comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 24 seconds ago
Ginge
The info is out there if you look for it.
"Budget is the first step for future of NHS, Starmer says
published at 13:36
13:36
Sticking with Starmer and Reeves, who are speaking at a hospital in Coventry, the PM says the ambition is to get the NHS "on its feet" and “truly fit for the future”.
He says the change his government is seeking to implement will "take time", but says the Budget was a "first step" and “down payment” for the future.
Yesterday, the government announced what it described as the biggest hike in NHS funding since 2010 – £22bn extra for the front line and another £3bn for equipment and buildings for the rest of this financial year and the following one. That's against an overall health budget for this year of more than £190bn."
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cp9zrg128get
Don't know what you expect after their first budget less than 6 months in power.
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I expected a government who stated quite clearly that they had fully explainable and costed plans; all fully funded to fix the economy which wouldn’t impact on the “working man” as their manifesto pledge to oust a long standing government to be able to convince the public and the markets at the very least.
They’ve failed spectacularly and are now depending on many slices of good fortune
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Wonder if the info they had changed in any way pre and post election could be a cause of their costed and explainable plans going in the bin?
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Wonder you may well do. A number of things spring to mind here.
They claim they understood everything and had fully costed and funded fixing and building the entire economy. True or false?
They tried to use the winter fuel allowance and the £46bn “black hole” as a stick when in opposition. Now they claim they didn’t know. True or false?
They claimed their plans did not include NI contributions. True or false? And don’t dance on the pinhead of semantics with that one please.
They claimed none of their plans would affect the “working man”. True or false?
They cited the OBR who they claim backed up their £22bn black hole. It didn’t. True or false?
They claimed we’d be better off and show growth within the 5 years. That’s now been dismissed by every financial institution and the markets. True or false?
This budget is a simple tax high, spend and spend and hope for the best of the private market going with them. So far nobody is remotely convinced other than dyed in the wool labour supporters.
As for family farmers…. what a completely hare brained stupid fwck up.
Is there a plan for post Brexit Britain yet?
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 15 minutes ago
Is there a plan for post Brexit Britain yet?
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Yeah blame anything bad on Labour (who are too bloody scared of Brexit to even talk about it)
Haven’t we or are we just not capable of moving on from Brexit? Is this to be the mantra for every failure afterwards?
Like the Labour Party getting into power with a massive majority backed by only 21% of voters who many now wish they hadn’t, it was a majority decision in the face of clear lying; we have to get on with it.
Why not throw in Covid or the fact that we were the fastest growing economy in the G7 and interest rates and gilts were falling until yesterday?
There’s very little celebration going on among the Labour ranks and quite a bit of back peddling since Reeve’s shocked the country. A wee bit of defensive doubling down of course, but certainly no high fiving on a job well done. Hmmmm
Moving on from Brexit? You were just talking about planning and organising, but we voted to leave our biggest trading partner with neither.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 16 minutes ago
Haven’t we or are we just not capable of moving on from Brexit? Is this to be the mantra for every failure afterwards?
Like the Labour Party getting into power with a massive majority backed by only 21% of voters who many now wish they hadn’t, it was a majority decision in the face of clear lying; we have to get on with it.
Why not throw in Covid or the fact that we were the fastest growing economy in the G7 and interest rates and gilts were falling until yesterday?
There’s very little celebration going on among the Labour ranks and quite a bit of back peddling since Reeve’s shocked the country. A wee bit of defensive doubling down of course, but certainly no high fiving on a job well done. Hmmmm
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I think RR must have known the NI raise would be inflationary so upped the living wage to offset it. I can't see how it's going to be overall beneficial to workers.
comment by ProPokerPlayer (U23205)
posted 23 minutes ago
I think RR must have known the NI raise would be inflationary so upped the living wage to offset it. I can't see how it's going to be overall beneficial to workers.
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Of course she did. Didn’t stop her from denying it however.
And here’s the first of the legal challenge from independent schools coming, citing that much loved body the ECHR and the Human Rights Act. This will rumble on.
How is charging VAT to private schools in breach of human rights
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted less than a minute ago
How is charging VAT to private schools in breach of human rights
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No idea. I believe it’s around being seen to be aimed unfairly at children from faith schools, single as schools and those with special needs. That’s what I’m reading anyway.
And how the chief of the IFS is ripping her budget to shreds and intimating the numbers in the middle and later years are deliberately being underplayed to make the sums work where in reality more tax increases will be needed.
