comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted less than a minute ago
The Sky sports poll had an even split on either Fury or Usyk winning on points btw
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I ignored that poll and their scores.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 28 seconds ago
Holyfield at his best beats Usyk.
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Nope
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Yeah

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Yep

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Ali - (U1192)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Ali - (U1192)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted about a minute ago
comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Ali - (U1192)
posted less than a minute ago
Clearly a lot of fury bumlickers in here. People thinking he's the same fighter than he was a few years back
fkin ell boi
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You’re an absolute cant. Im an Usyk fan, not a Fury one but I still know you’re talking shiiiiit
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That’s a bad take Ali... mans just giving respect to Fury.
But nobody begrudges Usyk,
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No it's just common sense but people are easily swayed / fickle because he put up an "ok" performance against a guy closing in on 40 now.
This fury is not the same fighter that he used to be. Not even close.
AJ would batter him but unfortunately we aren't going to see that fight any time soon.
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AJ is more concerned about his celebrity status and has been overrated his whole career. Fury would beat him comfortably.
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Agree to disagree
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When he turned pro everyone was going on about him being one of the greatest ever. He’s not even close to being the best British fighter.

That’s the very definition of overrated
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I'm talking present day mate.
Fury is not as good as he was, it's a simple fact. AJ is much improved recently. Fury got rattled by a few hits from Usyk who has nowhere near the power of AJ.
Fury cannot move as quick as he used to.
Anyway. Agree to disagree

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 5 seconds ago
Now people gonna do pound for pound All-Time , Usyk doesn’t beat Evander Holyfield though...
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Usyk is better than Holyfield easily.
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I think Usyk would beat Holyfield.
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Yup. Usyk is just too good. He'd have beaten Lewis too I reckon.
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I think Lewis would beat him.

comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 28 seconds ago
Holyfield at his best beats Usyk.
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Nope
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Yeah

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Yep
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Tremendous debate.

comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 5 seconds ago
Now people gonna do pound for pound All-Time , Usyk doesn’t beat Evander Holyfield though...
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Usyk is better than Holyfield easily.
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I think Usyk would beat Holyfield.
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Yup. Usyk is just too good. He'd have beaten Lewis too I reckon.
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I think Lewis would beat him.
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Yeah.

It looked comfortable for Fury at one stage but typical Usyk, comes into the fight more in the latter half. He just keeps getting better as the fights go on.

comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted less than a minute ago
The rematch is contractual - so I think it will go ahead
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Plenty of examples where people step aside for a wedge of money if there's a bigger money fight to be made.
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What’s the bigger money fight than these two?
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Domestically Fury v AJ even without belts.

Is the rematch for all the belts?

comment by Ali - (U1192)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Ali - (U1192)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Ali - (U1192)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted about a minute ago
comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Ali - (U1192)
posted less than a minute ago
Clearly a lot of fury bumlickers in here. People thinking he's the same fighter than he was a few years back
fkin ell boi
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You’re an absolute cant. Im an Usyk fan, not a Fury one but I still know you’re talking shiiiiit
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That’s a bad take Ali... mans just giving respect to Fury.
But nobody begrudges Usyk,
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No it's just common sense but people are easily swayed / fickle because he put up an "ok" performance against a guy closing in on 40 now.
This fury is not the same fighter that he used to be. Not even close.
AJ would batter him but unfortunately we aren't going to see that fight any time soon.
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AJ is more concerned about his celebrity status and has been overrated his whole career. Fury would beat him comfortably.
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Agree to disagree
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When he turned pro everyone was going on about him being one of the greatest ever. He’s not even close to being the best British fighter.

That’s the very definition of overrated
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I'm talking present day mate.
Fury is not as good as he was, it's a simple fact. AJ is much improved recently. Fury got rattled by a few hits from Usyk who has nowhere near the power of AJ.
Fury cannot move as quick as he used to.
Anyway. Agree to disagree
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The way Fury fought tonight he would comfortably beat AJ

comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 5 seconds ago
Now people gonna do pound for pound All-Time , Usyk doesn’t beat Evander Holyfield though...
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Usyk is better than Holyfield easily.
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I think Usyk would beat Holyfield.
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Yup. Usyk is just too good. He'd have beaten Lewis too I reckon.
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I think Lewis would beat him.
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I think it would be a lot closer with Lewis. I guess it could go either way.

comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted less than a minute ago
The rematch is contractual - so I think it will go ahead
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Plenty of examples where people step aside for a wedge of money if there's a bigger money fight to be made.
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What’s the bigger money fight than these two?
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Domestically Fury v AJ even without belts.

Is the rematch for all the belts?
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Yes

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 5 seconds ago
Now people gonna do pound for pound All-Time , Usyk doesn’t beat Evander Holyfield though...
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Usyk is better than Holyfield easily.
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I think Usyk would beat Holyfield.
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Yup. Usyk is just too good. He'd have beaten Lewis too I reckon.
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Not sure I agree with that.

