside a taxi/assaulted a police officer or emergency worker/got into a car under the influence getting into an accident injuring/killing themselves or innocent bystanders or committed a sexual offence.
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If they were really concerned about the effects of smoking and the burden it puts on the NHS they would ban it.
We all know why they aren't doing that
This purposed legislation really just seems a bit pointless and will hit pubs hard
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Its the most middle classed of proposals.
Don't want anything irritating their Pimms or Aperol.
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Really those type love a cig with there drinks.
I thinks its more the younger generation 18-30 from my experience.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
I can understand banning smoking in beer gardens because it is annoying being sat outside on a nice day only to have the table next to you blowing smoke in your face.
Night clubs however is daft as I don't see the issue with the current smoking areas.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
"Although... its is sad to hear pub landlords bleating about the consequence of this proposal that could drive their core customers away, who are those (men usually) who regularly use their pub every day to have 4 or 5 or more pints every session just because they can smoke outside every 20 mins, who actually keep their businesses going and open."
Where did you pluck this shiite from?
Do non smokers drink less than 4 or 5 pints?
Banning smoking in beer gardens is being proposed for health reasons and costs to the NHS. The same associated costs to the NHS and public resources because of drinking are ignored though. I don't see dozens of police deployed every Fri/Sat night because pesky smokers have had one too many ciggies and fallen over/got into a fight/chucked up inside a taxi/assaulted a police officer or emergency worker/got into a car under the influence getting into an accident injuring/killing themselves or innocent bystanders or committed a sexual offence.
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If they were really concerned about the effects of smoking and the burden it puts on the NHS they would ban it.
We all know why they aren't doing that
This purposed legislation really just seems a bit pointless and will hit pubs hard
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its the most middle classed of proposals.
Don't want anything irritating their Pimms or Aperol.
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Really those type love a cig with there drinks.
I thinks its more the younger generation 18-30 from my experience.
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I've never had anyone complain to me in a beer garden
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
I can understand banning smoking in beer gardens because it is annoying being sat outside on a nice day only to have the table next to you blowing smoke in your face.
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Yes, there is that too. Especially if you are with children and /or eating a meal provided by the pub. And many pubs move the tables closer together to get more covers in each session when it's nice weather.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
"Although... its is sad to hear pub landlords bleating about the consequence of this proposal that could drive their core customers away, who are those (men usually) who regularly use their pub every day to have 4 or 5 or more pints every session just because they can smoke outside every 20 mins, who actually keep their businesses going and open."
Where did you pluck this shiite from?
Do non smokers drink less than 4 or 5 pints?
Banning smoking in beer gardens is being proposed for health reasons and costs to the NHS. The same associated costs to the NHS and public resources because of drinking are ignored though. I don't see dozens of police deployed every Fri/Sat night because pesky smokers have had one too many ciggies and fallen over/got into a fight/chucked up inside a taxi/assaulted a police officer or emergency worker/got into a car under the influence getting into an accident injuring/killing themselves or innocent bystanders or committed a sexual offence.
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If they were really concerned about the effects of smoking and the burden it puts on the NHS they would ban it.
We all know why they aren't doing that
This purposed legislation really just seems a bit pointless and will hit pubs hard
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its the most middle classed of proposals.
Don't want anything irritating their Pimms or Aperol.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really those type love a cig with there drinks.
I thinks its more the younger generation 18-30 from my experience.
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I've never had anyone complain to me in a beer garden
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me neither, tables are normally spread out far enough so it doesn't effect others.
Seems pointless to me.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
Always has been a strong, anti-alcohol lobby.
———
There really hasn’t.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dundee_in_the_1922_general_election
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Doesn’t seem like a ‘strong’ lobby when it’s the only time an MP was elected on prohibition.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
I can understand banning smoking in beer gardens because it is annoying being sat outside on a nice day only to have the table next to you blowing smoke in your face.
Night clubs however is daft as I don't see the issue with the current smoking areas.
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Blowing smoke in your face from the table next door
I get more annoyed when enjoying a quiet pint and a ciggie in the beer garden is interrupted by parents who let their kids treat the place like a free childminders/soft play area or those who can't handle their ale.
Each to their own.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
Where do you lot live?
There is either a moderate breeze of a gale force wind blowing through the beer garden at my local.
More chance of being injured by flying branches than second hand smoke
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
"Although... its is sad to hear pub landlords bleating about the consequence of this proposal that could drive their core customers away, who are those (men usually) who regularly use their pub every day to have 4 or 5 or more pints every session just because they can smoke outside every 20 mins, who actually keep their businesses going and open."
