Just seen this;
“Tottenham’s attendance at Wembley vs Bournemouth in the Premier League: 45,154 today
Sunderland’s attendance at the Stadium of Light vs Bradford in League One: 46,039 today”
It was a dive, however it was a foul in the box which is a penalty. They made it like this. If you don't go down, you don't get the penalty, despite being put at a disadvantage.
I'd have no problems with this kind of dive being punished but first you'd have to give penalties when fouled in the box, even if the player goes down. Then players wouldn't do it. Unless trying to deceive the referee, like Kane last season against Liverpool. It was made even more frustrating that Lamela then came from an offside position, initiated contact and dived to the ground and won a penalty, which again, whilst a dive, if you take away the offside, he was put at a disadvantage but highlighted it by going down.
I'm not sure what Spurs fans want here. Do you want to see the penalty given for the foul but Salah also punished for going down? Or as I suspect, with complete bias, you're saying it wasn't a foul at all and Salah looked to deceive the referee to make out that it was? In that case, they have studied the video retrospectively and ruled that is incorrect, as most others knew anyhow.
Regardless, we won 4-0. We cruised the match and were under no threat whatsoever. So even if the officials made a mistake and didn't give the penalty, we'd have had no issues winning the game.
*even if the player doesn't go down
Spurs as a club, are generally near the top of the table, in regard to yellow cards being given for simulation, so all articles attacking, or accusing others of such things, should be completely disregarded when they appear on this clubs board.👍
Thank you.😀
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 14 minutes ago
*even if the player doesn't go down
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it's ok, noone read it anyway
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 3 minutes ago
Spurs as a club, are generally near the top of the table, in regard to yellow cards being given for simulation, so all articles attacking, or accusing others of such things, should be completely disregarded when they appear on this clubs board.👍
Thank you.😀
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it was inevitable that someone would make this point at some stage during this thread.
comment by J. Britain is dead. Long live the EU. (U21968)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 14 minutes ago
*even if the player doesn't go down
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it's ok, noone read it anyway
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It's more likely some read it but decided to ignore the points as they couldn't come back with anything. Like you for example.
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by J. Britain is dead. Long live the EU. (U21968)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 14 minutes ago
*even if the player doesn't go down
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it's ok, noone read it anyway
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It's more likely some read it but decided to ignore the points as they couldn't come back with anything. Like you for example.
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no. I definitely didn't read it.
comment by J. Britain is dead. Long live the EU. (U21968)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by J. Britain is dead. Long live the EU. (U21968)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 14 minutes ago
*even if the player doesn't go down
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it's ok, noone read it anyway
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It's more likely some read it but decided to ignore the points as they couldn't come back with anything. Like you for example.
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no. I definitely didn't read it.
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Of course you didn't. In the off chance that you didn't - what's your point in being here?
“Football is about trying to trick your opponent - yes or no? "
========================
Who said this, in reaction to one of his players being booked for diving ?🤔
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by J. Britain is dead. Long live the EU. (U21968)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by J. Britain is dead. Long live the EU. (U21968)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 14 minutes ago
*even if the player doesn't go down
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it's ok, noone read it anyway
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It's more likely some read it but decided to ignore the points as they couldn't come back with anything. Like you for example.
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no. I definitely didn't read it.
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Of course you didn't. In the off chance that you didn't - what's your point in being here?
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(tries to think of a reason for being on the site other than reading this guy's comments)…..
…..
no, you got me
The difference is Bale for example used to get scythed down and yellow carded for it, when he should have had a penalty, due to the anti Spurs media persistently reminding everybody that Bale once dived.
On the other hand you have habitual cheats and divers like Salah, Suarez, Firmino etc regularly being rewarded with penalties and free kicks for their theatrics, and the Liverpool loving media just quickly sweep it under the carpet.
It comes down to Liverpool players being always given the benefit of doubt from referees, Spurs players are not, and we even have the England Captain, but that makes no difference.
I`ve been watching football for many years and it never changes, Liverpool by far and away get the most favour from referees over any other club. Hence why they have been given the most penalty kicks in PL history, and are well clear of the next on the list.
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 1 minute ago
The difference is Bale for example used to get scythed down and yellow carded for it, when he should have had a penalty, due to the anti Spurs media persistently reminding everybody that Bale once dived.
