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posted on 23/7/19

Who are these starving and homeless that the left always talk about?

First, studies have shown that the Right donates more to charities than the Left.
Second, every British citizen is guaranteed a basic weekly income if they fall on hard times.
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Fml

comment by mancini (U7179)

posted on 23/7/19

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posted 19 minutes ago
comment by ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†Allison Chains๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ† (U3979)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†Allison Chains๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ† (U3979)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Yes let's cut tax for the rich
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£80k in London is not rich ffs
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Tell that to the starving and homeless. You're so naive it's nauseating.
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Tell that to the people working 12 hour days in London unable to live in anything other than a bedsit.

£80k rich
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Of course it is.

If you earn £80k, you’re in the 95th percentile of one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

You’re literally in the top one percent of earners worldwide.

When I was earning that sort of money I could’ve had an absolutely ridiculous lifestyle if I’d wanted.

Earning £80k you’re rich literally anywhere in the world, you clown.
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Being rich is relative though.
£80k in London is not rich. But outside of London, then that's another story.

However, if the govt policy puts more money into the pocket of the individual, it usually ends up boosting the economy. So I don't see why anyone should be against this. Unless of course, that person is jealous of those who earn that sort of wages.

posted on 23/7/19

comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Who are these starving and homeless that the left always talk about?

First, studies have shown that the Right donates more to charities than the Left.
Second, every British citizen is guaranteed a basic weekly income if they fall on hard times.
============

Fml
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posted on 23/7/19

comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 22 seconds ago
Anyone planning to vote for him when the election rolls around in a few months
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I voted for him in the leadership election ๐Ÿ‘

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Is that just because you want to guarantee leaving by October 31st or do you actually rate him as a politician?
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Both
A vibrant leader is just what we need
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What is it about him exactly that you find to be vibrant and why do you think that's something we need?
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We’ve had an array of grey nondescript leaders since the warmonger/peace envoy left Downing St
Boris is anything but and has the personality and drive to get Brexit over the line,deal or no deal

It might not surprise you to know I was a Thatcher fan ๐Ÿ‘

posted on 23/7/19

Would you also describe Margaret Thatcher as vibrant?

posted on 23/7/19

comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†Allison Chains๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ† (U3979)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†Allison Chains๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ† (U3979)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Yes let's cut tax for the rich
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£80k in London is not rich ffs
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Tell that to the starving and homeless. You're so naive it's nauseating.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell that to the people working 12 hour days in London unable to live in anything other than a bedsit.

£80k rich
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course it is.

If you earn £80k, you’re in the 95th percentile of one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

You’re literally in the top one percent of earners worldwide.

When I was earning that sort of money I could’ve had an absolutely ridiculous lifestyle if I’d wanted.

Earning £80k you’re rich literally anywhere in the world, you clown.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Being rich is relative though.
£80k in London is not rich. But outside of London, then that's another story.

However, if the govt policy puts more money into the pocket of the individual, it usually ends up boosting the economy. So I don't see why anyone should be against this. Unless of course, that person is jealous of those who earn that sort of wages.
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Yay. The trickle down effect.

comment by mancini (U7179)

posted on 23/7/19

comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
One of my least favourite things about Brexit is that EU payments were regulatly made to impoverished parts of the North and Wales than London doesnt give a shiiiiiiiit about which makes the Welsh vote even perplexing.
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Maybe we can ask our MPs to get a legislation through parliament which should guarantee continuous funding for these regions as agreed with the EU after Brexit. Surely, this is more ideal than trying to wreck Brexit altogether.

posted on 23/7/19

comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 14 seconds ago
Would you also describe Margaret Thatcher as vibrant?
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No she’s dead

posted on 23/7/19

comment by Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 14 seconds ago
Would you also describe Margaret Thatcher as vibrant?
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No she’s dead
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Fair enough

How are you expecting Boris to get Brexit over the line? You think he's gonna go back to the WA or do you think he's going to try and get a no deal through parliament?

comment by mancini (U7179)

posted on 23/7/19

comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†Allison Chains๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ† (U3979)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†Allison Chains๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ† (U3979)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Yes let's cut tax for the rich
----------------------------------------------------------------------
£80k in London is not rich ffs
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Tell that to the starving and homeless. You're so naive it's nauseating.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell that to the people working 12 hour days in London unable to live in anything other than a bedsit.

