Look we'll be fine. Nothing a bit of elbow grease and blitz sprit won't sort out.
No, in the UK's darkest days (WW2) we relied on help and mutual cooperation with our allies.
..............
Depends on when you define the darkest days. The Battle of Britain was pretty much just the RAF with a bit of help from Canada.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
You do realise no Brexiteer is against trading with the EU?
What we are generally against is the political union.
Even Merkel acknowledged this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why the necessity to leave the sm and cu? What tangible benefits are there in downgrading our trading relationship with the EU and the wider global economy?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because immigrants.
Parliament will pass legislation preventing that happening though, without a doubt.
...........
Will they? Best they get cracking.
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 47 minutes ago
Mancini
How is a no-deal in any way sustainable? And how long would it take to negotiate a FTA (from a position of absolute desperation) with the EU?
And when UKrep sit down with their EU counterparts in the midst of a recession, food and water shortages, civil unrest, and a significantly weaker pound etc etc. do you know the three things the EU will demand to be settled in return before they would open talks?
Financial settlement, citizens’ rights, and the Irish border.
So much has been discussed about no deal with very little detail or insight, which is reflective of the wider Brexit debate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You seem to know much about the inne workings of the EU. We had no drinking water before 1975.
And Britain will not survive without the EU. Wao.
This is how condescending you view this country.
Sad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The majority of impact assessments (no deal) I've read were from the UK government. You know the ones they tried to stop getting out?
https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-8547
See also in regard to food.
https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2019/07/19/Warning-on-Brexit-food-shortages-as-industry-hardest-hit-by-no-deal
In regard to water, water companies started stockpiling chemicals that are used to purify drinking water some time ago. As this BBC article refers to.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-47298682
Stocks will not last indefinitely and like in countless other sectors resources will be impacted. Especially perishables with a short shelf life.
Like radiopharmacy isotopes which are used to treat cancer patients:
https://www.sor.org/news/no-deal-brexit-advice-radiopharmacy-and-nuclear-medicine-services
I guess it really boils down to do you listen and learn from the sectors and businesses impacted, or dismiss all of their concerns out of hand?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So how do countries outside the EU survive then? Especially with regards to water purification?
One thing I'm sure of is that problems in society is often an opportunity for business to thrive.
All these issues you mentioned would have been scoped by some smart people across the country and plans are going to be put in place to take the opportunity that comes with Brexit. Something the Remainers often overlook.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Like the mafia during prohibition
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
You do realise no Brexiteer is against trading with the EU?
What we are generally against is the political union.
Even Merkel acknowledged this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why the necessity to leave the sm and cu? What tangible benefits are there in downgrading our trading relationship with the EU and the wider global economy?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The SM & CU comes with the 4 freedoms.
A simple trade deal does not have that.
And the UK benefits the least from the SM out of the EU 28. This is according to the EU 2017 data
There's going to be recession within 2 years whether we leave the Eu with a deal or not
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 54 seconds ago
No, in the UK's darkest days (WW2) we relied on help and mutual cooperation with our allies.
..............
Depends on when you define the darkest days. The Battle of Britain was pretty much just the RAF with a bit of help from Canada.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And a host of pilots from various other countries around the world.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain
Have we really got to the stage whereby Brexit is being compared to a war. What happened to "no downsides only considerable upsides" ?
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 54 seconds ago
No, in the UK's darkest days (WW2) we relied on help and mutual cooperation with our allies.
..............
Depends on when you define the darkest days. The Battle of Britain was pretty much just the RAF with a bit of help from Canada.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And a host of pilots from various other countries around the world.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain
Have we really got to the stage whereby Brexit is being compared to a war. What happened to "no downsides only considerable upsides" ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
All decisions in life have both upside and downsides including remaining in the EU.
All the best to Boris Johnstone as Prime Minister from a big Man Utd fan
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 9 minutes ago
Look we'll be fine. Nothing a bit of elbow grease and blitz sprit won't sort out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Won’t get too much of that from Jez’s mob
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
You do realise no Brexiteer is against trading with the EU?
What we are generally against is the political union.
Even Merkel acknowledged this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why the necessity to leave the sm and cu? What tangible benefits are there in downgrading our trading relationship with the EU and the wider global economy?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The SM & CU comes with the 4 freedoms.
A simple trade deal does not have that.
And the UK benefits the least from the SM out of the EU 28. This is according to the EU 2017 data
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, the four freedoms only apply to the SM.