On the other hand you have habitual cheats and divers like Salah, Suarez, Firmino etc regularly being rewarded with penalties and free kicks for their theatrics, and the Liverpool loving media just quickly sweep it under the carpet.
It comes down to Liverpool players being always given the benefit of doubt from referees, Spurs players are not, and we even have the England Captain, but that makes no difference.
I`ve been watching football for many years and it never changes, Liverpool by far and away get the most favour from referees over any other club. Hence why they have been given the most penalty kicks in PL history, and are well clear of the next on the list.
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You could have just said "I've got nothing".
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 1 minute ago
The difference is Bale for example used to get scythed down and yellow carded for it, when he should have had a penalty, due to the anti Spurs media persistently reminding everybody that Bale once dived.
On the other hand you have habitual cheats and divers like Salah, Suarez, Firmino etc regularly being rewarded with penalties and free kicks for their theatrics, and the Liverpool loving media just quickly sweep it under the carpet.
It comes down to Liverpool players being always given the benefit of doubt from referees, Spurs players are not, and we even have the England Captain, but that makes no difference.
I`ve been watching football for many years and it never changes, Liverpool by far and away get the most favour from referees over any other club. Hence why they have been given the most penalty kicks in PL history, and are well clear of the next on the list.
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You could have just said "I've got nothing".
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He said we've got the England captain
Can you not read ffs ????
Oh god, Bitter Billy has ruined another keyboard with his tears again.
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
The difference is Bale for example used to get scythed down and yellow carded for it, when he should have had a penalty, due to the anti Spurs media persistently reminding everybody that Bale once dived.
On the other hand you have habitual cheats and divers like Salah, Suarez, Firmino etc regularly being rewarded with penalties and free kicks for their theatrics, and the Liverpool loving media just quickly sweep it under the carpet.
It comes down to Liverpool players being always given the benefit of doubt from referees, Spurs players are not, and we even have the England Captain, but that makes no difference.
I`ve been watching football for many years and it never changes, Liverpool by far and away get the most favour from referees over any other club. Hence why they have been given the most penalty kicks in PL history, and are well clear of the next on the list.
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Billy, you need help.
Proper fruitcake.
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
The difference is Bale for example used to get scythed down and yellow carded for it, when he should have had a penalty, due to the anti Spurs media persistently reminding everybody that Bale once dived.
On the other hand you have habitual cheats and divers like Salah, Suarez, Firmino etc regularly being rewarded with penalties and free kicks for their theatrics, and the Liverpool loving media just quickly sweep it under the carpet.
It comes down to Liverpool players being always given the benefit of doubt from referees, Spurs players are not, and we even have the England Captain, but that makes no difference.
I`ve been watching football for many years and it never changes, Liverpool by far and away get the most favour from referees over any other club. Hence why they have been given the most penalty kicks in PL history, and are well clear of the next on the list.
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Don't know why spurs fans aren't allowed to have a discussion about a topical issue regarding one of their title rivals, without all their fans piling into it as if it's got anything to do with them.
No control in this place is the problem
And Salah diving
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 8 minutes ago
The difference is Bale for example used to get scythed down and yellow carded for it, when he should have had a penalty, due to the anti Spurs media persistently reminding everybody that Bale once dived.
On the other hand you have habitual cheats and divers like Salah, Suarez, Firmino etc regularly being rewarded with penalties and free kicks for their theatrics, and the Liverpool loving media just quickly sweep it under the carpet.
It comes down to Liverpool players being always given the benefit of doubt from referees, Spurs players are not, and we even have the England Captain, but that makes no difference.
I`ve been watching football for many years and it never changes, Liverpool by far and away get the most favour from referees over any other club. Hence why they have been given the most penalty kicks in PL history, and are well clear of the next on the list.