Where did you pluck this shiite from?
Do non smokers drink less than 4 or 5 pints?
Banning smoking in beer gardens is being proposed for health reasons and costs to the NHS. The same associated costs to the NHS and public resources because of drinking are ignored though. I don't see dozens of police deployed every Fri/Sat night because pesky smokers have had one too many ciggies and fallen over/got into a fight/chucked up inside a taxi/assaulted a police officer or emergency worker/got into a car under the influence getting into an accident injuring/killing themselves or innocent bystanders or committed a sexual offence.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If they were really concerned about the effects of smoking and the burden it puts on the NHS they would ban it.
We all know why they aren't doing that
This purposed legislation really just seems a bit pointless and will hit pubs hard
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its the most middle classed of proposals.
Don't want anything irritating their Pimms or Aperol.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really those type love a cig with there drinks.
I thinks its more the younger generation 18-30 from my experience.
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I've never had anyone complain to me in a beer garden
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I’ll complain if you’re feeling left out mate
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
I can understand banning smoking in beer gardens because it is annoying being sat outside on a nice day only to have the table next to you blowing smoke in your face.
Night clubs however is daft as I don't see the issue with the current smoking areas.
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Blowing smoke in your face from the table next door
I get more annoyed when enjoying a quiet pint and a ciggie in the beer garden is interrupted by parents who let their kids treat the place like a free childminders/soft play area or those who can't handle their ale.
Each to their own.
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Both situations are annoying to me personally.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
Don’t smoke myself (unless it’s weed) but I’ve no problem with anyone smoking in a beer garden
As someone alluded above kids being let run wild is more annoying
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
"Although... its is sad to hear pub landlords bleating about the consequence of this proposal that could drive their core customers away, who are those (men usually) who regularly use their pub every day to have 4 or 5 or more pints every session just because they can smoke outside every 20 mins, who actually keep their businesses going and open."
Where did you pluck this shiite from?
Do non smokers drink less than 4 or 5 pints?
Banning smoking in beer gardens is being proposed for health reasons and costs to the NHS. The same associated costs to the NHS and public resources because of drinking are ignored though. I don't see dozens of police deployed every Fri/Sat night because pesky smokers have had one too many ciggies and fallen over/got into a fight/chucked up inside a taxi/assaulted a police officer or emergency worker/got into a car under the influence getting into an accident injuring/killing themselves or innocent bystanders or committed a sexual offence.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If they were really concerned about the effects of smoking and the burden it puts on the NHS they would ban it.
We all know why they aren't doing that
This purposed legislation really just seems a bit pointless and will hit pubs hard
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its the most middle classed of proposals.
Don't want anything irritating their Pimms or Aperol.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really those type love a cig with there drinks.
I thinks its more the younger generation 18-30 from my experience.
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I've never had anyone complain to me in a beer garden
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I’ve had far more non smokers asking me for a faaaag than complain that I’m smoking in the beer garden (nobody has ever complained as most people are diiiiickheads about people smoking outside).
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/what-to-do-if-you-see-a-smoker-in-a-beer-garden-an-emergency-guide-20240830250533?fbclid=IwY2xjawE-jbNleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHQ6H18KR-dP3M2Bd83yILfG7m-g4-xVlpVUogahvbP1VO2XN4jidnoty9w_aem_L-iBMYcEIaOMNJzj5iH8yQ
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
Gonna be a backlash to the smoking ban
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
I seriously think labour are doing there best to not get elected again
The heating payment and this cig thing will manage to fack off about a good 30% of the population
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
Always has been a strong, anti-alcohol lobby.
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There really hasn’t.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dundee_in_the_1922_general_election
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Doesn’t seem like a ‘strong’ lobby when it’s the only time an MP was elected on prohibition.
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Kinda why I posted it, 1922.
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posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
"Although... its is sad to hear pub landlords bleating about the consequence of this proposal that could drive their core customers away, who are those (men usually) who regularly use their pub every day to have 4 or 5 or more pints every session just because they can smoke outside every 20 mins, who actually keep their businesses going and open."
Where did you pluck this shiite from?
Do non smokers drink less than 4 or 5 pints?
Banning smoking in beer gardens is being proposed for health reasons and costs to the NHS. The same associated costs to the NHS and public resources because of drinking are ignored though. I don't see dozens of police deployed every Fri/Sat night because pesky smokers have had one too many ciggies and fallen over/got into a fight/chucked up inside a taxi/assaulted a police officer or emergency worker/got into a car under the influence getting into an accident injuring/killing themselves or innocent bystanders or committed a sexual offence.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm one of those men 🙋♂️
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Used to be me, can't afford to do both now.
