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"What right do smokers as a minority group have to pollute public space for non smokers might be a more appropriate question."
You mean outdoor spaces built to accommodate smokers following the smoking ban?
A single smoker contributes more in tax revenue then yourself given the cost of a packet of ciggies/tobacco is mostly tax. Tax revenue from smoking, just under £10bn pa, cost to the NHS pa, £2.6bn.
Are non smokers going to make up the £7.4bn pa shortfall?
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No. If there are specific areas for smokers then that's fine by me.
No idea why again you want to mention my tax revenue compared to smokers though. There is no comparison, but neither is there a comparison with our relative health costs either.
No idea if one balances out the other to be honest but over lifetimes I suspect the health costs are more than the revenue gained.
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You.mean specific areas created for smokers like the pub beer gardens that sprung up following the ban.
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If there are specific areas in beer gardens away from the general are for customers then fine. I believe this potential move is to stop open beer gardens and the like being used by smokers.
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They were created to accommodate smokers. Now non smokers want to co-opt that space for themselves. A bit selfish no?
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If that is what is being mooted, then yes it is. Again, I've no problem with bespoke areas for smokers.
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Bespoke areas such as beer gardens.
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No. That's not what I said. I've made it perfectly clear what I mean but if you wish to carry on with the same mantra, you already have my response.
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Why were beer gardens popularised? To accommodate smokers. Non smokers have an entire pub to indulge in their addictive habit, why should they encroach on the already limited area designated specifically for smokers and their equally addictive habit?
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Beer gardens were popularised to allow social drinkers and their families to be outdoors.
The beer "gardens" I believe you are speaking of are usually grotty back yards of a pub with a couple of barrels and maybe a gnarled old tree that has been previously seen as a nuisance
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No they weren't
Mate your talking out your hoop here. I worked in this industry when the ban came in. Pubs invested in everything from 'grotty back yards' to full on tables, chairs, shelters,faux grass and gas burners to accommodate smokers and not lose their trade, a significant portion of income at the time.
Your argument is as flawed as your smoking outside airports polluting the air comment.
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Hardly
I can't think of a single pub anywhere in my surrounding area where their beer garden was developed to cater for smokers. Not one.
There are pubs who have smoking areas however.
As for airports; been through about 4 different ones in the UK in the last month. Every single one with smokers hanging around entrances and exits where they shouldn't be and practically lighting up the second they start walking out the door.
Your experience may well be different, but it's certainly not mine. And this is what I believe they want to stop.
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I'm taking post ban in 2008. Good for you however most, if not all, city centre pubs I knew built outside spaces they didn't previously have to accommodate smokers.
The airport comment is funny, are airports known for the quality of clean, unpolluted air in the surrounding area? Are they fack But you think 5 seconds of walking past a smoker will be detrimental to your health.
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"What right do smokers as a minority group have to pollute public space for non smokers might be a more appropriate question."
You mean outdoor spaces built to accommodate smokers following the smoking ban?
A single smoker contributes more in tax revenue then yourself given the cost of a packet of ciggies/tobacco is mostly tax. Tax revenue from smoking, just under £10bn pa, cost to the NHS pa, £2.6bn.
Are non smokers going to make up the £7.4bn pa shortfall?
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No. If there are specific areas for smokers then that's fine by me.
No idea why again you want to mention my tax revenue compared to smokers though. There is no comparison, but neither is there a comparison with our relative health costs either.
No idea if one balances out the other to be honest but over lifetimes I suspect the health costs are more than the revenue gained.
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You.mean specific areas created for smokers like the pub beer gardens that sprung up following the ban.
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If there are specific areas in beer gardens away from the general are for customers then fine. I believe this potential move is to stop open beer gardens and the like being used by smokers.
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They were created to accommodate smokers. Now non smokers want to co-opt that space for themselves. A bit selfish no?
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If that is what is being mooted, then yes it is. Again, I've no problem with bespoke areas for smokers.
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Bespoke areas such as beer gardens.
