comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 17 minutes ago
Called a racist by a Socialist from the SNP whose policies has created a black hole in the Scottish economy. But as usual, they'll still blame the evil Tories.
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I always forget that the Tories have done such a magnificent job with the economy at Westminster.
What's the deficit sitting at these days?
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No more deficit for more than a year now. (I assume you are not confusing national debt with deficit).
No doubt, next Labour govt will come and reverse all the gains made so far and blow the deficit wide open again.
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
All the brexiteers sticking to Boris and voting him in, like a glue, the man who lied to them about the £320m sent to Europe every week and they are STILL voting for him.
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Gross amount sent to the EU is around £376m/week. Net is more than £220m every week.
And you don't see anything wrong with this?
What do we get in return? Trade. For which we even have a huge deficit with the bloc.
Just can't understand how Remainers think.
It's like they don't love this country and would rather see it destroyed.
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The country is being destroyed now with the extreme Brexiteers calling the shots. You reap what you sow. Still waiting for Brexiteers to let us all know how it is going to pan out. They are completely clueless.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
Brexiters had their opportunity and they blew it.
The withdrawal agreement was the best (and only) chance you were ever going to get.
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We still can walk away without any deal.
I just laugh when I heart English citizens state, ‘time to take our country back’. Oh the irony.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 5 minutes ago
The SNP hate the English so for them to call anybody racist is laughable. When does that odious toad Salmond go on trial?
Glad Javids gone I think we've all heard enough of the bus driver stuff and Rory was as mad as a lorry. I like my leaders to be male, middle aged and from privileged backgrounds.
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What a grovelling little serf.
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 17 minutes ago
Called a racist by a Socialist from the SNP whose policies has created a black hole in the Scottish economy. But as usual, they'll still blame the evil Tories.
____________________________________
I always forget that the Tories have done such a magnificent job with the economy at Westminster.
What's the deficit sitting at these days?
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No more deficit for more than a year now. (I assume you are not confusing national debt with deficit).
No doubt, next Labour govt will come and reverse all the gains made so far and blow the deficit wide open again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It`s a myth that the Tories are good with money, they aint. They have borrowed more money than every Labour Government combined.
UK National Debt Surpassed £1 Trillion. The UK national debt grows at a rate of £5,170 per second!
comment by (U21947)
posted 27 minutes ago
the most bizarre thing about brexit, is that people have more affinity towards the eu than their own countries
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I think the most bizarre thing is that people would rather quit the EU than use our influence to try and reform from within.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 2 minutes ago
Brexit is simply undeliverable. They should have had a clear plan before the Referendum was even called, and they didn`t. For the extreme Brexiteers to just say leave on a No Deal is a complete cop out, and absolutely no way will it get any backing in Parliament. And let`s be fair the Brexiteers spent months going on about handing back power to our own Parliament, so that is one thing they have got, and yet they are still grizzling.
Brexit was, is, will always be a complete joke. Pandering to the right wing of the Tory Party has landed the whole country in the mess it is is now. This mess will go on for years, with a devastating affect on the country.
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Again I repeat: if the current parliament fails to deliver Brexit, they will be replaced with those who can get the job done.
Many of you who say Brexit is undeliverable have fallen victims of the project fear.
Less than 9% of UK businesses trade with the EU. Worst case scenario means only these companies will be affected. And the govt. could take actions to ease the financial pains suffered by these companies in the short term(from the £39bn divorce bill).
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
Brexiters had their opportunity and they blew it.
The withdrawal agreement was the best (and only) chance you were ever going to get.
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We still can walk away without any deal.
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Brilliant
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 4 minutes ago
Brexit is simply undeliverable. They should have had a clear plan before the Referendum was even called, and they didn`t. For the extreme Brexiteers to just say leave on a No Deal is a complete cop out, and absolutely no way will it get any backing in Parliament. And let`s be fair the Brexiteers spent months going on about handing back power to our own Parliament, so that is one thing they have got, and yet they are still grizzling.