£80k rich
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course it is.

If you earn £80k, you’re in the 95th percentile of one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

You’re literally in the top one percent of earners worldwide.

When I was earning that sort of money I could’ve had an absolutely ridiculous lifestyle if I’d wanted.

Earning £80k you’re rich literally anywhere in the world, you clown.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Being rich is relative though.
£80k in London is not rich. But outside of London, then that's another story.

However, if the govt policy puts more money into the pocket of the individual, it usually ends up boosting the economy. So I don't see why anyone should be against this. Unless of course, that person is jealous of those who earn that sort of wages.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yay. The trickle down effect.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Let me explain how it works:

If people keep more of their earnings, it usually boosts spending which increases investment. Then demand for goods and services increases which in turn increases demand for labour which then increases tax collected by the government.

Is this your definition of "trickle down"?

comment by mancini (U7179)

posted on 23/7/19

comment by Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 22 seconds ago
Anyone planning to vote for him when the election rolls around in a few months
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I voted for him in the leadership election ๐Ÿ‘

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is that just because you want to guarantee leaving by October 31st or do you actually rate him as a politician?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Both
A vibrant leader is just what we need
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What is it about him exactly that you find to be vibrant and why do you think that's something we need?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We’ve had an array of grey nondescript leaders since the warmonger/peace envoy left Downing St
Boris is anything but and has the personality and drive to get Brexit over the line,deal or no deal

It might not surprise you to know I was a Thatcher fan ๐Ÿ‘
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Same here.
And I voted for Boris too.

posted on 23/7/19

comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 47 minutes ago
Mancini

How is a no-deal in any way sustainable? And how long would it take to negotiate a FTA (from a position of absolute desperation) with the EU?

And when UKrep sit down with their EU counterparts in the midst of a recession, food and water shortages, civil unrest, and a significantly weaker pound etc etc. do you know the three things the EU will demand to be settled in return before they would open talks?

Financial settlement, citizens’ rights, and the Irish border.

So much has been discussed about no deal with very little detail or insight, which is reflective of the wider Brexit debate.
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You seem to know much about the inne workings of the EU. We had no drinking water before 1975.

And Britain will not survive without the EU. Wao.
This is how condescending you view this country.
Sad.
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The majority of impact assessments (no deal) I've read were from the UK government. You know the ones they tried to stop getting out?

https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-8547

See also in regard to food.

https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2019/07/19/Warning-on-Brexit-food-shortages-as-industry-hardest-hit-by-no-deal

In regard to water, water companies started stockpiling chemicals that are used to purify drinking water some time ago. As this BBC article refers to.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-47298682

Stocks will not last indefinitely and like in countless other sectors resources will be impacted. Especially perishables with a short shelf life.

Like radiopharmacy isotopes which are used to treat cancer patients:

https://www.sor.org/news/no-deal-brexit-advice-radiopharmacy-and-nuclear-medicine-services

I guess it really boils down to do you listen and learn from the sectors and businesses impacted, or dismiss all of their concerns out of hand?

posted on 23/7/19

comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†Allison Chains๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ† (U3979)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†Allison Chains๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ† (U3979)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Yes let's cut tax for the rich
----------------------------------------------------------------------
£80k in London is not rich ffs
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Tell that to the starving and homeless. You're so naive it's nauseating.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell that to the people working 12 hour days in London unable to live in anything other than a bedsit.

£80k rich
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course it is.

If you earn £80k, you’re in the 95th percentile of one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

You’re literally in the top one percent of earners worldwide.

When I was earning that sort of money I could’ve had an absolutely ridiculous lifestyle if I’d wanted.

Earning £80k you’re rich literally anywhere in the world, you clown.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Being rich is relative though.
£80k in London is not rich. But outside of London, then that's another story.

