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Javid gone, is that really a surprise?

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posted on 20/6/19

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 5 seconds ago
At least that repugnant weasel faced cockroach Gove has gone. Now there’s a bloke who I'd like to smash in the face with a scorching hot anvil.
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There is a suggestion that some Boris supporters voted for Hunt to ensure that Gove went out?

My money is on May and Stewart for the 2 spoilt ballot papers.
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They wanted Hunt on because he’s a remainer.
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Theresa in trousers is about right.

posted on 20/6/19

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 5 seconds ago
At least that repugnant weasel faced cockroach Gove has gone. Now there’s a bloke who I'd like to smash in the face with a scorching hot anvil.
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There is a suggestion that some Boris supporters voted for Hunt to ensure that Gove went out?

My money is on May and Stewart for the 2 spoilt ballot papers.
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They wanted Hunt on because he’s a remainer.
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Theresa in trousers is about right.
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Makes no difference. The negotiations are over.

comment by (U18814)

posted on 20/6/19

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posted on 20/6/19


Don’t forget the blue passports we could have had anyway👍

Oh, and the democracy we’ve got back which means that 100k Tory members who have paid £30 for the privilege get to decide the PM for the WHOLE country - unelected bureaucrats🤣
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Similar to how Brown became PM, it is the way it works, when we vote it is for a party and not for an individual.
The party decides who they want to lead them & ultimately becomes PM.

posted on 21/6/19

comment by mancini (U7179)

posted 10 hours, 11 minutes ago

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 9 minutes ago
The EU has decimated our industrial base and shipped them to Eastern Europe.
Our govt can't provide help to British Steel because of EU regulation.
Our fishermen can't fish on OUR waters because of EU regulation.
Our light bulbs, vacuum cleaners, working time directive etc. are all being controlled by the EU.
And for these regulations, we have to pay a net of more than £200m every week.
Money that could be spent on our forces or NHS.
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Can you actually back all this up?
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British steel has been all over the news in recent weeks.
Common Fisheries policy means we are not in control of our waters.
Many companies have been closed down and given EU grants to relocate to Eastern Europe. Try google for details.
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Google (guardian, mail, and BBC as well) isn't easily available to me here.
The reason why I have asked is a few of these have been debunked. So I wanted to get some information which I can compare with what I already know.
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Our industrial base is being decimated by Brexit and before that our own government.

British Steel issues are due to Brexit. Otherwise this would not be an issue in the first place.

Ight bulbs anD vacuum cleaners need to be at a common standard in a common market.

The fisheries industry has issues with over fishing. Even the French fishermen have to stop to allow the fish they catch to replenish. Especially when it is the breeding season. Secondly, our government has sold off fishining quotas to other countries so their fishermen can use our seas. Its convient to blame the EU.

posted on 21/6/19

On Javid, he is a just like the rest of them. No better than Hunt. Boris, Raab and Gove are the worse of the lot though. Take the issue with Islamaphobia in the tory party. He said not too long ago there isn't and gave himself as an example (this from someone who said he doesn't practise any religion). Then, when running for this he brought it up.

posted on 21/6/19

comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 4 hours, 38 minutes ago

Don’t forget the blue passports we could have had anyway👍

Oh, and the democracy we’ve got back which means that 100k Tory members who have paid £30 for the privilege get to decide the PM for the WHOLE country - unelected bureaucrats🤣
———————-

Similar to how Brown became PM, it is the way it works, when we vote it is for a party and not for an individual.
The party decides who they want to lead them & ultimately becomes PM.
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No legitimacy, no credibility, no mandate.

posted on 21/6/19

Boris complained about Brown. What will he do, I wonder?

posted on 21/6/19

What he always does.

Flip Flop.

posted on 21/6/19

Unlike being the Mayor of London, he's not going to be able to hide behind other people running things for him while he writes articles for a certain newspaper.

posted on 21/6/19

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 13 minutes ago
Unlike being the Mayor of London, he's not going to be able to hide behind other people running things for him while he writes articles for a certain newspaper.
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posted on 21/6/19

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/18/sadiq-khan-accuse-conservative-leadership-candidates-aping-language-far-right?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Sadiq Khan

posted on 21/6/19

Reading this thread, my personal interactions and other social media posts, I posit there is a very strong correlation between leavers and low IQ.

It makes me sad.

posted on 21/6/19

comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 15 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
Brexiters had their opportunity and they blew it.

The withdrawal agreement was the best (and only) chance you were ever going to get.
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We still can walk away without any deal.
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Brilliant
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Well, we are doing very well with the USA today without any trade deal. Not sure what your smiley is all about.
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It's a laughing smiley to indicate amusement

It represents how laughable it is that anyone is still trying to argue that a no deal Brexit would be a good thing

Hope that clears things up
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It’s like debating with a deranged cult, which lets face it, is what it is.

Our Sovereign Parliament (Tories included) will bring down any Government that even attempts a suicidal no deal.
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I think its the Remainers who have been acting like a cult.

The EU has caused so much damage to this country for decades. Tony Benn was against it. Many prominent Labour politicians were against it. The EU has decimated our industrial base and shipped them to Eastern Europe.
Our govt can't provide help to British Steel because of EU regulation.
Our fishermen can't fish on OUR waters because of EU regulation.
Our light bulbs, vacuum cleaners, working time directive etc. are all being controlled by the EU.
And for these regulations, we have to pay a net of more than £200m every week.
Money that could be spent on our forces or NHS.

