comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
Mancini, you left out the freedom to eat chlorinated chicken and throwing off the chains of having the power to resist corporate control of our healthcare system.
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Have you been to the States? Did you eat their chicken?
And how about your tap water? must have poisoned you badly these many years becuase it contains chlorine as well.
You just regurgitate what you hear politicians say without doing any basic research of your own.
Next you will tell us how Boris plans to sell the NHS.
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Mancini, the USA has less stringent standards in food safety, environmental regulations, etc. No one is saying you eat American food and drop dead. What I will say is that very few people will vote to reduce our standards, not least because they look at the level of nutrition and public health in the States and see things are better under EU regulations. In a post-Brexit scenario though, we'll be under immense pressure to conclude a trade deal with the USA, and this will require shared regulatory rules, just as we currently have with the EU. The difference is that UK voters have an influence over EU regulations, through our government's seat in the Council of Ministers and our direct election of MEPs to the European parliament; regulations can be amended in time due through this combination of direct and indirect democratic input. By contrast, in a bilateral trade deal the larger party gets to largely dictate terms to the smaller one, and the US will want access to key markets like food and healthcare; why would such a deal be valuable to the States unless it meant breaking down barriers such as food standards and the NHS's ability to use its centralised procurement to reduce drug prices? Once concluded, our parliament can't legislate to protect our markets (so much for sovereignty, eh?).
If you dig around enough, you find that a lot of the leading patriotic Brexiteers (like Fox and Patel) have been fairly open about what drove their anti-EU agenda from the start: it is all about enabling radical deregulation of the economy and realignment with the USA. That's actually a respectable intellectual position to take up, if you want to defend it. However, it's not the main argument the Leave campaigns made during the referendum debates, because it doesn't imply reducing immigration or 'taking back control', which proved to be the most significant vote winners. Radical deregulation is unpopular with the voters and if this agenda succeeds, the backlash will be fierce.
comment by 🏆🏆🏆Allison Chains🏆🏆🏆 (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 29 seconds ago
Red Russian
There is no real way to make everyone happy. I believe in low taxes and keeping more of what you earn. So I will always be for that.
I did vote remain but it’s quite obvious we are leaving and likely with no deal and all you can do is get on with it. Unfortunately some people will suffer more than others but this is life and the best help I can think of is individual charity which is what I believe in.
Everyone has their own views of course but these are mine
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"get on with it"
The standard tragic British mentality of refusing to stand up and say no when you're being driven off a cliff.
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You're in good hands with Boris.
There will be no cliff edge departure.
But we are leaving come Oct.31.
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
“It’s the arrogance. It’s the contempt. That’s what gets me. It’s Gordon Brown’s apparent belief that he can just trample on the democratic will of the British people. It’s at moments like this that I think the political world has gone mad, and I am alone in detecting the gigantic fraud. The extraordinary thing is that it looks as though he will now be in 10 Downing Street for three years, and without a mandate from the British people. No one elected Gordon Brown as Prime Minister”
Boris Johnson - 2007
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this is getting really desperate now.
Digging out comments made by someone more than 10 years ago.
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It's wholly relevant.
What's desperate is listing being able to over fish at will from already over fished stocks as a positive of this monumental fvck up in your top ten positives.
Still waiting for a single positive as it stands btw.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 7 minutes ago
But for God's sake, stop treating us as if this country is run by dumb people. If you can be this knowledgeable, then assume other in government have similar knowledge too and will take steps to address this.
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And the people in government who have been grappling with Brexit for the last three years have told us that No Deal has to be avoided at all costs and that May's deal was the best they could manage while trying to meet the hard Brexit demands of their party base. Meanwhile, the projections of civil servants - 'the clever people in government' who have been working on the detail and crunching the numbers are dismissed as 'defeatists' and 'Europhiles' by Brexit ideologues.
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You'll get May's deal if you take no deal off the table.
But if the threat of no deal is staring the EU in the face, both sides will make some compromise and negotiate a sensible trade deal.
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Exactly right. Removing no deal and a movable deadline just shows us as being weak and desperate for a deal, which is exactly why the EU will not budge one inch.
Even if Boris doesnt 100% mean we'll leave on 31st Oct, you have to make that stand, you have to threaten it to total surety. He has the crazy sort of personality that makes you believe he will go through with it, which may see some compromise from the EU.
