Starmer admits to £20k donation to move into accommodation so that his son can study for his GCSE’s in peace

What’s next I wonder?

It will be billions in dodgy COVID contracts next

If you have a problem with donations in general that's a fair debate

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
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If you have a problem with donations in general that's a fair debate
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I suppose I have a “problem” with those who set themselves up on a pedestal of righteousness who then suddenly recall receiving many thousands of pounds worth of gifts and assistance which he could easily afford himself.

But hey, it’s not exactly headline news is it?

Wait.

It’s headline news in some of the worst and most inaccurate publications in Europe

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
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It’s headline news in some of the worst and most inaccurate publications in Europe
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What you really mean is that it’s in news that you simply don’t like.

Sky News in this case; after an interview with Starmer this morning.

Is that the worst and most inaccurate?

Sky news is pretty awful, to be fair.

It’s shiiiiiiiiiit.

comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
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Sky news is pretty awful, to be fair.
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At times yes.

This is from a face to face interview

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
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It’s shiiiiiiiiiit.
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Sky News or the fact?

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
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It will be billions in dodgy COVID contracts next
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Tories only care about this stuff when they aren’t wearing a blue rosette.

comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
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It will be billions in dodgy COVID contracts next
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Tories only care about this stuff when they aren’t wearing a blue rosette.
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Like all the Tories who abandoned them at the election? Those that are just as disgusted as you are? Those that became sick and tired of the continual corruption?

Or just the ones who benefitted?

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
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If you have a problem with donations in general that's a fair debate
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I suppose I have a “problem” with those who set themselves up on a pedestal of righteousness who then suddenly recall receiving many thousands of pounds worth of gifts and assistance which he could easily afford himself.

But hey, it’s not exactly headline news is it?

Wait.
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I’m not a fan of the donations-based model, at all.

I think the public purse and the capped (at a very low level) and declared donations of individuals, exclusively, should be funding campaigning.

But is “suddenly recall receiving many thousands of pounds worth of gifts” fair?

Is there anything he’s received which wasn’t declared properly? (Honest question - I don’t know the answer.)

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
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It will be billions in dodgy COVID contracts next
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Tories only care about this stuff when they aren’t wearing a blue rosette.
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Like all the Tories who abandoned them at the election? Those that are just as disgusted as you are? Those that became sick and tired of the continual corruption?

Or just the ones who benefitted?
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Not many of these people actually exist.

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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted less than a minute ago
If you have a problem with donations in general that's a fair debate
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I suppose I have a “problem” with those who set themselves up on a pedestal of righteousness who then suddenly recall receiving many thousands of pounds worth of gifts and assistance which he could easily afford himself.

But hey, it’s not exactly headline news is it?

Wait.
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I’m not a fan of the donations-based model, at all.

I think the public purse and the capped (at a very low level) and declared donations of individuals, exclusively, should be funding campaigning.

But is “suddenly recall receiving many thousands of pounds worth of gifts” fair?

Is there anything he’s received which wasn’t declared properly? (Honest question - I don’t know the answer.)
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As it seems, these recent revelations are only recently being declared having been categorised as “didn’t know the rules”, suddenly realised”, were not declared due to “advice” and the like.

Looks like it’s get everything out in the open now as that dal has burst.

Better late that never I suppose.

What I don’t get is this new “rule” where clothing etc is a no no, but higher value ticketed entertaining is ok. We work with many public bodies and figures and it’s stipulated in their contracts they can’t accept anything.

The simple answer is pay for the gift.

comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
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It will be billions in dodgy COVID contracts next
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Tories only care about this stuff when they aren’t wearing a blue rosette.
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Like all the Tories who abandoned them at the election? Those that are just as disgusted as you are? Those that became sick and tired of the continual corruption?

Or just the ones who benefitted?
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Not many of these people actually exist.
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I’ll look forward to your detailed survey report on this

You will be quite surprised as I don’t know any Conservative supporters who is anything other than scathing about these contracts and how they were administered. Not a single one.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g95xIxkL16w

comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g95xIxkL16w
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Couldn’t care less if I tried. Now, back to your evidence based claim.

We’ve only found out the Tories are absolute fvcking scvm bags in the last four years actually. Who knew?

As I look forward to yours on these Tories:

Like all the Tories who abandoned them at the election? Those that are just as disgusted as you are? Those that became sick and tired of the continual corruption?

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
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We’ve only found out the Tories are absolute fvcking scvm bags in the last four years actually. Who knew?
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Which Tories are these exactly?

Just so we know who we are talking about. I’d imagine you like everyone else has colleagues, family, friends and the like who are Conservative supporters.

More than likely you’ll know many from all political parties.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
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We’ve only found out the Tories are absolute fvcking scvm bags in the last four years actually. Who knew?
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Which Tories are these exactly?

Just so we know who we are talking about. I’d imagine you like everyone else has colleagues, family, friends and the like who are Conservative supporters.

More than likely you’ll know many from all political parties.
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Just in case I’ve not been clear previously, I’m of the opinion that all Tories, including anyone who voted for them in the past 20 years are thoroughly awful human beings and the scvm of the earth.

comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted less than a minute ago
As I look forward to yours on these Tories:

Like all the Tories who abandoned them at the election? Those that are just as disgusted as you are? Those that became sick and tired of the continual corruption?
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If you notice I’ve made a distinction on which ones. Yours is quite the opposite.

And in any event it’s rude to answer a point by just revering the point back when you’re floundering. Just acknowledge it’s not all Tories

I don’t need to. I’m pretty content with my claim.

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
We’ve only found out the Tories are absolute fvcking scvm bags in the last four years actually. Who knew?
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Which Tories are these exactly?

Just so we know who we are talking about. I’d imagine you like everyone else has colleagues, family, friends and the like who are Conservative supporters.

More than likely you’ll know many from all political parties.
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Just in case I’ve not been clear previously, I’m of the opinion that all Tories, including anyone who voted for them in the past 20 years are thoroughly awful human beings and the scvm of the earth.
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That then is a pretty pathetic way to think. How more intolerant can anyone be with those that don’t agree with them?

Must be quite boring not being able to debate and argue your beliefs when you’re that intransigent.