comment by You Can't Buy Class (U12019)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 30 seconds ago
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I don’t see how you restart in three weeks when at such a point you still have staff across the clubs, officials, press members, etc. still full of the virus, as well as players at every club developing, dealing with and recovering from symptoms.
You can’t take elite professional sportspeople out of peak training for a month or six weeks and then ask them to play professional fixtures without rebuilding fitness and conditioning first.
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Fair point but in extraordinary circumstances like this - who knows? At the end of the day it would be the same/equal for everyone.
My idea would be to replace pre-season fixtures/friendlies with the remaining games, especially if the EURO's are going to be postponed to 2021.
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The kind of training the players do in preparation for pre-season and during pre-season is completely different to the training they do through the latter parts of seasons. Players are managed differently through and after those games too.
If you have teams battling for European places and to avoid relegation having had a month (or more) out of training then fast-tracked back to fitness when they aren’t conditioned property, then going back straight into full competitive fixtures, then having no break from competition before the start of next season, you’re going to create all kinds of problems: muscle fatigue and wastage, muscle and other soft tissue injuries, issues with recovery times, probably worse bone injuries, etc.
Why does there need to be a euros, just scrap it this time around. If big companies lose money so be it. Also scrap the champions league and Europa league next season as well. All the big boys can survive without playing in Europe for one season.
Confine the entire season to the bins of history. Classify it as a missed season (due to 'an act of god' if you like).
Dependent upon the situation in August/September just continue the 2020/21 from the same position that the 2019/20 would have have started.
Just 'pretend' it never happened.
After all, it's not as if our current greater society - particularly those at the lower end of the socio-economic spectrum - are not capable of accepting greater deceits, illusions and false historiographies in mire important areas of our lives.
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They could just stop the league right now with the three teams going down receiving double or triple the amount they'd receive in parachute bonuses.
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Haven’t read the thread but I’d imagine teams would need close to a whole pre season to start up the league again as fitness levels would drop massively due to relative inactivity
Might be that next season is scrapped entirely and this season is finished later this year leading into a Euros - might be the most sensible option
comment by Bryan ROBBson (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
Haven’t read the thread but I’d imagine teams would need close to a whole pre season to start up the league again as fitness levels would drop massively due to relative inactivity
Might be that next season is scrapped entirely and this season is finished later this year leading into a Euros - might be the most sensible option
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That’d result in a much larger loss in revenue for clubs, sponsors, TV, etc. than binning this season and starting the new season on schedule (if possible) in August.
It’d likely see several, even many, lower league sides in administration.
It wouldn’t be the first time that major sporting leagues/events were cancelled part way through: it happened in 1919 with the Spanish Flu, and it has in recent years in American sports (due to lockouts and protests).
You can’t bin next season off, certainly. That’s not an option.
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
You can’t bin next season off, certainly. That’s not an option.
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Well, it is - do you really think the football season will even be ready to start in august? Let alone what happens with this season?
I wouldn’t even be surprised if the league season became a summer one for a couple of years - fits in with the Qatar World Cup too. So perhaps finish this season later this year and start what would be the 20/21 season in say, March 2021 and gradually work back to a winter league
It may sound inconvenient now but if we’re facing a world where hundreds of thousands of people may die it could be a good solution for a while
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by You Can't Buy Class (U12019)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 30 seconds ago
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I don’t see how you restart in three weeks when at such a point you still have staff across the clubs, officials, press members, etc. still full of the virus, as well as players at every club developing, dealing with and recovering from symptoms.
You can’t take elite professional sportspeople out of peak training for a month or six weeks and then ask them to play professional fixtures without rebuilding fitness and conditioning first.
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Fair point but in extraordinary circumstances like this - who knows? At the end of the day it would be the same/equal for everyone.
My idea would be to replace pre-season fixtures/friendlies with the remaining games, especially if the EURO's are going to be postponed to 2021.
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The kind of training the players do in preparation for pre-season and during pre-season is completely different to the training they do through the latter parts of seasons. Players are managed differently through and after those games too.
If you have teams battling for European places and to avoid relegation having had a month (or more) out of training then fast-tracked back to fitness when they aren’t conditioned property, then going back straight into full competitive fixtures, then having no break from competition before the start of next season, you’re going to create all kinds of problems: muscle fatigue and wastage, muscle and other soft tissue injuries, issues with recovery times, probably worse bone injuries, etc.
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You are not wrong, I am aware of that, they would need a period of time before the usual pre-season to prepare once everyone is healthy again and the pandemic has subsided.
A pre-pre season.
Bin this season off, come back when it's safe to do so and the players are physically ready to.
Play a 19 game PL season/23 game FL season. Let teams carry over half their points total from this abandoned season.