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No. That's not what I said. I've made it perfectly clear what I mean but if you wish to carry on with the same mantra, you already have my response.
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Why were beer gardens popularised? To accommodate smokers. Non smokers have an entire pub to indulge in their addictive habit, why should they encroach on the already limited area designated specifically for smokers and their equally addictive habit?
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Beer gardens were popularised to allow social drinkers and their families to be outdoors.
The beer "gardens" I believe you are speaking of are usually grotty back yards of a pub with a couple of barrels and maybe a gnarled old tree that has been previously seen as a nuisance
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No they weren't
Mate your talking out your hoop here. I worked in this industry when the ban came in. Pubs invested in everything from 'grotty back yards' to full on tables, chairs, shelters,faux grass and gas burners to accommodate smokers and not lose their trade, a significant portion of income at the time.
Your argument is as flawed as your smoking outside airports polluting the air comment.
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Hardly
I can't think of a single pub anywhere in my surrounding area where their beer garden was developed to cater for smokers. Not one.
There are pubs who have smoking areas however.
As for airports; been through about 4 different ones in the UK in the last month. Every single one with smokers hanging around entrances and exits where they shouldn't be and practically lighting up the second they start walking out the door.
Your experience may well be different, but it's certainly not mine. And this is what I believe they want to stop.
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I'm taking post ban in 2008. Good for you however most, if not all, city centre pubs I knew built outside spaces they didn't previously have to accommodate smokers.
The airport comment is funny, are airports known for the quality of clean, unpolluted air in the surrounding area? Are they fackBut you think 5 seconds of walking past a smoker will be detrimental to your health.
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Understood on the city centre locations.
Making poor air quality worse is hardly a reason to allow it to get so no?
Anyways, I think we've done this bit to death and beyond. The proposed "bans" are much wider reaching than these two examples.
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"Beer gardens were popularised to allow social drinkers and their families to be outdoors."
Ban kids from licenced premises, it's a specific place for the consumption of alcohol, nanny state needs to be consistent
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Most pubs make more money from soft drinks and food these days. No way are they going to ban kids.
Pubs are closing down daily. Ban kids and that rate will only increase
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This isn't about the survival of pubs, quite the opposite.
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You want pubs to close down? Or to be simple "drinking shops" (which I quite like the idea of)
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Banning smoking in gardens isn't gonna close pubs down ffs! Tax is doing that just fine on its own.
Nothing more annoying than bored children being ignored by their parents screeching and running about an area specifically set up for adults. Wanna go for drinking with the kids, leave them in the car with a bottle of coke and a bag of crisps whilst you have a pint.
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"Beer gardens were popularised to allow social drinkers and their families to be outdoors."
Ban kids from licenced premises, it's a specific place for the consumption of alcohol, nanny state needs to be consistent
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Most pubs make more money from soft drinks and food these days. No way are they going to ban kids.
Pubs are closing down daily. Ban kids and that rate will only increase
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This isn't about the survival of pubs, quite the opposite.
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If it's health focussed as Ginge alludes to then drinking whilst being responsible for your kids isn't a healthy thing to do. Seen as acceptable in society though for some reason.
I've seen plenty of parents abdicate responsibility for their kids whilst in the pub as if it's a free child minding service. Let them run around disturbing everyone else then get a cob on when told to rein them in.
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"Beer gardens were popularised to allow social drinkers and their families to be outdoors."
Ban kids from licenced premises, it's a specific place for the consumption of alcohol, nanny state needs to be consistent
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Most pubs make more money from soft drinks and food these days. No way are they going to ban kids.
Pubs are closing down daily. Ban kids and that rate will only increase
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This isn't about the survival of pubs, quite the opposite.
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You want pubs to close down? Or to be simple "drinking shops" (which I quite like the idea of)
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Banning smoking in gardens isn't gonna close pubs down ffs! Tax is doing that just fine on its own.
Nothing more annoying than bored children being ignored by their parents screeching and running about an area specifically set up for adults. Wanna go for drinking with the kids, leave them in the car with a bottle of coke and a bag of crisps whilst you have a pint.
