comment by HHHBF, AVB Still > Manchester (U6522)
Oh well shame, makes up for the dodgy one you got in the league!
With Nani - Im not too sure what the rule is about getting onside? I.e. Surely Nani has got himself back onside or does it have to be before the ball is kicked?
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By the letter of the law some other player needs to touch the ball to start the next phase of play and Nani can rejoin the game.
Chelsea fans watch your 2.1 win at the bridge again then come back and complain.
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Are you talking about Macheda´s handball goal that day ?
If so then I agree that we have every right to complain about that game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoGd0GUZYNg
Blimey, he's a right little whinger. Probably annoyed he played Wenger tactics at OT and lost.
Chin up 'AVB'.
No he's talking about Martin Atkinsons' dismal performance at the bridge, where he gave a you a freekick (which wasn't), then Drogba pulled one of our defenders to the ground and you scored an offside goal all in the space of 30 seconds!
comment by (U8713) posted 6 minutes ago
maybe the 2 offside goals
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The first goal was offside, but the 2nd has not been proved to be offside, it is extremely marginal & repeated TV replays do not show he was definitely offside. For the penalty there was clear contact so they can't really complain about that. Whereas on the other hand the ref failed to send off Cole & could well have given United a penalty for that challenge.
So basically this is unbelievable arrogance on the part of Chelsea to complain to the refs chief about 1 mistake from the officials that went in their favour.
No he's talking about Martin Atkinsons' dismal performance at the bridge, where he gave a you a freekick (which wasn't), then Drogba pulled one of our defenders to the ground and you scored an offside goal all in the space of 30 seconds!
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He couldn't have been as that game ended 1-0, but w/e
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The Cole one was NOT a penalty, the ball was already out of play.
No he's talking about Martin Atkinsons' dismal performance at the bridge, where he gave a you a freekick (which wasn't), then Drogba pulled one of our defenders to the ground and you scored an offside goal all in the space of 30 seconds!
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So you´re denying that Macheda´s handball happened that day ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoGd0GUZYNg
comment by TheRevoltutionWillNotBeTelevised (U1152)
posted 12 seconds ago
The Cole one was NOT a penalty, the ball was already out of play.
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He still should've been sent off though, dirty little rodent.
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comment by SuperbFrank (U6486)
When did i say that?
What i am saying is all your Chelsea fans are starting to sound like Scousers, all this constant moaning.
All teams get iffy decisions, we've been on the rough end of a fair few against Chelsea in recent years. So they're evening themselves out
Deal with it and stop your insessant whinging!
I'm sure if AVB knew how all these Man Utd fans felt about the competence of the linesmen, he'd promptly retract his complaint . He's right to complain through the proper channels, which he has done. Not like the sulking and moaning Fergie usually does to anyone with a microphone. Anyone wonder why big teams (Chelsea included) are so dominant at home? Because refereeing in the PL is hopelessly biased and it gets swept under the rug time and again, because it's not as interesting at 50 million pound striker's missing chances or Rooney's hair looking better than ever.
Lets all stop whinning and have a good laugh. 1m20sec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1mHiQNuhWVo
Also love the OP's "...or is he turning into Kenny Daglish" quote
Cos Ferguson has never brought a referees integrity into question. No no, he wouldn't dream of doing that
All teams get iffy decisions, we've been on the rough end of a fair few against Chelsea in recent years. So they're evening themselves out
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Name them then if you feel so hard done by.
Let´s look at and disect each and every decision that you feel hard done by.
Did you feel hard done by Macheda´s handball goal at Stamford Bridge ?
Ironically that happened in the same match that Utd fans always use to claim how hard done by they are in games against Chelsea.
2 big decisions like that wrong usually qualifies as a poor performance.
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are they big decisions though? perhaps there’s a case for the free kick one but linesman’s are unlikely to raise their flag just because the nearest person to them is in red – how does he know if a Chelsea player behind Smalling who is obstructing his view is playing him on? It’s a tough one to give
the second goal again – again quite a hard decision if the ball was over on the same side and the ball slid down the line then fair enough but the linesman is trying to watch the line and the ball which is about 50 yards away the otherside of the pitch and again replays showed that from the linesman angle it was still very close
as I;ve said offsides etc are given all the time – you only call these big decisions because they resulted in goals conceded - the free kick one perhaps as it would be clear to see if smalling would score or not – with the nani one if he had been penalised wrongly for example us united fans couldn’t look back the next day and say oh remember that offside against nani he was bound to stroll down the pitch and smack a 30 yard belter in??
