Learn to form your own opinions.

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They were my opinions. I have them yesterday you clown. The news was today.

Calling me ignorant and then learning that one of the major black activists in the USA has come out and said the same thing must really hurt you.

You are going off in full blow utter prat mode now.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 42 seconds ago
Learn to form your own opinions.

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They were my opinions. I have them yesterday you clown. The news was today.

Calling me ignorant and then learning that one of the major black activists in the USA has come out and said the same thing must really hurt you.

You are going off in full blow utter prat mode now.
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If you're talking about Candace Owens, that says it all. I believe most black people consider her a "c00n" or whatever the female version of an Uncle Tom is... she has no standing in the black community from what I've seen and read.

If not, who are you talking about?

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Learn to form your own opinions.

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They were my opinions. I have them yesterday you clown. The news was today.

Calling me ignorant and then learning that one of the major black activists in the USA has come out and said the same thing must really hurt you.

You are going off in full blow utter prat mode now.
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Rev said it was reckless to do what is being done but no one here is saying it isn’t reckless. What people are saying is

1) The black people doing it are doing it out of emotion and you can’t blame them after so many injustices against them for centuries
2) Infiltrators from outside who are there to cause trouble for independent reasons.

It’s horrific but you seem the speak on behalf of a bunch of people you can’t possibly speak on behalf of when you say ‘ they then go and ruin it by violent protests and looting’.

They havent ruined anything. Just because your trusty news channel may not have mentioned Mr Floyd recently doesn’t mean he is already forgotten.

If not, who are you talking about?

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From this mornings news the Rev Al Sharpton, some activist rapper called Killer Mike and even Fox News had a clip where all were condemning the rioting, arson and looting.

I generally don’t pay much attention to rappers but this one was saying pretty much what I said on here yesterday.

You might be able to find it on YouTube under MSNBC News. The Fox clip was on MSNBC as well.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 30 seconds ago
If not, who are you talking about?

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From this mornings news the Rev Al Sharpton, some activist rapper called Killer Mike and even Fox News had a clip where all were condemning the rioting, arson and looting.

I generally don’t pay much attention to rappers but this one was saying pretty much what I said on here yesterday.

You might be able to find it on YouTube under MSNBC News. The Fox clip was on MSNBC as well.
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You're paying attention to him because he's saying what you want to hear. It doesn't make him right... especially as he's attributing the riots solely to black people where they aren't the ones responsible for it!

I refer you to Rob's post above.

even Fox News had a clip where all were condemning the rioting, arson and looting.
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Imagine that? Fox News condemning a bunch of black people rioting. Wonders will never cease 🙄

comment by Robb Cummings (U22311)
posted 16 seconds ago
even Fox News had a clip where all were condemning the rioting, arson and looting.
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Imagine that? Fox News condemning a bunch of black people rioting. Wonders will never cease 🙄
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Lol! I decided to leave that one... too obvious!!

You're paying attention to him because he's saying what you want to hear

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Really. You need to come up with something less lame than that.

comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 1 minute ago
I think i shall head out for the day and see if i can figure out how it is ignorant to point out that rioting will achieve nothing. I mean, i only have decades of evidence on my side but apparently i am misreading the situation.

Have 100% support, go smash up a city, lose 50% of that support. It really is a genius tactic.
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You still don't understand the part that infiltration has to play in the escalation of protests to riots, do you? It was done SPECIFICALLY to turn people against these protests. You've been fooled by it and, despite it being mentioned several times on this post, refuse to see it...

You can't make this up!
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Eh, I am the one who mentioned the infiltration when some talked like it was a new thing

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 23 seconds ago
You're paying attention to him because he's saying what you want to hear

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Really. You need to come up with something less lame than that.

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I spelled out what you can do to expand your knowledge already. I gave examples of recent cases you can look at. Why should I repeat myself? You have one perspective. Learn about the other instead of being blinkered. You might learn something.

1) The black people doing it are doing it out of emotion and you can’t blame them after so many injustices against them for centuries
2) Infiltrators from outside who are there to cause trouble for independent reasons.

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I have not argued against either of these points.

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It’s horrific but you seem the speak on behalf of a bunch of people you can’t possibly speak on behalf of when you say ‘ they then go and ruin it by violent protests and looting’.

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You frequently speak on behalf of people you know nothing of. You are an Australian living in the U.K.
presuming you know all about the goings on in America.

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They havent ruined anything. Just because your trusty news channel may not have mentioned Mr Floyd recently doesn’t mean he is already forgotten.

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The riots and the looting has taken the focus off of George Floyd. That was what I was trying to get at.