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The cost of cigs is what now, about 15 quid isn't it.
That's crazy. Also a pint is 5-6 quid now too
If its a lovely day I would be tempted to go to a beer garden however I can get a case of beer from sainburys for 12-15 quid and have a lovely garden so why bother unless its a social thing.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm one of those men 🙋♂️
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Used to be me, can't afford to do both now.
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The cost of cigs is what now, about 15 quid isn't it.
That's crazy. Also a pint is 5-6 quid now too
If its a lovely day I would be tempted to go to a beer garden however I can get a case of beer from sainburys for 12-15 quid and have a lovely garden so why bother unless its a social thing.
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Sad state of affairs.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
Always has been a strong, anti-alcohol lobby.
———
There really hasn’t.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dundee_in_the_1922_general_election
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 18 seconds ago
"Although... its is sad to hear pub landlords bleating about the consequence of this proposal that could drive their core customers away, who are those (men usually) who regularly use their pub every day to have 4 or 5 or more pints every session just because they can smoke outside every 20 mins, who actually keep their businesses going and open."
Where did you pluck this shiite from?
Do non smokers drink less than 4 or 5 pints?
Banning smoking in beer gardens is being proposed for health reasons and costs to the NHS. The same associated costs to the NHS and public resources because of drinking are ignored though. I don't see dozens of police deployed every Fri/Sat night because pesky smokers have had one too many ciggies and fallen over/got into a fight/chucked up inside a taxi/assaulted a police officer or emergency worker/got into a car under the influence getting into an accident injuring/killing themselves or innocent bystanders or committed a sexual offence.
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on the BBC ITN Radio and TV news bulletins yesterday for starters. Jeremy Vine on Radio 2....
Bleating is a good word to descibe what they said
LOL
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
"Although... its is sad to hear pub landlords bleating about the consequence of this proposal that could drive their core customers away, who are those (men usually) who regularly use their pub every day to have 4 or 5 or more pints every session just because they can smoke outside every 20 mins, who actually keep their businesses going and open."
Where did you pluck this shiite from?
Do non smokers drink less than 4 or 5 pints?
Banning smoking in beer gardens is being proposed for health reasons and costs to the NHS. The same associated costs to the NHS and public resources because of drinking are ignored though. I don't see dozens of police deployed every Fri/Sat night because pesky smokers have had one too many ciggies and fallen over/got into a fight/chucked up inside a taxi/assaulted a police officer or emergency worker/got into a car under the influence getting into an accident injuring/killing themselves or innocent bystanders or committed a sexual offence.
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If they were really concerned about the effects of smoking and the burden it puts on the NHS they would ban it.
We all know why they aren't doing that
This purposed legislation really just seems a bit pointless and will hit pubs hard
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
"Although... its is sad to hear pub landlords bleating about the consequence of this proposal that could drive their core customers away, who are those (men usually) who regularly use their pub every day to have 4 or 5 or more pints every session just because they can smoke outside every 20 mins, who actually keep their businesses going and open."
Where did you pluck this shiite from?
Do non smokers drink less than 4 or 5 pints?
Banning smoking in beer gardens is being proposed for health reasons and costs to the NHS. The same associated costs to the NHS and public resources because of drinking are ignored though. I don't see dozens of police deployed every Fri/Sat night because pesky smokers have had one too many ciggies and fallen over/got into a fight/chucked up inside a taxi/assaulted a police officer or emergency worker/got into a car under the influence getting into an accident injuring/killing themselves or innocent bystanders or committed a sexual offence.
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If they were really concerned about the effects of smoking and the burden it puts on the NHS they would ban it.
We all know why they aren't doing that
This purposed legislation really just seems a bit pointless and will hit pubs hard
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its the most middle classed of proposals.
Don't want anything irritating their Pimms or Aperol.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
This purposed legislation really just seems a bit pointless and will hit pubs hard
___
Yes it would. I dont know of many people who object to pub patrons smoking outside in beer gardens. As long as they dont make a mess on the tables.
However I think that having to pay up to £10 for a pint of lager and rising, depending where you live, will shut pubs down quicker than continuing to allow people to smoke in beer gardens.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted less than a minute ago
This purposed legislation really just seems a bit pointless and will hit pubs hard
___
Yes it would. I dont know of many people who object to pub patrons smoking outside in beer gardens. As long as they dont make a mess on the tables.
However I think that having to pay up to £10 for a pint of lager and rising, depending where you live, will shut pubs down quicker than continuing to allow people to smoke in beer gardens.
