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posted on 31/5/20

comment by Neo - What are you telling me? That I can dodge bullets? No, I’m trying to tell you that when you’re ready you won’t have to. (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
Your entire premise is strange. Your first and second paragraphs... I don't even know what to say. It's from a different era.

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It is probably best if you say nothing.

My premise is exactly what is going on.
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Why is it best of I say nothing? Because I don't agree with you? I'm only offering a different viewpoint which is as valid as yours, and trying to understand yours too.

I would have thought communities in America have the support of each other all the time, but there is a small percentage that is racist, of course

What do you mean by "Every time the black communities get support from the white american". At what times would you say black communities don't have the support of the white American?

At what times in history has the black community gained this support and then went and ruined it by protests and violence? You said it happens " every time" and I can't think of any time it's happened before.
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VC sees the world through a very privileged position.

posted on 31/5/20

Personally i have noticed through American buddies on facebook that their thoughts have gone from shock and horror at what the police did to now posting about what @ssholes the protesters are for smashing up cities.

Not sure how that is supposed to be a positive.

posted on 31/5/20

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by new cdm obsesion - julian garner (U13920)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by new cdm obsesion - julian garner (U13920)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
That what is happening now is an understandable reaction to a facked up system.

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Understandable at a push but it isn’t an excuse to go out a commit crime.

Look up and listen to some of Rev Al Sharptons views on this issue from this last few days.
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I have been trying to ignore some of your comments
but what is your reaction to the fact there are numerous videos showing that a lot of the crimes you speak of are being commited by white people that are not even part of the real protest.
Do you think black people should stop protesting because some people are taking advantage of the situation?
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Unfortunately, yes, with an election approaching and a killer disease on the loose which far more likely to spread because of the protests.
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thanks, I love your honesty if nothing else
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You may not agree with me but we are in extraordinary times. Black people are dying at a greater number with this disease. Whats more they are playing into Trumps hands which is going to cost the black community far more in the long term if he is re-elected. I shudder to think what it will cost the world. So for expediency this is the time to bite their lips. I am not black so this will sound self-righteous. But its the truth. This of course preciously why they are being provoked.
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one thing i wanted to add but didn't was that i wish more people wer as honesty as you. I resisted adding that because so may construe it negatively. But reading your reply i can tell that you are far too intelligent for that. Thanks

like you pointed out i do not agree with you. Everything you have pointed out is in fact and an exellent logical arguement so i respect it.

In my post i make reference to something snaps watching that video.That is logic. In reality being logical will always be trumped by emotions. Pandemic or not people are risking their lives to go chill in the park. Trump has never relied on black folks and his action show it. If you cannot stand up for what you believe in face of adversity, why will anyone take you seriously when it is easier

posted on 31/5/20

comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
The protests initially erupted due to what was seen as injustice at the policemen involved not being arrested. But then they were arrested and charged pretty rapidly as they were always going to be. So now what are the protests about? So now all that is going to happen is to distract from the real issues they face.
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This comment just illustrates how little you understand about oppression. The riots aren’t about a single murder, the murder we witnessed was the straw that broke the camels back. This oppression extends for hundreds of years and black people in America are still being treated as subhuman. Rioting and violence are actions of desperation, nobody is saying it’s right but the down trodden in any community will act the same way if they are oppressed. White people were literally confronting police with guns and breaking into government buildings, last week because they felt their freedom was being taken away. Now imagine you’ve actually been treated that way for generations because of the colour of your skin and not just because its for a global pandemic.

The current rioting has extended beyond African Americans and now white people have joined in. All that feel aggrieved are now taking to the streets. This is human nature, you’ed do well not to paint everything in black and white.

posted on 31/5/20

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
If you can bear with me I am not trying to be a pain but if you do not think they should stop protesting knowing that some people will take advantage of the situation. What do you think they should do?M

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Protest peacefully, which most of the protestors are. But some are not and wrongly the peaceful ones get tarnished with the same brush. Sadly that is the way of the world.
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I'm sorry but at what point do you say fack these peaceful protests.

george floyd
sandra bland
sean reed
tamir rice
oscar grant
michael brown
stephon clark
dante parker
walter scott
anthony baez
ahmaud arbery
breonna taylor
philando castile
samuel dubose
eric garner

Peaceful protest after peaceful protest. When is enough, enough?

posted on 31/5/20

comment by Neo - What are you telling me? That I can dodge bullets? No, I’m trying to tell you that when you’re ready you won’t have to. (U1282)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
If you can bear with me I am not trying to be a pain but if you do not think they should stop protesting knowing that some people will take advantage of the situation. What do you think they should do?M

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Protest peacefully, which most of the protestors are. But some are not and wrongly the peaceful ones get tarnished with the same brush. Sadly that is the way of the world.
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I'm sorry but at what point do you say fack these peaceful protests.