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EU member states have read the UKgovs no deal preparedness notices too.
So unless there is a strong desire from the UKgov to inflict ruin on the country, (plus breach their commitments to the GFA) they will either plead for and extension, (to cater for a GE) revoke the a50 notice, or attempt to get the WA though parliament.
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or leave with no deal.
just thought i should add that.
What is wrong with asking the people if they want to leave with no deal?
comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
And in the opposite corner we have Jeremy Corbyn, these are the politicians that we deserve. People that put the party before it’s country time and time again.
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Someone with an outstanding record of human rights, anti-racism and anti-war activism? Someone who has repeatedly spoken out against the concentrations of private wealth and capital, breaking up the corporate media, championing the causes of ordinary people and opposing other systemic injustices? Someone who has consistently opposed the UK's blood-soaked regime change wars, arms deals and anti-democratic foreign policy? Yes please. Such an opportunity rarely occurs in any country - especially powerful countries like the UK - which is exactly why there's been an enormous, relentless backlash designed to destroy the movement behind him from the Blairites, Tories, media, Civil Service & MOD, in one form or another.
To even compare him and his record to the likes of Johnson and the other careerist, elitist, warmongering, neoliberal, pro-austerity, pro-deregulation, pro-privatisation, status quo loving parliamentarians says everything about how good of a number our media class have done on the population's collective understanding of the issues we face and who will best represent the population.
Of course, if anyone believes the garbage aimed at Corbyn already, then it's probably too late for you. Studies consistently show that humans are terrible at changing their minds, even when presented with overwhelming evidence that to do so would be in their financial interests! (See work by Palminteri for eg).
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
And in the opposite corner we have Jeremy Corbyn, these are the politicians that we deserve. People that put the party before it’s country time and time again.
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Someone with an outstanding record of human rights, anti-racism and anti-war activism? Someone who has repeatedly spoken out against the concentrations of private wealth and capital, breaking up the corporate media, championing the causes of ordinary people and opposing other systemic injustices? Someone who has consistently opposed the UK's blood-soaked regime change wars, arms deals and anti-democratic foreign policy? Yes please. Such an opportunity rarely occurs in any country - especially powerful countries like the UK - which is exactly why there's been an enormous, relentless backlash designed to destroy the movement behind him from the Blairites, Tories, media, Civil Service & MOD, in one form or another.
To even compare him and his record to the likes of Johnson and the other careerist, elitist, warmongering, neoliberal, pro-austerity, pro-deregulation, pro-privatisation, status quo loving parliamentarians says everything about how good of a number our media class have done on the population's collective understanding of the issues we face and who will best represent the population.
Of course, if anyone believes the garbage aimed at Corbyn already, then it's probably too late for you. Studies consistently show that humans are terrible at changing their minds, even when presented with overwhelming evidence that to do so would be in their financial interests! (See work by Palminteri for eg).
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Mancini
How is a no-deal in any way sustainable? And how long would it take to negotiate a FTA (from a position of absolute desperation) with the EU?
And when UKrep sit down with their EU counterparts in the midst of a recession, food and water shortages, civil unrest, and a significantly weaker pound etc etc. do you know the three things the EU will demand to be settled in return before they would open talks?
Financial settlement, citizens’ rights, and the Irish border.
So much has been discussed about no deal with very little detail or insight, which is reflective of the wider Brexit debate.
Boris is a Russian agent anyway. Were facked.
Are you seriously suggesting that PM is a stepping stone
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Yes, because he will go on to earn far more money after being PM. In terms of prestige this might be the pinnacle of his career, but in terms of material gain this'll open a lot of doors for him.
You can't possibly be naive enough to think that he isn't going to act in the interests of those who've financially backed his election campaigns?
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
And in the opposite corner we have Jeremy Corbyn, these are the politicians that we deserve. People that put the party before it’s country time and time again.
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Someone with an outstanding record of human rights, anti-racism and anti-war activism? Someone who has repeatedly spoken out against the concentrations of private wealth and capital, breaking up the corporate media, championing the causes of ordinary people and opposing other systemic injustices? Someone who has consistently opposed the UK's blood-soaked regime change wars, arms deals and anti-democratic foreign policy? Yes please. Such an opportunity rarely occurs in any country - especially powerful countries like the UK - which is exactly why there's been an enormous, relentless backlash designed to destroy the movement behind him from the Blairites, Tories, media, Civil Service & MOD, in one form or another.