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Blue in the face (U22288)
posted 9 minutes ago
I think they will use the three week delay to test every player and essentially quarantine their squads before they play the final two months of the season in the summer probably behind closed doors and to empty stadiums.
Might be one of the main entertainments used to pacify a population on lockdown during peak virus period.
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It seems fairly obvious to me but I suspect the players will kick off and stop that happening.
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I don’t see how you restart in three weeks when at such a point you still have staff across the clubs, officials, press members, etc. still full of the virus, as well as players at every club developing, dealing with and recovering from symptoms.
You can’t take elite professional sportspeople out of peak training for a month or six weeks and then ask them to play professional fixtures without rebuilding fitness and conditioning first.
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You don't have anyone full of the virus three weeks from now if you quarantine them all
comment by Bryan ROBBson (U22311)
posted 6 minutes ago
I wouldn’t even be surprised if the league season became a summer one for a couple of years - fits in with the Qatar World Cup too. So perhaps finish this season later this year and start what would be the 20/21 season in say, March 2021 and gradually work back to a winter league
It may sound inconvenient now but if we’re facing a world where hundreds of thousands of people may die it could be a good solution for a while
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That would cost literally billions of pounds to do, Robb.
The Premier League alone is a massive, massive industry. You’re talking about wholesale impacts on:
- TV programming *worldwide* (including commissioning and production)
- Other sporting leagues and events *worldwide*
- Other cultural events
- Entire policing programmes
- Security programmes
- Publications
- Specialist travel companies worldwide
- Airlines
- Hotels and restaurants
- Thousands of sponsorship deals, active, yet to be renewed and yet to exist
- An entire food and beverage retail sub industry
That’s just off the top of my head.
I can see this season being declared null and void and wiped from the record books.
It will mean no trophies, and no promotion and relegation this season. Every league will start again next season the same as it started this season.
Also, there will be no European competitions next season, given that qualification is yet to be decided, and the Euros postponed until the following summer.
All prize monies shall be distributed evenly between all this season`s participants in as fair a way as possible.
Levy will be seething at all the lost revenue from having a closed stadium.
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Blue in the face (U22288)
posted 9 minutes ago
I think they will use the three week delay to test every player and essentially quarantine their squads before they play the final two months of the season in the summer probably behind closed doors and to empty stadiums.
Might be one of the main entertainments used to pacify a population on lockdown during peak virus period.
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It seems fairly obvious to me but I suspect the players will kick off and stop that happening.
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I don’t see how you restart in three weeks when at such a point you still have staff across the clubs, officials, press members, etc. still full of the virus, as well as players at every club developing, dealing with and recovering from symptoms.
You can’t take elite professional sportspeople out of peak training for a month or six weeks and then ask them to play professional fixtures without rebuilding fitness and conditioning first.
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You don't have anyone full of the virus three weeks from now if you quarantine them all
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Until they leave quarantine and are again surrounded by people still carrying the virus.
Unless you are talking about a Chinese-style complete lockdown strategy for the entire country for the next six-plus months.
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comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 3 minutes ago
I can see this season being declared null and void and wiped from the record books.
It will mean no trophies, and no promotion and relegation this season. Every league will start again next season the same as it started this season.
Also, there will be no European competitions next season, given that qualification is yet to be decided, and the Euros postponed until the following summer.
All prize monies shall be distributed evenly between all this season`s participants in as fair a way as possible.
Levy will be seething at all the lost revenue from having a closed stadium.
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Seems like the logical way forward. But then the authorities don`t always do logical things.
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comment by Blue in the face (U22288)
posted 1 minute ago
The amount of lawsuits that would happen if this season was just abandoned is too large to imagine.
This season will definitely finish, even if it takes two years.
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Sandy's previous comeback to this was "That's why clubs have insurance."
Genuinely
comment by Blue in the face (U22288)
posted 39 seconds ago
I see all the Spurs fans want the season cancelled. Lol. I can see why. They are crap.
But frankly it is a ludicrous argument. You cant start a new season until the previous one is completed
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Easy, not all Spurs fans are like Sandy
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comment by Blue in the face (U22288)
posted 2 minutes ago
The amount of lawsuits that would happen if this season was just abandoned is too large to imagine.
This season will definitely finish, even if it takes two years.
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You really think lawsuits will be lodged in the face of thousands of deaths, what kind of people would even consider doing that. It is what it is, an act of god and any lawsuit would be thrown out before it even started.
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It will be intriguing if this season does
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posted on 13/3/20
comment by You Can't Buy Class (U12019)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 30 seconds ago
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I don’t see how you restart in three weeks when at such a point you still have staff across the clubs, officials, press members, etc. still full of the virus, as well as players at every club developing, dealing with and recovering from symptoms.
