comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
the waist and the waistband but have the same the cutoff point for being low. Ie below the top of the hip/

Now what does the Queensberry rule state for a low blow.
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No, because the waistband can be worn high. The Queensberry rules do not mention waistband as the line for low blows for this very reason and, as said, refs make it clear when the waistband is worn high that the belt line is below the waistband.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
the waist and the waistband but have the same the cutoff point for being low. Ie below the top of the hip/

Now what does the Queensberry rule state for a low blow.
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No, because the waistband can be worn high. The Queensberry rules do not mention waistband as the line for low blows for this very reason and, as said, refs make it clear when the waistband is worn high that the belt line is below the waistband.
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the waistband in a medical sense is the area between the top of the hip and the bottom of the ribcage.

Eddie Hearn: "Any punch below the navel is an illegal blow". Goes on to say about the Dubois shot "it's nothing but an illegal blow".

https://youtu.be/Vr2HX-kH76g?si=wHW1Fcbe2xlCZCrq

comment by Superbettino (U6486)
posted 3 minutes ago
Eddie Hearn: "Any punch below the navel is an illegal blow". Goes on to say about the Dubois shot "it's nothing but an illegal blow".

https://youtu.be/Vr2HX-kH76g?si=wHW1Fcbe2xlCZCrq


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the guy who will be and has been co promoting Usyk said that did he?

3.31 Points will be awarded:-
For “attack” – direct clean hits with the knuckle part of the glove of either hand to any part of the front or side of the head or body above the belt. The “belt” is defined as an imaginary line drawn across the body from the top of the hip bones. For “defence” – guarding, slipping, ducking or getting away from an attack. Where contestants are otherwise equal the majority of points will be given to the one who does most leading off or displays the better style.

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Superbettino (U6486)
posted 3 minutes ago
Eddie Hearn: "Any punch below the navel is an illegal blow". Goes on to say about the Dubois shot "it's nothing but an illegal blow".

https://youtu.be/Vr2HX-kH76g?si=wHW1Fcbe2xlCZCrq


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the guy who will be and has been co promoting Usyk said that did he?
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Yes the biggest promoter in boxing said it on record. Words he'll have to live by for all of his fighters.

Thought the rule "clearly states the waist"
When in fact it as I stated, an imaginary line across the top of the hips

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 seconds ago
Thought the rule "clearly states the waist"
When in fact it as I stated, an imaginary line across the top of the hips
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which is the strat of the waistband .

thats actually a more broken down version of the rule by the BBBoC Queensberry rule just says the waist.

Why are you posting "broken down" versions rather than the easy to find actual rule? The Queensberry rule does not say the waist, it says below the belt.

comment by Superbettino (U6486)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Superbettino (U6486)
posted 3 minutes ago
Eddie Hearn: "Any punch below the navel is an illegal blow". Goes on to say about the Dubois shot "it's nothing but an illegal blow".

https://youtu.be/Vr2HX-kH76g?si=wHW1Fcbe2xlCZCrq


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the guy who will be and has been co promoting Usyk said that did he?
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Yes the biggest promoter in boxing said it on record. Words he'll have to live by for all of his fighters.
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yeah Hearn wouldnt have an agenda or lie to us not Eddie Hearn.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted less than a minute ago
Why are you posting "broken down" versions rather than the easy to find actual rule? The Queensberry rule does not say the waist, it says below the belt.
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cos it seems it needs broken down more. since people think its the navel as the cut off point

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
3.31 Points will be awarded:-
For “attack” – direct clean hits with the knuckle part of the glove of either hand to any part of the front or side of the head or body above the belt. The “belt” is defined as an imaginary line drawn across the body from the top of the hip bones. For “defence” – guarding, slipping, ducking or getting away from an attack. Where contestants are otherwise equal the majority of points will be given to the one who does most leading off or displays the better style.
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Thanks for proving us right that the navel is the line. The line from the top of the hip bone is the navel:

https://myhealth.alberta.ca/Health/pages/conditions.aspx?hwid=zm6241#:~:text=How%20to%20measure%20waist%20circumference,level%20of%20your%20belly%20button.

