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comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
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Even when a police officer is found not guilty by a jury in a court of law, it seems that many are still determined to put the blame on him.

Bit ironic that…..
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Mental gymnastics

Just doesn’t fit with some views of the police is all.

And now the poor sod has a bounty on his head for doing his job
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I’ve not seen a single person say the officer is guilty.

This site is beginning to need a fact checker.
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What facts do you want checking exactly?
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That people are determined to blame the officer, that people were at risk while an unarmed man is boxed in and I could go on.
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Sorry.

Werw you there? Did you have the decision to make? Do you have all these law facts?

No
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lol, what?

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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
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Even when a police officer is found not guilty by a jury in a court of law, it seems that many are still determined to put the blame on him.

Bit ironic that…..
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Mental gymnastics

Just doesn’t fit with some views of the police is all.

And now the poor sod has a bounty on his head for doing his job
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I’ve not seen a single person say the officer is guilty.

This site is beginning to need a fact checker.
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What facts do you want checking exactly?
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That people are determined to blame the officer, that people were at risk while an unarmed man is boxed in and I could go on.
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Sorry.

Werw you there? Did you have the decision to make? Do you have all these law facts?

No
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lol, what?
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Typos

And can’t be rsed revising

Shall we just save our time and cut to the end but where, after being humiliated and shown up for telling porkies, that you turn pretend you were just wummimg.

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
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Shall we just save our time and cut to the end but where, after being humiliated and shown up for telling porkies, that you turn pretend you were just wummimg.
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Aye ok

Sound. Up to much today?

Loads

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Going by his own logic, I’d be amazed if Hector is even qualified to clean toilets.
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Doubt he'd be able to put himself at risk of getting some bleach on his hands, let alone being shot.

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
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comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
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Even when a police officer is found not guilty by a jury in a court of law, it seems that many are still determined to put the blame on him.

Bit ironic that…..
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Mental gymnastics

Just doesn’t fit with some views of the police is all.

And now the poor sod has a bounty on his head for doing his job
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I’ve not seen a single person say the officer is guilty.

This site is beginning to need a fact checker.
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What facts do you want checking exactly?
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That people are determined to blame the officer, that people were at risk while an unarmed man is boxed in and I could go on.
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Maybe I’m reading this wrong but you definitely seem to be blaming the officer…..

Not sure about that Term, what I’ve actually said is what a hard job it is and at no point do I think he should be found guilty of murder or even manslaughter. Is that blaming him? Not in my eyes.

I originally posted because Pael things this shouldn’t have gone to court at all, which after speaking to Naby I’m coming round to as well.

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comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
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But it’s relevant to the point about him being unarmed that was being discussed.

It’s yet to be determined if he carried out his duties in accordance with procedure, the Met are going to do their own inquiry to establish that.
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Cops didn't know he whether he was armed or unarmed, but surely they had to consider that there was a decent chance he could be armed?
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That may be, but it’s a different point to what Robbing was discussing and the use of a vehicle as a weapon.
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Fair enough. I just feel if the cops were aware that the car had been used in crime recently, even a shooting, and the driver also suspected of being a killer by shooting, he could possibly be packing some heat, no?

And he tries to get away and is willing to ram vehicles. He was desperate to get away and who knows what happens when he steps out the car? Will he surrender or come out with a gun? The cops don't know at that time.
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Yeah and I think that’s why the murder charge didn’t wash. We’ll have to wait and see what their internalised investigation shows when it comes to whether he was procedurally justified in his actions, however.

The jury showed how ridiculous the whole thing was by taking three hours to reach a not guilty verdict.

If I was in charge (many would argue I should be) I would make it clear to our armed police officers that they can take out as many vicious gangsters as they like without fear of court or their names being released.

At least that way the tax payer doesn't have to cough up for 30 years of jail expenses.

So basically the untouchables. Cracking idea Pawl and one step closer to the facist state you so clearly desire.

Keep forgetting it’s Barry

comment by Jake Moon (U11781)
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No I had no idea we had an Alex Jones in this country
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I'd differentiate him from Jones insofar as Hall seems to really believe the conspiracy theories he supports.