But you don't see anything wrong in this. It is the evil Brexiters who want the best for their country that are behaving like a cult.
Well done.
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The UK was at the forefront of setting these regulations as the second largest member state.

Conformity and trade liberalisation/harmonisation is predominantly led by industry and will not change post Brexit. It's why businesses have not needed to market/produce products for 27 separate markets.

I'm sure you will appreciate the cost reductions in only having to produce goods for one market instead of 27 individual ones.

posted on 21/6/19

Here he is

posted on 21/6/19

comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 8 hours, 29 minutes ago

Don’t forget the blue passports we could have had anyway👍

Oh, and the democracy we’ve got back which means that 100k Tory members who have paid £30 for the privilege get to decide the PM for the WHOLE country - unelected bureaucrats🤣
———————-

Similar to how Brown became PM, it is the way it works, when we vote it is for a party and not for an individual.
The party decides who they want to lead them & ultimately becomes PM.
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Sorry Genius, cannot agree, Brown should not have become PM either without a vote from the electorial at large. If the country are going to change Prime Ministers, it is essential for democracty that all of us get a vote. As it stands it is the sort of stuff banana republics do, just put in a leader without any kind of democratic vote. They seriously need to change the rules, where if the current PM stands down, then whoever replaces him/her should immediately call a General Election to get a mandate.

posted on 21/6/19

I love the way the Tories keep bringing up how Johnson won two Mayor of London elections, that was like nearly 10 years ago, and a lot has changed, and the second time he barely scrapped past Ken Livingstone, who was way past his sell buy date. He was an awful mayor anyway, he wasted so much money on bridges that never opened, buses that never ran, an Olympic Stadium that is still costing the taxpayers millions and other madcap schemes that never got off the ground. He was totally and utterly useless as Mayor of London contrary to the nonsense currently being peddled by the Tory media.

posted on 21/6/19

Tessa Jowell delivered the Olympics.

Tories trying to ride on the coattails

posted on 21/6/19

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 17 seconds ago
I love the way the Tories keep bringing up how Johnson won two Mayor of London elections, that was like nearly 10 years ago, and a lot has changed, and the second time he barely scrapped past Ken Livingstone, who was way past his sell buy date. He was an awful mayor anyway, he wasted so much money on bridges that never opened, buses that never ran, an Olympic Stadium that is still costing the taxpayers millions and other madcap schemes that never got off the ground. He was totally and utterly useless as Mayor of London contrary to the nonsense currently being peddled by the Tory media.
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I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy. If I had a pound for everytime I've heard somebody bleating on about 350mil on the side of a bus or letterboxes in recent months I'd be a very rich man.

posted on 21/6/19

I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
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You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?

posted on 21/6/19

comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
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You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?

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Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.

I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.

posted on 21/6/19

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 17 seconds ago
I love the way the Tories keep bringing up how Johnson won two Mayor of London elections, that was like nearly 10 years ago, and a lot has changed, and the second time he barely scrapped past Ken Livingstone, who was way past his sell buy date. He was an awful mayor anyway, he wasted so much money on bridges that never opened, buses that never ran, an Olympic Stadium that is still costing the taxpayers millions and other madcap schemes that never got off the ground. He was totally and utterly useless as Mayor of London contrary to the nonsense currently being peddled by the Tory media.
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I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy. If I had a pound for everytime I've heard somebody bleating on about 350mil on the side of a bus or letterboxes in recent months I'd be a very rich man.
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It was a central plank of the Leave Campaign, the bus was wheeled out without fail every single day. Now if you are not going to believe or take any notice of that, then why should the vote of three years ago be taken seriously, when it is obvious that there is no plan for delivery, and never has been. The whole Brexit shambles was just to please the extreme right wing of the Tory Party, and three years on, it is still that internal fight in the Tory Party that is at the centre of everything.

posted on 21/6/19

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
Tessa Jowell delivered the Olympics.

Tories trying to ride on the coattails
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Apparently Johnson also delivered Crossrail, you know the rail project that is years behind and billions overpriced.

posted on 21/6/19

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
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You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?

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Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.

I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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Sorry mate, but my life is a bit more about the burqa, and Tories trying to get brownie points for constantly talking about it.

posted on 21/6/19

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 17 seconds ago
I love the way the Tories keep bringing up how Johnson won two Mayor of London elections, that was like nearly 10 years ago, and a lot has changed, and the second time he barely scrapped past Ken Livingstone, who was way past his sell buy date. He was an awful mayor anyway, he wasted so much money on bridges that never opened, buses that never ran, an Olympic Stadium that is still costing the taxpayers millions and other madcap schemes that never got off the ground. He was totally and utterly useless as Mayor of London contrary to the nonsense currently being peddled by the Tory media.
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I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy. If I had a pound for everytime I've heard somebody bleating on about 350mil on the side of a bus or letterboxes in recent months I'd be a very rich man.
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It was a central plank of the Leave Campaign, the bus was wheeled out without fail every single day. Now if you are not going to believe or take any notice of that, then why should the vote of three years ago be taken seriously, when it is obvious that there is no plan for delivery, and never has been. The whole Brexit shambles was just to please the extreme right wing of the Tory Party, and three years on, it is still that internal fight in the Tory Party that is at the centre of everything.
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According to Dominic Cummings (VL campaign director) their polling data, (the largest ever in the UK) suggested it was the determining factor which swung the vote.

The public’s impassioned affection for the NHS, and the pledge/possibility of additional funding was certainty persuasive. Albeit completely untrue.

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