Brexit was, is, will always be a complete joke. Pandering to the right wing of the Tory Party has landed the whole country in the mess it is is now. This mess will go on for years, with a devastating affect on the country.
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It’s a racist fantasy Sandy.
For the rich elite, like Farage & Rees Mug it’s about tax avoidance, but for everybody else it was about kicking foreigners out of the country.
Already over 100,000 job vacancies in the NHS, don’t look like Gary Gammon will be filling any of those any time soon.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 3 minutes ago
You might be in for a shock. The man was elected mayor of London twice despite the place being over run by moronic lefties. He's extremely intelligent and has always polled will with the working class and those right of centre.
Despite this forum being full of SJWs and socialists the majority of the country is still Conservative, and I mean actually Conservative not Rory "cucky lib dem" Conservative. I think he'll be a huge success despite the nonsense the left wing papers and media will throw at him.
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Thank you.
Londoners are so up their arris they can't see the trees for the woods.
Any party that delivers Brexit will have a comfortable majority at the next general election.
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Therin lies the problem. As things stand Brexit is undeliverable.
If it ever does occur, as set out in the WA the UK will still be aligned with practically all of the EU aquis, and customs policy.
But without a voice/influence in shaping the regulatory framework it is bound by.
Not quite taking back control.
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To you it is undeliverable because you refuse to accept the democratic wish of the majority.
If the current parliament fails to deliver Brexit, they will be replaced by those who will get the job done.
You make it sound like this is one 3rd rate country that is unable to govern itselt.
We will still trade with the EU. But we don't want to belong to their political union.
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Trade on worse terms with our biggest market.
Stunning idea.
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We can agree zero tariff with the EU while trade negotiation is ongoing. This is allowed by the WTO.
Its like you guys just throw in the towel at the slightest sign of difficulty.
This country did not become great by accident.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 2 minutes ago
Brexit is simply undeliverable. They should have had a clear plan before the Referendum was even called, and they didn`t. For the extreme Brexiteers to just say leave on a No Deal is a complete cop out, and absolutely no way will it get any backing in Parliament. And let`s be fair the Brexiteers spent months going on about handing back power to our own Parliament, so that is one thing they have got, and yet they are still grizzling.
Brexit was, is, will always be a complete joke. Pandering to the right wing of the Tory Party has landed the whole country in the mess it is is now. This mess will go on for years, with a devastating affect on the country.
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Cameron gets far too much criticism for calling the EU ref. Have a look at UKIPs results in the 2014 European elections and its fairly obvious that they weren't going away.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
All the brexiteers sticking to Boris and voting him in, like a glue, the man who lied to them about the £320m sent to Europe every week and they are STILL voting for him.
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Gross amount sent to the EU is around £376m/week. Net is more than £220m every week.
And you don't see anything wrong with this?
What do we get in return? Trade. For which we even have a huge deficit with the bloc.
Just can't understand how Remainers think.
It's like they don't love this country and would rather see it destroyed.
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The country is being destroyed now with the extreme Brexiteers calling the shots. You reap what you sow. Still waiting for Brexiteers to let us all know how it is going to pan out. They are completely clueless.
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To date, no brexiteer has been in charge.
Don't you think it will be better to wait until brexit is implemented before you draw any conclusion?
You Remainers have been fighting against the democratic result for the past 3 years and yet, blame the Brexiters. This is really bizarre.
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 17 minutes ago
Called a racist by a Socialist from the SNP whose policies has created a black hole in the Scottish economy. But as usual, they'll still blame the evil Tories.
____________________________________
I always forget that the Tories have done such a magnificent job with the economy at Westminster.
What's the deficit sitting at these days?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No more deficit for more than a year now. (I assume you are not confusing national debt with deficit).
No doubt, next Labour govt will come and reverse all the gains made so far and blow the deficit wide open again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
the deficit is enormous
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/balance-of-trade
Now tell me again about this wonderful job the Tories are doing
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 3 minutes ago
You might be in for a shock. The man was elected mayor of London twice despite the place being over run by moronic lefties. He's extremely intelligent and has always polled will with the working class and those right of centre.
