comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 42 minutes ago
omment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 56 seconds ago

Expecting Pogba to have heard of Souness is like expecting a 27 year old English lad to have heard of [*Google's obscure Bayern Munich midfielder from the side that won 3 European Cups on the bounce in the 70s*]

Let's face is, compared to some of the names he played with Souness is a complete no-namer.

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This.

Dalglish and Rush would be the names people would remember. Hansen maybe and Emlyn before hi and the idiot goalie they had.
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I’d be shocked if even a 27 year old wasn’t aware of the Bayern Captain that lifted the European Cup 3 times in the 70s.

Why create an article about it then? Dimwit.

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Why not create an article about it. The BBC has as well, the author of that wasn't worked up either.

You really are the thickest of the dips. And that takes some beating with Mamba and Inbefore about.

I’d be shocked if even a 27 year old wasn’t aware of the Bayern Captain that lifted the European Cup 3 times in the 70s.

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I very much doubt many could name him without the use of google.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
I’d be shocked if even a 27 year old wasn’t aware of the Bayern Captain that lifted the European Cup 3 times in the 70s.

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I very much doubt many could name him without the use of google.
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Then we agree to disagree.

I think it’s mad that there are football fans that would have to google Der Kaiser - Franz Franz Beckenbauer.

Casual fans perhaps - but not the average committed fan.

comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 42 minutes ago
omment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 56 seconds ago

Expecting Pogba to have heard of Souness is like expecting a 27 year old English lad to have heard of [*Google's obscure Bayern Munich midfielder from the side that won 3 European Cups on the bounce in the 70s*]

Let's face is, compared to some of the names he played with Souness is a complete no-namer.

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This.

Dalglish and Rush would be the names people would remember. Hansen maybe and Emlyn before hi and the idiot goalie they had.
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I’d be shocked if even a 27 year old wasn’t aware of the Bayern Captain that lifted the European Cup 3 times in the 70s.


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Many will have heard of him, but I suspect the overwhelming majority would have to Google it. I'd also point out that Beckenbauer is a true great and a star in that team. Aside from Gerd Muller, name one other player in that side...

I'd love to know what percentage of 70 year old's could place Zobel and Roth without Google... Won 2 on the bounce for Bayern, and I'd never heard of them until I just Googled that side.

I'd bet my mortgage that if you took a 27 year old French lad off the street and asked him to name Liverpool's CM in the 70s European Cup winning sides he wouldn't have a clue.

comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
I’d be shocked if even a 27 year old wasn’t aware of the Bayern Captain that lifted the European Cup 3 times in the 70s.

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I very much doubt many could name him without the use of google.
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Then we agree to disagree.

I think it’s mad that there are football fans that would have to google Der Kaiser - Franz Franz Beckenbauer.

Casual fans perhaps - but not the average committed fan.
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The thing is you're assuming Beckenbaur and Souness are on a par in renown, which is frankly quite ludicrous. That's like suggesting that in 30 years a kid who's heard of Ronaldo should also have heard of Michael Carrick.

comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
I’d be shocked if even a 27 year old wasn’t aware of the Bayern Captain that lifted the European Cup 3 times in the 70s.

...........................

I very much doubt many could name him without the use of google.
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Then we agree to disagree.

I think it’s mad that there are football fans that would have to google Der Kaiser - Franz Franz Beckenbauer.

Casual fans perhaps - but not the average committed fan.
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Would be difficult to forget one of the greatest players that ever played the game.

Where as Souness you'd forgive them for no knowing who he is.

I think it’s mad that there are football fans that would have to google Der Kaiser - Franz Franz Beckenbauer.

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Why is it mad? Unless you are German there would be very little reason for a 27 year old to know who he was.

comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
I’d be shocked if even a 27 year old wasn’t aware of the Bayern Captain that lifted the European Cup 3 times in the 70s.

...........................

I very much doubt many could name him without the use of google.
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Then we agree to disagree.

I think it’s mad that there are football fans that would have to google Der Kaiser - Franz Franz Beckenbauer.