Reeves has had enough and cancelled her last media rounds
This is not going well and I fear it will get worse.
“Haven’t we or are we just not capable of moving on from Brexit? Is this to be the mantra for every failure afterwards?
Like the Labour Party getting into power with a massive majority backed by only 21% of voters who many now wish they hadn’t, it was a majority decision in the face of clear lying; we have to get on with it.”
I don’t think Labour getting in has permanently wiped 4% off the country’s GDP though, has it?
comment by It’s time for some Lancashire hotPote, R... (U17054)
posted less than a minute ago
“Haven’t we or are we just not capable of moving on from Brexit? Is this to be the mantra for every failure afterwards?
Like the Labour Party getting into power with a massive majority backed by only 21% of voters who many now wish they hadn’t, it was a majority decision in the face of clear lying; we have to get on with it.”
I don’t think Labour getting in has permanently wiped 4% off the country’s GDP though, has it?
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My point was more about it being the default answer to everything when faced with something nobody wants to acknowledge.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted less than a minute ago
How is charging VAT to private schools in breach of human rights
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No idea. I believe it’s around being seen to be aimed unfairly at children from faith schools, single as schools and those with special needs. That’s what I’m reading anyway.
And how the chief of the IFS is ripping her budget to shreds and intimating the numbers in the middle and later years are deliberately being underplayed to make the sums work where in reality more tax increases will be needed.
Reeves has had enough and cancelled her last media rounds
This is not going well and I fear it will get worse.
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Whereas the IMF as re backing it to boost growth
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/oct/31/reeves-tax-rises-will-boost-growth-sustainably-says-imf
Calm down ginge, it's a day old and you're hooting at anything that suits your worldview
Well firstly the IMF are hardly the harbingers of fiscal forecasting
Secondly; if I’m hooting (I am to be fair ) at things that suit my worldview then I’m in the right place
Sterling falls by the largest %age in 18 months ☹️
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 54 minutes ago
Well firstly the IMF are hardly the harbingers of fiscal forecasting
Secondly; if I’m hooting (I am to be fair) at things that suit my worldview then I’m in the right place
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So which financial experts did you say rejected Labour's 5 year prediction on the economy?
If the IMF are not "harbingers of fiscal forecasting" then I'm curious which harbingers of fiscal forecasting you rely on.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 35 minutes ago
Sterling falls by the largest %age in 18 months ☹️
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Oh no. Whatever will we do?
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 35 minutes ago
Sterling falls by the largest %age in 18 months ☹️
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Oh no. Whatever will we do?
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So the fall was greater 18 months ago?
Whose fault was that?
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 35 minutes ago
Sterling falls by the largest %age in 18 months ☹️
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Oh no. Whatever will we do?
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So the fall was greater 18 months ago?
Whose fault was that?
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A genius
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 35 minutes ago
Sterling falls by the largest %age in 18 months ☹️
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Oh no. Whatever will we do?
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So the fall was greater 18 months ago?
Whose fault was that?
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Truss I’d imagine
I’m sure there have been many others but that doesn’t negate the market reaction this time around
New York
New Mexico
California
Interested to see just how much trump narrows the margins from 2020, seems like the support he has this time in those states is unbelievable !
Nevada should go red too
This win is going to be big, crazy big. 100m votes is potentially going to happen which is insane
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
Well firstly the IMF are hardly the harbingers of fiscal forecasting
Secondly; if I’m hooting (I am to be fair) at things that suit my worldview then I’m in the right place
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But the IFS are?
Do you see what I’m saying about you latching onto anything that suits you?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/10/31/us-presidential-election-donald-trump-kamala-harris-clinton/
Fantastic article, absolutely bang on
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
Well firstly the IMF are hardly the harbingers of fiscal forecasting
Secondly; if I’m hooting (I am to be fair) at things that suit my worldview then I’m in the right place
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But the IFS are?
Do you see what I’m saying about you latching onto anything that suits you?
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That applies to anyone on here. You included. And on that note I bid you good night. Golf tomorrow
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posted on 31/10/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 24 seconds ago
Ginge
The info is out there if you look for it.
"Budget is the first step for future of NHS, Starmer says
published at 13:36
13:36
Sticking with Starmer and Reeves, who are speaking at a hospital in Coventry, the PM says the ambition is to get the NHS "on its feet" and “truly fit for the future”.