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You're hilarious, I'll give you that. No Billy, the difference is your complete bias. There's a lot to debate on the subject of diving. Firstly what constitutes a dive? I just keep it simple and for me a dive is going down when the challenge hasn't caused you to go down. Then I ask myself, was he highlighting a foul? If the answer is yes, this does not get punished. For anybody. If the answer is no, then he has tried to deceive the referee and should be booked or punished retrospectively if that didn't happen during the game. That's the current situation. What some people want to see is players being punished for diving fullstop, whether they were fouled or not. This is difficult to implement but certainly not impossible, especially retrospectively and I wouldn't be against it but firstly, I'd want to see fouls being given when the player hasn't dived to highlight them. We'd then see much less diving for two reasons - they get rewarded when fouled, even when the foul wasn't enough to put them down and they get punished if they do go down when the foul wasn't enough to cause them to go down.
Until that happens, players will continue to dive when fouled, why shouldn't they? Why should they be put at a disadvantage?
FA are desparate to have a new winner of the Premier League, can't have City/Chelsea/United winning again.
From here on every decision goes in favour of Liverpool and Spurs
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 hours, 2 minutes ago
Salah is a serial diver and cheat, so nothing surprises me. Just annoying that he gets away with it, but I bet next week if say a Cardiff player does less, he will get a two game ban.
It was a dive however you look at it. Still if Salah and Liverpool want to cheat their way to success, that is their call.
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And Sandy’s getting his excuses lined up already......
comment by Father Pranksmas (U6283)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
The difference is Bale for example used to get scythed down and yellow carded for it, when he should have had a penalty, due to the anti Spurs media persistently reminding everybody that Bale once dived.
On the other hand you have habitual cheats and divers like Salah, Suarez, Firmino etc regularly being rewarded with penalties and free kicks for their theatrics, and the Liverpool loving media just quickly sweep it under the carpet.
It comes down to Liverpool players being always given the benefit of doubt from referees, Spurs players are not, and we even have the England Captain, but that makes no difference.
I`ve been watching football for many years and it never changes, Liverpool by far and away get the most favour from referees over any other club. Hence why they have been given the most penalty kicks in PL history, and are well clear of the next on the list.
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comment by Loco Liverpool (U18018)
posted 17 minutes ago
FA are desparate to have a new winner of the Premier League, can't have City/Chelsea/United winning again.
From here on every decision goes in favour of Liverpool and Spurs
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I think The FA will choose us over Spurs to favour, what with the LFC media bias and everything.
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 8 minutes ago
The difference is Bale for example used to get scythed down and yellow carded for it, when he should have had a penalty, due to the anti Spurs media persistently reminding everybody that Bale once dived.
On the other hand you have habitual cheats and divers like Salah, Suarez, Firmino etc regularly being rewarded with penalties and free kicks for their theatrics, and the Liverpool loving media just quickly sweep it under the carpet.
It comes down to Liverpool players being always given the benefit of doubt from referees, Spurs players are not, and we even have the England Captain, but that makes no difference.
I`ve been watching football for many years and it never changes, Liverpool by far and away get the most favour from referees over any other club. Hence why they have been given the most penalty kicks in PL history, and are well clear of the next on the list.
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You're hilarious, I'll give you that. No Billy, the difference is your complete bias. There's a lot to debate on the subject of diving. Firstly what constitutes a dive? I just keep it simple and for me a dive is going down when the challenge hasn't caused you to go down. Then I ask myself, was he highlighting a foul? If the answer is yes, this does not get punished. For anybody. If the answer is no, then he has tried to deceive the referee and should be booked or punished retrospectively if that didn't happen during the game. That's the current situation. What some people want to see is players being punished for diving fullstop, whether they were fouled or not. This is difficult to implement but certainly not impossible, especially retrospectively and I wouldn't be against it but firstly, I'd want to see fouls being given when the player hasn't dived to highlight them. We'd then see much less diving for two reasons - they get rewarded when fouled, even when the foul wasn't enough to put them down and they get punished if they do go down when the foul wasn't enough to cause them to go down.
Until that happens, players will continue to dive when fouled, why shouldn't they? Why should they be put at a disadvantage?
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Don’t come in here with your facts and logic. There’s no need for that.
Sign in if you want to comment
Reeks of cover up and helping the old boys!
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posted on 27/12/18
Just seen this;
“Tottenham’s attendance at Wembley vs Bournemouth in the Premier League: 45,154 today
Sunderland’s attendance at the Stadium of Light vs Bradford in League One: 46,039 today”
posted on 27/12/18
It was a dive, however it was a foul in the box which is a penalty. They made it like this. If you don't go down, you don't get the penalty, despite being put at a disadvantage.