Jones is just a soulless grifter with zero moral compass prepared to say literally anything he thinks will generate revenue.

The difference between insanity and sociopathy.

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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They didn’t know who he was when he was shot.
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His actions in front of armed police identified him as someone who was happy to take that risk. I don’t think this was some kind of new situation to him.
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Which is fine, but that’s not what people are saying. They’re saying because they found out later that he had a criminal past, it’s no problem that an unarmed man got executed by the state on our streets.

Sorry, but I feel the threshold for death needs to be higher than trying to escape being boxed in.
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They can't be saying that because he wasn't executed.

He was shot dead in self defense, and his character matters in making the judgement it was self defence and not an 'execution'

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
So basically the untouchables. Cracking idea Pawl and one step closer to the facist state you so clearly desire.
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Better than backing the wrong side.

These poor downtrodden Boyz are only defending their territory!!?

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 13 minutes ago
Not sure about that Term, what I’ve actually said is what a hard job it is and at no point do I think he should be found guilty of murder or even manslaughter. Is that blaming him? Not in my eyes.

I originally posted because Pael things this shouldn’t have gone to court at all, which after speaking to Naby I’m coming round to as well.
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I missed all the stuff In between, but I did agree with you that it needed to go to court, because it means all the facts are out there and put out by both sides, considering how sensitive these events are. If it didn’t then loads would be screaming cover up and potentially followed up by unrest.

Just feels to me that there’s a lot of rhetoric that suggests some aren’t happy with the verdict. If that’s not you then fair enough.

If I was in charge (many would argue I should be)
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comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
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comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
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So basically the untouchables. Cracking idea Pawl and one step closer to the facist state you so clearly desire.
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Better than backing the wrong side.

These poor downtrodden Boyz are only defending their territory!!?
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Pawl calling them boys. Interesting.

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comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
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Its been all about ifs and buts,an Audi q8 could be more than possible to ram its way out of that situation,then the police and public would have been in danger of somebody who was not going to stop and could be armed,the means justified ends.
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Escaping the police does not justify a bullet to the head.

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Oh come on, there’s way more to it than that and you know this.

Then why did the jury find him not guilty.
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In response to the threat to life by a boxed in car surrounded by multiple armed cops, shoot the tyres.
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Armed cops get less than half, on average, what a train driver gets. Easy to see why, they don't have any braincells.
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Jeez
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Going by his own logic, I’d be amazed if Hector is even qualified to clean toilets.
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Cutting, hurty words.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you just forgot that cousins was part of this team of geniuses, that they themselves labelled him "the rapist" and didn't challenge him, that another one was called, by a judge, a "serial rapist".
I personally do not trust the police, I want to, but experience and history tells me not to. You be you and ill be me.

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 13 minutes ago
Not sure about that Term, what I’ve actually said is what a hard job it is and at no point do I think he should be found guilty of murder or even manslaughter. Is that blaming him? Not in my eyes.

I originally posted because Pael things this shouldn’t have gone to court at all, which after speaking to Naby I’m coming round to as well.
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I missed all the stuff In between, but I did agree with you that it needed to go to court, because it means all the facts are out there and put out by both sides, considering how sensitive these events are. If it didn’t then loads would be screaming cover up and potentially followed up by unrest.
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I think you have it right Term. Give it the full scrutiny of the law. Let’s not forget this is the Met either btw.

The Home Secretary (Labour) says Firearms officers facing trial over shooting suspects will receive anonymity up to the point of conviction.

Pawl in bits.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1lg54y71r2o

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 28 seconds ago
The Home Secretary (Labour) says Firearms officers facing trial over shooting suspects will receive anonymity up to the point of conviction.

Pawl in bits.
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Why?

In a previous comment I've said that their names shouldn't be revealed.

If a serious wrong'un has been taken out then they shouldn't be on trial but at least this way when they are found not guilty they stay anonymous.

Why?
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Because it’s happening under Labours watch.

Glad you’re coming to the light tho.