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Childhood memories
Bring back prohibition and I’ll be a beer baron like Homer
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Less and less kids are smoking now. Bans do work.
Thing is kids are now on vapes. One of my nieces started on a vape at 12! I don’t get it, but from an environmental POV (batteries and litter) the disposable vapes are awful.
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Vaping gives you new symptons that Cigs didnt cause. Bubble lung. Very nasty.
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Yep, it’s a menace. I just don’t know why you’d take up camping if you didn’t smoke first, but I guess many don’t understand why people would take up smoking either.
They need to ban the disposables either way imo.
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Because they taste like sweets.
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Cherry, cranberry and apple ice is my favourite
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Bring back prohibition and I’ll be a beer baron like Homer
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I was at a little festival earlier in the summer, and some Irish maniac gave me some homemade potcheen.
Never had it before, will never have it again. I honestly went blind for a few seconds.
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Bring back prohibition and I’ll be a beer baron like Homer
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I love that episode.
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Bring back prohibition and I’ll be a beer baron like Homer
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I was at a little festival earlier in the summer, and some Irish maniac gave me some homemade potcheen.
Never had it before, will never have it again. I honestly went blind for a few seconds.
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Bring back prohibition and I’ll be a beer baron like Homer
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I was at a little festival earlier in the summer, and some Irish maniac gave me some homemade potcheen.
Never had it before, will never have it again. I honestly went blind for a few seconds.
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There’s a reason no one invades here anymore
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comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
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Bring back prohibition and I’ll be a beer baron like Homer
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I was at a little festival earlier in the summer, and some Irish maniac gave me some homemade potcheen.
Never had it before, will never have it again. I honestly went blind for a few seconds.
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There’s a reason no one invades here anymore
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Going on some of your links, it depends on what irish
person you talk to.
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Bring back prohibition and I’ll be a beer baron like Homer
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I was at a little festival earlier in the summer, and some Irish maniac gave me some homemade potcheen.
Never had it before, will never have it again. I honestly went blind for a few seconds.
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There’s a reason no one invades here anymore
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Going on some of your links, it depends on what irish
person you talk to.
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Touché
I really hope the altercation Trump had at Arlington blows up into something as big as it could.
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I really hope the altercation Trump had at Arlington blows up into something as big as it could.
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There's a law (or at the very least, rule and regulation) prohibiting what has transpired with Trump and his entourage.
Even if there wasn't such a rule, my compassion, humiliation, and respect to fallen soldiers would stop me from having a photo-op, much less one smiling and having my thumbs up. The guy is creepy as hell.
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"Beer gardens were popularised to allow social drinkers and their families to be outdoors."
Ban kids from licenced premises, it's a specific place for the consumption of alcohol, nanny state needs to be consistent
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This
Close all bars at airports, drunken passengers are much more of a threat than a gaggle of smokers hanging about, 20 metres from a Terminal door
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Close all bars at airports, drunken passengers are much more of a threat than a gaggle of smokers hanging about, 20 metres from a Terminal door
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Agree with this
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I really hope the altercation Trump had at Arlington blows up into something as big as it could.
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"What right do smokers as a minority group have to pollute public space for non smokers might be a more appropriate question."
You mean outdoor spaces built to accommodate smokers following the smoking ban?
A single smoker contributes more in tax revenue then yourself given the cost of a packet of ciggies/tobacco is mostly tax. Tax revenue from smoking, just under £10bn pa, cost to the NHS pa, £2.6bn.
Are non smokers going to make up the £7.4bn pa shortfall?
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No. If there are specific areas for smokers then that's fine by me.
No idea why again you want to mention my tax revenue compared to smokers though. There is no comparison, but neither is there a comparison with our relative health costs either.
No idea if one balances out the other to be honest but over lifetimes I suspect the health costs are more than the revenue gained.
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You.mean specific areas created for smokers like the pub beer gardens that sprung up following the ban.