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well yes agree but have both and pubs will certainly be closing by the day.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
"Although... its is sad to hear pub landlords bleating about the consequence of this proposal that could drive their core customers away, who are those (men usually) who regularly use their pub every day to have 4 or 5 or more pints every session just because they can smoke outside every 20 mins, who actually keep their businesses going and open."
Where did you pluck this shiite from?
Do non smokers drink less than 4 or 5 pints?
Banning smoking in beer gardens is being proposed for health reasons and costs to the NHS. The same associated costs to the NHS and public resources because of drinking are ignored though. I don't see dozens of police deployed every Fri/Sat night because pesky smokers have had one too many ciggies and fallen over/got into a fight/chucked up inside a taxi/assaulted a police officer or emergency worker/got into a car under the influence getting into an accident injuring/killing themselves or innocent bystanders or committed a sexual offence.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If they were really concerned about the effects of smoking and the burden it puts on the NHS they would ban it.
We all know why they aren't doing that
This purposed legislation really just seems a bit pointless and will hit pubs hard
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its the most middle classed of proposals.
Don't want anything irritating their Pimms or Aperol.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really those type love a cig with there drinks.
I thinks its more the younger generation 18-30 from my experience.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
I can understand banning smoking in beer gardens because it is annoying being sat outside on a nice day only to have the table next to you blowing smoke in your face.
Night clubs however is daft as I don't see the issue with the current smoking areas.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
"Although... its is sad to hear pub landlords bleating about the consequence of this proposal that could drive their core customers away, who are those (men usually) who regularly use their pub every day to have 4 or 5 or more pints every session just because they can smoke outside every 20 mins, who actually keep their businesses going and open."
Where did you pluck this shiite from?
Do non smokers drink less than 4 or 5 pints?
Banning smoking in beer gardens is being proposed for health reasons and costs to the NHS. The same associated costs to the NHS and public resources because of drinking are ignored though. I don't see dozens of police deployed every Fri/Sat night because pesky smokers have had one too many ciggies and fallen over/got into a fight/chucked up inside a taxi/assaulted a police officer or emergency worker/got into a car under the influence getting into an accident injuring/killing themselves or innocent bystanders or committed a sexual offence.
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If they were really concerned about the effects of smoking and the burden it puts on the NHS they would ban it.
We all know why they aren't doing that
This purposed legislation really just seems a bit pointless and will hit pubs hard
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Its the most middle classed of proposals.
Don't want anything irritating their Pimms or Aperol.
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Really those type love a cig with there drinks.
I thinks its more the younger generation 18-30 from my experience.
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I've never had anyone complain to me in a beer garden
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
I can understand banning smoking in beer gardens because it is annoying being sat outside on a nice day only to have the table next to you blowing smoke in your face.
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Yes, there is that too. Especially if you are with children and /or eating a meal provided by the pub. And many pubs move the tables closer together to get more covers in each session when it's nice weather.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
"Although... its is sad to hear pub landlords bleating about the consequence of this proposal that could drive their core customers away, who are those (men usually) who regularly use their pub every day to have 4 or 5 or more pints every session just because they can smoke outside every 20 mins, who actually keep their businesses going and open."
Where did you pluck this shiite from?
Do non smokers drink less than 4 or 5 pints?
Banning smoking in beer gardens is being proposed for health reasons and costs to the NHS. The same associated costs to the NHS and public resources because of drinking are ignored though. I don't see dozens of police deployed every Fri/Sat night because pesky smokers have had one too many ciggies and fallen over/got into a fight/chucked up inside a taxi/assaulted a police officer or emergency worker/got into a car under the influence getting into an accident injuring/killing themselves or innocent bystanders or committed a sexual offence.
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If they were really concerned about the effects of smoking and the burden it puts on the NHS they would ban it.
We all know why they aren't doing that
This purposed legislation really just seems a bit pointless and will hit pubs hard
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Its the most middle classed of proposals.
Don't want anything irritating their Pimms or Aperol.
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Really those type love a cig with there drinks.
I thinks its more the younger generation 18-30 from my experience.
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I've never had anyone complain to me in a beer garden
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me neither, tables are normally spread out far enough so it doesn't effect others.
Seems pointless to me.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
Always has been a strong, anti-alcohol lobby.
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There really hasn’t.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dundee_in_the_1922_general_election
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Doesn’t seem like a ‘strong’ lobby when it’s the only time an MP was elected on prohibition.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
I can understand banning smoking in beer gardens because it is annoying being sat outside on a nice day only to have the table next to you blowing smoke in your face.