You can’t take elite professional sportspeople out of peak training for a month or six weeks and then ask them to play professional fixtures without rebuilding fitness and conditioning first.
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Fair point but in extraordinary circumstances like this - who knows? At the end of the day it would be the same/equal for everyone.
My idea would be to replace pre-season fixtures/friendlies with the remaining games, especially if the EURO's are going to be postponed to 2021.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The kind of training the players do in preparation for pre-season and during pre-season is completely different to the training they do through the latter parts of seasons. Players are managed differently through and after those games too.
If you have teams battling for European places and to avoid relegation having had a month (or more) out of training then fast-tracked back to fitness when they aren’t conditioned property, then going back straight into full competitive fixtures, then having no break from competition before the start of next season, you’re going to create all kinds of problems: muscle fatigue and wastage, muscle and other soft tissue injuries, issues with recovery times, probably worse bone injuries, etc.
posted on 13/3/20
Why does there need to be a euros, just scrap it this time around. If big companies lose money so be it. Also scrap the champions league and Europa league next season as well. All the big boys can survive without playing in Europe for one season.
posted on 13/3/20
Confine the entire season to the bins of history. Classify it as a missed season (due to 'an act of god' if you like).
Dependent upon the situation in August/September just continue the 2020/21 from the same position that the 2019/20 would have have started.
Just 'pretend' it never happened.
After all, it's not as if our current greater society - particularly those at the lower end of the socio-economic spectrum - are not capable of accepting greater deceits, illusions and false historiographies in mire important areas of our lives.
posted on 13/3/20
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posted on 13/3/20
They could just stop the league right now with the three teams going down receiving double or triple the amount they'd receive in parachute bonuses.
posted on 13/3/20
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posted on 13/3/20
Haven’t read the thread but I’d imagine teams would need close to a whole pre season to start up the league again as fitness levels would drop massively due to relative inactivity
Might be that next season is scrapped entirely and this season is finished later this year leading into a Euros - might be the most sensible option
posted on 13/3/20
comment by Bryan ROBBson (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
Haven’t read the thread but I’d imagine teams would need close to a whole pre season to start up the league again as fitness levels would drop massively due to relative inactivity
Might be that next season is scrapped entirely and this season is finished later this year leading into a Euros - might be the most sensible option
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That’d result in a much larger loss in revenue for clubs, sponsors, TV, etc. than binning this season and starting the new season on schedule (if possible) in August.
It’d likely see several, even many, lower league sides in administration.
It wouldn’t be the first time that major sporting leagues/events were cancelled part way through: it happened in 1919 with the Spanish Flu, and it has in recent years in American sports (due to lockouts and protests).
posted on 13/3/20
You can’t bin next season off, certainly. That’s not an option.
posted on 13/3/20
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
You can’t bin next season off, certainly. That’s not an option.
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Well, it is - do you really think the football season will even be ready to start in august? Let alone what happens with this season?
posted on 13/3/20
I wouldn’t even be surprised if the league season became a summer one for a couple of years - fits in with the Qatar World Cup too. So perhaps finish this season later this year and start what would be the 20/21 season in say, March 2021 and gradually work back to a winter league
It may sound inconvenient now but if we’re facing a world where hundreds of thousands of people may die it could be a good solution for a while
posted on 13/3/20
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by You Can't Buy Class (U12019)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 30 seconds ago
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I don’t see how you restart in three weeks when at such a point you still have staff across the clubs, officials, press members, etc. still full of the virus, as well as players at every club developing, dealing with and recovering from symptoms.
You can’t take elite professional sportspeople out of peak training for a month or six weeks and then ask them to play professional fixtures without rebuilding fitness and conditioning first.
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Fair point but in extraordinary circumstances like this - who knows? At the end of the day it would be the same/equal for everyone.
My idea would be to replace pre-season fixtures/friendlies with the remaining games, especially if the EURO's are going to be postponed to 2021.
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The kind of training the players do in preparation for pre-season and during pre-season is completely different to the training they do through the latter parts of seasons. Players are managed differently through and after those games too.
If you have teams battling for European places and to avoid relegation having had a month (or more) out of training then fast-tracked back to fitness when they aren’t conditioned property, then going back straight into full competitive fixtures, then having no break from competition before the start of next season, you’re going to create all kinds of problems: muscle fatigue and wastage, muscle and other soft tissue injuries, issues with recovery times, probably worse bone injuries, etc.
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You are not wrong, I am aware of that, they would need a period of time before the usual pre-season to prepare once everyone is healthy again and the pandemic has subsided.
A pre-pre season.
posted on 13/3/20
Bin this season off, come back when it's safe to do so and the players are physically ready to.
