comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
Tessa Jowell delivered the Olympics.
Tories trying to ride on the coattails
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Apparently Johnson also delivered Crossrail, you know the rail project that is years behind and billions overpriced.
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comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
=============================
You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?
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Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.
I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 17 seconds ago
I love the way the Tories keep bringing up how Johnson won two Mayor of London elections, that was like nearly 10 years ago, and a lot has changed, and the second time he barely scrapped past Ken Livingstone, who was way past his sell buy date. He was an awful mayor anyway, he wasted so much money on bridges that never opened, buses that never ran, an Olympic Stadium that is still costing the taxpayers millions and other madcap schemes that never got off the ground. He was totally and utterly useless as Mayor of London contrary to the nonsense currently being peddled by the Tory media.
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I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy. If I had a pound for everytime I've heard somebody bleating on about 350mil on the side of a bus or letterboxes in recent months I'd be a very rich man.
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It was a central plank of the Leave Campaign, the bus was wheeled out without fail every single day. Now if you are not going to believe or take any notice of that, then why should the vote of three years ago be taken seriously, when it is obvious that there is no plan for delivery, and never has been. The whole Brexit shambles was just to please the extreme right wing of the Tory Party, and three years on, it is still that internal fight in the Tory Party that is at the centre of everything.
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UKIPs results in the 2014 European vote sealed the deal for the EU ref.
People go on about the bus but conveniently forget that the bottom was supposed to drop out the economy the day after the ref if we voted leave with the loss of 800k jobs.
That was a much bigger lie.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
=============================
You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?
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Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.
I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
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No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.
Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 17 seconds ago
I love the way the Tories keep bringing up how Johnson won two Mayor of London elections, that was like nearly 10 years ago, and a lot has changed, and the second time he barely scrapped past Ken Livingstone, who was way past his sell buy date. He was an awful mayor anyway, he wasted so much money on bridges that never opened, buses that never ran, an Olympic Stadium that is still costing the taxpayers millions and other madcap schemes that never got off the ground. He was totally and utterly useless as Mayor of London contrary to the nonsense currently being peddled by the Tory media.
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I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy. If I had a pound for everytime I've heard somebody bleating on about 350mil on the side of a bus or letterboxes in recent months I'd be a very rich man.
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It was a central plank of the Leave Campaign, the bus was wheeled out without fail every single day. Now if you are not going to believe or take any notice of that, then why should the vote of three years ago be taken seriously, when it is obvious that there is no plan for delivery, and never has been. The whole Brexit shambles was just to please the extreme right wing of the Tory Party, and three years on, it is still that internal fight in the Tory Party that is at the centre of everything.
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UKIPs results in the 2014 European vote sealed the deal for the EU ref.
People go on about the bus but conveniently forget that the bottom was supposed to drop out the economy the day after the ref if we voted leave with the loss of 800k jobs.
That was a much bigger lie.
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The UK economy is between 1%/1.5% smaller than it would have been since the Brexit vote, with a loss of around a quarter of a million jobs.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 17 seconds ago
I love the way the Tories keep bringing up how Johnson won two Mayor of London elections, that was like nearly 10 years ago, and a lot has changed, and the second time he barely scrapped past Ken Livingstone, who was way past his sell buy date. He was an awful mayor anyway, he wasted so much money on bridges that never opened, buses that never ran, an Olympic Stadium that is still costing the taxpayers millions and other madcap schemes that never got off the ground. He was totally and utterly useless as Mayor of London contrary to the nonsense currently being peddled by the Tory media.
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I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy. If I had a pound for everytime I've heard somebody bleating on about 350mil on the side of a bus or letterboxes in recent months I'd be a very rich man.
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It was a central plank of the Leave Campaign, the bus was wheeled out without fail every single day. Now if you are not going to believe or take any notice of that, then why should the vote of three years ago be taken seriously, when it is obvious that there is no plan for delivery, and never has been. The whole Brexit shambles was just to please the extreme right wing of the Tory Party, and three years on, it is still that internal fight in the Tory Party that is at the centre of everything.
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UKIPs results in the 2014 European vote sealed the deal for the EU ref.
People go on about the bus but conveniently forget that the bottom was supposed to drop out the economy the day after the ref if we voted leave with the loss of 800k jobs.