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If there are specific areas in beer gardens away from the general are for customers then fine. I believe this potential move is to stop open beer gardens and the like being used by smokers.
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They were created to accommodate smokers. Now non smokers want to co-opt that space for themselves. A bit selfish no?
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If that is what is being mooted, then yes it is. Again, I've no problem with bespoke areas for smokers.
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Bespoke areas such as beer gardens.
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No. That's not what I said. I've made it perfectly clear what I mean but if you wish to carry on with the same mantra, you already have my response.
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Why were beer gardens popularised? To accommodate smokers. Non smokers have an entire pub to indulge in their addictive habit, why should they encroach on the already limited area designated specifically for smokers and their equally addictive habit?
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Beer gardens were popularised to allow social drinkers and their families to be outdoors.
The beer "gardens" I believe you are speaking of are usually grotty back yards of a pub with a couple of barrels and maybe a gnarled old tree that has been previously seen as a nuisance
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No they weren't
Mate your talking out your hoop here. I worked in this industry when the ban came in. Pubs invested in everything from 'grotty back yards' to full on tables, chairs, shelters,faux grass and gas burners to accommodate smokers and not lose their trade, a significant portion of income at the time.
Your argument is as flawed as your smoking outside airports polluting the air comment.
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Hardly
I can't think of a single pub anywhere in my surrounding area where their beer garden was developed to cater for smokers. Not one.
There are pubs who have smoking areas however.
As for airports; been through about 4 different ones in the UK in the last month. Every single one with smokers hanging around entrances and exits where they shouldn't be and practically lighting up the second they start walking out the door.
Your experience may well be different, but it's certainly not mine. And this is what I believe they want to stop.
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I'm taking post ban in 2008. Good for you however most, if not all, city centre pubs I knew built outside spaces they didn't previously have to accommodate smokers.
The airport comment is funny, are airports known for the quality of clean, unpolluted air in the surrounding area? Are they fack But you think 5 seconds of walking past a smoker will be detrimental to your health.
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comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted about a minute ago
"What right do smokers as a minority group have to pollute public space for non smokers might be a more appropriate question."
You mean outdoor spaces built to accommodate smokers following the smoking ban?
A single smoker contributes more in tax revenue then yourself given the cost of a packet of ciggies/tobacco is mostly tax. Tax revenue from smoking, just under £10bn pa, cost to the NHS pa, £2.6bn.
Are non smokers going to make up the £7.4bn pa shortfall?
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No. If there are specific areas for smokers then that's fine by me.
No idea why again you want to mention my tax revenue compared to smokers though. There is no comparison, but neither is there a comparison with our relative health costs either.
No idea if one balances out the other to be honest but over lifetimes I suspect the health costs are more than the revenue gained.
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You.mean specific areas created for smokers like the pub beer gardens that sprung up following the ban.
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If there are specific areas in beer gardens away from the general are for customers then fine. I believe this potential move is to stop open beer gardens and the like being used by smokers.
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They were created to accommodate smokers. Now non smokers want to co-opt that space for themselves. A bit selfish no?
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If that is what is being mooted, then yes it is. Again, I've no problem with bespoke areas for smokers.
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Bespoke areas such as beer gardens.
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No. That's not what I said. I've made it perfectly clear what I mean but if you wish to carry on with the same mantra, you already have my response.
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Why were beer gardens popularised? To accommodate smokers. Non smokers have an entire pub to indulge in their addictive habit, why should they encroach on the already limited area designated specifically for smokers and their equally addictive habit?
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Beer gardens were popularised to allow social drinkers and their families to be outdoors.
The beer "gardens" I believe you are speaking of are usually grotty back yards of a pub with a couple of barrels and maybe a gnarled old tree that has been previously seen as a nuisance
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No they weren't
Mate your talking out your hoop here. I worked in this industry when the ban came in. Pubs invested in everything from 'grotty back yards' to full on tables, chairs, shelters,faux grass and gas burners to accommodate smokers and not lose their trade, a significant portion of income at the time.