Despite this forum being full of SJWs and socialists the majority of the country is still Conservative, and I mean actually Conservative not Rory "cucky lib dem" Conservative. I think he'll be a huge success despite the nonsense the left wing papers and media will throw at him.
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Thank you.
Londoners are so up their arris they can't see the trees for the woods.
Any party that delivers Brexit will have a comfortable majority at the next general election.
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Therin lies the problem. As things stand Brexit is undeliverable.
If it ever does occur, as set out in the WA the UK will still be aligned with practically all of the EU aquis, and customs policy.
But without a voice/influence in shaping the regulatory framework it is bound by.
Not quite taking back control.
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To you it is undeliverable because you refuse to accept the democratic wish of the majority.
If the current parliament fails to deliver Brexit, they will be replaced by those who will get the job done.
You make it sound like this is one 3rd rate country that is unable to govern itselt.
We will still trade with the EU. But we don't want to belong to their political union.
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It is undeliverable because no-one (bar a select few) gave any thought to NI/Ireland.
It is impossible to maintain Strand 2 of the GFA and have NI and ROI in two separate regulatory and customs entities.
Of course the headbangers will refer to tech (that has yet to be invented etc and impossible as per no infrastructure commitments by both parties) but when they are challenged by details and specifics (for three years now) they have no answers. Because there aren't any.
And if tech (alternative arrangements, Malthouse etc etc) were in any way achievable, there would be no need for the backstop protocol the headbangers are so adverse to.
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
Brexiters had their opportunity and they blew it.
The withdrawal agreement was the best (and only) chance you were ever going to get.
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We still can walk away without any deal.
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Hmmm, like we did on March 29th? Of maybe the 12th April? Oh wait a minute........
No Deal/WTO dregs is long dead mate.
comment by sandy (U20567)
It`s a myth that the Tories are good with money, they aint. They have borrowed more money than every Labour Government combined.
UK National Debt Surpassed £1 Trillion. The UK national debt grows at a rate of £5,170 per second!
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And what party was responsible for that debt?
The fact is: as at today, the country is in the black thanks to the Tories. If Corbyn gets into number 10, that debt will double within 5 years. But then, you'll always blame the Tories without any fact but because of idealogy
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
Brexiters had their opportunity and they blew it.
The withdrawal agreement was the best (and only) chance you were ever going to get.
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We still can walk away without any deal.
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Brilliant
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Well, we are doing very well with the USA today without any trade deal. Not sure what your smiley is all about.
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 3 minutes ago
You might be in for a shock. The man was elected mayor of London twice despite the place being over run by moronic lefties. He's extremely intelligent and has always polled will with the working class and those right of centre.
Despite this forum being full of SJWs and socialists the majority of the country is still Conservative, and I mean actually Conservative not Rory "cucky lib dem" Conservative. I think he'll be a huge success despite the nonsense the left wing papers and media will throw at him.
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Thank you.
Londoners are so up their arris they can't see the trees for the woods.
Any party that delivers Brexit will have a comfortable majority at the next general election.
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Therin lies the problem. As things stand Brexit is undeliverable.
If it ever does occur, as set out in the WA the UK will still be aligned with practically all of the EU aquis, and customs policy.
But without a voice/influence in shaping the regulatory framework it is bound by.
Not quite taking back control.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To you it is undeliverable because you refuse to accept the democratic wish of the majority.
If the current parliament fails to deliver Brexit, they will be replaced by those who will get the job done.
You make it sound like this is one 3rd rate country that is unable to govern itselt.
We will still trade with the EU. But we don't want to belong to their political union.
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Trade on worse terms with our biggest market.
Stunning idea.
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We can agree zero tariff with the EU while trade negotiation is ongoing. This is allowed by the WTO.
Its like you guys just throw in the towel at the slightest sign of difficulty.
This country did not become great by accident.
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It was never that great to be honest.
And you’re the spineless quitter remember, not me.
WTO means instant trade barriers, tariffs, and a hard border.