Can you provide me with the data? As the main reason the UK government (under Thatcher) created the SM was to cater for the UK moving towards a more serviced based economy.
It's one of the main reasons why multinationals from China, Japan, US etc choose to invest in the UK because it is geographically on the doorstep of Europe.
And was how the UKs DTI advertised the UK for decades.
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many of these countries do the UK benefit from EU membership? And how many preferential trade agreements will be grandfathered?
------------------------------------------------
Don't know exact numbers yet. But rest assured countries have been queuing up to discuss trade with us since the referendum. Even the Japanese minister released a video about his country's willingness to do a deal with us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe they see an opportunity to make more out of a trade deal directly with the UK as opoosed to having to settle for less when dealing with a large body like the EU.
Your earlier commemt about spirit etc. Ties into this, the idea that some British people have of Brittan as this all conquering nation people are in awe of. It's not true mate.
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
One of my least favourite things about Brexit is that EU payments were regulatly made to impoverished parts of the North and Wales than London doesnt give a shiiiiiiiit about which makes the Welsh vote even perplexing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That'll forever remain a question I'll ask.
One theory is that the older generation, particularly those who moved into Wales because of cheap housing, voted Brexit.
As for wages I'd rather raise the tax threshold significantly than raise the upper rate threshold to £80k. Give people who have less some more money and I thonk they're more likely to spend it locally in cafes, bars, shops etc. It would make a real difference to them IMO.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many of these countries do the UK benefit from EU membership? And how many preferential trade agreements will be grandfathered?
------------------------------------------------
Don't know exact numbers yet. But rest assured countries have been queuing up to discuss trade with us since the referendum. Even the Japanese minister released a video about his country's willingness to do a deal with us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe they see an opportunity to make more out of a trade deal directly with the UK as opoosed to having to settle for less when dealing with a large body like the EU.
Your earlier commemt about spirit etc. Ties into this, the idea that some British people have of Brittan as this all conquering nation people are in awe of. It's not true mate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Countries want a trade deal that works in their favour. We have a far less strong hand than we had as part of the biggest trading block on the planet.
Think we were come out on top in a trade deal with the US?! Dont be daft.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many of these countries do the UK benefit from EU membership? And how many preferential trade agreements will be grandfathered?
------------------------------------------------
Don't know exact numbers yet. But rest assured countries have been queuing up to discuss trade with us since the referendum. Even the Japanese minister released a video about his country's willingness to do a deal with us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe they see an opportunity to make more out of a trade deal directly with the UK as opoosed to having to settle for less when dealing with a large body like the EU.
Your earlier commemt about spirit etc. Ties into this, the idea that some British people have of Brittan as this all conquering nation people are in awe of. It's not true mate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
100% Countries are queuing up to address the imbalance of services (UK being a specialist in this sector) without the protection of the EU.
And they will be looking for significant concessions from the UK (as Fox has discovered). Most notably Visas for their citizens.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many of these countries do the UK benefit from EU membership? And how many preferential trade agreements will be grandfathered?
------------------------------------------------
Don't know exact numbers yet. But rest assured countries have been queuing up to discuss trade with us since the referendum. Even the Japanese minister released a video about his country's willingness to do a deal with us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe they see an opportunity to make more out of a trade deal directly with the UK as opoosed to having to settle for less when dealing with a large body like the EU.
Your earlier commemt about spirit etc. Ties into this, the idea that some British people have of Brittan as this all conquering nation people are in awe of. It's not true mate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Delusions of empire.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many of these countries do the UK benefit from EU membership? And how many preferential trade agreements will be grandfathered?
------------------------------------------------
Don't know exact numbers yet. But rest assured countries have been queuing up to discuss trade with us since the referendum. Even the Japanese minister released a video about his country's willingness to do a deal with us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe they see an opportunity to make more out of a trade deal directly with the UK as opoosed to having to settle for less when dealing with a large body like the EU.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Would of thought so. I’m sure we’ll see the true colours of our “special relationship” with the US when they absolutely stiff us in the event of a no deal.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
You do realise no Brexiteer is against trading with the EU?
What we are generally against is the political union.
Even Merkel acknowledged this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why the necessity to leave the sm and cu? What tangible benefits are there in downgrading our trading relationship with the EU and the wider global economy?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The SM & CU comes with the 4 freedoms.
A simple trade deal does not have that.
And the UK benefits the least from the SM out of the EU 28. This is according to the EU 2017 data
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, the four freedoms only apply to the SM.