That was a much bigger lie.
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The UK economy is between 1%/1.5% smaller than it would have been since the Brexit vote, with a loss of around a quarter of a million jobs.
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You obviously still listen to the so called experts.
I don't remember a quarter of a million jobs coming off the figures?
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 17 seconds ago
I love the way the Tories keep bringing up how Johnson won two Mayor of London elections, that was like nearly 10 years ago, and a lot has changed, and the second time he barely scrapped past Ken Livingstone, who was way past his sell buy date. He was an awful mayor anyway, he wasted so much money on bridges that never opened, buses that never ran, an Olympic Stadium that is still costing the taxpayers millions and other madcap schemes that never got off the ground. He was totally and utterly useless as Mayor of London contrary to the nonsense currently being peddled by the Tory media.
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I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy. If I had a pound for everytime I've heard somebody bleating on about 350mil on the side of a bus or letterboxes in recent months I'd be a very rich man.
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It was a central plank of the Leave Campaign, the bus was wheeled out without fail every single day. Now if you are not going to believe or take any notice of that, then why should the vote of three years ago be taken seriously, when it is obvious that there is no plan for delivery, and never has been. The whole Brexit shambles was just to please the extreme right wing of the Tory Party, and three years on, it is still that internal fight in the Tory Party that is at the centre of everything.
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UKIPs results in the 2014 European vote sealed the deal for the EU ref.
People go on about the bus but conveniently forget that the bottom was supposed to drop out the economy the day after the ref if we voted leave with the loss of 800k jobs.
That was a much bigger lie.
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The UK economy is between 1%/1.5% smaller than it would have been since the Brexit vote, with a loss of around a quarter of a million jobs.
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You obviously still listen to the so called experts.
I don't remember a quarter of a million jobs coming off the figures?
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https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2019/03/22/uk-economy-since-the-brexit-vote-slower-gdp-growth-lower-productivity-and-a-weaker-pound/
https://smallbusinessprices.co.uk/brexit-index/
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
=============================
You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?
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Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.
I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
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No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.
Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
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We can't even let women in bruka's speak for themselves. We decide for them that it's oppressive and we decide that their husband must be like that as they wear the burka.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
=============================
You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?
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Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.
I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
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No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.
Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
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So they should dress how YOU want them to? Got it.
I honestly don't get how people think Boris is the right person to go to Brussels and get a deal?
We are deffo not going to get any deals and we'll probably get kicked out with nothing and Boris will just disappear on his bike, smiling all the way to the Bank because some stupid Banker will give a not executive role somewhere
The rest of us will be screwed
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
=============================
You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?
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Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.
I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
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No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.
Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
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So they should dress how YOU want them to? Got it.
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No, how they want to.
How can you keep missing the point so badly?
Do you tell your partner how to dress and thats why you're defending it?
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
=============================
You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?
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Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.
I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
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No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.
Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
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We can't even let women in bruka's speak for themselves. We decide for them that it's oppressive and we decide that their husband must be like that as they wear the burka.
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Again missing the point so badly, they can't speak for themselves.
Why do you defend bullying?
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
=============================
You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.
I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
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No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.
Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
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We can't even let women in bruka's speak for themselves. We decide for them that it's oppressive and we decide that their husband must be like that as they wear the burka.
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Really how others dress or what they believe in is nobody's business but the person themselves
But with Burka which has a veil on it, as with a balaclava, if you can't see the face of a person, visually the most identifying part of that person, then as a security operative, I should have the right to ask the person to take down their veil so an identification could be made?
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
=============================
You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.
I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
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No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.
Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
----------
We can't even let women in bruka's speak for themselves. We decide for them that it's oppressive and we decide that their husband must be like that as they wear the burka.
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Again missing the point so badly, they can't speak for themselves.
Why do you defend bullying?
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I didn't miss the point.
Who says they can't speak for themselves when there have been those who HAVE spoken for themselves?
How is letting the woman decide to wear it or not defending bullying?
Are you saying that only women forced to wear it should be defended but women forced not to should be ignored?
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comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 2 minutes ago
Really how others dress or what they believe in is nobody's business but the person themselves
But with Burka which has a veil on it, as with a balaclava, if you can't see the face of a person, visually the most identifying part of that person, then as a security operative, I should have the right to ask the person to take down their veil so an identification could be made?