Like I said, learn the basics.
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
Brexiters had their opportunity and they blew it.
The withdrawal agreement was the best (and only) chance you were ever going to get.
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We still can walk away without any deal.
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Brilliant
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Well, we are doing very well with the USA today without any trade deal. Not sure what your smiley is all about.
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It's a laughing smiley to indicate amusement
It represents how laughable it is that anyone is still trying to argue that a no deal Brexit would be a good thing
Hope that clears things up
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 3 minutes ago
You might be in for a shock. The man was elected mayor of London twice despite the place being over run by moronic lefties. He's extremely intelligent and has always polled will with the working class and those right of centre.
Despite this forum being full of SJWs and socialists the majority of the country is still Conservative, and I mean actually Conservative not Rory "cucky lib dem" Conservative. I think he'll be a huge success despite the nonsense the left wing papers and media will throw at him.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you.
Londoners are so up their arris they can't see the trees for the woods.
Any party that delivers Brexit will have a comfortable majority at the next general election.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Therin lies the problem. As things stand Brexit is undeliverable.
If it ever does occur, as set out in the WA the UK will still be aligned with practically all of the EU aquis, and customs policy.
But without a voice/influence in shaping the regulatory framework it is bound by.
Not quite taking back control.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To you it is undeliverable because you refuse to accept the democratic wish of the majority.
If the current parliament fails to deliver Brexit, they will be replaced by those who will get the job done.
You make it sound like this is one 3rd rate country that is unable to govern itselt.
We will still trade with the EU. But we don't want to belong to their political union.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Trade on worse terms with our biggest market.
Stunning idea.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can agree zero tariff with the EU while trade negotiation is ongoing. This is allowed by the WTO.
Its like you guys just throw in the towel at the slightest sign of difficulty.
This country did not become great by accident.
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That WTO rule only comes into effect if we're way along such negotiations. As it stands, we'd have to wait a few years for that, and that's if EU want to open negotiations straight away.
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
Brexiters had their opportunity and they blew it.
The withdrawal agreement was the best (and only) chance you were ever going to get.
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We still can walk away without any deal.
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Brilliant
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Well, we are doing very well with the USA today without any trade deal. Not sure what your smiley is all about.
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It's a laughing smiley to indicate amusement
It represents how laughable it is that anyone is still trying to argue that a no deal Brexit would be a good thing
Hope that clears things up
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It’s like debating with a deranged cult, which lets face it, is what it is.
Our Sovereign Parliament (Tories included) will bring down any Government that even attempts a suicidal no deal.
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 17 minutes ago
Called a racist by a Socialist from the SNP whose policies has created a black hole in the Scottish economy. But as usual, they'll still blame the evil Tories.
____________________________________
I always forget that the Tories have done such a magnificent job with the economy at Westminster.
What's the deficit sitting at these days?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No more deficit for more than a year now. (I assume you are not confusing national debt with deficit).
No doubt, next Labour govt will come and reverse all the gains made so far and blow the deficit wide open again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
the deficit is enormous
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/balance-of-trade
Now tell me again about this wonderful job the Tories are doing
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It seems you are confusing trade deficit with govt spending deficit.
Some misunderstanding in regard to the WTO.
All developed countries (164 members) already trade under their WTO commitments. They are the absolute baseline. Countries come together to negotiate to enhance their trading relationships (improve on their baseline WTO obligations).
The principle obligation of WTO obligations is MFN (non-discriminatory). Which means if (outside a free trade area/preferential trading relationship) a country treats another member in a certain way (say waives tariffs) it has to do so for all other WTO members.
Which is where the Brexiteer cheaper produce outside of the EU falls apart.
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posted on 20/6/19
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 17 minutes ago
Called a racist by a Socialist from the SNP whose policies has created a black hole in the Scottish economy. But as usual, they'll still blame the evil Tories.
____________________________________
I always forget that the Tories have done such a magnificent job with the economy at Westminster.
What's the deficit sitting at these days?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No more deficit for more than a year now. (I assume you are not confusing national debt with deficit).