Casual fans perhaps - but not the average committed fan.
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The thing is you're assuming Beckenbaur and Souness are on a par in renown, which is frankly quite ludicrous. That's like suggesting that in 30 years a kid who's heard of Ronaldo should also have heard of Michael Carrick.
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No I’m not.

I’m assuming that people remember the greats of an era - which Beckenbaur and Souness both were.

Souness wasn’t just a Sammy Lee or a David Johnson. He was a European Cup winning Captain that was dominating his own respective league.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think it’s mad that there are football fans that would have to google Der Kaiser - Franz Franz Beckenbauer.

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Why is it mad? Unless you are German there would be very little reason for a 27 year old to know who he was.
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Because he’s not just a player in a European Cup winning team. He was the captain and their leader and one of the greats of his era.

Same as Sounes.

Pogba played for Juve, but I reckon he'd struggle to name many of their 1985 EC winning team.

But 27 year old’s won’t be remembering anything, it’s decades before they were even born.

There will be plenty that don’t know Beckenbauer was the captain of the Bayern team that won three in a row. And this is a more world renowned player than Souness.

Because he’s not just a player in a European Cup winning team. He was the captain and their leader and one of the greats of his era.

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All twenty odd years before a 27 year old was born.

There will be plenty that don’t know Beckenbauer was the captain of the Bayern team that won three in a row. And this is a more world renowned player than Souness.

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You would have to be really effing thick not to understand this.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
There will be plenty that don’t know Beckenbauer was the captain of the Bayern team that won three in a row. And this is a more world renowned player than Souness.

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You would have to be really effing thick not to understand this.
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No surprise it’s Metro.

“ Beckenbaur and Souness are on a par in renown”

Only a Liverpool fan would say something so offensive.

Why is it mad? Unless you are German there would be very little reason for a 27 year old to know who he was.
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You could take an interest in educating yourself if you are interested in football. I reckon I know all the great, world renowned footballers who played before I was born.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 22 minutes ago
There will be plenty that don’t know Beckenbauer was the captain of the Bayern team that won three in a row. And this is a more world renowned player than Souness.

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You would have to be really effing thick not to understand this.
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You wouldn’t.

I’d imagine these would be casual fans.

People who love football and love the game know who he is without having to google.

comment by RB&W "PPE for NHS heroes" (U21434)
posted 3 minutes ago
Why is it mad? Unless you are German there would be very little reason for a 27 year old to know who he was.
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You could take an interest in educating yourself if you are interested in football. I reckon I know all the great, world renowned footballers who played before I was born.
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Likewise.

And it doesn’t require one to study old matches.

You hear the names all the time.

What we’ve established on this thread is that there are casual football fans and passionate ones.

We’ve also established that Kung Fu Cantona can’t formulate an opinion of his own. Cretin.

I love football, and I love the game. My football knowledge post 1980 is decent. I know who Beckenbauer is, but if you’d asked me to name who captained the Bayern Side that won 3 European Cups on the bounce I would’ve had to guess at Beckenbauer.

The majority of football fans are casual fans, at least by the definition that they wouldn’t go out of their way to extensively educate themselves on former players. They’ll know players who were a big deal in their lifetime, and will know about the greats who are talked about in every Greatest of All Time programmes/debates - Souness isn’t one of the latter. He’s a great in Liverpool. A great in English football, arguably. Internationally he’s a bit of a nobody.

He’s probably only known outside of England by Galatasaray and 60+ year old Bucharest fans.

...and Scottish fans. They might’ve heard of him too

Would Manchester United fans say that Scholes or Keane won’t be remembered by fans in 20 years ?

I find that hard to believe - unless you’re just a glance at the scores kind of fan.

comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 3 minutes ago
He’s probably only known outside of England by Galatasaray and 60+ year old Bucharest fans.
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Fooking 63 yrd old bloke who acts like a JA606 stalwart.He's involved in a feud with someone 36 yrs his junior.

Bloke needs to seriously look at himself in the mirror as he's not coming out of this with much dignity atm

comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago

Would Manchester United fans say that Scholes or Keane won’t be remembered by fans in 20 years ?

I find that hard to believe - unless you’re just a glance at the scores kind of fan.
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Would they be remembered by a foreign footballer who wasn't born when they retired?