Play a 19 game PL season/23 game FL season. Let teams carry over half their points total from this abandoned season.
posted on 13/3/20
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Blue in the face (U22288)
posted 9 minutes ago
I think they will use the three week delay to test every player and essentially quarantine their squads before they play the final two months of the season in the summer probably behind closed doors and to empty stadiums.
Might be one of the main entertainments used to pacify a population on lockdown during peak virus period.
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It seems fairly obvious to me but I suspect the players will kick off and stop that happening.
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I don’t see how you restart in three weeks when at such a point you still have staff across the clubs, officials, press members, etc. still full of the virus, as well as players at every club developing, dealing with and recovering from symptoms.
You can’t take elite professional sportspeople out of peak training for a month or six weeks and then ask them to play professional fixtures without rebuilding fitness and conditioning first.
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You don't have anyone full of the virus three weeks from now if you quarantine them all
posted on 13/3/20
comment by Bryan ROBBson (U22311)
posted 6 minutes ago
I wouldn’t even be surprised if the league season became a summer one for a couple of years - fits in with the Qatar World Cup too. So perhaps finish this season later this year and start what would be the 20/21 season in say, March 2021 and gradually work back to a winter league
It may sound inconvenient now but if we’re facing a world where hundreds of thousands of people may die it could be a good solution for a while
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That would cost literally billions of pounds to do, Robb.
The Premier League alone is a massive, massive industry. You’re talking about wholesale impacts on:
- TV programming *worldwide* (including commissioning and production)
- Other sporting leagues and events *worldwide*
- Other cultural events
- Entire policing programmes
- Security programmes
- Publications
- Specialist travel companies worldwide
- Airlines
- Hotels and restaurants
- Thousands of sponsorship deals, active, yet to be renewed and yet to exist
- An entire food and beverage retail sub industry
That’s just off the top of my head.
posted on 13/3/20
I can see this season being declared null and void and wiped from the record books.
It will mean no trophies, and no promotion and relegation this season. Every league will start again next season the same as it started this season.
Also, there will be no European competitions next season, given that qualification is yet to be decided, and the Euros postponed until the following summer.
All prize monies shall be distributed evenly between all this season`s participants in as fair a way as possible.
Levy will be seething at all the lost revenue from having a closed stadium.
posted on 13/3/20
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Blue in the face (U22288)
posted 9 minutes ago
I think they will use the three week delay to test every player and essentially quarantine their squads before they play the final two months of the season in the summer probably behind closed doors and to empty stadiums.
Might be one of the main entertainments used to pacify a population on lockdown during peak virus period.
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It seems fairly obvious to me but I suspect the players will kick off and stop that happening.
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I don’t see how you restart in three weeks when at such a point you still have staff across the clubs, officials, press members, etc. still full of the virus, as well as players at every club developing, dealing with and recovering from symptoms.
You can’t take elite professional sportspeople out of peak training for a month or six weeks and then ask them to play professional fixtures without rebuilding fitness and conditioning first.
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You don't have anyone full of the virus three weeks from now if you quarantine them all
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Until they leave quarantine and are again surrounded by people still carrying the virus.
Unless you are talking about a Chinese-style complete lockdown strategy for the entire country for the next six-plus months.
posted on 13/3/20
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posted on 13/3/20
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 3 minutes ago
I can see this season being declared null and void and wiped from the record books.
It will mean no trophies, and no promotion and relegation this season. Every league will start again next season the same as it started this season.
Also, there will be no European competitions next season, given that qualification is yet to be decided, and the Euros postponed until the following summer.
All prize monies shall be distributed evenly between all this season`s participants in as fair a way as possible.
Levy will be seething at all the lost revenue from having a closed stadium.
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Seems like the logical way forward. But then the authorities don`t always do logical things.
posted on 13/3/20
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posted on 13/3/20
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posted on 13/3/20
comment by Blue in the face (U22288)
posted 1 minute ago
The amount of lawsuits that would happen if this season was just abandoned is too large to imagine.
This season will definitely finish, even if it takes two years.
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Sandy's previous comeback to this was "That's why clubs have insurance."
Genuinely
posted on 13/3/20
comment by Blue in the face (U22288)
posted 39 seconds ago
I see all the Spurs fans want the season cancelled. Lol. I can see why. They are crap.
But frankly it is a ludicrous argument. You cant start a new season until the previous one is completed
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Easy, not all Spurs fans are like Sandy
posted on 13/3/20
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posted on 13/3/20
comment by Blue in the face (U22288)
posted 2 minutes ago
The amount of lawsuits that would happen if this season was just abandoned is too large to imagine.
This season will definitely finish, even if it takes two years.
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You really think lawsuits will be lodged in the face of thousands of deaths, what kind of people would even consider doing that. It is what it is, an act of god and any lawsuit would be thrown out before it even started.
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