No doubt, next Labour govt will come and reverse all the gains made so far and blow the deficit wide open again.
posted on 20/6/19
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
All the brexiteers sticking to Boris and voting him in, like a glue, the man who lied to them about the £320m sent to Europe every week and they are STILL voting for him.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gross amount sent to the EU is around £376m/week. Net is more than £220m every week.
And you don't see anything wrong with this?
What do we get in return? Trade. For which we even have a huge deficit with the bloc.
Just can't understand how Remainers think.
It's like they don't love this country and would rather see it destroyed.
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The country is being destroyed now with the extreme Brexiteers calling the shots. You reap what you sow. Still waiting for Brexiteers to let us all know how it is going to pan out. They are completely clueless.
posted on 20/6/19
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
Brexiters had their opportunity and they blew it.
The withdrawal agreement was the best (and only) chance you were ever going to get.
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We still can walk away without any deal.
posted on 20/6/19
I just laugh when I heart English citizens state, ‘time to take our country back’. Oh the irony.
posted on 20/6/19
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 5 minutes ago
The SNP hate the English so for them to call anybody racist is laughable. When does that odious toad Salmond go on trial?
Glad Javids gone I think we've all heard enough of the bus driver stuff and Rory was as mad as a lorry. I like my leaders to be male, middle aged and from privileged backgrounds.
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What a grovelling little serf.
posted on 20/6/19
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 17 minutes ago
Called a racist by a Socialist from the SNP whose policies has created a black hole in the Scottish economy. But as usual, they'll still blame the evil Tories.
____________________________________
I always forget that the Tories have done such a magnificent job with the economy at Westminster.
What's the deficit sitting at these days?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No more deficit for more than a year now. (I assume you are not confusing national debt with deficit).
No doubt, next Labour govt will come and reverse all the gains made so far and blow the deficit wide open again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It`s a myth that the Tories are good with money, they aint. They have borrowed more money than every Labour Government combined.
UK National Debt Surpassed £1 Trillion. The UK national debt grows at a rate of £5,170 per second!
posted on 20/6/19
comment by (U21947)
posted 27 minutes ago
the most bizarre thing about brexit, is that people have more affinity towards the eu than their own countries
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I think the most bizarre thing is that people would rather quit the EU than use our influence to try and reform from within.
posted on 20/6/19
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 2 minutes ago
Brexit is simply undeliverable. They should have had a clear plan before the Referendum was even called, and they didn`t. For the extreme Brexiteers to just say leave on a No Deal is a complete cop out, and absolutely no way will it get any backing in Parliament. And let`s be fair the Brexiteers spent months going on about handing back power to our own Parliament, so that is one thing they have got, and yet they are still grizzling.
Brexit was, is, will always be a complete joke. Pandering to the right wing of the Tory Party has landed the whole country in the mess it is is now. This mess will go on for years, with a devastating affect on the country.
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Again I repeat: if the current parliament fails to deliver Brexit, they will be replaced with those who can get the job done.
Many of you who say Brexit is undeliverable have fallen victims of the project fear.
Less than 9% of UK businesses trade with the EU. Worst case scenario means only these companies will be affected. And the govt. could take actions to ease the financial pains suffered by these companies in the short term(from the £39bn divorce bill).
posted on 20/6/19
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
Brexiters had their opportunity and they blew it.
The withdrawal agreement was the best (and only) chance you were ever going to get.
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We still can walk away without any deal.
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Brilliant
posted on 20/6/19
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 4 minutes ago
Brexit is simply undeliverable. They should have had a clear plan before the Referendum was even called, and they didn`t. For the extreme Brexiteers to just say leave on a No Deal is a complete cop out, and absolutely no way will it get any backing in Parliament. And let`s be fair the Brexiteers spent months going on about handing back power to our own Parliament, so that is one thing they have got, and yet they are still grizzling.
Brexit was, is, will always be a complete joke. Pandering to the right wing of the Tory Party has landed the whole country in the mess it is is now. This mess will go on for years, with a devastating affect on the country.