To even compare him and his record to the likes of Johnson and the other careerist, elitist, warmongering, neoliberal, pro-austerity, pro-deregulation, pro-privatisation, status quo loving parliamentarians says everything about how good of a number our media class have done on the population's collective understanding of the issues we face and who will best represent the population.
Of course, if anyone believes the garbage aimed at Corbyn already, then it's probably too late for you. Studies consistently show that humans are terrible at changing their minds, even when presented with overwhelming evidence that to do so would be in their financial interests! (See work by Palminteri for eg).
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Yet a totally pathetic opposition leader.
In terms of prestige this might be the pinnacle of his career, but in terms of material gain this'll open a lot of doors for him.
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If he totally effs it up it will see them shut firmly in his face.
Of course, if anyone believes the garbage aimed at Corbyn already
....................
Something is making him undetectable. He has been unable to topple May for gods sake and she epitomises incompetence.
What do you think that might be?
If Blair can become a peace envoy for the middle east I think it's pretty clear anyone can succeed after being PM.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 42 seconds ago
Of course, if anyone believes the garbage aimed at Corbyn already
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Something is making him undetectable. He has been unable to topple May for gods sake and she epitomises incompetence.
What do you think that might be?
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Idiots lapping up propaganda.
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
And in the opposite corner we have Jeremy Corbyn, these are the politicians that we deserve. People that put the party before it’s country time and time again.
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Someone with an outstanding record of human rights, anti-racism and anti-war activism? Someone who has repeatedly spoken out against the concentrations of private wealth and capital, breaking up the corporate media, championing the causes of ordinary people and opposing other systemic injustices? Someone who has consistently opposed the UK's blood-soaked regime change wars, arms deals and anti-democratic foreign policy? Yes please. Such an opportunity rarely occurs in any country - especially powerful countries like the UK - which is exactly why there's been an enormous, relentless backlash designed to destroy the movement behind him from the Blairites, Tories, media, Civil Service & MOD, in one form or another.
To even compare him and his record to the likes of Johnson and the other careerist, elitist, warmongering, neoliberal, pro-austerity, pro-deregulation, pro-privatisation, status quo loving parliamentarians says everything about how good of a number our media class have done on the population's collective understanding of the issues we face and who will best represent the population.
Of course, if anyone believes the garbage aimed at Corbyn already, then it's probably too late for you. Studies consistently show that humans are terrible at changing their minds, even when presented with overwhelming evidence that to do so would be in their financial interests! (See work by Palminteri for eg).
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A dreamer and nothing more than a professional protester.
I don't think it's a dream to not want to sell guns that kill kids.
If Blair can become a peace envoy for the middle east
...................
What idiot came up with that masterstroke.
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think it's a dream to not want to sell guns that kill kids.
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Picky picky picky
Idiots lapping up propaganda.
...............
There has to be more to it than that. If there isn't the Labour party are very inept.
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
I don't think it's a dream to not want to sell guns that kill kids.
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Probably would support it if the kids were British.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 6 seconds ago
Idiots lapping up propaganda.
...............
There has to be more to it than that. If there isn't the Labour party are very inept.
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Doesn't help his own party sabotaging themselves to keep themselves out of power.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 11 seconds ago
Idiots lapping up propaganda.
...............
There has to be more to it than that. If there isn't the Labour party are very inept.
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It was a massive swing despite a huge media campaign to denigrate him. It is that. The media is hugely powerful and oddly enough most papers are run by Tory donors.
Take Corbyn being pictured with IR A members years ago.
He's a fvcking pascifist ffs
The anti smite stuff is equally laughable but morons lap it up and don't vote.
comment by 🏆🏆🏆Allison Chains🏆🏆🏆 (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
I don't think it's a dream to not want to sell guns that kill kids.
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Probably would support it if the kids were British.
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Shut up. You voted for these shysters.
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posted on 23/7/19
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
Mancini, you left out the freedom to eat chlorinated chicken and throwing off the chains of having the power to resist corporate control of our healthcare system.