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There ARE exceptions such as security (such as the example you stated) and medical reasons. I don't think I'm arguing against that. I doubt most are.
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
=============================
You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.
I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
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No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.
Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
----------
We can't even let women in bruka's speak for themselves. We decide for them that it's oppressive and we decide that their husband must be like that as they wear the burka.
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Again missing the point so badly, they can't speak for themselves.
Why do you defend bullying?
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I didn't miss the point.
Who says they can't speak for themselves when there have been those who HAVE spoken for themselves?
How is letting the woman decide to wear it or not defending bullying?
Are you saying that only women forced to wear it should be defended but women forced not to should be ignored?
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comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 2 minutes ago
Really how others dress or what they believe in is nobody's business but the person themselves
But with Burka which has a veil on it, as with a balaclava, if you can't see the face of a person, visually the most identifying part of that person, then as a security operative, I should have the right to ask the person to take down their veil so an identification could be made?
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There ARE exceptions such as security (such as the example you stated) and medical reasons. I don't think I'm arguing against that. I doubt most are.
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Typical, men complain when women hide their body parts but no man even complained about the mini-skirt?
Are we born hypocrites?
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posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
=============================
You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.
I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
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No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.
Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
----------
We can't even let women in bruka's speak for themselves. We decide for them that it's oppressive and we decide that their husband must be like that as they wear the burka.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Again missing the point so badly, they can't speak for themselves.
Why do you defend bullying?
----
I didn't miss the point.
Who says they can't speak for themselves when there have been those who HAVE spoken for themselves?
How is letting the woman decide to wear it or not defending bullying?
Are you saying that only women forced to wear it should be defended but women forced not to should be ignored?
==============
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 2 minutes ago
Really how others dress or what they believe in is nobody's business but the person themselves
But with Burka which has a veil on it, as with a balaclava, if you can't see the face of a person, visually the most identifying part of that person, then as a security operative, I should have the right to ask the person to take down their veil so an identification could be made?
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There ARE exceptions such as security (such as the example you stated) and medical reasons. I don't think I'm arguing against that. I doubt most are.
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Typical, men complain when women hide their body parts but no man even complained about the mini-skirt?
Are we born hypocrites?
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No, some men just think it’s ok to control women. That’s what it’s really about.
There are instances where that is the case and there are instances where that isn't.
I can understand when people are against what Iran and Saudi do. I can understand when people against what certain European nations have done (in the opposite manner). In both cases those are taking away the rights of women to choose how they dress. In one instance you could say its men and power. The other is to do with race and power.
You can't say you support women's choice in one instance and take it away in another. You would be a hypocrite.
This just in....And folks, it's a CONservative MP
A by-election will be held in Brecon and Radnorshire after 10,005 people signed a petition to remove the constituency's Conservative MP, Chris Davies.
From https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-48720176
CONservative living up to the name
Boris would be proud.
Never trust a Tory.
Self-servatives.
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 21 hours, 41 minutes ago
“Boris Johnson is the ultimate proof that Britain is depressingly far from a meritocracy. His is the ultimate proof that, even if you are incompetent, dishonest and morally vacuous, the highest post in the land can be yours as long as you come from the right class”.
Read that the other day and wholeheartedly agree. I despise the man.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWIUp19bBoA
If you look at the accusations labelled at Corbyn, like anitsemitism, and compare that with thieving and fraud, by the conservative party, there is definite media bias to make it sound like Corbyn should be hanged beacuse he is a bad man!
Whereas the opposition get away with being incompetent, frauds and the like.
It's ok to be Richard Turpin these days?
What makes me sick is the fact a party can elect a prime minister without people's vote, just because we have the "party gets elected and not individual" policy?
I think the people should decided who should run as a PM?
In current situation which is farcical to say the least, the people can do nothing while a bumbling fool gets to run the country?
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posted on 21/6/19
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
Tessa Jowell delivered the Olympics.
Tories trying to ride on the coattails
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Apparently Johnson also delivered Crossrail, you know the rail project that is years behind and billions overpriced.
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posted on 21/6/19
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
=============================
You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.