He says the change his government is seeking to implement will "take time", but says the Budget was a "first step" and “down payment” for the future.
Yesterday, the government announced what it described as the biggest hike in NHS funding since 2010 – £22bn extra for the front line and another £3bn for equipment and buildings for the rest of this financial year and the following one. That's against an overall health budget for this year of more than £190bn."
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cp9zrg128get
Don't know what you expect after their first budget less than 6 months in power.
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I expected a government who stated quite clearly that they had fully explainable and costed plans; all fully funded to fix the economy which wouldn’t impact on the “working man” as their manifesto pledge to oust a long standing government to be able to convince the public and the markets at the very least.
They’ve failed spectacularly and are now depending on many slices of good fortune
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wonder if the info they had changed in any way pre and post election could be a cause of their costed and explainable plans going in the bin?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wonder you may well do. A number of things spring to mind here.
They claim they understood everything and had fully costed and funded fixing and building the entire economy. True or false?
They tried to use the winter fuel allowance and the £46bn “black hole” as a stick when in opposition. Now they claim they didn’t know. True or false?
They claimed their plans did not include NI contributions. True or false? And don’t dance on the pinhead of semantics with that one please.
They claimed none of their plans would affect the “working man”. True or false?
They cited the OBR who they claim backed up their £22bn black hole. It didn’t. True or false?
They claimed we’d be better off and show growth within the 5 years. That’s now been dismissed by every financial institution and the markets. True or false?
This budget is a simple tax high, spend and spend and hope for the best of the private market going with them. So far nobody is remotely convinced other than dyed in the wool labour supporters.
As for family farmers…. what a completely hare brained stupid fwck up.
posted on 31/10/24
Is there a plan for post Brexit Britain yet?
posted on 31/10/24
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 15 minutes ago
Is there a plan for post Brexit Britain yet?
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Yeah blame anything bad on Labour (who are too bloody scared of Brexit to even talk about it)
posted on 31/10/24
Haven’t we or are we just not capable of moving on from Brexit? Is this to be the mantra for every failure afterwards?
Like the Labour Party getting into power with a massive majority backed by only 21% of voters who many now wish they hadn’t, it was a majority decision in the face of clear lying; we have to get on with it.
Why not throw in Covid or the fact that we were the fastest growing economy in the G7 and interest rates and gilts were falling until yesterday?
There’s very little celebration going on among the Labour ranks and quite a bit of back peddling since Reeve’s shocked the country. A wee bit of defensive doubling down of course, but certainly no high fiving on a job well done. Hmmmm
posted on 31/10/24
Looool
posted on 31/10/24
Moving on from Brexit? You were just talking about planning and organising, but we voted to leave our biggest trading partner with neither.
posted on 31/10/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 16 minutes ago
Haven’t we or are we just not capable of moving on from Brexit? Is this to be the mantra for every failure afterwards?
Like the Labour Party getting into power with a massive majority backed by only 21% of voters who many now wish they hadn’t, it was a majority decision in the face of clear lying; we have to get on with it.
Why not throw in Covid or the fact that we were the fastest growing economy in the G7 and interest rates and gilts were falling until yesterday?
There’s very little celebration going on among the Labour ranks and quite a bit of back peddling since Reeve’s shocked the country. A wee bit of defensive doubling down of course, but certainly no high fiving on a job well done. Hmmmm
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posted on 31/10/24
I think RR must have known the NI raise would be inflationary so upped the living wage to offset it. I can't see how it's going to be overall beneficial to workers.
posted on 31/10/24
comment by ProPokerPlayer (U23205)
posted 23 minutes ago
I think RR must have known the NI raise would be inflationary so upped the living wage to offset it. I can't see how it's going to be overall beneficial to workers.
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Of course she did. Didn’t stop her from denying it however.
And here’s the first of the legal challenge from independent schools coming, citing that much loved body the ECHR and the Human Rights Act. This will rumble on.
posted on 31/10/24
How is charging VAT to private schools in breach of human rights
posted on 31/10/24
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted less than a minute ago
How is charging VAT to private schools in breach of human rights
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No idea. I believe it’s around being seen to be aimed unfairly at children from faith schools, single as schools and those with special needs. That’s what I’m reading anyway.
And how the chief of the IFS is ripping her budget to shreds and intimating the numbers in the middle and later years are deliberately being underplayed to make the sums work where in reality more tax increases will be needed.