Can you provide me with the data? As the main reason the UK government (under Thatcher) created the SM was to cater for the UK moving towards a more serviced based economy.
It's one of the main reasons why multinationals from China, Japan, US etc choose to invest in the UK because it is geographically on the doorstep of Europe.
And was how the UKs DTI advertised the UK for decades.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep. I work in the services sector with a big emphasis on exports and (putting any political feelings aside) the thing that greatly concerns us is the end of the Single Market. That's far worse than loss of the Customs Union for us, as we are far more efficient as a business and attractive to non-EU customers as a result of freedom of movement and lack of regulatory barriers. Any trade deal we have with the EU will be inherently worse than what we have.
Right now we can't make plans because it's still unclear what will happen and what reality we have to adapt to. In the case of a no-deal scenario we'll need to at least open an office in the EU, and potentially transfer company registration, HQ and some jobs outside the UK. None of us want this as we are mostly settled and happy where we are.
comment by ๐๐๐Allison Chains๐๐๐ (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many of these countries do the UK benefit from EU membership? And how many preferential trade agreements will be grandfathered?
------------------------------------------------
Don't know exact numbers yet. But rest assured countries have been queuing up to discuss trade with us since the referendum. Even the Japanese minister released a video about his country's willingness to do a deal with us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe they see an opportunity to make more out of a trade deal directly with the UK as opoosed to having to settle for less when dealing with a large body like the EU.
Your earlier commemt about spirit etc. Ties into this, the idea that some British people have of Brittan as this all conquering nation people are in awe of. It's not true mate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Countries want a trade deal that works in their favour. We have a far less strong hand than we had as part of the biggest trading block on the planet.
Think we were come out on top in a trade deal with the US?! Dont be daft.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even if we don't have a trade deal with the US, we are doing pretty well just now. We have a huge trade surplus with the US compared to the huge deficit we have with the EU.
comment by Declan McDaid (U1734)
posted 19 minutes ago
All the best to Boris Johnstone as Prime Minister from a big Man Utd fan
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
To one diickhead from a bigger one!
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 30 minutes ago
Parliament will pass legislation preventing that happening though, without a doubt.
...........
Will they? Best they get cracking.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can be done very quickly.
Trump is delighted.
He’s just said we refer to Boris as “Britain Trump” in the UK
comment by ๐๐๐Allison Chains๐๐๐ (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many of these countries do the UK benefit from EU membership? And how many preferential trade agreements will be grandfathered?
------------------------------------------------
Don't know exact numbers yet. But rest assured countries have been queuing up to discuss trade with us since the referendum. Even the Japanese minister released a video about his country's willingness to do a deal with us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe they see an opportunity to make more out of a trade deal directly with the UK as opoosed to having to settle for less when dealing with a large body like the EU.
Your earlier commemt about spirit etc. Ties into this, the idea that some British people have of Brittan as this all conquering nation people are in awe of. It's not true mate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Countries want a trade deal that works in their favour. We have a far less strong hand than we had as part of the biggest trading block on the planet.
Think we were come out on top in a trade deal with the US?! Dont be daft.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Access to the UK's market is always a huge consideration when signing a trade deal with the EU. When we leave, the EU becomes less attractive.
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ๐๐๐Allison Chains๐๐๐ (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many of these countries do the UK benefit from EU membership? And how many preferential trade agreements will be grandfathered?
------------------------------------------------
Don't know exact numbers yet. But rest assured countries have been queuing up to discuss trade with us since the referendum. Even the Japanese minister released a video about his country's willingness to do a deal with us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe they see an opportunity to make more out of a trade deal directly with the UK as opoosed to having to settle for less when dealing with a large body like the EU.
Your earlier commemt about spirit etc. Ties into this, the idea that some British people have of Brittan as this all conquering nation people are in awe of. It's not true mate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Countries want a trade deal that works in their favour. We have a far less strong hand than we had as part of the biggest trading block on the planet.
Think we were come out on top in a trade deal with the US?! Dont be daft.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even if we don't have a trade deal with the US, we are doing pretty well just now. We have a huge trade surplus with the US compared to the huge deficit we have with the EU.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're in the EU right now and yiu say you're doing well.
Sign in if you want to comment
The official decline of this country
Page 14 of 17
13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17
posted on 23/7/19
Look we'll be fine. Nothing a bit of elbow grease and blitz sprit won't sort out.
posted on 23/7/19
No, in the UK's darkest days (WW2) we relied on help and mutual cooperation with our allies.