It took and hour and a half ish on the news this morning for them to refer to the George Floyd case itself.

spelled out what you can do to expand your knowledge already. I gave examples of recent cases you can look at. Why should I repeat myself? You have one perspective. Learn about the other instead of being blinkered. You might learn something.M

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What is it you think I need to learn something about? You are all over the place.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 53 seconds ago
spelled out what you can do to expand your knowledge already. I gave examples of recent cases you can look at. Why should I repeat myself? You have one perspective. Learn about the other instead of being blinkered. You might learn something.M

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What is it you think I need to learn something about? You are all over the place.
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Ah. The deflection approach. Shame you're not very good at it...

You frequently speak on behalf of people you know nothing of. You are an Australian living in the U.K.
presuming you know all about the goings on in America.

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Stay classy VC, using someone’s nationality to minimise their input to a debate about someone who was killed for their own differences. Wow.




It took and hour and a half ish on the news this morning for them to refer to the George Floyd case itself.
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Like I said before, you’re so transfixed by the news you watch that you allow your opinions to be formed by it. Do you need them to say the name George Floyd every 20 seconds to be reminded why these riots are happening? Just because you think the focus is off George doesn’t mean it is.

Ah. The deflection approach. Shame you're not very good at it..

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So you can’t tell me what I need to learn about. I would call that a deflection approach.

Robb

I can always tell when you have lost the argument because you end up saying stay classy.

comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 1 minute ago
I think i shall head out for the day and see if i can figure out how it is ignorant to point out that rioting will achieve nothing. I mean, i only have decades of evidence on my side but apparently i am misreading the situation.

Have 100% support, go smash up a city, lose 50% of that support. It really is a genius tactic.
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You still don't understand the part that infiltration has to play in the escalation of protests to riots, do you? It was done SPECIFICALLY to turn people against these protests. You've been fooled by it and, despite it being mentioned several times on this post, refuse to see it...

You can't make this up!
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Eh, I am the one who mentioned the infiltration when some talked like it was a new thing
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So you have no excuse then... 🤦‍♂️

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
Robb

I can always tell when you have lost the argument because you end up saying stay classy.
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Imagination is a wonderful thing here. You’ve already admitted to using Fox News as a news source so I’d probably admit defeat.

Like I said before, you’re so transfixed by the news you watch that you allow your opinions to be formed by it. Do you need them to say the name George Floyd every 20 seconds to be reminded why these riots are happening?

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Again. I formed my opinion before the news not after it.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
Like I said before, you’re so transfixed by the news you watch that you allow your opinions to be formed by it. Do you need them to say the name George Floyd every 20 seconds to be reminded why these riots are happening?

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Again. I formed my opinion before the news not after it.
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And yet you keep referring to the news as evidence that backs up your thought process. Funny that

Imagination is a wonderful thing here. You’ve already admitted to using Fox News as a news source so I’d probably admit defeat.

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I used it as a news source among many other new sources. I find it best to not just use one news channels view.

I know a certain Australian poster that said exactly that the other day.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Imagination is a wonderful thing here. You’ve already admitted to using Fox News as a news source so I’d probably admit defeat.

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I used it as a news source among many other new sources. I find it best to not just use one news channels view.

I know a certain Australian poster that said exactly that the other day.
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It’s weird you keep using my nationality here. Is there a purpose for it? Does it make my opinion any less worthwhile?

As for your comment about the news, here is what it said...

“even Fox News had a clip where all were condemning the rioting, arson and looting”

That comment itself was laden with ignorance - tells us all what we need to know about how you interpret the news you watch

comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 39 minutes ago
I think i shall head out for the day and see if i can figure out how it is ignorant to point out that rioting will achieve nothing. I mean, i only have decades of evidence on my side but apparently i am misreading the situation.

Have 100% support, go smash up a city, lose 50% of that support. It really is a genius tactic.
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Rioting played a pivotal role in the civil rights movement, with the Birmingham Riot in 1963 arguably being the main cause for the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Even currently you can argue that rioting has made a difference - Chauvin wasn't arrested until 29th May, after the protests had turned less peaceful. Maybe he would have been arrested anyway but the rioting didn't stop that happening either.

The popular support thing is pretty irrelevant too. Martin Luther King was frequently polled as one of, if not the, least popular men in America whilst he was still alive. What do you think would have occurred if rioting hadn't started recently? Is 100% nation wide support gonna convince Trump to deal with systemic racism in America?

Pointless conversation. These guys are so woke they need ketamin to sleep.

And yet you keep referring to the news as evidence that backs up your thought process. Funny that

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I am not sure why you have an issue with that but each to their own.