Your argument is as flawed as your smoking outside airports polluting the air comment.
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Hardly
I can't think of a single pub anywhere in my surrounding area where their beer garden was developed to cater for smokers. Not one.
There are pubs who have smoking areas however.
As for airports; been through about 4 different ones in the UK in the last month. Every single one with smokers hanging around entrances and exits where they shouldn't be and practically lighting up the second they start walking out the door.
Your experience may well be different, but it's certainly not mine. And this is what I believe they want to stop.
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I'm taking post ban in 2008. Good for you however most, if not all, city centre pubs I knew built outside spaces they didn't previously have to accommodate smokers.
The airport comment is funny, are airports known for the quality of clean, unpolluted air in the surrounding area? Are they fackBut you think 5 seconds of walking past a smoker will be detrimental to your health.
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Understood on the city centre locations.
Making poor air quality worse is hardly a reason to allow it to get so no?
Anyways, I think we've done this bit to death and beyond. The proposed "bans" are much wider reaching than these two examples.
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posted 2 minutes ago
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comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 15 seconds ago
"Beer gardens were popularised to allow social drinkers and their families to be outdoors."
Ban kids from licenced premises, it's a specific place for the consumption of alcohol, nanny state needs to be consistent
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Most pubs make more money from soft drinks and food these days. No way are they going to ban kids.
Pubs are closing down daily. Ban kids and that rate will only increase
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This isn't about the survival of pubs, quite the opposite.
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You want pubs to close down? Or to be simple "drinking shops" (which I quite like the idea of)
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Banning smoking in gardens isn't gonna close pubs down ffs! Tax is doing that just fine on its own.
Nothing more annoying than bored children being ignored by their parents screeching and running about an area specifically set up for adults. Wanna go for drinking with the kids, leave them in the car with a bottle of coke and a bag of crisps whilst you have a pint.
posted on 29/8/24
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 15 seconds ago
"Beer gardens were popularised to allow social drinkers and their families to be outdoors."
Ban kids from licenced premises, it's a specific place for the consumption of alcohol, nanny state needs to be consistent
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Most pubs make more money from soft drinks and food these days. No way are they going to ban kids.
Pubs are closing down daily. Ban kids and that rate will only increase
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This isn't about the survival of pubs, quite the opposite.
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If it's health focussed as Ginge alludes to then drinking whilst being responsible for your kids isn't a healthy thing to do. Seen as acceptable in society though for some reason.
I've seen plenty of parents abdicate responsibility for their kids whilst in the pub as if it's a free child minding service. Let them run around disturbing everyone else then get a cob on when told to rein them in.
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 15 seconds ago
"Beer gardens were popularised to allow social drinkers and their families to be outdoors."
Ban kids from licenced premises, it's a specific place for the consumption of alcohol, nanny state needs to be consistent
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Most pubs make more money from soft drinks and food these days. No way are they going to ban kids.
Pubs are closing down daily. Ban kids and that rate will only increase
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This isn't about the survival of pubs, quite the opposite.
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You want pubs to close down? Or to be simple "drinking shops" (which I quite like the idea of)
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Banning smoking in gardens isn't gonna close pubs down ffs! Tax is doing that just fine on its own.
Nothing more annoying than bored children being ignored by their parents screeching and running about an area specifically set up for adults. Wanna go for drinking with the kids, leave them in the car with a bottle of coke and a bag of crisps whilst you have a pint.
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Childhood memories
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posted on 29/8/24
Bring back prohibition and I’ll be a beer baron like Homer
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posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
Less and less kids are smoking now. Bans do work.
Thing is kids are now on vapes. One of my nieces started on a vape at 12! I don’t get it, but from an environmental POV (batteries and litter) the disposable vapes are awful.
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Vaping gives you new symptons that Cigs didnt cause. Bubble lung. Very nasty.
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Yep, it’s a menace. I just don’t know why you’d take up camping if you didn’t smoke first, but I guess many don’t understand why people would take up smoking either.