Lewis still seems to be underrated which surprises me.

Would he beat prime Mike Tyson?

I don’t think so

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
Would he beat prime Mike Tyson?

I don’t think so
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He wouldn't beat prime Lewis.

comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 5 seconds ago
Now people gonna do pound for pound All-Time , Usyk doesn’t beat Evander Holyfield though...
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Usyk is better than Holyfield easily.
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I think Usyk would beat Holyfield.
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Yup. Usyk is just too good. He'd have beaten Lewis too I reckon.
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Not sure I agree with that.

Lewis still seems to be underrated which surprises me.
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I rate Lewis highly. Was definitely the best of his generation. But Usyk is an amazing fighter. Lewis is a better HW cause of his longevity and resume in it, but Usyk is the better boxer overall.

Let’s remember Fury had Usyk looking very ordinary in those middle rounds. He was hurt and looked groggy. Usyk isn’t invincible. Fury will be kicking himself that he got sloppy afterwards and of course credit to Usyk for taking full advantage

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
Would he beat prime Mike Tyson?

I don’t think so
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Hmm… the moment Tyson fought somebody that wasn’t afraid or over the hill, he got knocked out, and he never recovered.
Evander Holyfield was different gravy…. And I see him beating Usyk,

comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
Would he beat prime Mike Tyson?

I don’t think so
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Hmm… the moment Tyson fought somebody that wasn’t afraid or over the hill, he got knocked out, and he never recovered.
Evander Holyfield was different gravy…. And I see him beating Usyk,
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None of them beat Ali

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 minutes ago
Don’t think he’d beat prime Mike Tyson though. He wouldn’t get to dictate like he needs to.
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Prime Mike Tyson was as good as it gets for me

A pure wrecking machine

comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 29 seconds ago
Let’s remember Fury had Usyk looking very ordinary in those middle rounds. He was hurt and looked groggy. Usyk isn’t invincible. Fury will be kicking himself that he got sloppy afterwards and of course credit to Usyk for taking full advantage
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We've been told Usyk has looked ordinary against Chisora, Dubois, even Bellew in the earlier rounds but he always goes up another gear and takes control.

comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
Would he beat prime Mike Tyson?

I don’t think so
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Hmm… the moment Tyson fought somebody that wasn’t afraid or over the hill, he got knocked out, and he never recovered.
Evander Holyfield was different gravy…. And I see him beating Usyk,
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None of them beat Ali
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Hmm,,, does Usyk beat Fraiser or Foreman?

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 29 seconds ago
Let’s remember Fury had Usyk looking very ordinary in those middle rounds. He was hurt and looked groggy. Usyk isn’t invincible. Fury will be kicking himself that he got sloppy afterwards and of course credit to Usyk for taking full advantage
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We've been told Usyk has looked ordinary against Chisora, Dubois, even Bellew in the earlier rounds but he always goes up another gear and takes control.
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He does - but tonight Fury let him off the hook. The other boxers Usyk fought weren’t capable of beating him - I do think Fury is the only one who potentially can. Tonight he will be kicking himself. I still think Usyk is better than Fury but not hugely

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -AKA The Shōguv (U12889)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 5 seconds ago
Now people gonna do pound for pound All-Time , Usyk doesn’t beat Evander Holyfield though...
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Usyk is better than Holyfield easily.
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I think Usyk would beat Holyfield.
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Yup. Usyk is just too good. He'd have beaten Lewis too I reckon.
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Not sure I agree with that.

Lewis still seems to be underrated which surprises me.
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I rate Lewis highly. Was definitely the best of his generation. But Usyk is an amazing fighter. Lewis is a better HW cause of his longevity and resume in it, but Usyk is the better boxer overall.
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People tend to judge Lewis on the later stages of his career when he wasn't actually at his prime.

A motivated, prime Lewis would beat Usyk

comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
Would he beat prime Mike Tyson?

I don’t think so
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Hmm… the moment Tyson fought somebody that wasn’t afraid or over the hill, he got knocked out, and he never recovered.
Evander Holyfield was different gravy…. And I see him beating Usyk,
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None of them beat Ali
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Hmm,,, does Usyk beat Fraiser or Foreman?
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He doesn’t beat Frasier. When Frasiers left connects, it finishes anyone. He beat a prime Ali ffs.

Foreman is interesting - really no idea how that would go

comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
Would he beat prime Mike Tyson?

I don’t think so
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Hmm… the moment Tyson fought somebody that wasn’t afraid or over the hill, he got knocked out, and he never recovered.
Evander Holyfield was different gravy…. And I see him beating Usyk,
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None of them beat Ali
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Usyk wouldn't beat the early version of Ali.

I think the later version of Ali would be too cute for him too.

But they would be great fights.