..............
Depends on when you define the darkest days. The Battle of Britain was pretty much just the RAF with a bit of help from Canada.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
You do realise no Brexiteer is against trading with the EU?
What we are generally against is the political union.
Even Merkel acknowledged this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why the necessity to leave the sm and cu? What tangible benefits are there in downgrading our trading relationship with the EU and the wider global economy?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because immigrants.
posted on 23/7/19
Parliament will pass legislation preventing that happening though, without a doubt.
...........
Will they? Best they get cracking.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 47 minutes ago
Mancini
How is a no-deal in any way sustainable? And how long would it take to negotiate a FTA (from a position of absolute desperation) with the EU?
And when UKrep sit down with their EU counterparts in the midst of a recession, food and water shortages, civil unrest, and a significantly weaker pound etc etc. do you know the three things the EU will demand to be settled in return before they would open talks?
Financial settlement, citizens’ rights, and the Irish border.
So much has been discussed about no deal with very little detail or insight, which is reflective of the wider Brexit debate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You seem to know much about the inne workings of the EU. We had no drinking water before 1975.
And Britain will not survive without the EU. Wao.
This is how condescending you view this country.
Sad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The majority of impact assessments (no deal) I've read were from the UK government. You know the ones they tried to stop getting out?
https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-8547
See also in regard to food.
https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2019/07/19/Warning-on-Brexit-food-shortages-as-industry-hardest-hit-by-no-deal
In regard to water, water companies started stockpiling chemicals that are used to purify drinking water some time ago. As this BBC article refers to.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-47298682
Stocks will not last indefinitely and like in countless other sectors resources will be impacted. Especially perishables with a short shelf life.
Like radiopharmacy isotopes which are used to treat cancer patients:
https://www.sor.org/news/no-deal-brexit-advice-radiopharmacy-and-nuclear-medicine-services
I guess it really boils down to do you listen and learn from the sectors and businesses impacted, or dismiss all of their concerns out of hand?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So how do countries outside the EU survive then? Especially with regards to water purification?
One thing I'm sure of is that problems in society is often an opportunity for business to thrive.
All these issues you mentioned would have been scoped by some smart people across the country and plans are going to be put in place to take the opportunity that comes with Brexit. Something the Remainers often overlook.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Like the mafia during prohibition
posted on 23/7/19
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
You do realise no Brexiteer is against trading with the EU?
What we are generally against is the political union.
Even Merkel acknowledged this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why the necessity to leave the sm and cu? What tangible benefits are there in downgrading our trading relationship with the EU and the wider global economy?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The SM & CU comes with the 4 freedoms.
A simple trade deal does not have that.
And the UK benefits the least from the SM out of the EU 28. This is according to the EU 2017 data
posted on 23/7/19
There's going to be recession within 2 years whether we leave the Eu with a deal or not
posted on 23/7/19
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 54 seconds ago
No, in the UK's darkest days (WW2) we relied on help and mutual cooperation with our allies.
..............
Depends on when you define the darkest days. The Battle of Britain was pretty much just the RAF with a bit of help from Canada.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And a host of pilots from various other countries around the world.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain
Have we really got to the stage whereby Brexit is being compared to a war. What happened to "no downsides only considerable upsides" ?
posted on 23/7/19
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 54 seconds ago
No, in the UK's darkest days (WW2) we relied on help and mutual cooperation with our allies.
..............
Depends on when you define the darkest days. The Battle of Britain was pretty much just the RAF with a bit of help from Canada.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And a host of pilots from various other countries around the world.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain
Have we really got to the stage whereby Brexit is being compared to a war. What happened to "no downsides only considerable upsides" ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
All decisions in life have both upside and downsides including remaining in the EU.
posted on 23/7/19
All the best to Boris Johnstone as Prime Minister from a big Man Utd fan
posted on 23/7/19
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 9 minutes ago
Look we'll be fine. Nothing a bit of elbow grease and blitz sprit won't sort out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Won’t get too much of that from Jez’s mob
posted on 23/7/19
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
You do realise no Brexiteer is against trading with the EU?
What we are generally against is the political union.
Even Merkel acknowledged this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why the necessity to leave the sm and cu? What tangible benefits are there in downgrading our trading relationship with the EU and the wider global economy?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The SM & CU comes with the 4 freedoms.
A simple trade deal does not have that.