They need to ban the disposables either way imo.
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Because they taste like sweets.
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Cherry, cranberry and apple ice is my favourite
posted on 29/8/24
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bring back prohibition and I’ll be a beer baron like Homer
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I was at a little festival earlier in the summer, and some Irish maniac gave me some homemade potcheen.
Never had it before, will never have it again. I honestly went blind for a few seconds.
posted on 29/8/24
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 6 minutes ago
Bring back prohibition and I’ll be a beer baron like Homer
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I love that episode.
posted on 29/8/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bring back prohibition and I’ll be a beer baron like Homer
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I was at a little festival earlier in the summer, and some Irish maniac gave me some homemade potcheen.
Never had it before, will never have it again. I honestly went blind for a few seconds.
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posted on 29/8/24
New FOX News polls
Georgia 🟦 Harris 50% 🟥 Trump 48%
Nevada 🟦 Harris 50% 🟥 Trump 48%
Arizona 🟦 Harris 50% 🟥 Trump 49%
North Carolina 🟥 Trump 50% 🟦 Harris 49%
Oh dear
posted on 29/8/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bring back prohibition and I’ll be a beer baron like Homer
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I was at a little festival earlier in the summer, and some Irish maniac gave me some homemade potcheen.
Never had it before, will never have it again. I honestly went blind for a few seconds.
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There’s a reason no one invades here anymore
posted on 29/8/24
Oh Carolina
posted on 29/8/24
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bring back prohibition and I’ll be a beer baron like Homer
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I was at a little festival earlier in the summer, and some Irish maniac gave me some homemade potcheen.
Never had it before, will never have it again. I honestly went blind for a few seconds.
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There’s a reason no one invades here anymore
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Going on some of your links, it depends on what irish
person you talk to.
posted on 29/8/24
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bring back prohibition and I’ll be a beer baron like Homer
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I was at a little festival earlier in the summer, and some Irish maniac gave me some homemade potcheen.
Never had it before, will never have it again. I honestly went blind for a few seconds.
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There’s a reason no one invades here anymore
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Going on some of your links, it depends on what irish
person you talk to.
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Touché
posted on 29/8/24
I really hope the altercation Trump had at Arlington blows up into something as big as it could.
posted on 29/8/24
comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 12 minutes ago
I really hope the altercation Trump had at Arlington blows up into something as big as it could.
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There's a law (or at the very least, rule and regulation) prohibiting what has transpired with Trump and his entourage.
Even if there wasn't such a rule, my compassion, humiliation, and respect to fallen soldiers would stop me from having a photo-op, much less one smiling and having my thumbs up. The guy is creepy as hell.
posted on 29/8/24
* in fact, any grave.
posted on 29/8/24
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 hours, 28 minutes ago
"Beer gardens were popularised to allow social drinkers and their families to be outdoors."
Ban kids from licenced premises, it's a specific place for the consumption of alcohol, nanny state needs to be consistent
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This
posted on 29/8/24
Close all bars at airports, drunken passengers are much more of a threat than a gaggle of smokers hanging about, 20 metres from a Terminal door
posted on 29/8/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 25 minutes ago
Close all bars at airports, drunken passengers are much more of a threat than a gaggle of smokers hanging about, 20 metres from a Terminal door
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Agree with this
posted on 29/8/24
comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
I really hope the altercation Trump had at Arlington blows up into something as big as it could.
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Absolute trainwreck:
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/shows/maddow/blog/rcna168747
posted on 29/8/24
2024 National GE:
Harris 50% (+7)
Trump 43%
.@wearebigvillage, 1,511 LV, 8/23-28
https://x.com/politics_polls/status/1829128113504026984?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
Tears in my eyes
posted on 29/8/24
Israel knows it can commit war crimes with impunity.
That is why it has launched its largest assault on the West Bank since 2002.
We are witnessing the total erasure of Palestine - and our government is shamefully complicit.
End all arms sales to Israel, now.
https://x.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1829122535679504881?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
I mean, he’s not wrong
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