george floyd
sandra bland
sean reed
tamir rice
oscar grant
michael brown
stephon clark
dante parker
walter scott
anthony baez
ahmaud arbery
breonna taylor
philando castile
samuel dubose
eric garner

Peaceful protest after peaceful protest. When is enough, enough?
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Those are the ones we know about, imagine what they do to people when there isn't a camera about.

posted on 31/5/20

comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
The protests initially erupted due to what was seen as injustice at the policemen involved not being arrested. But then they were arrested and charged pretty rapidly as they were always going to be. So now what are the protests about? So now all that is going to happen is to distract from the real issues they face.
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This comment just illustrates how little you understand about oppression. The riots aren’t about a single murder, the murder we witnessed was the straw that broke the camels back. This oppression extends for hundreds of years and black people in America are still being treated as subhuman. Rioting and violence are actions of desperation, nobody is saying it’s right but the down trodden in any community will act the same way if they are oppressed. White people were literally confronting police with guns and breaking into government buildings, last week because they felt their freedom was being taken away. Now imagine you’ve actually been treated that way for generations because of the colour of your skin and not just because its for a global pandemic.

The current rioting has extended beyond African Americans and now white people have joined in. All that feel aggrieved are now taking to the streets. This is human nature, you’ed do well not to paint everything in black and white.
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The fat Orange buffoon should have a lot to answer for. His comments and statements have only served to make things worse and make people angry.

posted on 31/5/20

comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Neo - What are you telling me? That I can dodge bullets? No, I’m trying to tell you that when you’re ready you won’t have to. (U1282)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
If you can bear with me I am not trying to be a pain but if you do not think they should stop protesting knowing that some people will take advantage of the situation. What do you think they should do?M

....

Protest peacefully, which most of the protestors are. But some are not and wrongly the peaceful ones get tarnished with the same brush. Sadly that is the way of the world.
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I'm sorry but at what point do you say fack these peaceful protests.

george floyd
sandra bland
sean reed
tamir rice
oscar grant
michael brown
stephon clark
dante parker
walter scott
anthony baez
ahmaud arbery
breonna taylor
philando castile
samuel dubose
eric garner

Peaceful protest after peaceful protest. When is enough, enough?
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Those are the ones we know about, imagine what they do to people when there isn't a camera about.
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Yeah. Have you watched the Innocence Files? It's not just murder but systemically putting black people in jail and deathrow.

They have resisted reforms that would curb racism by law enforcement for over 30 years now.

posted on 31/5/20

Why is it best of I say nothing? Because I don't agree with you?

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No. I don’t care if you disagree with me. It is your ignorance that suggests you should say nothing.

posted on 31/5/20

VC sees the world through a very privileged position.

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Nothing privileged about my position. I just happen to have a better grasp of how life works than you do.

You think wrestling is real for gods sake. You think Friends is funny.

posted on 31/5/20

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 14 minutes ago
If you can bear with me I am not trying to be a pain but if you do not think they should stop protesting knowing that some people will take advantage of the situation. What do you think they should do?M

....

Protest peacefully, which most of the protestors are. But some are not and wrongly the peaceful ones get tarnished with the same brush. Sadly that is the way of the world.
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so black people can only protest iff they keep it peaceful regardless of who starts the violence... I guess this is why we see numerous videos of instigators (mostly unrelated to the protest) being stopped from carrying out violence by the actual protesters (admittedly not very successful)

But i guess this isn't good enough. Let's ignore the why this happening and focus on the actions of a few (mostly outsiders) to tarnish a cause.

We all know that playbook

posted on 31/5/20

comment by Neo - What are you telling me? That I can dodg... (U1282)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
If you can bear with me I am not trying to be a pain but if you do not think they should stop protesting knowing that some people will take advantage of the situation. What do you think they should do?M

....

Protest peacefully, which most of the protestors are. But some are not and wrongly the peaceful ones get tarnished with the same brush. Sadly that is the way of the world.
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I'm sorry but at what point do you say fack these peaceful protests.

george floyd
sandra bland
sean reed
tamir rice
oscar grant
michael brown
stephon clark
dante parker
walter scott
anthony baez
ahmaud arbery
breonna taylor
philando castile
samuel dubose
eric garner

Peaceful protest after peaceful protest. When is enough, enough?
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Why aren’t people replying to this?

posted on 31/5/20

Peaceful protest after peaceful protest. When is enough, enough?

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And where has the violent protests, the looting and the arson got? Nowhere. It is cycle.

If you can’t see that then I can’t help you.

posted on 31/5/20

so black people can only protest iff they keep it peaceful

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Same goes for white people.

posted on 31/5/20

comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 30 minutes ago
Personally i have noticed through American buddies on facebook that their thoughts have gone from shock and horror at what the police did to now posting about what @ssholes the protesters are for smashing up cities.