And the UK benefits the least from the SM out of the EU 28. This is according to the EU 2017 data
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, the four freedoms only apply to the SM.
Can you provide me with the data? As the main reason the UK government (under Thatcher) created the SM was to cater for the UK moving towards a more serviced based economy.
It's one of the main reasons why multinationals from China, Japan, US etc choose to invest in the UK because it is geographically on the doorstep of Europe.
And was how the UKs DTI advertised the UK for decades.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many of these countries do the UK benefit from EU membership? And how many preferential trade agreements will be grandfathered?
------------------------------------------------
Don't know exact numbers yet. But rest assured countries have been queuing up to discuss trade with us since the referendum. Even the Japanese minister released a video about his country's willingness to do a deal with us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe they see an opportunity to make more out of a trade deal directly with the UK as opoosed to having to settle for less when dealing with a large body like the EU.
Your earlier commemt about spirit etc. Ties into this, the idea that some British people have of Brittan as this all conquering nation people are in awe of. It's not true mate.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimate objects since 2017 (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
One of my least favourite things about Brexit is that EU payments were regulatly made to impoverished parts of the North and Wales than London doesnt give a shiiiiiiiit about which makes the Welsh vote even perplexing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That'll forever remain a question I'll ask.
One theory is that the older generation, particularly those who moved into Wales because of cheap housing, voted Brexit.
As for wages I'd rather raise the tax threshold significantly than raise the upper rate threshold to £80k. Give people who have less some more money and I thonk they're more likely to spend it locally in cafes, bars, shops etc. It would make a real difference to them IMO.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many of these countries do the UK benefit from EU membership? And how many preferential trade agreements will be grandfathered?
------------------------------------------------
Don't know exact numbers yet. But rest assured countries have been queuing up to discuss trade with us since the referendum. Even the Japanese minister released a video about his country's willingness to do a deal with us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe they see an opportunity to make more out of a trade deal directly with the UK as opoosed to having to settle for less when dealing with a large body like the EU.
Your earlier commemt about spirit etc. Ties into this, the idea that some British people have of Brittan as this all conquering nation people are in awe of. It's not true mate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Countries want a trade deal that works in their favour. We have a far less strong hand than we had as part of the biggest trading block on the planet.
Think we were come out on top in a trade deal with the US?! Dont be daft.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many of these countries do the UK benefit from EU membership? And how many preferential trade agreements will be grandfathered?
------------------------------------------------
Don't know exact numbers yet. But rest assured countries have been queuing up to discuss trade with us since the referendum. Even the Japanese minister released a video about his country's willingness to do a deal with us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe they see an opportunity to make more out of a trade deal directly with the UK as opoosed to having to settle for less when dealing with a large body like the EU.
Your earlier commemt about spirit etc. Ties into this, the idea that some British people have of Brittan as this all conquering nation people are in awe of. It's not true mate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
100% Countries are queuing up to address the imbalance of services (UK being a specialist in this sector) without the protection of the EU.
And they will be looking for significant concessions from the UK (as Fox has discovered). Most notably Visas for their citizens.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many of these countries do the UK benefit from EU membership? And how many preferential trade agreements will be grandfathered?
------------------------------------------------
Don't know exact numbers yet. But rest assured countries have been queuing up to discuss trade with us since the referendum. Even the Japanese minister released a video about his country's willingness to do a deal with us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe they see an opportunity to make more out of a trade deal directly with the UK as opoosed to having to settle for less when dealing with a large body like the EU.
Your earlier commemt about spirit etc. Ties into this, the idea that some British people have of Brittan as this all conquering nation people are in awe of. It's not true mate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Delusions of empire.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many of these countries do the UK benefit from EU membership? And how many preferential trade agreements will be grandfathered?
------------------------------------------------
Don't know exact numbers yet. But rest assured countries have been queuing up to discuss trade with us since the referendum. Even the Japanese minister released a video about his country's willingness to do a deal with us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe they see an opportunity to make more out of a trade deal directly with the UK as opoosed to having to settle for less when dealing with a large body like the EU.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Would of thought so. I’m sure we’ll see the true colours of our “special relationship” with the US when they absolutely stiff us in the event of a no deal.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
You do realise no Brexiteer is against trading with the EU?
What we are generally against is the political union.
Even Merkel acknowledged this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why the necessity to leave the sm and cu? What tangible benefits are there in downgrading our trading relationship with the EU and the wider global economy?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The SM & CU comes with the 4 freedoms.