I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
posted on 21/6/19
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 17 seconds ago
I love the way the Tories keep bringing up how Johnson won two Mayor of London elections, that was like nearly 10 years ago, and a lot has changed, and the second time he barely scrapped past Ken Livingstone, who was way past his sell buy date. He was an awful mayor anyway, he wasted so much money on bridges that never opened, buses that never ran, an Olympic Stadium that is still costing the taxpayers millions and other madcap schemes that never got off the ground. He was totally and utterly useless as Mayor of London contrary to the nonsense currently being peddled by the Tory media.
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I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy. If I had a pound for everytime I've heard somebody bleating on about 350mil on the side of a bus or letterboxes in recent months I'd be a very rich man.
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It was a central plank of the Leave Campaign, the bus was wheeled out without fail every single day. Now if you are not going to believe or take any notice of that, then why should the vote of three years ago be taken seriously, when it is obvious that there is no plan for delivery, and never has been. The whole Brexit shambles was just to please the extreme right wing of the Tory Party, and three years on, it is still that internal fight in the Tory Party that is at the centre of everything.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
UKIPs results in the 2014 European vote sealed the deal for the EU ref.
People go on about the bus but conveniently forget that the bottom was supposed to drop out the economy the day after the ref if we voted leave with the loss of 800k jobs.
That was a much bigger lie.
posted on 21/6/19
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
=============================
You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.
I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
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No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.
Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
posted on 21/6/19
Coercive*
posted on 21/6/19
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 17 seconds ago
I love the way the Tories keep bringing up how Johnson won two Mayor of London elections, that was like nearly 10 years ago, and a lot has changed, and the second time he barely scrapped past Ken Livingstone, who was way past his sell buy date. He was an awful mayor anyway, he wasted so much money on bridges that never opened, buses that never ran, an Olympic Stadium that is still costing the taxpayers millions and other madcap schemes that never got off the ground. He was totally and utterly useless as Mayor of London contrary to the nonsense currently being peddled by the Tory media.
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I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy. If I had a pound for everytime I've heard somebody bleating on about 350mil on the side of a bus or letterboxes in recent months I'd be a very rich man.
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It was a central plank of the Leave Campaign, the bus was wheeled out without fail every single day. Now if you are not going to believe or take any notice of that, then why should the vote of three years ago be taken seriously, when it is obvious that there is no plan for delivery, and never has been. The whole Brexit shambles was just to please the extreme right wing of the Tory Party, and three years on, it is still that internal fight in the Tory Party that is at the centre of everything.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
UKIPs results in the 2014 European vote sealed the deal for the EU ref.
People go on about the bus but conveniently forget that the bottom was supposed to drop out the economy the day after the ref if we voted leave with the loss of 800k jobs.
That was a much bigger lie.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The UK economy is between 1%/1.5% smaller than it would have been since the Brexit vote, with a loss of around a quarter of a million jobs.
posted on 21/6/19
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 8 minutes ago
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posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 17 seconds ago
I love the way the Tories keep bringing up how Johnson won two Mayor of London elections, that was like nearly 10 years ago, and a lot has changed, and the second time he barely scrapped past Ken Livingstone, who was way past his sell buy date. He was an awful mayor anyway, he wasted so much money on bridges that never opened, buses that never ran, an Olympic Stadium that is still costing the taxpayers millions and other madcap schemes that never got off the ground. He was totally and utterly useless as Mayor of London contrary to the nonsense currently being peddled by the Tory media.
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I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy. If I had a pound for everytime I've heard somebody bleating on about 350mil on the side of a bus or letterboxes in recent months I'd be a very rich man.
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It was a central plank of the Leave Campaign, the bus was wheeled out without fail every single day. Now if you are not going to believe or take any notice of that, then why should the vote of three years ago be taken seriously, when it is obvious that there is no plan for delivery, and never has been. The whole Brexit shambles was just to please the extreme right wing of the Tory Party, and three years on, it is still that internal fight in the Tory Party that is at the centre of everything.
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UKIPs results in the 2014 European vote sealed the deal for the EU ref.
People go on about the bus but conveniently forget that the bottom was supposed to drop out the economy the day after the ref if we voted leave with the loss of 800k jobs.
That was a much bigger lie.