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Have you been to the States? Did you eat their chicken?
And how about your tap water? must have poisoned you badly these many years becuase it contains chlorine as well.
You just regurgitate what you hear politicians say without doing any basic research of your own.
Next you will tell us how Boris plans to sell the NHS.
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Mancini, the USA has less stringent standards in food safety, environmental regulations, etc. No one is saying you eat American food and drop dead. What I will say is that very few people will vote to reduce our standards, not least because they look at the level of nutrition and public health in the States and see things are better under EU regulations. In a post-Brexit scenario though, we'll be under immense pressure to conclude a trade deal with the USA, and this will require shared regulatory rules, just as we currently have with the EU. The difference is that UK voters have an influence over EU regulations, through our government's seat in the Council of Ministers and our direct election of MEPs to the European parliament; regulations can be amended in time due through this combination of direct and indirect democratic input. By contrast, in a bilateral trade deal the larger party gets to largely dictate terms to the smaller one, and the US will want access to key markets like food and healthcare; why would such a deal be valuable to the States unless it meant breaking down barriers such as food standards and the NHS's ability to use its centralised procurement to reduce drug prices? Once concluded, our parliament can't legislate to protect our markets (so much for sovereignty, eh?).
If you dig around enough, you find that a lot of the leading patriotic Brexiteers (like Fox and Patel) have been fairly open about what drove their anti-EU agenda from the start: it is all about enabling radical deregulation of the economy and realignment with the USA. That's actually a respectable intellectual position to take up, if you want to defend it. However, it's not the main argument the Leave campaigns made during the referendum debates, because it doesn't imply reducing immigration or 'taking back control', which proved to be the most significant vote winners. Radical deregulation is unpopular with the voters and if this agenda succeeds, the backlash will be fierce.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by 🏆🏆🏆Allison Chains🏆🏆🏆 (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 29 seconds ago
Red Russian
There is no real way to make everyone happy. I believe in low taxes and keeping more of what you earn. So I will always be for that.
I did vote remain but it’s quite obvious we are leaving and likely with no deal and all you can do is get on with it. Unfortunately some people will suffer more than others but this is life and the best help I can think of is individual charity which is what I believe in.
Everyone has their own views of course but these are mine
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"get on with it"
The standard tragic British mentality of refusing to stand up and say no when you're being driven off a cliff.
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You're in good hands with Boris.
There will be no cliff edge departure.
But we are leaving come Oct.31.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
“It’s the arrogance. It’s the contempt. That’s what gets me. It’s Gordon Brown’s apparent belief that he can just trample on the democratic will of the British people. It’s at moments like this that I think the political world has gone mad, and I am alone in detecting the gigantic fraud. The extraordinary thing is that it looks as though he will now be in 10 Downing Street for three years, and without a mandate from the British people. No one elected Gordon Brown as Prime Minister”
Boris Johnson - 2007
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this is getting really desperate now.
Digging out comments made by someone more than 10 years ago.
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It's wholly relevant.
What's desperate is listing being able to over fish at will from already over fished stocks as a positive of this monumental fvck up in your top ten positives.
Still waiting for a single positive as it stands btw.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 7 minutes ago
But for God's sake, stop treating us as if this country is run by dumb people. If you can be this knowledgeable, then assume other in government have similar knowledge too and will take steps to address this.
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And the people in government who have been grappling with Brexit for the last three years have told us that No Deal has to be avoided at all costs and that May's deal was the best they could manage while trying to meet the hard Brexit demands of their party base. Meanwhile, the projections of civil servants - 'the clever people in government' who have been working on the detail and crunching the numbers are dismissed as 'defeatists' and 'Europhiles' by Brexit ideologues.
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You'll get May's deal if you take no deal off the table.
But if the threat of no deal is staring the EU in the face, both sides will make some compromise and negotiate a sensible trade deal.
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Exactly right. Removing no deal and a movable deadline just shows us as being weak and desperate for a deal, which is exactly why the EU will not budge one inch.
Even if Boris doesnt 100% mean we'll leave on 31st Oct, you have to make that stand, you have to threaten it to total surety. He has the crazy sort of personality that makes you believe he will go through with it, which may see some compromise from the EU.
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EU member states have read the UKgovs no deal preparedness notices too.