Night clubs however is daft as I don't see the issue with the current smoking areas.
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Blowing smoke in your face from the table next door
I get more annoyed when enjoying a quiet pint and a ciggie in the beer garden is interrupted by parents who let their kids treat the place like a free childminders/soft play area or those who can't handle their ale.
Each to their own.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
Where do you lot live?
There is either a moderate breeze of a gale force wind blowing through the beer garden at my local.
More chance of being injured by flying branches than second hand smoke
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
"Although... its is sad to hear pub landlords bleating about the consequence of this proposal that could drive their core customers away, who are those (men usually) who regularly use their pub every day to have 4 or 5 or more pints every session just because they can smoke outside every 20 mins, who actually keep their businesses going and open."
Where did you pluck this shiite from?
Do non smokers drink less than 4 or 5 pints?
Banning smoking in beer gardens is being proposed for health reasons and costs to the NHS. The same associated costs to the NHS and public resources because of drinking are ignored though. I don't see dozens of police deployed every Fri/Sat night because pesky smokers have had one too many ciggies and fallen over/got into a fight/chucked up inside a taxi/assaulted a police officer or emergency worker/got into a car under the influence getting into an accident injuring/killing themselves or innocent bystanders or committed a sexual offence.
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If they were really concerned about the effects of smoking and the burden it puts on the NHS they would ban it.
We all know why they aren't doing that
This purposed legislation really just seems a bit pointless and will hit pubs hard
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Its the most middle classed of proposals.
Don't want anything irritating their Pimms or Aperol.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really those type love a cig with there drinks.
I thinks its more the younger generation 18-30 from my experience.
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I've never had anyone complain to me in a beer garden
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I’ll complain if you’re feeling left out mate
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
I can understand banning smoking in beer gardens because it is annoying being sat outside on a nice day only to have the table next to you blowing smoke in your face.
Night clubs however is daft as I don't see the issue with the current smoking areas.
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Blowing smoke in your face from the table next door
I get more annoyed when enjoying a quiet pint and a ciggie in the beer garden is interrupted by parents who let their kids treat the place like a free childminders/soft play area or those who can't handle their ale.
Each to their own.
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Both situations are annoying to me personally.
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
Don’t smoke myself (unless it’s weed) but I’ve no problem with anyone smoking in a beer garden
As someone alluded above kids being let run wild is more annoying
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Pranks ‘THE DADDY’ (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
"Although... its is sad to hear pub landlords bleating about the consequence of this proposal that could drive their core customers away, who are those (men usually) who regularly use their pub every day to have 4 or 5 or more pints every session just because they can smoke outside every 20 mins, who actually keep their businesses going and open."
Where did you pluck this shiite from?
Do non smokers drink less than 4 or 5 pints?
Banning smoking in beer gardens is being proposed for health reasons and costs to the NHS. The same associated costs to the NHS and public resources because of drinking are ignored though. I don't see dozens of police deployed every Fri/Sat night because pesky smokers have had one too many ciggies and fallen over/got into a fight/chucked up inside a taxi/assaulted a police officer or emergency worker/got into a car under the influence getting into an accident injuring/killing themselves or innocent bystanders or committed a sexual offence.
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If they were really concerned about the effects of smoking and the burden it puts on the NHS they would ban it.
We all know why they aren't doing that
This purposed legislation really just seems a bit pointless and will hit pubs hard
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its the most middle classed of proposals.
Don't want anything irritating their Pimms or Aperol.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really those type love a cig with there drinks.
I thinks its more the younger generation 18-30 from my experience.
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I've never had anyone complain to me in a beer garden
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I’ve had far more non smokers asking me for a faaaag than complain that I’m smoking in the beer garden (nobody has ever complained as most people are diiiiickheads about people smoking outside).
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/what-to-do-if-you-see-a-smoker-in-a-beer-garden-an-emergency-guide-20240830250533?fbclid=IwY2xjawE-jbNleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHQ6H18KR-dP3M2Bd83yILfG7m-g4-xVlpVUogahvbP1VO2XN4jidnoty9w_aem_L-iBMYcEIaOMNJzj5iH8yQ
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
Gonna be a backlash to the smoking ban
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
I seriously think labour are doing there best to not get elected again
The heating payment and this cig thing will manage to fack off about a good 30% of the population
posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
Always has been a strong, anti-alcohol lobby.
———
There really hasn’t.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dundee_in_the_1922_general_election
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Doesn’t seem like a ‘strong’ lobby when it’s the only time an MP was elected on prohibition.
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Kinda why I posted it, 1922.
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