However, if the govt policy puts more money into the pocket of the individual, it usually ends up boosting the economy. So I don't see why anyone should be against this. Unless of course, that person is jealous of those who earn that sort of wages.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yay. The trickle down effect.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Let me explain how it works:

If people keep more of their earnings, it usually boosts spending which increases investment. Then demand for goods and services increases which in turn increases demand for labour which then increases tax collected by the government.

Is this your definition of "trickle down"?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

No my definition is rich toffs spinning further tax breaks for high earners as a good thing for the people.

comment by mancini (U7179)

posted on 23/7/19

comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 14 seconds ago
Would you also describe Margaret Thatcher as vibrant?
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No she’s dead
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fair enough

How are you expecting Boris to get Brexit over the line? You think he's gonna go back to the WA or do you think he's going to try and get a no deal through parliament?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The choice facing Conservative MPs now is clear.
Back Boris or face the threat of losing your seat at the next GE.

Boris just have to be brave now that he has received the backing of grassroot members.

posted on 23/7/19

comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 14 seconds ago
Would you also describe Margaret Thatcher as vibrant?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No she’s dead
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fair enough

How are you expecting Boris to get Brexit over the line? You think he's gonna go back to the WA or do you think he's going to try and get a no deal through parliament?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The choice facing Conservative MPs now is clear.
Back Boris or face the threat of losing your seat at the next GE.

Boris just have to be brave now that he has received the backing of grassroot members.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes but what is it that they're backing boris up on? The WA or a no deal situation?

comment by mancini (U7179)

posted on 23/7/19

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 47 minutes ago
Mancini

How is a no-deal in any way sustainable? And how long would it take to negotiate a FTA (from a position of absolute desperation) with the EU?

And when UKrep sit down with their EU counterparts in the midst of a recession, food and water shortages, civil unrest, and a significantly weaker pound etc etc. do you know the three things the EU will demand to be settled in return before they would open talks?

Financial settlement, citizens’ rights, and the Irish border.

So much has been discussed about no deal with very little detail or insight, which is reflective of the wider Brexit debate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You seem to know much about the inne workings of the EU. We had no drinking water before 1975.

And Britain will not survive without the EU. Wao.
This is how condescending you view this country.
Sad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The majority of impact assessments (no deal) I've read were from the UK government. You know the ones they tried to stop getting out?

https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-8547

See also in regard to food.

https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2019/07/19/Warning-on-Brexit-food-shortages-as-industry-hardest-hit-by-no-deal

In regard to water, water companies started stockpiling chemicals that are used to purify drinking water some time ago. As this BBC article refers to.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-47298682

Stocks will not last indefinitely and like in countless other sectors resources will be impacted. Especially perishables with a short shelf life.

Like radiopharmacy isotopes which are used to treat cancer patients:

https://www.sor.org/news/no-deal-brexit-advice-radiopharmacy-and-nuclear-medicine-services

I guess it really boils down to do you listen and learn from the sectors and businesses impacted, or dismiss all of their concerns out of hand?
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So how do countries outside the EU survive then? Especially with regards to water purification?

One thing I'm sure of is that problems in society is often an opportunity for business to thrive.

All these issues you mentioned would have been scoped by some smart people across the country and plans are going to be put in place to take the opportunity that comes with Brexit. Something the Remainers often overlook.

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posted on 23/7/19

comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 34 seconds ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†Allison Chains๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ† (U3979)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by ๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†Allison Chains๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ† (U3979)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Yes let's cut tax for the rich
----------------------------------------------------------------------
£80k in London is not rich ffs
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Tell that to the starving and homeless. You're so naive it's nauseating.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell that to the people working 12 hour days in London unable to live in anything other than a bedsit.

£80k rich
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course it is.

If you earn £80k, you’re in the 95th percentile of one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

You’re literally in the top one percent of earners worldwide.

When I was earning that sort of money I could’ve had an absolutely ridiculous lifestyle if I’d wanted.

Earning £80k you’re rich literally anywhere in the world, you clown.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Being rich is relative though.
£80k in London is not rich. But outside of London, then that's another story.