It has not been proved that Nani was offside when the ball was played. I have replayed this incident over and over on sky+ using the pictures from MOTD2 where they freezed the action with a line drawn across the pitch just prior to the ball being passed, at that time Nani had half a foot ahead of the Chelsea defender on the nearside of the pitch. However Nani was moving back fairly quickly & in the second or so later when the kick was actually taken Nani will have got onside. The pictures really do not prove he was offside so it really is beyond me how anyone can say this was a mistake by the lineman.
An article started by a manc taking the p because a rival manager is unhappy about ref decisions, couldnt make it up!
fergie has spent the last 20 odd years complaining about the refs, he can now choose who he wants as a ref and who he doesnt.
why dont you lot get some class and admit you get very favourable decisions most of the time.
you have a quality team but you get a LOT of help most of the time when you come up against a team that can actually beat you!
Kenny was right to speak out, so are other managers, we are all fed up of seeing your club get favourbale decisions all the time as they are all scared of fergie, love to see your reaction if it was your club that had the decisions we have had to put up with against us!,
rafa tried speaking out against fergie and got ridiculed by all and sundry
whats the point of competing in this league anymore if we're not gna get a fair shake.
might aswell let man utd have their own league with their select referees (all of them) and leave us teams on our own to play football fairly without biased decisions.
rip unbiased officials
its sad to see we're stil concentrating on poor refereeing decisions rather than our great performance. 'Tis very sad
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maybe when fergie does retire, man utd might relinquish the control they have over fifa, uefa, the fa, the premier league, the cia & the fbi.
maybe then we might see someone else win the league fairly
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posted on 20/9/11
comment by HHHBF, AVB Still > Manchester (U6522)
Oh well shame, makes up for the dodgy one you got in the league!
posted on 20/9/11
With Nani - Im not too sure what the rule is about getting onside? I.e. Surely Nani has got himself back onside or does it have to be before the ball is kicked?
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By the letter of the law some other player needs to touch the ball to start the next phase of play and Nani can rejoin the game.
posted on 20/9/11
Chelsea fans watch your 2.1 win at the bridge again then come back and complain.
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Are you talking about Macheda´s handball goal that day ?
If so then I agree that we have every right to complain about that game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoGd0GUZYNg
posted on 20/9/11
Blimey, he's a right little whinger. Probably annoyed he played Wenger tactics at OT and lost.
Chin up 'AVB'.
posted on 20/9/11
No he's talking about Martin Atkinsons' dismal performance at the bridge, where he gave a you a freekick (which wasn't), then Drogba pulled one of our defenders to the ground and you scored an offside goal all in the space of 30 seconds!
posted on 20/9/11
comment by (U8713) posted 6 minutes ago
maybe the 2 offside goals
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The first goal was offside, but the 2nd has not been proved to be offside, it is extremely marginal & repeated TV replays do not show he was definitely offside. For the penalty there was clear contact so they can't really complain about that. Whereas on the other hand the ref failed to send off Cole & could well have given United a penalty for that challenge.
So basically this is unbelievable arrogance on the part of Chelsea to complain to the refs chief about 1 mistake from the officials that went in their favour.
posted on 20/9/11
No he's talking about Martin Atkinsons' dismal performance at the bridge, where he gave a you a freekick (which wasn't), then Drogba pulled one of our defenders to the ground and you scored an offside goal all in the space of 30 seconds!
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He couldn't have been as that game ended 1-0, but w/e
posted on 20/9/11
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posted on 20/9/11
The Cole one was NOT a penalty, the ball was already out of play.
posted on 20/9/11
No he's talking about Martin Atkinsons' dismal performance at the bridge, where he gave a you a freekick (which wasn't), then Drogba pulled one of our defenders to the ground and you scored an offside goal all in the space of 30 seconds!
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So you´re denying that Macheda´s handball happened that day ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoGd0GUZYNg
posted on 20/9/11
comment by TheRevoltutionWillNotBeTelevised (U1152)
posted 12 seconds ago
The Cole one was NOT a penalty, the ball was already out of play.