Reeves has had enough and cancelled her last media rounds
This is not going well and I fear it will get worse.
posted on 31/10/24
“Haven’t we or are we just not capable of moving on from Brexit? Is this to be the mantra for every failure afterwards?
Like the Labour Party getting into power with a massive majority backed by only 21% of voters who many now wish they hadn’t, it was a majority decision in the face of clear lying; we have to get on with it.”
I don’t think Labour getting in has permanently wiped 4% off the country’s GDP though, has it?
posted on 31/10/24
comment by It’s time for some Lancashire hotPote, R... (U17054)
posted less than a minute ago
“Haven’t we or are we just not capable of moving on from Brexit? Is this to be the mantra for every failure afterwards?
Like the Labour Party getting into power with a massive majority backed by only 21% of voters who many now wish they hadn’t, it was a majority decision in the face of clear lying; we have to get on with it.”
I don’t think Labour getting in has permanently wiped 4% off the country’s GDP though, has it?
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My point was more about it being the default answer to everything when faced with something nobody wants to acknowledge.
posted on 31/10/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted less than a minute ago
How is charging VAT to private schools in breach of human rights
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No idea. I believe it’s around being seen to be aimed unfairly at children from faith schools, single as schools and those with special needs. That’s what I’m reading anyway.
And how the chief of the IFS is ripping her budget to shreds and intimating the numbers in the middle and later years are deliberately being underplayed to make the sums work where in reality more tax increases will be needed.
Reeves has had enough and cancelled her last media rounds
This is not going well and I fear it will get worse.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whereas the IMF as re backing it to boost growth
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/oct/31/reeves-tax-rises-will-boost-growth-sustainably-says-imf
Calm down ginge, it's a day old and you're hooting at anything that suits your worldview
posted on 31/10/24
Well firstly the IMF are hardly the harbingers of fiscal forecasting
Secondly; if I’m hooting (I am to be fair ) at things that suit my worldview then I’m in the right place
posted on 31/10/24
Sterling falls by the largest %age in 18 months ☹️
posted on 31/10/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 54 minutes ago
Well firstly the IMF are hardly the harbingers of fiscal forecasting
Secondly; if I’m hooting (I am to be fair) at things that suit my worldview then I’m in the right place
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So which financial experts did you say rejected Labour's 5 year prediction on the economy?
If the IMF are not "harbingers of fiscal forecasting" then I'm curious which harbingers of fiscal forecasting you rely on.
posted on 31/10/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 35 minutes ago
Sterling falls by the largest %age in 18 months ☹️
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Oh no. Whatever will we do?
posted on 31/10/24
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 35 minutes ago
Sterling falls by the largest %age in 18 months ☹️
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Oh no. Whatever will we do?
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So the fall was greater 18 months ago?
Whose fault was that?
posted on 31/10/24
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 35 minutes ago
Sterling falls by the largest %age in 18 months ☹️
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Oh no. Whatever will we do?
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So the fall was greater 18 months ago?
Whose fault was that?
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A genius
posted on 31/10/24
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 35 minutes ago
Sterling falls by the largest %age in 18 months ☹️
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Oh no. Whatever will we do?
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So the fall was greater 18 months ago?
Whose fault was that?
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Truss I’d imagine
I’m sure there have been many others but that doesn’t negate the market reaction this time around
posted on 31/10/24
New York
New Mexico
California
Interested to see just how much trump narrows the margins from 2020, seems like the support he has this time in those states is unbelievable !
Nevada should go red too
This win is going to be big, crazy big. 100m votes is potentially going to happen which is insane
posted on 31/10/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
Well firstly the IMF are hardly the harbingers of fiscal forecasting
Secondly; if I’m hooting (I am to be fair) at things that suit my worldview then I’m in the right place
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But the IFS are?
Do you see what I’m saying about you latching onto anything that suits you?
posted on 31/10/24
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/10/31/us-presidential-election-donald-trump-kamala-harris-clinton/
Fantastic article, absolutely bang on
posted on 31/10/24
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
Well firstly the IMF are hardly the harbingers of fiscal forecasting
Secondly; if I’m hooting (I am to be fair) at things that suit my worldview then I’m in the right place
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But the IFS are?
Do you see what I’m saying about you latching onto anything that suits you?
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That applies to anyone on here. You included. And on that note I bid you good night. Golf tomorrow
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