A simple trade deal does not have that.
And the UK benefits the least from the SM out of the EU 28. This is according to the EU 2017 data
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, the four freedoms only apply to the SM.
Can you provide me with the data? As the main reason the UK government (under Thatcher) created the SM was to cater for the UK moving towards a more serviced based economy.
It's one of the main reasons why multinationals from China, Japan, US etc choose to invest in the UK because it is geographically on the doorstep of Europe.
And was how the UKs DTI advertised the UK for decades.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep. I work in the services sector with a big emphasis on exports and (putting any political feelings aside) the thing that greatly concerns us is the end of the Single Market. That's far worse than loss of the Customs Union for us, as we are far more efficient as a business and attractive to non-EU customers as a result of freedom of movement and lack of regulatory barriers. Any trade deal we have with the EU will be inherently worse than what we have.
Right now we can't make plans because it's still unclear what will happen and what reality we have to adapt to. In the case of a no-deal scenario we'll need to at least open an office in the EU, and potentially transfer company registration, HQ and some jobs outside the UK. None of us want this as we are mostly settled and happy where we are.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by ๐๐๐Allison Chains๐๐๐ (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many of these countries do the UK benefit from EU membership? And how many preferential trade agreements will be grandfathered?
------------------------------------------------
Don't know exact numbers yet. But rest assured countries have been queuing up to discuss trade with us since the referendum. Even the Japanese minister released a video about his country's willingness to do a deal with us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe they see an opportunity to make more out of a trade deal directly with the UK as opoosed to having to settle for less when dealing with a large body like the EU.
Your earlier commemt about spirit etc. Ties into this, the idea that some British people have of Brittan as this all conquering nation people are in awe of. It's not true mate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Countries want a trade deal that works in their favour. We have a far less strong hand than we had as part of the biggest trading block on the planet.
Think we were come out on top in a trade deal with the US?! Dont be daft.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even if we don't have a trade deal with the US, we are doing pretty well just now. We have a huge trade surplus with the US compared to the huge deficit we have with the EU.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by Declan McDaid (U1734)
posted 19 minutes ago
All the best to Boris Johnstone as Prime Minister from a big Man Utd fan
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
To one diickhead from a bigger one!
posted on 23/7/19
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 30 minutes ago
Parliament will pass legislation preventing that happening though, without a doubt.
...........
Will they? Best they get cracking.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can be done very quickly.
posted on 23/7/19
Trump is delighted.
He’s just said we refer to Boris as “Britain Trump” in the UK
posted on 23/7/19
comment by ๐๐๐Allison Chains๐๐๐ (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many of these countries do the UK benefit from EU membership? And how many preferential trade agreements will be grandfathered?
------------------------------------------------
Don't know exact numbers yet. But rest assured countries have been queuing up to discuss trade with us since the referendum. Even the Japanese minister released a video about his country's willingness to do a deal with us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe they see an opportunity to make more out of a trade deal directly with the UK as opoosed to having to settle for less when dealing with a large body like the EU.
Your earlier commemt about spirit etc. Ties into this, the idea that some British people have of Brittan as this all conquering nation people are in awe of. It's not true mate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Countries want a trade deal that works in their favour. We have a far less strong hand than we had as part of the biggest trading block on the planet.
Think we were come out on top in a trade deal with the US?! Dont be daft.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Access to the UK's market is always a huge consideration when signing a trade deal with the EU. When we leave, the EU becomes less attractive.
posted on 23/7/19
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ๐๐๐Allison Chains๐๐๐ (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many of these countries do the UK benefit from EU membership? And how many preferential trade agreements will be grandfathered?
------------------------------------------------
Don't know exact numbers yet. But rest assured countries have been queuing up to discuss trade with us since the referendum. Even the Japanese minister released a video about his country's willingness to do a deal with us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe they see an opportunity to make more out of a trade deal directly with the UK as opoosed to having to settle for less when dealing with a large body like the EU.
Your earlier commemt about spirit etc. Ties into this, the idea that some British people have of Brittan as this all conquering nation people are in awe of. It's not true mate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Countries want a trade deal that works in their favour. We have a far less strong hand than we had as part of the biggest trading block on the planet.
Think we were come out on top in a trade deal with the US?! Dont be daft.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even if we don't have a trade deal with the US, we are doing pretty well just now. We have a huge trade surplus with the US compared to the huge deficit we have with the EU.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're in the EU right now and yiu say you're doing well.
Page 14 of 17
13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17