I'd have no problems with this kind of dive being punished but first you'd have to give penalties when fouled in the box, even if the player goes down. Then players wouldn't do it. Unless trying to deceive the referee, like Kane last season against Liverpool. It was made even more frustrating that Lamela then came from an offside position, initiated contact and dived to the ground and won a penalty, which again, whilst a dive, if you take away the offside, he was put at a disadvantage but highlighted it by going down.
I'm not sure what Spurs fans want here. Do you want to see the penalty given for the foul but Salah also punished for going down? Or as I suspect, with complete bias, you're saying it wasn't a foul at all and Salah looked to deceive the referee to make out that it was? In that case, they have studied the video retrospectively and ruled that is incorrect, as most others knew anyhow.
Regardless, we won 4-0. We cruised the match and were under no threat whatsoever. So even if the officials made a mistake and didn't give the penalty, we'd have had no issues winning the game.
posted on 27/12/18
*even if the player doesn't go down
posted on 27/12/18
Spurs as a club, are generally near the top of the table, in regard to yellow cards being given for simulation, so all articles attacking, or accusing others of such things, should be completely disregarded when they appear on this clubs board.👍
Thank you.😀
posted on 27/12/18
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 14 minutes ago
*even if the player doesn't go down
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it's ok, noone read it anyway
posted on 27/12/18
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 3 minutes ago
Spurs as a club, are generally near the top of the table, in regard to yellow cards being given for simulation, so all articles attacking, or accusing others of such things, should be completely disregarded when they appear on this clubs board.👍
Thank you.😀
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it was inevitable that someone would make this point at some stage during this thread.
posted on 27/12/18
comment by J. Britain is dead. Long live the EU. (U21968)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 14 minutes ago
*even if the player doesn't go down
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it's ok, noone read it anyway
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It's more likely some read it but decided to ignore the points as they couldn't come back with anything. Like you for example.
posted on 27/12/18
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by J. Britain is dead. Long live the EU. (U21968)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 14 minutes ago
*even if the player doesn't go down
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it's ok, noone read it anyway
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It's more likely some read it but decided to ignore the points as they couldn't come back with anything. Like you for example.
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no. I definitely didn't read it.
posted on 27/12/18
comment by J. Britain is dead. Long live the EU. (U21968)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by J. Britain is dead. Long live the EU. (U21968)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 14 minutes ago
*even if the player doesn't go down
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it's ok, noone read it anyway
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It's more likely some read it but decided to ignore the points as they couldn't come back with anything. Like you for example.
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no. I definitely didn't read it.
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Of course you didn't. In the off chance that you didn't - what's your point in being here?
posted on 27/12/18
“Football is about trying to trick your opponent - yes or no? "
========================
Who said this, in reaction to one of his players being booked for diving ?🤔
posted on 27/12/18
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by J. Britain is dead. Long live the EU. (U21968)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by J. Britain is dead. Long live the EU. (U21968)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 14 minutes ago
*even if the player doesn't go down
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it's ok, noone read it anyway
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It's more likely some read it but decided to ignore the points as they couldn't come back with anything. Like you for example.
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no. I definitely didn't read it.
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Of course you didn't. In the off chance that you didn't - what's your point in being here?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
(tries to think of a reason for being on the site other than reading this guy's comments)…..
…..
no, you got me
posted on 27/12/18
The difference is Bale for example used to get scythed down and yellow carded for it, when he should have had a penalty, due to the anti Spurs media persistently reminding everybody that Bale once dived.
On the other hand you have habitual cheats and divers like Salah, Suarez, Firmino etc regularly being rewarded with penalties and free kicks for their theatrics, and the Liverpool loving media just quickly sweep it under the carpet.
It comes down to Liverpool players being always given the benefit of doubt from referees, Spurs players are not, and we even have the England Captain, but that makes no difference.
I`ve been watching football for many years and it never changes, Liverpool by far and away get the most favour from referees over any other club. Hence why they have been given the most penalty kicks in PL history, and are well clear of the next on the list.
posted on 27/12/18
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 1 minute ago
The difference is Bale for example used to get scythed down and yellow carded for it, when he should have had a penalty, due to the anti Spurs media persistently reminding everybody that Bale once dived.