Not sure how that is supposed to be a positive.
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the same "american buddies" who like you didn't see racism in the first place?
I can tell you no one wants their supprt and if you can please let them know
#ficklesupporters #enemiesindiguise

posted on 31/5/20

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
so black people can only protest iff they keep it peaceful

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Same goes for white people.
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I love how you have taken sentences that fit your narrative out of context.

choose to ignore the context that a lot of the people starting the violence are white outsiders. A privilege only white people have. Imagine a black person going to instigate violence in a protest about some thing white americans care about, like guns for instance

posted on 31/5/20

I love how you have taken sentences that fit your narrative out of context.

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Which was exactly what you just did to me. That is twice now where I have highlighted you doing it.

If you want to be a with me I will treat you the same.

How you should have answered my reply to you was

‘Yes the same goes for white people. Protests should abide by the law and be peaceful’.

posted on 31/5/20

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 32 minutes ago
VC sees the world through a very privileged position.

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Nothing privileged about my position. I just happen to have a better grasp of how life works than you do.

You think wrestling is real for gods sake. You think Friends is funny.
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Do I think wrestling is real? What an odd thing to say. Just go back to your fantasy world where black people should just peacefully protest when another cop kills another black person.

posted on 31/5/20

comment by new cdm obsesion - julian garner (U13920)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 14 minutes ago
If you can bear with me I am not trying to be a pain but if you do not think they should stop protesting knowing that some people will take advantage of the situation. What do you think they should do?M

....

Protest peacefully, which most of the protestors are. But some are not and wrongly the peaceful ones get tarnished with the same brush. Sadly that is the way of the world.
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so black people can only protest iff they keep it peaceful regardless of who starts the violence... I guess this is why we see numerous videos of instigators (mostly unrelated to the protest) being stopped from carrying out violence by the actual protesters (admittedly not very successful)

But i guess this isn't good enough. Let's ignore the why this happening and focus on the actions of a few (mostly outsiders) to tarnish a cause.

We all know that playbook

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And what do you see any violent protests resulting in exactly?

As far as focusing on the looting, it's what the media will do, which will set the tone of things to come.

posted on 31/5/20

VC, you just don’t seem to understand why the protests are turning violent. Try and think why people are furious. Why peaceful protests are very very unlikely after another execution by a white cop on a black person.

Once you try and see the world from the eyes from someone who isn’t treated the same as you or I, only then will you understand why people are kicking off.

posted on 31/5/20

If anyone wants to see how to stop riots and violence watch the video below
https://twitter.com/JmeBBK/status/1267050315494428672?s=09

I can break down what has happened here as opposed to the other demonstration but that will be patronising you.

posted on 31/5/20

comment by Robb Cummings (U22311)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 32 minutes ago
VC sees the world through a very privileged position.

.......

Nothing privileged about my position. I just happen to have a better grasp of how life works than you do.

You think wrestling is real for gods sake. You think Friends is funny.
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Do I think wrestling is real? What an odd thing to say. Just go back to your fantasy world where black people should just peacefully protest when another cop kills another black person.
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Channeling your inner Malcolm X. You should change your name to Robb X.

posted on 31/5/20

And what do you see any violent protests resulting in exactly?

As far as focusing on the looting, it's what the media will do, which will set the tone of things to come.

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Which is exactly the point I have been making. The media have now moved away from George Floyd and are focusing on the bad part of the protests.

Which is exactly what happened in Baltimore a few years back.

posted on 31/5/20

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Cummings (U22311)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 32 minutes ago
VC sees the world through a very privileged position.

.......

Nothing privileged about my position. I just happen to have a better grasp of how life works than you do.

You think wrestling is real for gods sake. You think Friends is funny.
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Do I think wrestling is real? What an odd thing to say. Just go back to your fantasy world where black people should just peacefully protest when another cop kills another black person.
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Channeling your inner Malcolm X. You should change your name to Robb X.
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on the contrary, Robb has been consitently advocating for peace. Although he has shown an empathy that is needed to facilitate that peace

posted on 31/5/20

Do I think wrestling is real?

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Knowing you, yes.

What an odd thing to say. Just go back to your fantasy world where black people should just peacefully protest when another cop kills another black person.

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It isn’t a fantasy world. It is the law. Looting and stealing and arson isn’t going to help anyone. Especially the local community.

And considering the cop responsible is being charged with Murder what do you think this is now going to achieve?

I will spell it out for you as you still don’t understand Trump.

Him and his fellow racists that are in the US Govt and seats of power throughout the land do not care if protestors decimate communities through violent protests. It is what they want.

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