So unless there is a strong desire from the UKgov to inflict ruin on the country, (plus breach their commitments to the GFA) they will either plead for and extension, (to cater for a GE) revoke the a50 notice, or attempt to get the WA though parliament.
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or leave with no deal.
just thought i should add that.
posted on 23/7/19
What is wrong with asking the people if they want to leave with no deal?
posted on 23/7/19
comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
And in the opposite corner we have Jeremy Corbyn, these are the politicians that we deserve. People that put the party before it’s country time and time again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Someone with an outstanding record of human rights, anti-racism and anti-war activism? Someone who has repeatedly spoken out against the concentrations of private wealth and capital, breaking up the corporate media, championing the causes of ordinary people and opposing other systemic injustices? Someone who has consistently opposed the UK's blood-soaked regime change wars, arms deals and anti-democratic foreign policy? Yes please. Such an opportunity rarely occurs in any country - especially powerful countries like the UK - which is exactly why there's been an enormous, relentless backlash designed to destroy the movement behind him from the Blairites, Tories, media, Civil Service & MOD, in one form or another.
To even compare him and his record to the likes of Johnson and the other careerist, elitist, warmongering, neoliberal, pro-austerity, pro-deregulation, pro-privatisation, status quo loving parliamentarians says everything about how good of a number our media class have done on the population's collective understanding of the issues we face and who will best represent the population.
Of course, if anyone believes the garbage aimed at Corbyn already, then it's probably too late for you. Studies consistently show that humans are terrible at changing their minds, even when presented with overwhelming evidence that to do so would be in their financial interests! (See work by Palminteri for eg).
posted on 23/7/19
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
And in the opposite corner we have Jeremy Corbyn, these are the politicians that we deserve. People that put the party before it’s country time and time again.
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Someone with an outstanding record of human rights, anti-racism and anti-war activism? Someone who has repeatedly spoken out against the concentrations of private wealth and capital, breaking up the corporate media, championing the causes of ordinary people and opposing other systemic injustices? Someone who has consistently opposed the UK's blood-soaked regime change wars, arms deals and anti-democratic foreign policy? Yes please. Such an opportunity rarely occurs in any country - especially powerful countries like the UK - which is exactly why there's been an enormous, relentless backlash designed to destroy the movement behind him from the Blairites, Tories, media, Civil Service & MOD, in one form or another.
To even compare him and his record to the likes of Johnson and the other careerist, elitist, warmongering, neoliberal, pro-austerity, pro-deregulation, pro-privatisation, status quo loving parliamentarians says everything about how good of a number our media class have done on the population's collective understanding of the issues we face and who will best represent the population.
Of course, if anyone believes the garbage aimed at Corbyn already, then it's probably too late for you. Studies consistently show that humans are terrible at changing their minds, even when presented with overwhelming evidence that to do so would be in their financial interests! (See work by Palminteri for eg).
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posted on 23/7/19
Mancini
How is a no-deal in any way sustainable? And how long would it take to negotiate a FTA (from a position of absolute desperation) with the EU?
And when UKrep sit down with their EU counterparts in the midst of a recession, food and water shortages, civil unrest, and a significantly weaker pound etc etc. do you know the three things the EU will demand to be settled in return before they would open talks?
Financial settlement, citizens’ rights, and the Irish border.
So much has been discussed about no deal with very little detail or insight, which is reflective of the wider Brexit debate.
posted on 23/7/19
Boris is a Russian agent anyway. Were facked.
posted on 23/7/19
Are you seriously suggesting that PM is a stepping stone
-
Yes, because he will go on to earn far more money after being PM. In terms of prestige this might be the pinnacle of his career, but in terms of material gain this'll open a lot of doors for him.
You can't possibly be naive enough to think that he isn't going to act in the interests of those who've financially backed his election campaigns?
posted on 23/7/19
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
And in the opposite corner we have Jeremy Corbyn, these are the politicians that we deserve. People that put the party before it’s country time and time again.
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Someone with an outstanding record of human rights, anti-racism and anti-war activism? Someone who has repeatedly spoken out against the concentrations of private wealth and capital, breaking up the corporate media, championing the causes of ordinary people and opposing other systemic injustices? Someone who has consistently opposed the UK's blood-soaked regime change wars, arms deals and anti-democratic foreign policy? Yes please. Such an opportunity rarely occurs in any country - especially powerful countries like the UK - which is exactly why there's been an enormous, relentless backlash designed to destroy the movement behind him from the Blairites, Tories, media, Civil Service & MOD, in one form or another.