However, if the govt policy puts more money into the pocket of the individual, it usually ends up boosting the economy. So I don't see why anyone should be against this. Unless of course, that person is jealous of those who earn that sort of wages.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yay. The trickle down effect.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Let me explain how it works:

If people keep more of their earnings, it usually boosts spending which increases investment. Then demand for goods and services increases which in turn increases demand for labour which then increases tax collected by the government.

Is this your definition of "trickle down"?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

No my definition is rich toffs spinning further tax breaks for high earners as a good thing for the people.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is a good thing if you're prepared to work hard.
A labourer deserves his wages and all that.

posted on 23/7/19

All I keep seeing from Mancini is what he hopes will happen and that "people" will have things in place. Absolutely nothing tangible whatsoever just some hope.

I have more faith in Jedi's

comment by mancini (U7179)

posted on 23/7/19

comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 14 seconds ago
Would you also describe Margaret Thatcher as vibrant?
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No she’s dead
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fair enough

How are you expecting Boris to get Brexit over the line? You think he's gonna go back to the WA or do you think he's going to try and get a no deal through parliament?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The choice facing Conservative MPs now is clear.
Back Boris or face the threat of losing your seat at the next GE.

Boris just have to be brave now that he has received the backing of grassroot members.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes but what is it that they're backing boris up on? The WA or a no deal situation?
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Free trade deal. That's what the majority wants.
But if the EU refuses and insists on the WA, then Boris should go for no deal.

posted on 23/7/19

Mancini

You didn’t explain how Boris is going to deliver Brexit. Can you paint a picture for us please?

posted on 23/7/19

comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
Mancini

You didn’t explain how Boris is going to deliver Brexit. Can you paint a picture for us please?
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I thought it was with a high level of optimism?

posted on 23/7/19

It is a good thing if you're prepared to work hard.
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You are clueless. There is less social mobility than ever in the past 200 years. Working hard has little to do with it and with education yet again becoming the privilage of the rich this will get worse. I work in recruitment and have worked on various government employment contracts and youre simply wrong. How the fvck can the top 1% double their wealth during austerity? Youre deluding yourself.0

Tories have done well with apprenticeships and thats about it.

comment by mancini (U7179)

posted on 23/7/19

comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
All I keep seeing from Mancini is what he hopes will happen and that "people" will have things in place. Absolutely nothing tangible whatsoever just some hope.

I have more faith in Jedi's
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I have seen lots of evidence across various sectors of the economy to convince me that the British people are already 2 steps ahead of the Brexit curve. Unless you want to believe in the Remain propaganda machine.

Remember they told us 800k job losses simply by voting leave?

Paris & Frankfurt have also recently accepted that they over estimated the number of businesses that was going to relocate because of Brexit.

Next, if Boris delivers Brexit, many people are going to be surprised at how resilient this country is.

posted on 23/7/19

comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
All I keep seeing from Mancini is what he hopes will happen and that "people" will have things in place. Absolutely nothing tangible whatsoever just some hope.

I have more faith in Jedi's
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I have seen lots of evidence across various sectors of the economy to convince me that the British people are already 2 steps ahead of the Brexit curve. Unless you want to believe in the Remain propaganda machine.

Remember they told us 800k job losses simply by voting leave?

Paris & Frankfurt have also recently accepted that they over estimated the number of businesses that was going to relocate because of Brexit.

Next, if Boris delivers Brexit, many people are going to be surprised at how resilient this country is.
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CBI report just published has shown a record fall in investment figures over the last quarter.

NIESR has also just published a report stating we’re headed for recession.

comment by mancini (U7179)

posted on 23/7/19

comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
Mancini

You didn’t explain how Boris is going to deliver Brexit. Can you paint a picture for us please?
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I don't know how he plans to deliver it.
But at least we now have someone who is prepared to walk away if the EU refuse to negotiate.

Also, for the past 3 years, only our politicians have been under pressure to deliver Brexit.
As October 31 draws near, I expect to start hearing noises from Belgium, Germany and France.

And if the MPs stop Boris, then they will be replaced by the Brexit party.

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