On the other hand you have habitual cheats and divers like Salah, Suarez, Firmino etc regularly being rewarded with penalties and free kicks for their theatrics, and the Liverpool loving media just quickly sweep it under the carpet.
It comes down to Liverpool players being always given the benefit of doubt from referees, Spurs players are not, and we even have the England Captain, but that makes no difference.
I`ve been watching football for many years and it never changes, Liverpool by far and away get the most favour from referees over any other club. Hence why they have been given the most penalty kicks in PL history, and are well clear of the next on the list.
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You could have just said "I've got nothing".
posted on 27/12/18
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 1 minute ago
The difference is Bale for example used to get scythed down and yellow carded for it, when he should have had a penalty, due to the anti Spurs media persistently reminding everybody that Bale once dived.
On the other hand you have habitual cheats and divers like Salah, Suarez, Firmino etc regularly being rewarded with penalties and free kicks for their theatrics, and the Liverpool loving media just quickly sweep it under the carpet.
It comes down to Liverpool players being always given the benefit of doubt from referees, Spurs players are not, and we even have the England Captain, but that makes no difference.
I`ve been watching football for many years and it never changes, Liverpool by far and away get the most favour from referees over any other club. Hence why they have been given the most penalty kicks in PL history, and are well clear of the next on the list.
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You could have just said "I've got nothing".
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He said we've got the England captain
Can you not read ffs ????
posted on 27/12/18
Oh god, Bitter Billy has ruined another keyboard with his tears again.
posted on 27/12/18
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
The difference is Bale for example used to get scythed down and yellow carded for it, when he should have had a penalty, due to the anti Spurs media persistently reminding everybody that Bale once dived.
On the other hand you have habitual cheats and divers like Salah, Suarez, Firmino etc regularly being rewarded with penalties and free kicks for their theatrics, and the Liverpool loving media just quickly sweep it under the carpet.
It comes down to Liverpool players being always given the benefit of doubt from referees, Spurs players are not, and we even have the England Captain, but that makes no difference.
I`ve been watching football for many years and it never changes, Liverpool by far and away get the most favour from referees over any other club. Hence why they have been given the most penalty kicks in PL history, and are well clear of the next on the list.
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posted on 27/12/18
Billy, you need help.
Proper fruitcake.
posted on 27/12/18
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
The difference is Bale for example used to get scythed down and yellow carded for it, when he should have had a penalty, due to the anti Spurs media persistently reminding everybody that Bale once dived.
On the other hand you have habitual cheats and divers like Salah, Suarez, Firmino etc regularly being rewarded with penalties and free kicks for their theatrics, and the Liverpool loving media just quickly sweep it under the carpet.
It comes down to Liverpool players being always given the benefit of doubt from referees, Spurs players are not, and we even have the England Captain, but that makes no difference.
I`ve been watching football for many years and it never changes, Liverpool by far and away get the most favour from referees over any other club. Hence why they have been given the most penalty kicks in PL history, and are well clear of the next on the list.
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posted on 27/12/18
Don't know why spurs fans aren't allowed to have a discussion about a topical issue regarding one of their title rivals, without all their fans piling into it as if it's got anything to do with them.
No control in this place is the problem
And Salah diving
posted on 27/12/18
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 8 minutes ago
The difference is Bale for example used to get scythed down and yellow carded for it, when he should have had a penalty, due to the anti Spurs media persistently reminding everybody that Bale once dived.
On the other hand you have habitual cheats and divers like Salah, Suarez, Firmino etc regularly being rewarded with penalties and free kicks for their theatrics, and the Liverpool loving media just quickly sweep it under the carpet.
It comes down to Liverpool players being always given the benefit of doubt from referees, Spurs players are not, and we even have the England Captain, but that makes no difference.
I`ve been watching football for many years and it never changes, Liverpool by far and away get the most favour from referees over any other club. Hence why they have been given the most penalty kicks in PL history, and are well clear of the next on the list.