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The UK economy is between 1%/1.5% smaller than it would have been since the Brexit vote, with a loss of around a quarter of a million jobs.
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You obviously still listen to the so called experts.
I don't remember a quarter of a million jobs coming off the figures?
posted on 21/6/19
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 17 seconds ago
I love the way the Tories keep bringing up how Johnson won two Mayor of London elections, that was like nearly 10 years ago, and a lot has changed, and the second time he barely scrapped past Ken Livingstone, who was way past his sell buy date. He was an awful mayor anyway, he wasted so much money on bridges that never opened, buses that never ran, an Olympic Stadium that is still costing the taxpayers millions and other madcap schemes that never got off the ground. He was totally and utterly useless as Mayor of London contrary to the nonsense currently being peddled by the Tory media.
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I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy. If I had a pound for everytime I've heard somebody bleating on about 350mil on the side of a bus or letterboxes in recent months I'd be a very rich man.
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It was a central plank of the Leave Campaign, the bus was wheeled out without fail every single day. Now if you are not going to believe or take any notice of that, then why should the vote of three years ago be taken seriously, when it is obvious that there is no plan for delivery, and never has been. The whole Brexit shambles was just to please the extreme right wing of the Tory Party, and three years on, it is still that internal fight in the Tory Party that is at the centre of everything.
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UKIPs results in the 2014 European vote sealed the deal for the EU ref.
People go on about the bus but conveniently forget that the bottom was supposed to drop out the economy the day after the ref if we voted leave with the loss of 800k jobs.
That was a much bigger lie.
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The UK economy is between 1%/1.5% smaller than it would have been since the Brexit vote, with a loss of around a quarter of a million jobs.
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You obviously still listen to the so called experts.
I don't remember a quarter of a million jobs coming off the figures?
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https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2019/03/22/uk-economy-since-the-brexit-vote-slower-gdp-growth-lower-productivity-and-a-weaker-pound/
https://smallbusinessprices.co.uk/brexit-index/
posted on 21/6/19
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
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You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?
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Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.
I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
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No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.
Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
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We can't even let women in bruka's speak for themselves. We decide for them that it's oppressive and we decide that their husband must be like that as they wear the burka.
posted on 21/6/19
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
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You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?
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Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.
I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
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No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.
Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
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So they should dress how YOU want them to? Got it.
posted on 21/6/19
I honestly don't get how people think Boris is the right person to go to Brussels and get a deal?
We are deffo not going to get any deals and we'll probably get kicked out with nothing and Boris will just disappear on his bike, smiling all the way to the Bank because some stupid Banker will give a not executive role somewhere
The rest of us will be screwed
posted on 21/6/19
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
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You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?
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Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.
I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
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No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.
Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
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So they should dress how YOU want them to? Got it.
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No, how they want to.
How can you keep missing the point so badly?
Do you tell your partner how to dress and thats why you're defending it?
posted on 21/6/19
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
=============================
You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?
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Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.
I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
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No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.
Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
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We can't even let women in bruka's speak for themselves. We decide for them that it's oppressive and we decide that their husband must be like that as they wear the burka.
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Again missing the point so badly, they can't speak for themselves.
Why do you defend bullying?
posted on 21/6/19
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
=============================
You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?
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Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.
I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
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No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.
Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
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We can't even let women in bruka's speak for themselves. We decide for them that it's oppressive and we decide that their husband must be like that as they wear the burka.
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Really how others dress or what they believe in is nobody's business but the person themselves
But with Burka which has a veil on it, as with a balaclava, if you can't see the face of a person, visually the most identifying part of that person, then as a security operative, I should have the right to ask the person to take down their veil so an identification could be made?
posted on 21/6/19
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
=============================
You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?
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Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.
I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
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No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.
Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
----------
We can't even let women in bruka's speak for themselves. We decide for them that it's oppressive and we decide that their husband must be like that as they wear the burka.
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Again missing the point so badly, they can't speak for themselves.
Why do you defend bullying?
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I didn't miss the point.
Who says they can't speak for themselves when there have been those who HAVE spoken for themselves?
How is letting the woman decide to wear it or not defending bullying?
Are you saying that only women forced to wear it should be defended but women forced not to should be ignored?