To even compare him and his record to the likes of Johnson and the other careerist, elitist, warmongering, neoliberal, pro-austerity, pro-deregulation, pro-privatisation, status quo loving parliamentarians says everything about how good of a number our media class have done on the population's collective understanding of the issues we face and who will best represent the population.
Of course, if anyone believes the garbage aimed at Corbyn already, then it's probably too late for you. Studies consistently show that humans are terrible at changing their minds, even when presented with overwhelming evidence that to do so would be in their financial interests! (See work by Palminteri for eg).
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Yet a totally pathetic opposition leader.
posted on 23/7/19
In terms of prestige this might be the pinnacle of his career, but in terms of material gain this'll open a lot of doors for him.
................
If he totally effs it up it will see them shut firmly in his face.
posted on 23/7/19
Of course, if anyone believes the garbage aimed at Corbyn already
....................
Something is making him undetectable. He has been unable to topple May for gods sake and she epitomises incompetence.
What do you think that might be?
posted on 23/7/19
If Blair can become a peace envoy for the middle east I think it's pretty clear anyone can succeed after being PM.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 42 seconds ago
Of course, if anyone believes the garbage aimed at Corbyn already
....................
Something is making him undetectable. He has been unable to topple May for gods sake and she epitomises incompetence.
What do you think that might be?
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Idiots lapping up propaganda.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
And in the opposite corner we have Jeremy Corbyn, these are the politicians that we deserve. People that put the party before it’s country time and time again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Someone with an outstanding record of human rights, anti-racism and anti-war activism? Someone who has repeatedly spoken out against the concentrations of private wealth and capital, breaking up the corporate media, championing the causes of ordinary people and opposing other systemic injustices? Someone who has consistently opposed the UK's blood-soaked regime change wars, arms deals and anti-democratic foreign policy? Yes please. Such an opportunity rarely occurs in any country - especially powerful countries like the UK - which is exactly why there's been an enormous, relentless backlash designed to destroy the movement behind him from the Blairites, Tories, media, Civil Service & MOD, in one form or another.
To even compare him and his record to the likes of Johnson and the other careerist, elitist, warmongering, neoliberal, pro-austerity, pro-deregulation, pro-privatisation, status quo loving parliamentarians says everything about how good of a number our media class have done on the population's collective understanding of the issues we face and who will best represent the population.
Of course, if anyone believes the garbage aimed at Corbyn already, then it's probably too late for you. Studies consistently show that humans are terrible at changing their minds, even when presented with overwhelming evidence that to do so would be in their financial interests! (See work by Palminteri for eg).
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A dreamer and nothing more than a professional protester.
posted on 23/7/19
I don't think it's a dream to not want to sell guns that kill kids.
posted on 23/7/19
If Blair can become a peace envoy for the middle east
...................
What idiot came up with that masterstroke.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think it's a dream to not want to sell guns that kill kids.
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Picky picky picky
posted on 23/7/19
LAUK
posted on 23/7/19
Idiots lapping up propaganda.
...............
There has to be more to it than that. If there isn't the Labour party are very inept.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
I don't think it's a dream to not want to sell guns that kill kids.
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Probably would support it if the kids were British.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 6 seconds ago
Idiots lapping up propaganda.
...............
There has to be more to it than that. If there isn't the Labour party are very inept.
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Doesn't help his own party sabotaging themselves to keep themselves out of power.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 11 seconds ago
Idiots lapping up propaganda.
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There has to be more to it than that. If there isn't the Labour party are very inept.
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It was a massive swing despite a huge media campaign to denigrate him. It is that. The media is hugely powerful and oddly enough most papers are run by Tory donors.
Take Corbyn being pictured with IR A members years ago.
He's a fvcking pascifist ffs
The anti smite stuff is equally laughable but morons lap it up and don't vote.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by 🏆🏆🏆Allison Chains🏆🏆🏆 (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
I don't think it's a dream to not want to sell guns that kill kids.
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Probably would support it if the kids were British.
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Shut up. You voted for these shysters.
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