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It’s a racist fantasy Sandy.
For the rich elite, like Farage & Rees Mug it’s about tax avoidance, but for everybody else it was about kicking foreigners out of the country.
Already over 100,000 job vacancies in the NHS, don’t look like Gary Gammon will be filling any of those any time soon.
posted on 20/6/19
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 3 minutes ago
You might be in for a shock. The man was elected mayor of London twice despite the place being over run by moronic lefties. He's extremely intelligent and has always polled will with the working class and those right of centre.
Despite this forum being full of SJWs and socialists the majority of the country is still Conservative, and I mean actually Conservative not Rory "cucky lib dem" Conservative. I think he'll be a huge success despite the nonsense the left wing papers and media will throw at him.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you.
Londoners are so up their arris they can't see the trees for the woods.
Any party that delivers Brexit will have a comfortable majority at the next general election.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Therin lies the problem. As things stand Brexit is undeliverable.
If it ever does occur, as set out in the WA the UK will still be aligned with practically all of the EU aquis, and customs policy.
But without a voice/influence in shaping the regulatory framework it is bound by.
Not quite taking back control.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To you it is undeliverable because you refuse to accept the democratic wish of the majority.
If the current parliament fails to deliver Brexit, they will be replaced by those who will get the job done.
You make it sound like this is one 3rd rate country that is unable to govern itselt.
We will still trade with the EU. But we don't want to belong to their political union.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Trade on worse terms with our biggest market.
Stunning idea.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can agree zero tariff with the EU while trade negotiation is ongoing. This is allowed by the WTO.
Its like you guys just throw in the towel at the slightest sign of difficulty.
This country did not become great by accident.
posted on 20/6/19
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 2 minutes ago
Brexit is simply undeliverable. They should have had a clear plan before the Referendum was even called, and they didn`t. For the extreme Brexiteers to just say leave on a No Deal is a complete cop out, and absolutely no way will it get any backing in Parliament. And let`s be fair the Brexiteers spent months going on about handing back power to our own Parliament, so that is one thing they have got, and yet they are still grizzling.
Brexit was, is, will always be a complete joke. Pandering to the right wing of the Tory Party has landed the whole country in the mess it is is now. This mess will go on for years, with a devastating affect on the country.
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Cameron gets far too much criticism for calling the EU ref. Have a look at UKIPs results in the 2014 European elections and its fairly obvious that they weren't going away.
posted on 20/6/19
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
All the brexiteers sticking to Boris and voting him in, like a glue, the man who lied to them about the £320m sent to Europe every week and they are STILL voting for him.
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Gross amount sent to the EU is around £376m/week. Net is more than £220m every week.
And you don't see anything wrong with this?
What do we get in return? Trade. For which we even have a huge deficit with the bloc.
Just can't understand how Remainers think.
It's like they don't love this country and would rather see it destroyed.
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The country is being destroyed now with the extreme Brexiteers calling the shots. You reap what you sow. Still waiting for Brexiteers to let us all know how it is going to pan out. They are completely clueless.
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To date, no brexiteer has been in charge.
Don't you think it will be better to wait until brexit is implemented before you draw any conclusion?
You Remainers have been fighting against the democratic result for the past 3 years and yet, blame the Brexiters. This is really bizarre.
posted on 20/6/19
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 17 minutes ago
Called a racist by a Socialist from the SNP whose policies has created a black hole in the Scottish economy. But as usual, they'll still blame the evil Tories.
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I always forget that the Tories have done such a magnificent job with the economy at Westminster.
What's the deficit sitting at these days?
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No more deficit for more than a year now. (I assume you are not confusing national debt with deficit).
No doubt, next Labour govt will come and reverse all the gains made so far and blow the deficit wide open again.
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the deficit is enormous
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/balance-of-trade
Now tell me again about this wonderful job the Tories are doing
posted on 20/6/19
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 3 minutes ago
You might be in for a shock. The man was elected mayor of London twice despite the place being over run by moronic lefties. He's extremely intelligent and has always polled will with the working class and those right of centre.