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comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 2 minutes ago
Really how others dress or what they believe in is nobody's business but the person themselves
But with Burka which has a veil on it, as with a balaclava, if you can't see the face of a person, visually the most identifying part of that person, then as a security operative, I should have the right to ask the person to take down their veil so an identification could be made?
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There ARE exceptions such as security (such as the example you stated) and medical reasons. I don't think I'm arguing against that. I doubt most are.
posted on 21/6/19
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
=============================
You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.
I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.
Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
----------
We can't even let women in bruka's speak for themselves. We decide for them that it's oppressive and we decide that their husband must be like that as they wear the burka.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Again missing the point so badly, they can't speak for themselves.
Why do you defend bullying?
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I didn't miss the point.
Who says they can't speak for themselves when there have been those who HAVE spoken for themselves?
How is letting the woman decide to wear it or not defending bullying?
Are you saying that only women forced to wear it should be defended but women forced not to should be ignored?
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comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 2 minutes ago
Really how others dress or what they believe in is nobody's business but the person themselves
But with Burka which has a veil on it, as with a balaclava, if you can't see the face of a person, visually the most identifying part of that person, then as a security operative, I should have the right to ask the person to take down their veil so an identification could be made?
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There ARE exceptions such as security (such as the example you stated) and medical reasons. I don't think I'm arguing against that. I doubt most are.
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Typical, men complain when women hide their body parts but no man even complained about the mini-skirt?
Are we born hypocrites?
posted on 21/6/19
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
=============================
You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.
I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.
Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
----------
We can't even let women in bruka's speak for themselves. We decide for them that it's oppressive and we decide that their husband must be like that as they wear the burka.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Again missing the point so badly, they can't speak for themselves.
Why do you defend bullying?
----
I didn't miss the point.
Who says they can't speak for themselves when there have been those who HAVE spoken for themselves?
How is letting the woman decide to wear it or not defending bullying?
Are you saying that only women forced to wear it should be defended but women forced not to should be ignored?
==============
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 2 minutes ago
Really how others dress or what they believe in is nobody's business but the person themselves
But with Burka which has a veil on it, as with a balaclava, if you can't see the face of a person, visually the most identifying part of that person, then as a security operative, I should have the right to ask the person to take down their veil so an identification could be made?
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There ARE exceptions such as security (such as the example you stated) and medical reasons. I don't think I'm arguing against that. I doubt most are.
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Typical, men complain when women hide their body parts but no man even complained about the mini-skirt?
Are we born hypocrites?
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No, some men just think it’s ok to control women. That’s what it’s really about.
posted on 21/6/19
There are instances where that is the case and there are instances where that isn't.
I can understand when people are against what Iran and Saudi do. I can understand when people against what certain European nations have done (in the opposite manner). In both cases those are taking away the rights of women to choose how they dress. In one instance you could say its men and power. The other is to do with race and power.
You can't say you support women's choice in one instance and take it away in another. You would be a hypocrite.
posted on 21/6/19
This just in....And folks, it's a CONservative MP
A by-election will be held in Brecon and Radnorshire after 10,005 people signed a petition to remove the constituency's Conservative MP, Chris Davies.
From https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-48720176
CONservative living up to the name
Boris would be proud.
posted on 21/6/19
Never trust a Tory.
Self-servatives.
posted on 21/6/19
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 21 hours, 41 minutes ago
“Boris Johnson is the ultimate proof that Britain is depressingly far from a meritocracy. His is the ultimate proof that, even if you are incompetent, dishonest and morally vacuous, the highest post in the land can be yours as long as you come from the right class”.
Read that the other day and wholeheartedly agree. I despise the man.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWIUp19bBoA
posted on 21/6/19
If you look at the accusations labelled at Corbyn, like anitsemitism, and compare that with thieving and fraud, by the conservative party, there is definite media bias to make it sound like Corbyn should be hanged beacuse he is a bad man!
Whereas the opposition get away with being incompetent, frauds and the like.
It's ok to be Richard Turpin these days?
posted on 21/6/19
What makes me sick is the fact a party can elect a prime minister without people's vote, just because we have the "party gets elected and not individual" policy?
I think the people should decided who should run as a PM?
In current situation which is farcical to say the least, the people can do nothing while a bumbling fool gets to run the country?
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