comment by Superbettino (U6486)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
3.31 Points will be awarded:-
For “attack” – direct clean hits with the knuckle part of the glove of either hand to any part of the front or side of the head or body above the belt. The “belt” is defined as an imaginary line drawn across the body from the top of the hip bones. For “defence” – guarding, slipping, ducking or getting away from an attack. Where contestants are otherwise equal the majority of points will be given to the one who does most leading off or displays the better style.
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Thanks for proving us right that the navel is the line. The line from the top of the hip bone is the navel:

https://myhealth.alberta.ca/Health/pages/conditions.aspx?hwid=zm6241#:~:text=How%20to%20measure%20waist%20circumference,level%20of%20your%20belly%20button.

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lol thats a stretch .. mine isnt ... my navel is above my hip bone.

the rule says above the hip bone not the navel

"The belt is defined as an imaginary line drawn across the body from the TOP of the hip bones"

The top of the hip bone aligns with the navel.

comment by Superbettino (U6486)
posted less than a minute ago
"The belt is defined as an imaginary line drawn across the body from the TOP of the hip bones"

The top of the hip bone aligns with the navel.
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according to you....mine doesnt and loads dont either.

the rtules state the waist or the "belt" the belt is defined as the space between the top of the hip and the bottom of the ribcage. My navel is a good 2 inches above my hips. the rules state its above the toip of the hip, navel isnt mentioned as this will differ beween people, some people navel will be above the hip, some will be below and some will be line. Hence why we use one constant as a refernce and in this example the reference is the top of the hip

Your belly button is two inches above the line from the very top of your hip bone ?? My condolences for your deformity.

comment by Superbettino (U6486)
posted 1 minute ago
Your belly button is two inches above the line from the very top of your hip bone ?? My condolences for your deformity.
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there is plenty of fighters this applies to.
Many fighters navel can be seen above the hip protectors !! your ignorance is showing here

Take it up with Carl Froch and Tony Bellew who have both definitively stated that anything below the navel is an illegal shot. You obviously know better than two of the best and most well known British fighters of the modern era.

comment by Superbettino (U6486)
posted about a minute ago
Take it up with Carl Froch and Tony Bellew who have both definitively stated that anything below the navel is an illegal shot. You obviously know better than two of the best and most well known British fighters of the modern era.
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i dont need neither are the voice of reason or the voice of the rules, the rules are pretty clear.

If they are saying that the navel is the low blow cut off point then yes when it comes to low blows then I do know more it seems.

Of course that assuming that they are being honest, i mena neither has an agenda at all !

Everyone has an agenda according to you. Frank Warren couldn't possibly have an agenda though I assume.

comment by Superbettino (U6486)
posted 6 minutes ago
Everyone has an agenda according to you. Frank Warren couldn't possibly have an agenda though I assume.
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lol do you actually watch boxing ?!??! are you saying that Bellew is unbiased when he is at shows ?!?! he is prob the biggest happy clapper in UK boxing that wee on screen and during fights !! are you really a=saying he aint ? He is a Hearn tool.

And like I said Froch has himself says he trolls a bit now for hits on his channel his very own words !

Frank obv has an agenda, he will want his fighter to look as good as possible and make as much noise as possible cos its his job to promote his fighter as best as he can.

cant believe you honestlyu suggesting that a fighters promoters wouldnt be biased towards their own fighter.

I doubt Frank will appeal if he does its a case of taking the financial hit to further promote Dubois. Even if the ruling is judged that the shot is legal the appeal will be still be thrown out. You cant appeal the knockdown to change the outcome of the fight and Warren will know this.

Wait so if Carl Froch or Tony Bellew give their view on what they think is a low blow then they must be showing bias or an agenda towards someone or something ?? Do you realise how paranoid that sounds lol ?

Both Froch and Bellew are now accountable to that opinion when they talk about any fighter in the future and in the internet era they'll get torn apart if they ever come out with anything that contradicts what they've both said about the low blow rule.