Despite this forum being full of SJWs and socialists the majority of the country is still Conservative, and I mean actually Conservative not Rory "cucky lib dem" Conservative. I think he'll be a huge success despite the nonsense the left wing papers and media will throw at him.
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Thank you.
Londoners are so up their arris they can't see the trees for the woods.
Any party that delivers Brexit will have a comfortable majority at the next general election.
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Therin lies the problem. As things stand Brexit is undeliverable.
If it ever does occur, as set out in the WA the UK will still be aligned with practically all of the EU aquis, and customs policy.
But without a voice/influence in shaping the regulatory framework it is bound by.
Not quite taking back control.
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To you it is undeliverable because you refuse to accept the democratic wish of the majority.
If the current parliament fails to deliver Brexit, they will be replaced by those who will get the job done.
You make it sound like this is one 3rd rate country that is unable to govern itselt.
We will still trade with the EU. But we don't want to belong to their political union.
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It is undeliverable because no-one (bar a select few) gave any thought to NI/Ireland.
It is impossible to maintain Strand 2 of the GFA and have NI and ROI in two separate regulatory and customs entities.
Of course the headbangers will refer to tech (that has yet to be invented etc and impossible as per no infrastructure commitments by both parties) but when they are challenged by details and specifics (for three years now) they have no answers. Because there aren't any.
And if tech (alternative arrangements, Malthouse etc etc) were in any way achievable, there would be no need for the backstop protocol the headbangers are so adverse to.
posted on 20/6/19
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
Brexiters had their opportunity and they blew it.
The withdrawal agreement was the best (and only) chance you were ever going to get.
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We still can walk away without any deal.
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Hmmm, like we did on March 29th? Of maybe the 12th April? Oh wait a minute........
No Deal/WTO dregs is long dead mate.
posted on 20/6/19
comment by sandy (U20567)
It`s a myth that the Tories are good with money, they aint. They have borrowed more money than every Labour Government combined.
UK National Debt Surpassed £1 Trillion. The UK national debt grows at a rate of £5,170 per second!
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And what party was responsible for that debt?
The fact is: as at today, the country is in the black thanks to the Tories. If Corbyn gets into number 10, that debt will double within 5 years. But then, you'll always blame the Tories without any fact but because of idealogy
posted on 20/6/19
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
Brexiters had their opportunity and they blew it.
The withdrawal agreement was the best (and only) chance you were ever going to get.
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We still can walk away without any deal.
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Brilliant
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Well, we are doing very well with the USA today without any trade deal. Not sure what your smiley is all about.
posted on 20/6/19
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 3 minutes ago
You might be in for a shock. The man was elected mayor of London twice despite the place being over run by moronic lefties. He's extremely intelligent and has always polled will with the working class and those right of centre.
Despite this forum being full of SJWs and socialists the majority of the country is still Conservative, and I mean actually Conservative not Rory "cucky lib dem" Conservative. I think he'll be a huge success despite the nonsense the left wing papers and media will throw at him.
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Thank you.
Londoners are so up their arris they can't see the trees for the woods.
Any party that delivers Brexit will have a comfortable majority at the next general election.
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Therin lies the problem. As things stand Brexit is undeliverable.
If it ever does occur, as set out in the WA the UK will still be aligned with practically all of the EU aquis, and customs policy.
But without a voice/influence in shaping the regulatory framework it is bound by.
Not quite taking back control.
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To you it is undeliverable because you refuse to accept the democratic wish of the majority.
If the current parliament fails to deliver Brexit, they will be replaced by those who will get the job done.
You make it sound like this is one 3rd rate country that is unable to govern itselt.
We will still trade with the EU. But we don't want to belong to their political union.
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Trade on worse terms with our biggest market.
Stunning idea.
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We can agree zero tariff with the EU while trade negotiation is ongoing. This is allowed by the WTO.
Its like you guys just throw in the towel at the slightest sign of difficulty.