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You're hilarious, I'll give you that. No Billy, the difference is your complete bias. There's a lot to debate on the subject of diving. Firstly what constitutes a dive? I just keep it simple and for me a dive is going down when the challenge hasn't caused you to go down. Then I ask myself, was he highlighting a foul? If the answer is yes, this does not get punished. For anybody. If the answer is no, then he has tried to deceive the referee and should be booked or punished retrospectively if that didn't happen during the game. That's the current situation. What some people want to see is players being punished for diving fullstop, whether they were fouled or not. This is difficult to implement but certainly not impossible, especially retrospectively and I wouldn't be against it but firstly, I'd want to see fouls being given when the player hasn't dived to highlight them. We'd then see much less diving for two reasons - they get rewarded when fouled, even when the foul wasn't enough to put them down and they get punished if they do go down when the foul wasn't enough to cause them to go down.
Until that happens, players will continue to dive when fouled, why shouldn't they? Why should they be put at a disadvantage?
posted on 27/12/18
FA are desparate to have a new winner of the Premier League, can't have City/Chelsea/United winning again.
From here on every decision goes in favour of Liverpool and Spurs
posted on 27/12/18
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 hours, 2 minutes ago
Salah is a serial diver and cheat, so nothing surprises me. Just annoying that he gets away with it, but I bet next week if say a Cardiff player does less, he will get a two game ban.
It was a dive however you look at it. Still if Salah and Liverpool want to cheat their way to success, that is their call.
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And Sandy’s getting his excuses lined up already......
posted on 27/12/18
comment by Father Pranksmas (U6283)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
The difference is Bale for example used to get scythed down and yellow carded for it, when he should have had a penalty, due to the anti Spurs media persistently reminding everybody that Bale once dived.
On the other hand you have habitual cheats and divers like Salah, Suarez, Firmino etc regularly being rewarded with penalties and free kicks for their theatrics, and the Liverpool loving media just quickly sweep it under the carpet.
It comes down to Liverpool players being always given the benefit of doubt from referees, Spurs players are not, and we even have the England Captain, but that makes no difference.
I`ve been watching football for many years and it never changes, Liverpool by far and away get the most favour from referees over any other club. Hence why they have been given the most penalty kicks in PL history, and are well clear of the next on the list.
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posted on 27/12/18
comment by Loco Liverpool (U18018)
posted 17 minutes ago
FA are desparate to have a new winner of the Premier League, can't have City/Chelsea/United winning again.
From here on every decision goes in favour of Liverpool and Spurs
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I think The FA will choose us over Spurs to favour, what with the LFC media bias and everything.
posted on 27/12/18
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 8 minutes ago
The difference is Bale for example used to get scythed down and yellow carded for it, when he should have had a penalty, due to the anti Spurs media persistently reminding everybody that Bale once dived.
On the other hand you have habitual cheats and divers like Salah, Suarez, Firmino etc regularly being rewarded with penalties and free kicks for their theatrics, and the Liverpool loving media just quickly sweep it under the carpet.
It comes down to Liverpool players being always given the benefit of doubt from referees, Spurs players are not, and we even have the England Captain, but that makes no difference.
I`ve been watching football for many years and it never changes, Liverpool by far and away get the most favour from referees over any other club. Hence why they have been given the most penalty kicks in PL history, and are well clear of the next on the list.
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You're hilarious, I'll give you that. No Billy, the difference is your complete bias. There's a lot to debate on the subject of diving. Firstly what constitutes a dive? I just keep it simple and for me a dive is going down when the challenge hasn't caused you to go down. Then I ask myself, was he highlighting a foul? If the answer is yes, this does not get punished. For anybody. If the answer is no, then he has tried to deceive the referee and should be booked or punished retrospectively if that didn't happen during the game. That's the current situation. What some people want to see is players being punished for diving fullstop, whether they were fouled or not. This is difficult to implement but certainly not impossible, especially retrospectively and I wouldn't be against it but firstly, I'd want to see fouls being given when the player hasn't dived to highlight them. We'd then see much less diving for two reasons - they get rewarded when fouled, even when the foul wasn't enough to put them down and they get punished if they do go down when the foul wasn't enough to cause them to go down.
Until that happens, players will continue to dive when fouled, why shouldn't they? Why should they be put at a disadvantage?
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Don’t come in here with your facts and logic. There’s no need for that.
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