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He still should've been sent off though, dirty little rodent.
posted on 20/9/11
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posted on 20/9/11
comment by SuperbFrank (U6486)
When did i say that?
What i am saying is all your Chelsea fans are starting to sound like Scousers, all this constant moaning.
All teams get iffy decisions, we've been on the rough end of a fair few against Chelsea in recent years. So they're evening themselves out
Deal with it and stop your insessant whinging!
posted on 20/9/11
I'm sure if AVB knew how all these Man Utd fans felt about the competence of the linesmen, he'd promptly retract his complaint . He's right to complain through the proper channels, which he has done. Not like the sulking and moaning Fergie usually does to anyone with a microphone. Anyone wonder why big teams (Chelsea included) are so dominant at home? Because refereeing in the PL is hopelessly biased and it gets swept under the rug time and again, because it's not as interesting at 50 million pound striker's missing chances or Rooney's hair looking better than ever.
posted on 20/9/11
Lets all stop whinning and have a good laugh. 1m20sec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1mHiQNuhWVo
posted on 20/9/11
Also love the OP's "...or is he turning into Kenny Daglish" quote
Cos Ferguson has never brought a referees integrity into question. No no, he wouldn't dream of doing that
posted on 20/9/11
All teams get iffy decisions, we've been on the rough end of a fair few against Chelsea in recent years. So they're evening themselves out
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Name them then if you feel so hard done by.
Let´s look at and disect each and every decision that you feel hard done by.
Did you feel hard done by Macheda´s handball goal at Stamford Bridge ?
Ironically that happened in the same match that Utd fans always use to claim how hard done by they are in games against Chelsea.
posted on 20/9/11
2 big decisions like that wrong usually qualifies as a poor performance.
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are they big decisions though? perhaps there’s a case for the free kick one but linesman’s are unlikely to raise their flag just because the nearest person to them is in red – how does he know if a Chelsea player behind Smalling who is obstructing his view is playing him on? It’s a tough one to give
the second goal again – again quite a hard decision if the ball was over on the same side and the ball slid down the line then fair enough but the linesman is trying to watch the line and the ball which is about 50 yards away the otherside of the pitch and again replays showed that from the linesman angle it was still very close
as I;ve said offsides etc are given all the time – you only call these big decisions because they resulted in goals conceded - the free kick one perhaps as it would be clear to see if smalling would score or not – with the nani one if he had been penalised wrongly for example us united fans couldn’t look back the next day and say oh remember that offside against nani he was bound to stroll down the pitch and smack a 30 yard belter in??
posted on 20/9/11
It has not been proved that Nani was offside when the ball was played. I have replayed this incident over and over on sky+ using the pictures from MOTD2 where they freezed the action with a line drawn across the pitch just prior to the ball being passed, at that time Nani had half a foot ahead of the Chelsea defender on the nearside of the pitch. However Nani was moving back fairly quickly & in the second or so later when the kick was actually taken Nani will have got onside. The pictures really do not prove he was offside so it really is beyond me how anyone can say this was a mistake by the lineman.
posted on 20/9/11
An article started by a manc taking the p because a rival manager is unhappy about ref decisions, couldnt make it up!
fergie has spent the last 20 odd years complaining about the refs, he can now choose who he wants as a ref and who he doesnt.
why dont you lot get some class and admit you get very favourable decisions most of the time.
you have a quality team but you get a LOT of help most of the time when you come up against a team that can actually beat you!
Kenny was right to speak out, so are other managers, we are all fed up of seeing your club get favourbale decisions all the time as they are all scared of fergie, love to see your reaction if it was your club that had the decisions we have had to put up with against us!,
posted on 20/9/11
rafa tried speaking out against fergie and got ridiculed by all and sundry
whats the point of competing in this league anymore if we're not gna get a fair shake.
might aswell let man utd have their own league with their select referees (all of them) and leave us teams on our own to play football fairly without biased decisions.
rip unbiased officials
posted on 20/9/11
My heart bleeds
posted on 20/9/11
its sad to see we're stil concentrating on poor refereeing decisions rather than our great performance. 'Tis very sad
posted on 20/9/11
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posted on 20/9/11
maybe when fergie does retire, man utd might relinquish the control they have over fifa, uefa, the fa, the premier league, the cia & the fbi.
maybe then we might see someone else win the league fairly
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