This country did not become great by accident.
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It was never that great to be honest.
And you’re the spineless quitter remember, not me.
WTO means instant trade barriers, tariffs, and a hard border.
Like I said, learn the basics.
posted on 20/6/19
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
Brexiters had their opportunity and they blew it.
The withdrawal agreement was the best (and only) chance you were ever going to get.
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We still can walk away without any deal.
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Brilliant
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Well, we are doing very well with the USA today without any trade deal. Not sure what your smiley is all about.
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It's a laughing smiley to indicate amusement
It represents how laughable it is that anyone is still trying to argue that a no deal Brexit would be a good thing
Hope that clears things up
posted on 20/6/19
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 3 minutes ago
You might be in for a shock. The man was elected mayor of London twice despite the place being over run by moronic lefties. He's extremely intelligent and has always polled will with the working class and those right of centre.
Despite this forum being full of SJWs and socialists the majority of the country is still Conservative, and I mean actually Conservative not Rory "cucky lib dem" Conservative. I think he'll be a huge success despite the nonsense the left wing papers and media will throw at him.
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Thank you.
Londoners are so up their arris they can't see the trees for the woods.
Any party that delivers Brexit will have a comfortable majority at the next general election.
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Therin lies the problem. As things stand Brexit is undeliverable.
If it ever does occur, as set out in the WA the UK will still be aligned with practically all of the EU aquis, and customs policy.
But without a voice/influence in shaping the regulatory framework it is bound by.
Not quite taking back control.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To you it is undeliverable because you refuse to accept the democratic wish of the majority.
If the current parliament fails to deliver Brexit, they will be replaced by those who will get the job done.
You make it sound like this is one 3rd rate country that is unable to govern itselt.
We will still trade with the EU. But we don't want to belong to their political union.
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Trade on worse terms with our biggest market.
Stunning idea.
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We can agree zero tariff with the EU while trade negotiation is ongoing. This is allowed by the WTO.
Its like you guys just throw in the towel at the slightest sign of difficulty.
This country did not become great by accident.
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That WTO rule only comes into effect if we're way along such negotiations. As it stands, we'd have to wait a few years for that, and that's if EU want to open negotiations straight away.
posted on 20/6/19
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
Brexiters had their opportunity and they blew it.
The withdrawal agreement was the best (and only) chance you were ever going to get.
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We still can walk away without any deal.
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Brilliant
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Well, we are doing very well with the USA today without any trade deal. Not sure what your smiley is all about.
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It's a laughing smiley to indicate amusement
It represents how laughable it is that anyone is still trying to argue that a no deal Brexit would be a good thing
Hope that clears things up
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It’s like debating with a deranged cult, which lets face it, is what it is.
Our Sovereign Parliament (Tories included) will bring down any Government that even attempts a suicidal no deal.
posted on 20/6/19
Brexit means Brexit.
posted on 20/6/19
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 17 minutes ago
Called a racist by a Socialist from the SNP whose policies has created a black hole in the Scottish economy. But as usual, they'll still blame the evil Tories.
____________________________________
I always forget that the Tories have done such a magnificent job with the economy at Westminster.
What's the deficit sitting at these days?
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No more deficit for more than a year now. (I assume you are not confusing national debt with deficit).
No doubt, next Labour govt will come and reverse all the gains made so far and blow the deficit wide open again.
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the deficit is enormous
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/balance-of-trade
Now tell me again about this wonderful job the Tories are doing
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It seems you are confusing trade deficit with govt spending deficit.
posted on 20/6/19
Some misunderstanding in regard to the WTO.
All developed countries (164 members) already trade under their WTO commitments. They are the absolute baseline. Countries come together to negotiate to enhance their trading relationships (improve on their baseline WTO obligations).
The principle obligation of WTO obligations is MFN (non-discriminatory). Which means if (outside a free trade area/preferential trading relationship) a country treats another member in a certain way (say waives tariffs) it has to do so for all other WTO members.
Which is where the Brexiteer cheaper produce outside of the EU falls apart.
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